Smash Bros. Melee EVO Tournament Broke Viewer Records

And then Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 broke that record, and then Super Street Fighter IV Arcade broke that.

A little off topic, but Melee NEEDS to be be downloadable on the Virtual Console. It just has to.

Maybe Smash Bros Wii U could make a special appearance next year.

@Aviator As I recall, AE got 125K at most.

It was actually 139k last I heard. Impressive either way for a decade old game.

@Okkoto1
Yes. I don't know the exact numbers, but I do know that UMvC's Final's were the only thing that surpassed the Melee viewcount.

Doesn't surprise me.

@ThomasBW84 That's okay, just make sure it never happens again! _jokes

Anyone catch Niconico viewer count? I remember when we only had 30k on Twitch, they had 105k over at Niconico.

Quite well indeed for a game over a decade old. I watched. Still a blast to view.

All Evo Youtube videos say "video is not available" for me. What's going on?

One of the best times yesterday watching the Smash Bros tournament on line. Better than a football match if you'd ask me.

Anyhow, thank you very, very much Nintendo for allowing a gem like Melee to be playable at EVO! I hope the series and tournament gets bigger with the years to come.

Hopefully this will show Nintendo that Smash can be both fun for casuals and competitive players at the same time. There is no need to specifically cater to casuals and intentionally make the game unappealing to competitive players by making the game slow and removing gameplay depth.

I had more fun with Melee then I ever did with Brawl just because the game was faster and fast paced, I never even knew about the combos or special tactics until long after I stopped playing it.

Also, from past posts in other related topics, there seems to be an alarming amount of people who seem to have no idea how copyright, video game streams or videos (like youtube) work, or in fact how it is currently done.

Practically NOBODY gets legal permission from a company (legal being paperwork that states the company is giving permission of use with or without stating the terms of use) when streaming or making videos of games. For most companies who allow it, giving legal permission to everyone single person who requested the right to use their copyright that they are okay with using it would be a huge waste of resources. And no, what is verbally said or not said is meaningless when it comes to copyright. If you have no legal documentation stating the copyright owner has given you permission of use, you are infringing on copyright. All our Nintendo avatars? That's blatant copyright infringement. Capcom games are the star of EVO and most of the popular fighting game tournaments, and Capcom allows the tournaments to happen, and yet, to this day, I do not believe Capcom has EVER given legal permission for any fighting game tournament they were not personally involved in or ran themselves the legal rights to stream the game, EVEN IN TOURNAMENTS THEY SPONSOR OR ADVERTISE IN OR SEND CAPCOM REPRESENTATIVES TO. Why? Because by doing so, they can choose to shut down the event at any time and be clean of of responsibility of anything they might disagree with. In addition, by allowing the tournament to happen, it's free advertising.

The only game tournaments that get actual legal permission from the copyright owners are the biggest ones like MLG and GOMTV, commonly for games like Starcraft 2, LoL, etc. Typically, use of copyright for most forms of media would involve paying the copyright owner, however, as these tournaments are a main form of advertising for these companies, copyright owners like Blizzard instead request how they want things done if permission is given, as the tournament cannot legally exist without their permission ion the 1st place, and as tournaments like MLG are large enough and making enough of an income, they would prefer it to be legal. I believe Riot personally oversees most official LoL tournaments as they need people there to manage an unlocked versions of the games.

Personally, I have 2 theories for why Nintendo would try to shut down Melee at EVO when every other company sees the FGC as free advertising and people supporting their game. One would be Nintendo's legal team (or Nintendo) just working on their agenda to "control their copyright" as they have been in the last few months". The other is Nintendo or Sakurai's agenda to have Smash not portrayed as a serious fighting and instead a casual party game.

Nintendo either needs to update the browser to support Flash, or Twitch needs to move over to HTML5, because I wanted to watch this live on my Wii U browser, on my TV, but couldn't =/

@yuwarite

With the tournament almost being shut down, that comically is also about copyright, as having their browser support flash legally would require paying Adobe for the rights to use it. It is the main reason iPhones/Touches have not supported Flash from the beginning. Twitch does not support HTML5 though, so it would have to be flash. Sadly, watching videos on my TV is the most use I get out of my Wii U now a days. I would love for there to be games for it.

Well, apparently Twitch are moving from flash to HLS streaming, but there is no ETA:

"Jason M: Twitch Staff Jun 04, 2013 09:54AM PDT
We are in the process of moving to HLS to remove the dependency on Flash."

Seeing the players cheering "One more year" was a really cool moment. This was great for the Smash Community, for EVO, and for fans in general. Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 and Super Street Fighter IV ended up gaining more views in the end, but it's still a triumph for Melee nonetheless.

I enjoyed watching all the great talent this year. Hopefully Nintendo will allow Melee to be included next year, and maybe the new game by then~

remember if nintendo had their way this would have been shut down entirely. with their backward policies, you wonder if they even deserve the feedback...

and the stream was fantastic. big ups to all the great melee players.

@ljinkakidd sucks. I remember some white dude broke into my car and stole my radio. Oh wait was it necessary to say he was white? Not really. That was really stupid and if ignorant of me.

So, why does Nintendo not want Smash to be competitive again? Even though Melee is a big hit with fans and I doubt casuals would care?

@ljinkakidd I hear ya. Just looked bad. Mentioning the race makes it look like more than what it was.