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Yoshi

Imagamerboi wrote:

Wait Phillips is not bankrupt!?!?

After this, they might be.

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LzWinky

Imagamerboi wrote:

Wait Phillips is not bankrupt!?!?

Actually they license patents to other companies

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SCRAPPER392

I'm not really sure. One of the patents says the pointer device has a camera, and the other patent is saying that multiple devices are interacting with/for the user. Some of it seems similar, but I'm pretty sure it's not as well thought out as what Nintendo has done.

The only thing they may have done, is recognize that the Wii remote or GamePad can potentially interact with other devices(QoL), but it's not using a camera to do that. The other one looks like it might be talking about interaction between the Wii remote and GamePad, but separate structures in the patent have been combined into other ones. They say the audio device, display, and controller are separate, but the GamePad is all of those things in one. The Wii remote would be the other structure, but also includes things not present in the patent.

I'd say Nintendo will probably have to pay Philips, but not that much. Also, Philips makes the discs for Wii U, so it doesn't make sense why they would ask for a ban, unless they agreed to a deal prior, or decided to get whatever money from Nintendo, while still pursuing a lawsuit. Anything Philips would gain would only be part of what Nintendo has done after the release of Wii U(guess), which would explain why they filed the patent in 2011; not during 7th gen(Wii).

Summary: Some things are similar, but executed differently, and the patents aren't specific enough. Philips supplies discs for Wii U.

Edited on by SCRAPPER392

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Kyloctopus

I don't know how people think Phillips is irrelevant, and Bankrupt, they're still quite a name, and still make commercials. Heck, you probably have a Phillips product in your home without even knowing it.

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SkywardLink98

Hy8ogen wrote:

dumedum wrote:

unrandomsam wrote:

At least Philips actually do make stuff.

Well. The screwdriver I guess.

OMG I laughed so hard! Now I have to sue you.

Sorry, I patented the term "OMG" so unless you don't sue dumedum I will sue you for everything you own.

My SD Card with the game on it is just as physical as your cartridge with the game on it.
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cookiex

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Quote it and I'll sue you.

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unrandomsam

ogo79 wrote:

these guys are still around?
i heard they went into the potato peeler business,
much success!

Gone back to basics.

Lightbulbs and Medical.

Spun off FXP.

What I am interested in is what they want. (Any settlement is going to make no real difference to the bottom line they are not in any of the same markets they must have some reason).

The stuff like TV's is just the name licensed to whoever.

Edited on by unrandomsam

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LzWinky

cookiex wrote:

I claim patent on this post.

Quote it and I'll sue you.

Denied!

Also, Philips isn't bankrupt either. They still make electronics

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unrandomsam

SCAR392 wrote:

I'm not really sure. One of the patents says the pointer device has a camera, and the other patent is saying that multiple devices are interacting with/for the user. Some of it seems similar, but I'm pretty sure it's not as well thought out as what Nintendo has done.

The only thing they may have done, is recognize that the Wii remote or GamePad can potentially interact with other devices(QoL), but it's not using a camera to do that. The other one looks like it might be talking about interaction between the Wii remote and GamePad, but separate structures in the patent have been combined into other ones. They say the audio device, display, and controller are separate, but the GamePad is all of those things in one. The Wii remote would be the other structure, but also includes things not present in the patent.

I'd say Nintendo will probably have to pay Philips, but not that much. Also, Philips makes the discs for Wii U, so it doesn't make sense why they would ask for a ban, unless they agreed to a deal prior, or decided to get whatever money from Nintendo, while still pursuing a lawsuit. Anything Philips would gain would only be part of what Nintendo has done after the release of Wii U(guess), which would explain why they filed the patent in 2011; not during 7th gen(Wii).

Summary: Some things are similar, but executed differently, and the patents aren't specific enough. Philips supplies discs for Wii U.

Its Panasonic who makes the disks afaik.

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SCRAPPER392

@unrandomsam
Good call. Those 2 companies always confuse the hell out of me, with the letter P as the first letter.

Still, I think Philips will get money, but I they're insane if they think they can get a ban on Wii U.

Edited on by SCRAPPER392

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kyuubikid213

CommentsOnWiiUDaily wrote:

A friend on a forum made the following observation:

According to "Count II - Infringement of U.S. Patent No. 8,537,231"
"....37. United States Letters Patent No. 8,537,231 (“the ’231 patent”) issued on September 17, 2013
to Gerhardus Engbertus Mekenkamp and Tim Dekker. A copy of the ’231
patent, entitled “User Interface System Based on Pointing Device” is
attached hereto as Exhibit B."

September 17, 2013? But--

Philips claims that Nintendo was made aware of these patents in 2011

And the Wii U was released on American shores in 2012, wasn't it? I have
to congratulate you, Philips. You surely aren't the first company to
patent troll Nintendo, but you certainly have been the most obvious liar
out of the bunch.

Philips is just trying to make a quick buck. Spread this news everywhere.

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unrandomsam

SCAR392 wrote:

@unrandomsam
Good call. Those 2 companies always confuse the hell out of me, with the letter P as the first letter.

Still, I think Philips will get money, but I they're insane if they think they can get a ban on Wii U.

Unless they are planning on releasing a CDi 2 then any ban is no use to them anyway.

Maybe they want to rerelease the CDi Zelda's to run on standard Blu-Ray players.

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Freedom of the press is for those who happen to own one.

LzWinky

kyuubikid213 wrote:

CommentsOnWiiUDaily wrote:

A friend on a forum made the following observation:

According to "Count II - Infringement of U.S. Patent No. 8,537,231"
"....37. United States Letters Patent No. 8,537,231 (“the ’231 patent”) issued on September 17, 2013
to Gerhardus Engbertus Mekenkamp and Tim Dekker. A copy of the ’231
patent, entitled “User Interface System Based on Pointing Device” is
attached hereto as Exhibit B."

September 17, 2013? But--

Philips claims that Nintendo was made aware of these patents in 2011

And the Wii U was released on American shores in 2012, wasn't it? I have
to congratulate you, Philips. You surely aren't the first company to
patent troll Nintendo, but you certainly have been the most obvious liar
out of the bunch.

Philips is just trying to make a quick buck. Spread this news everywhere.

Found this.

Actually 231 was filed in 2009 and issued in 2011. Still came after the Wii though, so there's still no case

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SammytheSaiyan

Imagamerboi wrote:

Wait Phillips is not bankrupt!?!?

He's probably on the verge of bankruptcy and decided to find a half-baked reason to sue Nintendo in order to save himself.

Recently I've been playing Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz HD, Link's Awakening, and Luigi's Mansion 3. Also replaying Rayman Legends and trying to get better at Smash Ultimate

SammytheSaiyan

It's like people are literally going out of their way to make Nintendo look bad nowadays. What is with people's grudges against Nintendo all of the sudden! They helped shape the gaming industry into what it is today for crying out loud! It's like people think it's cool to hate on Nintendo now...

This is not a reason to sue Nintendo. This guy is one of the many butthurt people on Earth that find it fun to diss Nintendo in various absurd ways.

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SCRAPPER392

unrandomsam wrote:

SCAR392 wrote:

@unrandomsam
Good call. Those 2 companies always confuse the hell out of me, with the letter P as the first letter.

Still, I think Philips will get money, but I they're insane if they think they can get a ban on Wii U.

Unless they are planning on releasing a CDi 2 then any ban is no use to them anyway.

Maybe they want to rerelease the CDi Zelda's to run on standard Blu-Ray players.

I was thinking the same thing. They don't have as much power if they didn't or don't have any sort of plan to create a product that represents what's on the patent. At the very worst, Nintendo would have to pay up for licensing, but a ban is basically impossible by common sense standards.

EDIT: For what it's worth, I wouldn't award Philips anything. The Wii remote isn't a camera, but I can basically guarantee the Wii remote/GamePad setup, and other possible devices being interactive is what pushed them to file a lawsuit.

Edited on by SCRAPPER392

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cookiex

Unca_Lz wrote:

cookiex wrote:

I claim patent on this post.

Quote it and I'll sue you.

Denied!

You have just made yourself a powerful enemy.

My lawyers will be on yo' behind with a cease-and-desist in no time. Don't say I didn't warn you.

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JoeyTS

brewsky wrote:

Imagamerboi wrote:

Wait Phillips is not bankrupt!?!?

After this, they might be.

Well then I can't wait for Nintendo to win

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JoeyTS

It's pretty interesting that Phillips is sueing them about this now instead of like 8 years ago.

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