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Topic: When locking posts go to far.

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patbacknitro

Here's something I have been rather confused about and I need others opinions on this topic. From my understanding, the forums on this site are for us fans to have discussions on a wide variety of topics on all things Nintendo or otherwise. It's understandable that some topics shouldn't be allowed on this site for various reasons, however, it's quite a shame to see some conversations be based around a general forum.

To give an example, just today I tried posting a forum about the recent lore drop of Callie and Marie separating from each other, possibly due to the final Splatfest results. In which the post I made focused on this topic from the game Splatoon 2. However, my post was locked as I was told to take my conversation to a forum, just about Splatoon 2 with no actual topic of discussion besides just a general one about the game itself.

I can understand not wanting to spam forums on just 1 topic in general, but having 1 forum on the game as its entirety, and 1 forum talking about a specific new event, discovery, or something that should be discussed as its own separate thing, should be allowed to be posted. Anyone can make a post just for Mario Kart 8, but why can't there be another forum about a competition being hosted? Why can't we have a forum based on asking everyone's opinions on a certain character, or heck, why can't we have a forum on anything even talking about that game at all, without our forums being locked up when the only thing we are trying to do is start a specific conversation on our own forums about 1 general topic.

The benefit of this is the fact that we can start our own conversation about just 1 specific topic, without being flooded by 100 other people talking about other topics, and we may never even get a conversation started about the topic we wanted to talk about. I don't get why posts get locked for reasons such as that, especially when it's just narrowing down a specific choice of conversation, rather than being an exact copy of a previous forum. I see it as if someone else has a forum almost identical to yours, then it's ok to lock it as they can then go to the first posters forums and talk theirs with no trouble. But to lock a forum due to even mentioning a game from a previous forum is just rediculous.

So how do you guys feel about this topic?

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Our rules are currently in transition right now. We used to hammer down on repetitive threads, but ultimately the directors decided to be more lax on these specific threads.

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patbacknitro

@TheLZdragon Ok that makes more sense. I wasn't trying to be rude about it or anything, I just didn't have a good understanding on what counted as a repetitive thread and what didn't. I just wanted to see if I was missing something or if there was already a post very similar to mine. So sorry about making it a bigger ordeal than it should have been, but hopefully the rules get sorted out in the near future.

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I don't get the rules around here either, and I'm a mod. lol

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@Joeynator3000 Really? I figured by now the rules of this site would have been fleshed out. It's been here for years. Out of curiosity who decides the rules and regulations here?

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Octane

If it was me, I would've closed the thread. I can easily come up with another dozen or so interesting topics on Splatoon 2. In my opinion they can all go in the main thread. These one-issue threads get burried pretty fast anyway.

Anyway, I thought there was a contact form for contacting the mods if you have any questions regarding locked threads...

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patbacknitro

@Octane Another thing that's not very clear is how to contact an admin beyond just trying to get their attention. But besides that, there should be a clear line between what can be posted on a topic and what not. Having 1 post about a game as a general discussion shouldn't make it to where someone can't post a topic about a specific part of said game that has no discussion as of yet. True it may get buried pretty fast, but at least it can have some form of discussion on said topic, rather than fighting over a flood of people all trying to talk on the same forum.

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gcunit

@patbacknitro Specific threads about specific topics are fine in theory. But there is a tendency for the specificity to be lost and discussion becomes general, and then we have duplication, which we don't want.

Plus, when there's a hot topic, such as when Switch was revealed, or BotW released, every Joe and their dog feels the urge to start a new thread with their own take on the topic so that their genius thought gets the attention they think it warrants, and things get real messy real quick.

So we need to maintain some discipline in starting new threads. There can't be black and white rules on it, and maybe we'll be over zealous on occasion, but if peeps hang around here a while they get a better feel for how things work. Nearly every new user gets threads locked in their first few weeks, I know I did.

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patbacknitro

@gcunit Thats kind of the thing, and forgive me if I didn't make this clear enough. Haveing 1 thread for a general discussion over 1 game is fine, but that should not forbid anyone from posting about 1 topic from the game that they wish to talk about, rather than fighting over 100 other people also trying to talk about their own topics.

I get there is no need for 100 subforums, but there doesn't need to be. As I said before, people should be allowed to make a forum about 1 certain topic of discussion on a video game, however, there needs to be a line for certain topics that can form together.

Like for an example. You can have a "General Discussion" forum over the game Splatoon 2. And then if someone wants to make some post about the squid sisters, then let the first poster to make it keep it. Then if other forums are made such as the one I made, or which squid sister is better, or ny other topic relating to the original topic by character and such, then it would be fine to lock their forums and point them towards the forum that's like theirs, so they have a place where everyone wants to talk about the similar topic of choice. Keeping that forum alive, and helping people find others who want to talk about the same thing without worrying of being flooded by hundreds of other topics about the same game that has nothing to do with what topic they want to start.

This would not only help narrow down the forums while keeping plenty of topics to discuss, but it will also help people connect with each other. And I am no genius Joe, I don't want to put my opinion over anyone else. I just want to start a topic of discussion for others to take part in, where everyone has a clear idea of the topic rather than typing over each other.

I just think fair lines need to be made beyond just talking about anything related to a certain game just means that forum gets locked and the only forum available is the general forum that's a free for all.

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NaviAndMii

@patbacknitro Totally agree! Having one all-encompassing topic per game might make the forum 'homepage' look tidier, but it makes each individual thread - especially those about popular games - far too messy...you end up with multiple discussions happening simultaneously, individual discussions can become difficult to follow, interesting posts often end up getting lost in the mire...a slight relaxation of the rules could remedy the problem and make for a better forum experience

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NaviAndMii wrote:

@patbacknitro Totally agree! Having one all-encompassing topic per game might make the forum 'homepage' look tidier, but it makes each individual thread - especially those about popular games - far too messy...you end up with multiple discussions happening simultaneously, individual discussions can become difficult to follow, interesting posts often end up getting lost in the mire...a slight relaxation of the rules could remedy the problem and make for a better forum experience

Interesting feedback. I'm currently rewriting the forums rules, so I'm open to any more feedback or suggestions. I may consider the specific threads to be a case-by-case.

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NEStalgia

@NaviAndMii I have to agree with this. It's easy to keep going back to the BotW thread for example as one stop shopping, but what generally happens is I make a post, read some others, go back to it hours or a day later and several PAGES of content of different conversations have appeared since, so I effectively dispose of the old conversation and start new ones on whatever the latest goings on are which inevitably gets lost too.

Not sure the best approach. I like the simplicity of recent topics on the side bar, and yet conversations in busy threads are hard to follow. You kind of show up, shout your piece, drop the mic, and walk out

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FattyWhale_42

@TheLZdragon While there are many possible solutions, one that would be straightforward, and easy to implement, would be to limit new thread creation to only moderators/members of staff.

Of course you would create new threads for obvious topics (like new game announcements/releases), but you would also have a thread titled: "New-thread suggestions" so users could submit their suggestions for approval, and if deemed valid, a new thread could be created.

Like I said, that's just one possible solution.

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NaviAndMii

I dunno, I think most threads that get locked have been for valid reasons - it's just the odd one here and there that could stay...

Maybe certain 'spin off' topics related to a popular game could stay - at least for a day or so - just to see if a conversation breaks out! (..especially if it means less 'flooding' in the games main page)

..or perhaps, with certain 'borderline' topics, Moderators could seek a second opinion? (eg. one flags the topic, another locks it?)

..if a 'sub-topic' breaks out in a games main thread, maybe we, as Community Members, could ask Moderators if it might be worth giving the sub-topic its own thread a bit more often? (tag: @ moderator to ask a question? ..or have a live display of the Moderators who are currently online?)

The forum is great - and well maintained ..I just think a little tweak here and there could make it even better

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JaxonH

I kinda gotta agree with the side of locking, and keep in mind I've had more topics locked than just about anyone on this site lol. It can be frustrating, I know. But ultimately, if you think about it, something like that will be discussed for a day or 2, and then it's burnt up and there's nothing more to talk about, and the thread sits.

That said, I do think some subtopics deserve their own thread if someone so desires to start one. Case by case I think is the best anyone can do

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