See you soon then Wildvine53, if we can get our best racer in, I'll be worried. Streetpass Halifax does not tend to go easy in games. Well at least it's not tetris, one of the best we a member, we are yet to even approach victory in multiplayer tetris. On the bright side though, the two bronies in the group will be there.
Edit: He has he's passing this one. Check that he's on his way.
Here is the official statement from the Shout! Factory when they asked them why they are bot planning on releasing the show as a box set
"Guys, I understand the "Brony" movement, but one thing has to remain clear. This show was not intended for the older audience as much as it was intended for children. Retailers don't take into account the size of the audience bigger than its target. The target for this series, like it or not, is children. And young children's DVDs do not sell well when in large disc-count sets. Parents don't want to shell out $30-$40 for four discs, when they can spend less on a single disc. So the retailers make it clear that they want single disc sets.
We can create both, if the retailers agree to take both. But we cannot spend the necessary money to create complete season sets, if they're only going to sell online or at Shout! Factory Select, because retailers rejected them."
As for the whole "Show Accurate Ponies" never happening, every once and a while a thread pops up on Ponychan's merchandise section of letters that people have sent to Hasbro regarding Bronies. Usually, the Hasbro representative says that, while they are grateful that the bronies have increased the toy lines sales, they aren't currently thinking about making anything for them, or if so, they can't release that information to the public.
How is the color on those? I heard they were faded, although I'm pretty sure my eyes would get used to it
Faded colors? I wouldn't want any of my pony episodes looking like the Return of Harmony....
I'm pretty okay.
Formerly Destroyer360, Destroyer64, DestroyerInsertYourFavoriteRandomNumbersHere.
"Purple is a color." - Waluigi
Wait, quotes should be meaningful? Ugh, fine.
"I'm useless, but not for long. The future is coming on." - Gorillaz
Here is the official statement from the Shout! Factory when they asked them why they are bot planning on releasing the show as a box set
"Guys, I understand the "Brony" movement, but one thing has to remain clear. This show was not intended for the older audience as much as it was intended for children. Retailers don't take into account the size of the audience bigger than its target. The target for this series, like it or not, is children. And young children's DVDs do not sell well when in large disc-count sets. Parents don't want to shell out $30-$40 for four discs, when they can spend less on a single disc. So the retailers make it clear that they want single disc sets.
We can create both, if the retailers agree to take both. But we cannot spend the necessary money to create complete season sets, if they're only going to sell online or at Shout! Factory Select, because retailers rejected them."
As for the whole "Show Accurate Ponies" never happening, every once and a while a thread pops up on Ponychan's merchandise section of letters that people have sent to Hasbro regarding Bronies. Usually, the Hasbro representative says that, while they are grateful that the bronies have increased the toy lines sales, they aren't currently thinking about making anything for them, or if so, they can't release that information to the public.
Hmm, should we start a petition or grab the picket signs?
I'm pretty okay.
Formerly Destroyer360, Destroyer64, DestroyerInsertYourFavoriteRandomNumbersHere.
"Purple is a color." - Waluigi
Wait, quotes should be meaningful? Ugh, fine.
"I'm useless, but not for long. The future is coming on." - Gorillaz
Here is the official statement from the Shout! Factory when they asked them why they are bot planning on releasing the show as a box set
"Guys, I understand the "Brony" movement, but one thing has to remain clear. This show was not intended for the older audience as much as it was intended for children. Retailers don't take into account the size of the audience bigger than its target. The target for this series, like it or not, is children. And young children's DVDs do not sell well when in large disc-count sets. Parents don't want to shell out $30-$40 for four discs, when they can spend less on a single disc. So the retailers make it clear that they want single disc sets.
We can create both, if the retailers agree to take both. But we cannot spend the necessary money to create complete season sets, if they're only going to sell online or at Shout! Factory Select, because retailers rejected them."
As for the whole "Show Accurate Ponies" never happening, every once and a while a thread pops up on Ponychan's merchandise section of letters that people have sent to Hasbro regarding Bronies. Usually, the Hasbro representative says that, while they are grateful that the bronies have increased the toy lines sales, they aren't currently thinking about making anything for them, or if so, they can't release that information to the public.
Hmm, should we start a petition or grab the picket signs?
Ahahaha, funny, it will happen when it happens. For now though we must enjoy the show, till it ends and changes again and loses us. Then all that will be left is to get a good abridger on our side to bring us new laughter, joy and surprise as they spin their magic on it. After that we can get frustrated but we won't care anymore as were going to love and tolerate them regardless
Here is the official statement from the Shout! Factory when they asked them why they are bot planning on releasing the show as a box set
"Guys, I understand the "Brony" movement, but one thing has to remain clear. This show was not intended for the older audience as much as it was intended for children. Retailers don't take into account the size of the audience bigger than its target. The target for this series, like it or not, is children. And young children's DVDs do not sell well when in large disc-count sets. Parents don't want to shell out $30-$40 for four discs, when they can spend less on a single disc. So the retailers make it clear that they want single disc sets.
We can create both, if the retailers agree to take both. But we cannot spend the necessary money to create complete season sets, if they're only going to sell online or at Shout! Factory Select, because retailers rejected them."
As for the whole "Show Accurate Ponies" never happening, every once and a while a thread pops up on Ponychan's merchandise section of letters that people have sent to Hasbro regarding Bronies. Usually, the Hasbro representative says that, while they are grateful that the bronies have increased the toy lines sales, they aren't currently thinking about making anything for them, or if so, they can't release that information to the public.
Hmm, should we start a petition or grab the picket signs?
Ahahaha, funny, it will happen when it happens. For now though we must enjoy the show, till it ends and changes again and loses us. Then all that will be left is to get a good abridger on our side to bring us new laughter, joy and surprise as they spin their magic on it. After that we can get frustrated but we won't care anymore as were going to love and tolerate them regardless
Thus the cycle of kid-targeted shows that attract an older audience. Remember when Spongebob was good?
I'm pretty okay.
Formerly Destroyer360, Destroyer64, DestroyerInsertYourFavoriteRandomNumbersHere.
"Purple is a color." - Waluigi
Wait, quotes should be meaningful? Ugh, fine.
"I'm useless, but not for long. The future is coming on." - Gorillaz
Here is the official statement from the Shout! Factory when they asked them why they are bot planning on releasing the show as a box set
"Guys, I understand the "Brony" movement, but one thing has to remain clear. This show was not intended for the older audience as much as it was intended for children. Retailers don't take into account the size of the audience bigger than its target. The target for this series, like it or not, is children. And young children's DVDs do not sell well when in large disc-count sets. Parents don't want to shell out $30-$40 for four discs, when they can spend less on a single disc. So the retailers make it clear that they want single disc sets.
We can create both, if the retailers agree to take both. But we cannot spend the necessary money to create complete season sets, if they're only going to sell online or at Shout! Factory Select, because retailers rejected them."
As for the whole "Show Accurate Ponies" never happening, every once and a while a thread pops up on Ponychan's merchandise section of letters that people have sent to Hasbro regarding Bronies. Usually, the Hasbro representative says that, while they are grateful that the bronies have increased the toy lines sales, they aren't currently thinking about making anything for them, or if so, they can't release that information to the public.
Hmm, should we start a petition or grab the picket signs?
Ahahaha, funny, it will happen when it happens. For now though we must enjoy the show, till it ends and changes again and loses us. Then all that will be left is to get a good abridger on our side to bring us new laughter, joy and surprise as they spin their magic on it. After that we can get frustrated but we won't care anymore as were going to love and tolerate them regardless
Thus the cycle of kid-targeted shows that attract an older audience. Remember when Spongebob was good?
Nope, was he ever? Most of what I like of him now is a few stray episodes that feel nostalgic at this point, though occasionally I catch a new one worth watching. I don't really watch tv anymore, after ytv (Canadian tv channel) stopped putting on anime, cartoons started to slide down hill and I gave up on it. Books and video games filled in the free time it left.
Guest on NFR 57: http://nintendofreeradio.podbean.com/category/episode-57/
Here is the official statement from the Shout! Factory when they asked them why they are bot planning on releasing the show as a box set
"Guys, I understand the "Brony" movement, but one thing has to remain clear. This show was not intended for the older audience as much as it was intended for children. Retailers don't take into account the size of the audience bigger than its target. The target for this series, like it or not, is children. And young children's DVDs do not sell well when in large disc-count sets. Parents don't want to shell out $30-$40 for four discs, when they can spend less on a single disc. So the retailers make it clear that they want single disc sets.
We can create both, if the retailers agree to take both. But we cannot spend the necessary money to create complete season sets, if they're only going to sell online or at Shout! Factory Select, because retailers rejected them."
As for the whole "Show Accurate Ponies" never happening, every once and a while a thread pops up on Ponychan's merchandise section of letters that people have sent to Hasbro regarding Bronies. Usually, the Hasbro representative says that, while they are grateful that the bronies have increased the toy lines sales, they aren't currently thinking about making anything for them, or if so, they can't release that information to the public.
Hmm, should we start a petition or grab the picket signs?
My advice is to wait it out. Once these single discs have run their course, just like the Mario singles did, the large collector's sets will be released in an attempt to squeeze more money out of a fanbase. It'll happen, especially if we have children of our own and tell them our kids want to watch the full seasons and that we'll be willing to shell out $60.00 for Blu-Ray collections.
...Well? What are you waiting for! Get to parenting! XD j/k
Unfortunately, the DVD thing does make perfect sense. Anyone who has young kids or little siblings knows that they can — and will — watch the same episode or few episodes of something over and over and over again, which is why it's much more profitable for companies to just put out a bunch of those 4-episode discs.
Actually, I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. Here is a follow up statement from Shout! Factory, stating why they won't be releasing an entire season 1 box set anytime soon:
"I encourage you guys to peruse the forum through and through to find the number of times people have told me that the scope was far bigger than we could possibly imagine, only to find that we'd taken the chance and that the hundreds of thousands they promised resulted in hundreds...or...a couple thousand.
But okay.
For the sake of argument... For a four-disc complete first season, we'd probably need somewhere in the realm of 30,000-50,000 "sold through" for there to be the chance of a second full-season volume. That means we didn't just sell them to stores (because they can return their copies for a complete refund anytime they want; and the more they return, the fewer they buy of the next volume--if any, at all), but we sold them to stores and the stores then sold them to you, the consumers.
This is when you say, "Oh, there are WAY more than 30,000-50,000 fans! Piece of cake!"
Okay.
I have no problem with this. I'm also a big fan of Community, but I don't need to own it. And I'm a DVD/Blu-ray collector! Just because there are incredible fans, their numbers don't traditionally translate to guaranteed sales. There are a few notable exceptions to this rule: Star Wars and Star Trek have particularly large followings that also sell a lot of product. But even with all of the merchandise those franchise have sold, imagine the number of people who love them without ever having bought an action figure or book or collectible lithograph, etc. The percentage of Brony fans willing to BUY a $29.99-$39.99 complete season set must be high enough to warrant us spending the thousands of dollars it takes to produce, manufacture and market the set.
Here's the biggest catch of all.
Every one of those sets need to have been sold within North America. We are only the North American distributor for My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. Hasbro has accepted our offer of an advance to license this show. But they also have the option of accepting advances for licenses in every other territory in the world. Again, while they're clearly creative and love the content, they're also a business that needs to profit in order to stay in business. One of the best ways to do that is to break up the rights between territories. Pesky to you, I understand. But necessary to people like us. After all, we don't want companies from other countries encroaching on what we paid a high price for. So why should we encroach on another's territory? Does that mean you can't buy it from Amazon or whatever? Probably not. From what I understand, Amazon couldn't care less where you live. But we can't sell it to you directly, which is why...
"...can't you just make it available online for fans?"
There's another reason why we can't do this. For starters, we don't have some lowly temp here to burn DVDs upon your request. We manufacture everything we produce. So that means there's a minimum number that has to be manufactured and, believe it or not, the fewer you make, the more expensive it is. While I have no doubt there are enough Bronies out there to warrant a complete first season, are there enough that are A.) aware of the internet-only release? B.) Willing to buy an internet-only release? C.) living in North America and willing to buy the internet-only release? Again, believe it or not, not all Bronies hang out on the internet forums dedicated to My Little Pony. Not all Bronies even realize they're called "Bronies." If we can't get to them to let them know one of their favorite shows is available on DVD, how are we going to sell enough to validate spending the money and then expressly going against the wishes of the retailers, who've requested single discs releases that now have direct competition with a complete season set that's only available online?
There's also the question of digital rights. We're not guaranteed digital rights to every property we license. We try. God knows we try. But studios are eager to keep those for themselves. After all, it's yet another source of revenue for them. Makes perfect sense. I have no idea if we have the digital rights to these. It's not my department. If we do, maybe you'll see them appear on iTunes or something. Not sure. But, again, it would likely only be the episodes we're releasing at any given time. Why would we want to compete with ourselves by providing you with the full season digitally, if we're in need of selling a high number of single-disc releases in order to continue making them??
There are TONS of factors fans don't think about. They just walk into Best Buy or Target and get upset when they see single-disc sets. Or they don't see anything at all and that makes them even more upset. They don't understand the money that goes into producing the series and they don't understand the money we need to make back in order to KEEP producing the series.
Hasbro created a series for very young audiences. Turns out adults like it, too. But this isn't The Clone Wars. Or even Transformers: Prime. I'm sorry, gang. But I just don't see a high liklihood that a "collectible" set for adult fans is going to get made anytime soon. I'll happily cross my fingers for ya'. I'm enjoying the show and would love to work on a more complete version. But until something like that happens, I hope you enjoy the single disc releases as they're made available.
Big ups to Shout Factory for going into such detail about the nature of the business that most people don't think about or even consider. Seriously, they could have just left it at "We have no plans, sorry", but to give such a detailed response on the issue is excellent. Kudos!
Here is the official statement from the Shout! Factory when they asked them why they are bot planning on releasing the show as a box set
"Guys, I understand the "Brony" movement, but one thing has to remain clear. This show was not intended for the older audience as much as it was intended for children. Retailers don't take into account the size of the audience bigger than its target. The target for this series, like it or not, is children. And young children's DVDs do not sell well when in large disc-count sets. Parents don't want to shell out $30-$40 for four discs, when they can spend less on a single disc. So the retailers make it clear that they want single disc sets.
We can create both, if the retailers agree to take both. But we cannot spend the necessary money to create complete season sets, if they're only going to sell online or at Shout! Factory Select, because retailers rejected them."
As for the whole "Show Accurate Ponies" never happening, every once and a while a thread pops up on Ponychan's merchandise section of letters that people have sent to Hasbro regarding Bronies. Usually, the Hasbro representative says that, while they are grateful that the bronies have increased the toy lines sales, they aren't currently thinking about making anything for them, or if so, they can't release that information to the public.
Hmm, should we start a petition or grab the picket signs?
Ahahaha, funny, it will happen when it happens. For now though we must enjoy the show, till it ends and changes again and loses us. Then all that will be left is to get a good abridger on our side to bring us new laughter, joy and surprise as they spin their magic on it. After that we can get frustrated but we won't care anymore as were going to love and tolerate them regardless
Thus the cycle of kid-targeted shows that attract an older audience. Remember when Spongebob was good?
Nope, was he ever? Most of what I like of him now is a few stray episodes that feel nostalgic at this point, though occasionally I catch a new one worth watching. I don't really watch tv anymore, after ytv (Canadian tv channel) stopped putting on anime, cartoons started to slide down hill and I gave up on it. Books and video games filled in the free time it left.
I believe he used to have kind of an adult following (I don't think it was as big as ponies, because SB was bigger when the internet wasn't as widely used, and Viacom (who owns Nickelodeon, who owns Spongebob) likes to pull down internet videos of their IPs more than Hasbro does), but then somewhere around the fourth season, when the original creator left, Spongebob started to lose his charm, most new episode plots seemed much more stupid (amazing for Spongebob, right?) , and the animation didn't feel the same. So, I try to avoid new Spongebob episodes whenever possible. I hope this kinda crap doesn't start to infiltrate Equestria anytime soon....
I'm pretty okay.
Formerly Destroyer360, Destroyer64, DestroyerInsertYourFavoriteRandomNumbersHere.
"Purple is a color." - Waluigi
Wait, quotes should be meaningful? Ugh, fine.
"I'm useless, but not for long. The future is coming on." - Gorillaz
Also, I hardly ever watch TV that much now either. The internet has covered up most of it's place.
I'm pretty okay.
Formerly Destroyer360, Destroyer64, DestroyerInsertYourFavoriteRandomNumbersHere.
"Purple is a color." - Waluigi
Wait, quotes should be meaningful? Ugh, fine.
"I'm useless, but not for long. The future is coming on." - Gorillaz
Big ups to Shout Factory for going into such detail about the nature of the business that most people don't think about or even consider. Seriously, they could have just left it at "We have no plans, sorry", but to give such a detailed response on the issue is excellent. Kudos!
Actually, everybody kept emailing them, demanding them to release a full box, so finally they got tired, and so, they released this statement.
What is this nonesence about worring about toys (they are ok for me, if you want something more go to ebay) and DVD Box-sets (DL it from itunes or YT if you are not in USA, like me)? I shall ignore all this and enjoy what we have while we have it.
@Aqueous We shall not enter in a emotionless competition, for the good of the universe. Thanks for your offer, of course if you want all the feedback is taken into account. When the next chapter is up, hope you read it all the times you want and give me all the ideas and corrections you can. As I said, is a work in progress, thatnks for the prize non the less.
"And my soul from out that shadow that lies floating on the floor, Shall be lifted nevermore!"
"I'll just have to STOP. TIME!" - Twilight Sparkle
Big ups to Shout Factory for going into such detail about the nature of the business that most people don't think about or even consider. Seriously, they could have just left it at "We have no plans, sorry", but to give such a detailed response on the issue is excellent. Kudos!
Actually, everybody kept emailing them, demanding them to release a full box, so finally they got tired, and so, they released this statement.
To boot, let's also email retailers and ask them if they know of any plans for season sets. Target, Best Buy, and Toys R Us should be our priority stores. If they know there are people who want them, they'll let Shout know too.
Hmmm... maybe we could get Equestria Daily in on this? I unofficially declare Operation Blu-Ray Brony a go!
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