Tales Of Xillia 2 Remastered On The Way, With More To Come

I really have to get back into the Tales games! 🤎

Glad we're getting this once other systems exclusive! 🤎

Release them as one game, like on PS3? No.
Release them as separate games to make more money? YES!
– BANDAI NAMCO, probably.

So the obvious ones are Xillia 2, Symphonia 2, as these already had versions on PS3. But these are my least favourites.
Give me some classics, or ones that never came out in the west!

Eh the lesser of the two if it means getting the 1st game cheaper because it's not in a double pack I'm glad there releasing separately cuz I'm most likely not buying the 2nd game

Xillia 2 always felt like such a wasted opportunity to me. It has the collest locations of the entire series IMHO, but instead of showing more of those, they recycled 90% of the older maps from the first game.

Can't say more without heavily spoiling the first one.

Lloyd Irving should be in Smash.
Also…. My people or culture… which is worst?
Symphonia 2 or Xillia 2? Never played Xillia 2 but Symphonia 2 was total crap coming from one of the best entries in the series

I'll get Berseria when it comes out. Everyone says it's the best.

They better not censor any of these releases. Especially Berseria.

Found out too late that they neutered a violent but impactful scene for the west. Would like a fully uncut release.

The last Tales games I played was Tales of Symphonia, I think... I really liked it, but never finished it. Perhaps I should take a proper look at the series sometime soon.

@the_beaver Believe me, not everyone says it's the best since it's not. Vesperia, The Abyss, Symphonia, Graces, Phantasia and Xillia are better in map design, battle system, pacing and story. Berseria have a great cast of characters (among the best, yes) and a good story, but maps are just too big for the sake of being big (not as much as Zestiria, but still too big), pacing is pretty bad, and battle system is a mess (still fun at some point, but too chaotic). A good entry, but it's not the best, not even close.

@Yoshi3 Symphonia 2 is worse than Xillia 2. Symphonia is not that bad, I think, but it's just too different from Symphonia, they just don't seem to be in the same universe. Xillia 2 have a great battle system, but the good part of the story start basically only after 75% of the game. After that is pretty great, but it's not that much in the end.

There was one on the vita that I never got round to playing, hopefully that gets the remaster treatment at some point.

@SilverM thanks for the opinion . I also remember Emil from Symphonia 2 being one of the worst characters ever written and voice acted. Such a letdown.

@SilverM I don't know much about this series, I've only played Symphonia back in the day (and it was ok). I just say what I read in most places. Which one would you say it's the best?

Love the Tales series, but Namco really needs to start putting some actual effort in optimizing these before I ever buy one of their games again.

It baffles me how they still can't manage to do 60fps and good loading times on games that had that back during the Wii days on much, much, MUCH weaker hardware. And I'm willing to bet money on their next Tales re-release being just as mediocre in terms of performance.

@the_beaver probably Symphonia BUT has aged. Vesperia and The Abyss are great too.

@Alexface Tales of Symphonia 2 had awful voice acting lol

I must be the odd man here, but I enjoyed Xillia 2 more than the first one. Liked them both of course, but for some reason 2’s story was more interesting to me. 🤔
Maybe a replay of both would change that. Not sure. Regardless, the more these games become available with current systems - where the goal seems to be keeping the games available as far into the future as possible, the better in my opinion.
As far as prices go, I think we fail to realize the work that developers have to put in to these games, and the people who need to make a living. Life’s not free, nor is it cheap. I am paid for my work, and would think it is reasonable to pay others for their work.

Underrated sequel! Such a great story!!! But be warned those priming for Xillia 1. Don't look up the trailers or gameplay as spoilers everywhere in this game.

We really couldn't package these two games together.

Amen to that! I was worried that Xillia 2 might share Dawn's fate, but it sounds like even the latter may not be necessarily off the table as we speak.

@Vyacheslav333 they were two separate games on the PS3

@Samalik honestly them censoring stuff is a given at this point

@AndrosEGD that and each game takes 30-50 hours to finish a single playthrough and if you want to play all paths you need to play each game at least twice. I'm sure Namco will release a bundle on the eShop when both are released. But seperate releases make sense here.

Switch 2 version or we have a problem

@Yoshi3 Symphonia 2 is a grind fest and lots of generic side quests, story is underwhelming and kinda characterizes the OG cast oddly at times... It's actually ok if you play it bit by bit tho.

Xillia 2 on the other hand knocks it out of the park, some would even say it's better than the first one because it improves upon the gameplay and story is very solid.

Great news. In some ways I prefer 2 to 1, so I was hoping we'd get it as well. I really love the Xillia games, they're probably my favorites out of the Tales series.

@Wexter @AndrosEGD
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Tales of Xillia 1 & 2 official bundle, surprise!

My dream is finally coming true, all of the Tales games on a single Nintendo device.

Will it be 60fps on Switch 2? Will they update Xillia 1 to be?

@Vyacheslav333 congratulations??? You do realize that came out well after the fact right? My point was each game was pretty sizeable and worth individual releases (if you plan to 100% just Xillia 1 it's going to be 80-100 hours, and Xillia 2 is 120-150 hours). And if you read my comment (instead of finding a random eBay listing) you'd notice I said they'd probably do a bundle on the eShop as well once Xillia 2 comes out.

So congrats you missed the point so no "own" here at all. Now find a North American listing as that was a EU listing and there was never a NA bundle. The bundle was not available in every region.

@Wexter I believe his point is that you can put both games in one collection. Size and length be damned

I have both Atelier trilogies on one card per sub-series

So there really is no point in trying to separate them when they are this old

@Vyacheslav333 not in the states lol also don’t be cheap. You get buy them separately. The game is 40$ it’s already cheaper than its launch price by 20$

@Samalik yeah, by pointing at a very obscure bundle only released in a single region. And both releases are already $40 each and if they bundled them together you have a $70-80 collection. And Tales of Graces and Tales of Vesperia got individual releases so why should Xillia 1/2 have to be bundled together due to a obscure release?

If this was a $70 release I'd be like yeah... It should be a bundle, but these are already budget releases... And it gives the consumer an option to only get Xillia 1 if they don't like Xillia 2 and at a cheaper price point than a full release. And unlike other franchises the Tales of franchise constantly has steep sales not long after release so you'll probably be able to get both cheap soon anyways.

It just seems like complaining for the sake of complaining honestly.

@Wexter Look man, if the games in question are part of a unique back to back duology, I say it's fair to try and bundle them together when they become retro. Hell, Namco already did this with Klonoa. Not everyone is made of money. Additionally, many people here also prefer physical so they actually own their games, which doesn't go on sale in the same way as digital. And this is competing with other retro RPGs that are bundled too on Switch like the final fantasy bundles.

So yeah, acting like wanting a better, cohesive deal being "complain for the sake of complaining" is missing the point.

@Samalik and how many times do we hear people go "ughhh $70 for a bundle of two PS3 games wish they'd just release this part of the bundle separately as that is the one fan actually want!"

And I'd have the exact same argument there. Most of the time it is whining for the sake of whining especially for what is essentially a budget release for a remaster of one of the best JRPGs of the 7th generation.

So yeah... I'm more annoyed about the tone and attitude that was directed at me when I literally said they'd probably do a bundle release on the eShop as well.

@Wexter Xillia isn't an abstract collection like the Mario 3D Stars, man. This is a continuous story. There really is no sensible person that would ask for both games to be separate.

@Samalik except some people don't like Xillia 2. Some people really just want to replay Xillia 1 and that's kinda of it. There is nothing wrong with there being an option for someone to just buy the original at a lower price point. And as I said in my original comment there will probably be a bundled release with both games on the eShop/Steam/PSN etc.

I'm not arguing against bundles in principle either I just don't like bemoaning for the sake of bemoaning when it's already a budget release. And we legit saw the exact same bemoaning in the inverse with Galaxy 1+2 just a couple weeks ago.

What's wrong with there being an option to just buy Xillia 1 on its own. And odds are the developers only originally intended to do Xillia 1 because they don't even have a firm release date for Xillia 2. So they probably got a good chunk of the way through the first game and decided to do the 2nd game. So should they just delay the original just so it can release day-and-date with a sequel that was probably a later decision to remaster? And one that got lower scores than the original?

Notice how dumb this all sounds?

@Wexter Mario galaxy 1+2 was a game with a worse deal than the last Mario collection. 3 games arguable 20 bucks each, vs 2 games, one of which was in the previous collection, for 35 bucks each at cheapest.

Notice how dumb that sounds to a consumer? That they have to buy the same game at a higher price?

now, lets put that into perspective with Xillia. 2 games separately for 100 bucks, or 2 games bundled together for 50 bucks.... which one sounds like the better deal...

again, see how dumb this sounds?

People aren't made of money, so please, stop mocking people for thinking the money isn't worth it when their finance situation makes it so they can't buy as many games. I already mention that some people avoid digital games for a reason. You might be better off, and good for you, or you don't care about the ownership of your games, but others aren't in that situations

@Samalik You know as well as I do if bundled both games together it would not be for $50. Look at stuff like the Batman Arkham Collection came out in Switch it was $70 USD.

And once again as I repeat as the point keeps missing you. I'm not against bundles! I keep repeating over again that someone saying "it should had been a bundle like the original" is not the same as "it would had been nice if it was bundled with the original." Two completely different tones. One sounds entitled and whinging about a game that is already a budget release. The other is a I" would have preferred this."

But you also missed the point that Xillia 2 does not have a firm release date! That means it started later in development when remastering Xillia 1! So should they delay Xillia 1 to meet some arbitrary release of a bundle? How is that pro-consumer! Hey guys we're going to delay this fan favorite release so we can slaps the 2nd game in, increase the price and it's a game a good 1/3 of you don't even like!

How is that pro-consumer! You think they're just going to giveaway Xillia 2? Where did you pull this $50 price out for this hypothetical bundle? Also you neglect my point that Tales of games constantly go on STEEP sales.

The this is dumb comment was about the idea they should package in a game that does not even exist yet! Xillia 2 could come in 3 months, 6 months maybe a year! We don't know. Oh yes magically Ethier this game into existence for me so I'm not inconvenienced and can just have both games at once is entitled as *****. And you know as well as I if by the moons both games came out in a single package you're not getting both on the cart. One will be forced on you as a download just like Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD and every other PS3-era game in a bundle on Switch.

And we'd instead be hearing whining of "I'd pay more for Xillia 2 to be on a cartridge. Give the consumer an option to buy both separately physical Namco! Such greed" you know as well as I do that is the childish comments we'd be seeing if it was a Xillia 1+2 bundle.

I'm a massive Xillia fan, you know how much I'd love it if both games game out in a single package at $50? I'd be over the moon! But if you actually read my original comment I said as a fan that this makes sense. Both games are massive titles and let's be frank here Xillia 2 felt like a cash grab sequel even at the time and rubbed fans the wrong way.

@Wexter @AndrosEGD Excuses, excuses...
There was a physical bundle of Xillia 1 & 2 with Symphonia 2 as well. 3 JRPG games on one disc.

And don't tell this is not true that people complain about this exact same thing in every bundle release ever. Go back to articles about Final Fantasy X/X-2 Collection, or when Bayonetta 2 came out with Bayo 1 as a digital pack-in, or the Batman Arkham Collection, the BioShock Collection, Spyro Reignited, Boarderlands Legendary Collection. Go reread the comments on those and you'd see I'm right!

@Vyacheslav333 you know what made that bundle possible? All those games already being released. We don't even have a release date for Xillia 2 yet. So should they delay Xillia 1 to give you your bundle?

@Wexter It will be a good move for the customers, so, yeah.

@Wexter "Hey guys we're going to delay this fan favorite release so we can slaps the 2nd game in, increase the price and it's a game a good 1/3 of you don't even like!

How is that pro-consumer!"

It's almost like delaying a release to be complete is actually pro-consumer! (not that Xillia has any water to hold with it's censorship removing and altering content to the point of getting Japanese politicians talking but I digress)

@Samalik have you played Xillia and Xillia 2? They're complete on their own. It's almost as if both games came out at $60 USD on the PS3 individually and have enough gameplay on their own to last up to 80-120 hours and multiple playthroughs to see everything. That is a complete release.

So you want Bandai Namco to delay the release of Xillia 1 up to a year (because PS3 games are a notorious pain in the arses to port) so they can change $70-80 to include a game good chunk of Xillia 1 fans don't like, most likely have Xillia 2 not be on the cartridge (because this is a Switch 1 release)... Instead of keeping Xillia 1 a budget release and give people the option later of buying Xillia 2 (on the cartridge guaranteed) or wait for a potential bundle or a sale... Yeah...

@Wexter "have you played Xillia and Xillia 2? They're complete on their own"
So are games like Atelier.

I don't care man.