Tom Holland, if you're reading this - we're all huge fans of your work. We particularly enjoyed your 2017 film Spider-Man: Homecoming. Right, now that's out of the way, there's a new rumour doing the rounds that Netflix wants to cast the Marvel superstar as Link in a possible Legend of Zelda "movie" and/or "TV show".
This is all according to sources "close to" We Got This Covered, and are apparently "the same ones" who told the website a prequel to The Witcher Netflix series was in development before it was announced. WGTC goes on to mention how it's "unclear" if the Spider-Man star has been approached for the role yet.
Rumours about a live-action Legend of Zelda Netflix have been swirling about the internet since 2015. If Tom Holland was to take on such a role, we must admit, it would be slightly odd considering he's now been cast as Nathan Drake in Uncharted - an upcoming movie based on the PlayStation exclusive video game series of the same name.
We also don't even know what Nintendo's stance is on all of this. While it's currently got an animated Mario movie planned, do we really need a live-action Zelda movie or series to mark 35 years of Link? Share your thoughts down below.
[source wegotthiscovered.com, via nintendoeverything.com]
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I'm not supporting anything Netflix does right now.
I don't share the fascination that people have for Tom Holland and I personally don't see him as Link. Then again I don't see him as Spider-Man either.
Anyone else read the title and get really confused for a min?
No... just no... don't do Live Action.... do animated.
"It's a political message about child exploitation!"
"It's pedophilia!"
It's both. Remove it, let leadership fail to deal with it and hold them to the fire for the failure, take a position afterwards, and let's move the **** on. The United States is absolutely paralyzed on account of our """""leadership."""""
As for live action Zelda, I'd prefer a movie instead of a TV show. Fits the franchise's traditional "one game per time period" motif. A season of drama scripted for TV with Zelda characters is just going to bore those audiences and make me barf.
@fafonio "don't do Live Action.... do animated"
Don't do either, I'm quite happy seeing Netflix burning down at the moment. Thank you.
Sorry but Netflix is in the process of getting cancelled.
Okay this l laugh at! Just seeing old link cartoon image is funny! xD Ugh it was so bad when he spoke.
Don't believe anything that "we got this covered" says, 95% of their "exclusives" are totally fake, it has been like these for years!
Dang, somehow I feel like I'm the only one who hasn't heard of this cuties incident.
And honestly, I don't like the idea of Netflix making live action adaptation of anything at this point. It's usually 10% hit and 90% miss with anything they make live action, imo.
@Kalmaro I pretty much got bored with their original content and censorship, but only use it now to watch some anime.
I am a minority by their definition, but their diversity comes off more as tokenism—an afterthought—and marketing, rather than actually being diverse, which is more than just having all the colors of the rainbow, but rather including the diversity of IDEAS.
@Danny429 It was pretty bad. Just them making a movie with pedophilia in it and then the producers said they did it to show how bad pedophilia is.
That title made me dizzy
@Kalmaro same.
I've updated the headline, everyone.
@Liam_Doolan I actually loved the funny one that you had before, but I understand if this is more practical.
@Liam_Doolan Yeah that was confusing lol.
Just wondering, in all this Netflix debacle... has anyone watched the movie Cuties... or are we just in the witch-hunt train just because?
Not defending any of both sides since I haven't watched it... but from what I've read from critics, its a social commentary on girlhood in the social media age,(and it's got good reviews from it)
So, it makes me wonder... have anyone really seen it? Or are we just ignorantly screaming BURN THE WITCH!! because it touches on a delicate subject?
Great actor but his face type I don’t see being very similar to Link’s. If it were me, Link should be played by someone with a more elvish elegant sort of face.
@fafonio Honestly I think that sort of attitude is just a product of our time. The media has set an emotional reactionary cancel culture attitude as an enforced standard and as it turns out that can effect anything and anyone, including media giants like Netflix.
@GetShulked Orlando Bloom? His audition tape can be The Lord of the Rings trilogy.
@JayJ that is true. The cancel attitude is like a snowball, it just garners more and more people, but no one bothers to judge the material with their own eyes and minds. They just see what is trending with a # and hop into the pitchfork train.
I guess its something unique to this generation. But I'm a bit confused about all this incident because, as I said, I haven't watched it and can't make an opinion out of it. But what I've looked into:
Live action Zelda, as multiple well-intentioned fan films have shown, looks silly. This should be an animated feature or TV series
@sleepinglion Even the animated show looked silly.
Not sure if I want a Zelda Movie or TV show from Netflix.
just have Henry Cavil record his various emotive witcher grunts.
Ugh no. Please no.
don't think i want this. feels like it could ruin the game
A live action Zelda movie... no thank you! An 8 - 10 part animated adaptation of TP by Studio Ghibli... Hell yes!!! Take my rupees now to make it so.
Nope nope nope, they can't find an actor that looks the part right..
Possibly an actress though.... Worked for Black Butler.
There's a reason why almost all Link cosplayers are women.
@Menardi They are so far not far from Disney/Marvel with forced diversity for social justice and progressive culture, as well as other Hollywood studios.
Ghostbusters 2016? Yes, attack the core fanbase (even though some are actual jerks), but keep the issues with racism like having the ONE black girl be working class still, or how New York City has very few minorities.
Mulan? Yes, a movie that still has the controversy of being filmed in Xinjiang where Uighurs are being persecuted in concentration camps while working with a government that has a ton of human rights abuses (and no respect for IP).
Marvel comics: make an Asian Spider-Man (Cindy), a black Captain America (Sam), Asian Hulk (Amadeus), black Iron Man (Riri) and so on instead of original characters. I don’t feel any love towards people taking those roles because they just become “the black Captain America” and so on instead of their own character we relate to and follow. I don’t care if Peter Parker or Steve Rogers are white, I care about them as characters, not caricatures. This is why when DC made a black Wally West, it was forced and boring until he finally became his own character as the cousin of the original ginger Wally I love.
But yeah: most “diversity” I see is hypocrisy and marketing with low effort.
@fafonio I haven't watched it either, nor have I cancelled my subscription, or joined the witch hunt, BUT!!
I did watch a "reaction" video of someone who did watch it, and this person also included some short clips from the movie, and to be honest... it IS very, very inappropriate.
The clips were gracefully censored by this person, which should already tell you something, because we really don't need to literally see 11-year-olds doing suggestive dances and literally shove their behinds into the camera.
But I suppose I am already saying too much about the subject, as I also really don't agree on the whole volatile way people go about pretty much anything these days.
As for a live adaptation to Zelda... I honestly hope not. I felt Witcher 3 was really bad and that was an adaptation of a serious looking game. I can't imagine how they would butcher Zelda's more cartoonesque style.
Though I wouldn't mind seeing a real live adaptation of the "Excuuuuuse me princess." scene.
But Orlando bloom would be best link.
Again with this? Didn't last time some "rumor" went around about doing this and Nintendo later said that it was false?
Not sure about it this time until Nintendo and Netflix confirm it. 😆
@Mr_Persona could be worse... It could be the CDi Link 😁
@Daniel36 I was just reading into the subject. I think this article sums it up really well, its a good 5 minute read with some thought inducing arguments.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/cuties-is-an-unflinching-look-at-what-it-means-to-be-a-preteen-girl-no-wonder-people-cant-handle-it/2020/09/16/42fa1bc2-f783-11ea-a275-1a2c2d36e1f1_story.html
I think people are just misguided about the whole subject. (And yes... the marketing materials were terrible)
I've read about the scenes... and I just don't want to see them because it would make me uncomfortable... and maybe that's the whole point of the film.
Sorry but can't see Tom Holland as link. Still what this fascinating NL got with casting mcu stars for Nintendo roles in movies. Would rather see them hiring an mute actor if they have to do an live action as I prefer animated
@fafonio
Have not seen it since it not my thing, but find the outrage to be an bit extreme. As yes they made some dumb marketing plan, but my simple reason is this. Do girls really do this, and the answer is yes they do. Would be more angry that social media finds no problem that young teen girls and boys can post these kind of video or Pic then that their is an movie about an group of dancing girls.
@Arnold-Kage I think that's exactly the point of the film. I mean, it touches on a delicate subject... but something that preteen girls do right now. And its a problem worth shedding light into, because this generation is transforming this oversexualization of girls in social media into a real issue.
Just because the film shows us images that people can't handle doesn't mean we should ignore the problem. French storytelling and filming is usually really straight-to-the-face.
"Netflix assumed the risk the filmmakers took for the purpose of bringing us this uncomfortable, challenging but ultimately worthwhile work. Can we handle it? Or should it be watched with training wheels — with film studies and women’s history professors on speed dial, to prevent us from misinterpreting a critique of society as an endorsement?"
But anyway...... NO I don't want to see an actor portraying Link in Live Action... I don't want to play my games and then picture I'm moving around Tom Holland, even though I like the guy .... just no. And he is going to be Nathan Drake which was a big NO before.
Please NO... he does NOT fit Links character AT ALL. Please just do animated... pixar-esque or ghibli studio style... Link doesn't need to talk either. Anyone see Modest Heroes?? The two aquatic kids hardly speak a word except to call out each others names when they get separated, a beautiful ghibli style story told just through their expressions and the crazy events that transpire. A beautiful artistic film. Please please please do Zelda right....
@fafonio Well, yeah, French film is always very in your face, but in this instance I do too feel they took it way too far.
Oversexualization of girls has been a problem for YEARS, if not decades. "social" media is just another outlet for that issue. And while I wholeheartedly agree that it is an issue that shouldn't be ignored, I honestly don't think this movie is the way to tackle the issue, or even meant to tackle the issue.
Unless... there is no such thing as bad publicity. We can all agree that a nerve has been struck here and a LOOOOOT of people are talking about it. But something tells me that Netflix didn't want to bring a point across and lose billions at the same time... So...
I don't know. It's weird. I guess it's a good thing that my YouTube feed is currently filling up with stories about chlid abuse, people like Epstein finally getting caught, all that jazz.
I promise I won't continue this debate now. It's an interesting one, but I don't think NintendoLife is the place for it.
And honestly, Hollywood should just stop trying to bring videogame (or, actually, both videogame or literary) franchises to the screen, because they are so terribly inept... It's a shame making shows is so expensive, because I am sure there are hundreds of people who could do a much better job, given the opportunity.
@Daniel36 wholeheartedly agree. I think I went down the rabbit hole out of curiosity as why the first comments were grabbing their pitchforks against Netflix. It's not the site to discuss about it.
Wow. Just a few month ago everyone was screaming with joy at everything related to Netflix. People called them progressive and the pinnacle of quality. But then, because of one misinterpreted show (which I didn't even see since I don't have any interest in it - so don't gang up on me), everyone's hating on them and pointing out all their obvious flaws. Seems a bit hypocritical, IMO.
Someone's got to say it...
"Well excuuuuuse me, princess"
Excuuusssseee me, prinses.
I hope link keeps more silent Nf serious this time around.
@Dm9982 yep. Me too
Please no. No. No. No. No. No thank you. Please no.
@NightBeast Good point. Personally, I was never singing praises to Netflix myself because binge culture to me is worse than being a couch potato. I never even started using Netflix until a few months ago until my girlfriend moved in during the pandemic and brought her account over. So she uses it to sleep and I use it for background viewing while training martial arts.
@GamerD oh no
@Severian Well, I've enjoyed some of their stuff like Jessica Jones or Bojack Horseman... I've even sat through their recent Cursed series (which is btw better than everyone's saying - it's not a masterpiece by any means but it's a nice show to watch while eating pizza) but I will be the first one to say most of the stuff on Netflix is just boring. Filled with today's minority agenda (which, I guess, is a good thing but I really think that these issues should be integrated into the plot and not just thrown in at the last moment) and predictable plot twists, they leave me bored at best. The best example being The Umbrella Academy - pretty to look at but it puts me to sleep faster than any Phil Collins song.
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Getting back to Zelda: I guess I'm in the minority here, but I would really like to see Zelda live action series. And Tom Holland is actually quite a good fit for Link - although I really doubt that he will be silent throughout the whole series))
What's all that fuss about Netflix and pedophilia and such? 🤨
Could someone enlighten me, please?
EDIT: Never mind, I figured it out.
WHoa, lots of alt right on the comments. Amazing.
@NightBeast I agree some shows are worth watching, I just don't find most of it that great or worthy of all the high praise they get, which I suspect is mostly hyperbole like a Yelp review with someone saying "BEST TACOS EVER!!!"
But yes, on topic with Zelda: I don't mind Tom Holland taking a role, and I wouldn't care much for it being on NetFlix or not because I think Nintendo should have its own adaptation in-house instead like the Mario movie.
The only exception is of Ghibli does Zelda--though I suspect it would be Princess Mononoke and Nausicaa by that point!
@Kalmaro wait netflix made a show with pedaphelia in it? Are you referring to „Unspeakable Act“?
And again we still have media outlets and a government that promotes violence.
It is a pretty www wild wacky world we are in.
Cancel culture has gotten out of hand!
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, i actually started this rumour.
Irregardless of Link sees the light of day I am stoked to have a Drake movie coming and know a cool actor has signed on to play him that can pull of Drake's personality. I just hope it does not dissolve into a Jones film using guns instead of whips. Maybe it will do a tongue in cheek moment and have a cameo of Josh Gates sitting at a bar and Drake sits next to him to order a beer and the two say hello for a brief moment on screen!
@fafonio Exactly, people seem pretty misinformed on it. From my understanding they didn’t even make it. Is was some French award winning movie that they bringing to the service. Now, Netflix’s marketing for it is kind of messed up when you compare it to the originals.
I can almost smell neckbeards
Did we learn nothing from Wand of Gamelon, Lets just stick with Nintendo only having and making Zelda games nothing else.
I’d watch it. He’s pretty charismatic and boyish so it’d work.
If there was ever a Zelda tv show, animated or otherwise they’d need to have Link speak. I’m pretty tired of die hards insisting that Nintendo characters never talk because that’s how they are in games.
A good writer and voice/actor combo could pull it off.
@fafonio a lot of people have, and it’s scummy.
@fafonio
Think it more European story telling as I'm from the Netherlands, and most of the outrage seems to be from the USA from what I gather. No other country besides the usual ones seem to have their political leaders calling for Netflix to present themselves in front of them.
Besides I mostly think most forget that Kids copy what they see, and I can name an least 100 TV shows for kids that focus on twerking. Not to mention what most singers wear in videoclips. So of course they want to wear the same.
Also want anime over live action, but mostly because I don't trust Hollywood not to ***** it up
Yes yes yes BUT only if he can say excuuuuuuussee me princess in it LOL
Legend with Tom Cruise & Tim Curry is the best Zelda movie we never had.
Well.... he’s starring in the latest big film, The Devil All The Times, si he is definitely close to Netflix. As cool as he is, hope he say something soon if NDAs allows.
I'm not subscribed to Netflix for a month because of the Cuties Situation. Wanted to watch The Office, Aggretsuko, and Glitch Techs, but oh well.
@Arnold-Kage I am also from the Netherlands, but our cinema has been quite subdued compared to the 70s to 90s... but yes, most outrage is from overseas.
We Got this Covered is the epitome of unsubstantiated rumors. Never take anything they say to heart.
@Scrubicius Just look up the cuties Scandal.
I'm hoping this is real. The TV show or movie at least. Is Tom Holland the right/best person? I like him a lot. But it remains to be seen if it's wise to stretch yourself thin on all these big franchises (Spiderman/MCU, Uncharted and now possibly LoZ). Otherwise, I think Zelda is one of the franchises that is ripe for a live action adaption. Or an animated one if that's what it takes
As much as I love Tom Holland, I cant see him as a link actor, too energetic.
@Kalmaro Cuties was made by FRANCE, netflix has the rights to the international distribution.
if Netflix indeed make a live-action movie or TV series for the Legend of Zelda franchise, how they gonna adress the fact that Link never speak in the Legend of Zelda games.
can Netflix make a decent live-action movie or TV series for the Legend of Zelda franchise?are they willing to pay a lot of money to make a Legend of Zelda movie or TV series?we are taking about Avengers Infinity War bugdet to make a decent live-action movie or TV series for the Legend of Zelda franchise.
@Kalmaro dude I think you’re just getting your pitchforks out uninformed.
@Daniel36
That true, but was just talking pure the outrage. Suspect most saw the trailer, and just went on with their life.
@Nemesis666 Even Nancy Pelosi’s daughter and Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D) are against the film. You don’t have to be alt-right to think soft child porn is wrong.
Lots of Netflix hate here? Did I miss something that they’ve done?
.. oh it’s about the cutesies nonsense that the Fox News viewers have picked up on, and the idea turns them on - so they’re disgusted by it (but won’t watch it - because they’re scared it might turn them on.. sickos)
No thanks. Do not want. Castlevania Animated delivered some brilliant gems and gorgeous visuals, but a pack of first graders could do a more cohesive writing job. Its disjointed, immature and beyond amateurish and I've got no idea how those writers even managed to get work with their crappy skills. I'd expect TLoZ to get similar treatment if THIS is Netflix' idea of quality script. Besides I've got the Captain N and cartoon Legend of Zelda boxsets for fun but cheesy romps.
@fafonio I wouldn't call it unique to today's culture. Its the same side of the coin of extreme repression attitudes.
I haven't seen or heard of cuties till now, so I don't know if its people trying to cover up their creepy pedophilia, or if its like a Plague Dogs thing.
@Tempestryke you should read the article I posted above. Gives you some context if you haven’t watched it.
It’s unique to today’s culture in a way in which people gather their hate around a # without even knowing the subject at hand. But this time, it has more impact on the industry. Thus it’s name cancellation culture.
It’s the equivalent to the crazy moms of the 90s rallying up to cancel Pokemon because they thought Pikachu meant Satan backwards in Japanese.
Now imagine giving power to those uninformed minds in Twitter and you’ve got this generation’s circus trick.
I don't think anything will come of it tbh. Nintendo is rather protective of their ips fortunately.
@LUIGITORNADO but have YOU watched it? Or are you making your opinion based on others’ opinions about it? Because that is EXACTLY the problem I’m talking about.
@Giancarlothomaz I could imagine yes they can if someone is willing to pay for it. Netflix doesn’t pay all their content.
I dont think zelda,can be traslated to a live action movie or series and be faithful to the spirit of the videogame. I think ovas of some points of the history would be a better approach. Like the sealing war, the fight of hylia and demise and eventual rise of skyloft, other perspective of ganondorfs plot to take over hyrule in ocarina, its execution. All without link.
@fafonio But aren't you doing the same thing by basing your opinion on said article without watching it yourself?
Don't get me wrong, I agree with some of your points, but I have also checked articles and opinions that talk about the scenes without seeing it myself and I reached the conclusion that I agree with others about the movie being too explicit to make a point that can be reached with less exposure. I also fail to see how the movie will make a point if the people feel too creeped out to check it and why is that point necessary if people already reject that content in the first place. From my point of view, you don't need to watch something to consider it's content inappropriate if you inform yourself enough and yeah, sure, some people will jump in the cancel bandwagon just because, but I think that it shows that maybe a movie revolving around this theme in this way wasn't the appropriate way of doing this when it's rejected by so many people.
The movie might also be used as "fuel" for the wrong people despite of trying to accomplish the opposite because of trying too hard to expose it by showing that type of content. For example, while not being the same, "Sleepers" touches pedophilia and other crude themes and I think it does a great job at handling them without giving material for the wrong crowd.
Not sure why we need a live action Zelda when we have the cartoon. I just wish they had made more episodes of it.
Tom Holland’s best work was his Rhianna Umbrella lip sync battle. Amazing
@fafonio You should read some reviews on it. I like bringing awareness to an actual issue, but it seems they did it in such a disgusting way. I hate that pedo culture is actually becoming a thing. I wish I could protect my children from social media, and in some cases, media in general.
On Topic: I can really see Tom Holland being perfect for Link. Especially if it were just his voice in animation.
@brandonbwii I've read multiple reviews about it now. Read the article I posted above, it brings good points.
WGTC is garbage and clickbait. A scoop from them means nothing.
I have never seen a rumour bring people together against it like this. Hopefully this is just a rumour and Zelda will forever remain a videogame only developed by Nintendo and nothing else (this mistakes never happened in the past, I'm in denial)
@fafonio And what was I uninformed about?
@Sans_Undertale How does that change that Netflix has been supporting it?
@Clammy
"You don't want to watch 11 year old girls twerk in tight clothing while the camera pans over them slowly and suggestively? Then it turns you on, sicko!" What a stupid mentality.
@Kalmaro What about it? Why is everyone getting their hipsters in a ruck over Cuties?
@fafonio imagine making CP ironically to tell CP is bad by making CP. It's an argument that defeats itself because this is like me telling my patients' parents to not angrily hit their children... By demonstrating to the parents when I hit their children.
I hope this is as good as Wand Of Gannalon! That was a masterpiece.
@sanderev It did! It would need to be solid animation, likely computer generated. Link manages to look awesome in Nintendo's rendered cut-scenes
Not sure about a live action show but I'll take a anime. I don't mind if it's a original story or adaptions of the games.
@BreathingMiit Mosyly because people don't support pedophilia yet and the movie actually records kids performing acts that can only be described as sexual in front of adults.
Then, the people making the movie claimed they did it to show how bad child exploitation is.
It's like recording yourself actually shooting puppies in the head to show how bad shooting puppies is. It doesn't make sense.
@Kalmaro it’s 2020. Nothing makes sense anymore.
Making sense or being vaguely coherent is a sign of weakness now. That’s just the way the world is now.
@Kalmaro have a heart my good sir, I completely agree.
@Classic603 : bit of a sick imagination you have there. I personally haven’t seen it, so either that’s how you imagine it, or you’ve seen it and thats what you got from it?
Either way.. I’ll just carry on not watching it, and won’t let it affect my other viewing
But you might want to go seek some help
@Clammy
Buddy, that isn't how it works. It doesn't take an imagination to read reviews, and being against something doesn't make you somehow a closeted pedo.
@Classic603 : my point being you’ve not seen it, so your reaction to it is purely based on your own imagination.
I’ve not seen it either, and it’s not my thing, so I won’t be seeing it. But I can’t judge it because I haven’t seen it, any more than you can.
And judging by a lot of what I’ve read on line, most of the news sources which are telling people to be up in arms about it - haven’t seen it either.
So everyone is getting their knickers in a twist about something that only exists inside their own imagination
@Clammy
And I'm saying that isn't how it works. Do I need to own a slave to be against slavery? Do I need to try drugs to be anti drug? No. I can only go off of what I've seen and heard.
And so far, all I've heard is that this film was made in a tasteless way that supposedly is anti pedophilia, yet seems to promote it with lewd dances done in tight outfits. One doesn't have to taste it to know it's sh*t, kid.
Oh God please no
Removed - inappropriate
Hey, if they could guarantee a great story that is faithful to the source material then I am all for it. The problem with the franchise (and why we have never seen a live action adaptation) is that Link has always been the "silent hero". Its kind of sudo-you-are-the-hero concept with Link (which is why you can rename him in almost all of his games) but at the same time he is his own character. Its a slippery slop and honestly I think the fan base will always be split, no matter what decision they go with. I just can't imagine a Link who has voice lines but its been done before so it wouldn't be a new thing technically.
@BreathingMiit You are speaking for all pedophiles then?
I've seen enough to know that what they had those children doing on the screen off of it is something that would be criminal in any other setting.
Link and Zelda should both be at least partly Asian.
@fafonio people have always rallied against things born out of ignorance and outright lies.
@fafonio
You realize those critics are either blind morons or are pedophiles right? All the news articles defending it, they're either complicate or involved, and likely the latter. You really trust what the Washington post has to say on the matter?
You don't have to watch movies to know what inappropriate content is in it these days, there are so many websites that list it vaguely or in detail. Even IMDB classified Cuties as pedophilia.
If it were an animated film sexualizing 11 year old cartoon characters; purposely making you uncomfortable, that would be a film showing how bad the exploitation is. I'm sure a few pedos would get off on the cartoon still, but it wouldn't exploit any real lives, would it? But these are real children, real girls, cast for a movie that shows them in a horrible light for everyone to gawk at.
There is no excuse for it and all these news outlets falling in line to repeat the lies like a Mockingbird, it's sick. Don't be asleep to child molestation and exploitation.
@Kalmaro
All very good points. Totally agree with you.
You seem to be one of the few voices of reason that I often see in the comment section here.
nintendo aint letting that happen
@Kalmaro : what you do to get off is your own business, just please stay away from my family
@Clammy That's pretty much how I feel about everyone else.
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