Yesterday, a listing over on Amazon Spain seemingly revealed the European physical version of Assassin's Creed: The Rebel Collection (comprised of Assassin’s Creed IV: Black Flag and Assassin’s Creed Rogue) would require users to download the second game.
While we await a more official confirmation about how exactly this two-in-one physical release will be handled in this region, a ResetEra user known as 'olobolger' reached out to Ubisoft Support on Amazon and asked if the situation would be the same for the North American physical release of The Rebel Collection.
In response, they were told by a representative that both games would be on one cartridge. Here's a screenshot of the exchange (click/tap to enlarge):
The user was prompted to ask this question when noticing how Amazon still listed the "previous cover" in this particular region:
As they still have the previous cover without the partial download info banner, I went to the Amazon.com listing and directly asked if both games are on [cartridge]. I was expecting a generic answer (This is a [cartridge] version or something along those lines) or no response at all.
For anyone doubting the authenticity of the reply on Amazon, it's labeled "manufacturer" – meaning a verified representative has answered the question.
What do you think about the above response on Amazon? Share your thoughts below.
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[source gonintendo.com]
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If that is case I will import someday.
I hate it when you buy a collection physically and they force you to download the second half of it...I mean the reason people buy the collection physically instead of downloading is to own the cartridge with the entire collection included. Also it's unfair that they're only doing this to europe.
Thanks for keeping us up to date on this issue. As a European resident, I would opt for importing the American version. I did the same with Dragon's Dogma.
@Yoshinator
Well, you can import it. But I agree, it's stupid.
I'll believe that when I see it.
Sweeeeeet. I'm actually really looking forward to this release. I played black flag but never finished it. I never got around to rogue either.
As long as Amazon, GameStop and or BestBuy has both on-cart then good but also shouldn't have to do a Release day patch as well.
@Xelha what if you buy it and they release a patch? You may not be able to download it from the europe eshop if its a US cart
@Tonyo : Patches will download regardless of the region of the software, so there's absolutely no problem there. DLC is another story as they are tied to purchases in a specific region's eShop (and certain games may not be identical between regions).
@Silly_G well then how will anyone be able to download the dlc for black flag like freedom cry? Its obvious that will be downloadable dlc like AC3, you will need to set up a US account?
Well that’s good news. But i’m still going to wait for reviews on the game. After AC3 on Switch, i’m just gonna wait and see how this version turns out. Hopefully it’s an improvement over AC3.
What’s the release date? I’ll import. I’m in America in November though.
ACIV was the last good one before Ubisoft went on a complete downhill spike in quality with their later games like Unity and Syndicate, which basically made them have to reevaluate the series direction with Origins and Odyssey
I might pick this up but I also have to place my pre order for Cyberpunk 2077 so that will probably end up being put on the back burner for me personally
I find the fact that this question even needs to be asked incredibly depressing.
Good job UbiSoft, you're one step better than Activision and Capcom now.
WTF Ubisoft? I mean, I'm in the US, but still...lol
Anyways, only reason I'm getting is for Black Flag. I want to try and give this game another try, I never beat it and lost interest after a while, but I enjoyed the pirate ship part of it.
I am going to wait and see, they already pulled the bait-n-switch on Europe.
I'm tired of one region getting the whole game or collection on one game cart while another region has to download. If the Asian region or whoever gets it all on one cart the rest the world should get it all on one cart.
@NintendoByNature I’ll be pickin it up, too! I loved Black Flag and Rogue. Rogue was something fresh after being a good guy for 6 games.
But truly, I’m all in for the sea shanties. When I got BF again on XB1, I was singing shanties at work for at least three weeks. My coworkers don’t even like the word Creed now.
@HobbitGamer didn't know you're a bad guy in rogue! Sweet news. I kinda stopped playing after black flag. I loved the scenery of black flag but the ship battles were kind of a pain for me. Hoping I can get used to them now. Ahh yes though, I love the sweet jaunting tunes of a good pirate ship.
Europeans getting an inferior version to the US... by a European company? Thanks, Ubisoft.
For once America gets the better version.
AC3 was poorly handled on switch, i'll wait for framerate tests before believing ACIV is any better
Hopefully this is the case. I'll be picking this up when it gets cheaper if so.
I’ll give Ubisoft a little bit of credit here. At least it seems like they are listening to some of their customers.
Well, at least there's an actual cartridge inside the case instead of a one-time-use code. Bethesda set the bar really low with the Switch version Wolfenstein: Youngblood.
@Falien I thought this division of Ubisoft was in Canada.
@Tonyo Are you sure that it won't be included in the file?
@CurryPowderKeg79
From what I understand in certain parts of Asia, the Switch is available but with no accompanying EShop. Therefore it’s a necessity to sell it completely on cartridge for those regions.
@Yoshinator
Yes, and I’m still salty about my Bayonetta 1 & 2 collection.
@DrDaisy dlc will be a download from eshop just like AC3 otherwise the cart would be over 16gb.
This is rather funny.... the PS Vita's HD collections of PS2 games like Jak and Dexter, Sly Cooper, Ratchet and clank were able to fit onto a single cart, and there were 3 games on each.
Vita could of used with more better games but at least with game cards they didn't get lazy/cheap with if only the memory cards were the same
1 This rep is likely mistaken.
2 It’s a miracle even Assassins Creed 4 can fit all on the cart. How bout some realistic expectations here? I get it when one game is split in half because they want to use a 8gb cart for a 20gb game, but come on. When you bundle multiple full fat current gen and 7th gen releases, you can only fit so much on a cart. And realistically 16gb is the max anyone is willing to pay for that’s not subsidized (only 3 cases in 3 years of 32gb carts being used).
They’re putting the entire game of ACIV on cart, which could have been on an 8gb cart and split in half... AC Rogue is just a freebie. I get wanting everything on a cart, but jeeze. They’re already putting the entire ACIV game on a 16gb cart. They didn’t have to include Rogue at all. Take the free extra game and be happy. Compromise means meeting in the middle. I understand not wanting a single game split in half but they haven’t done that here. Sure, they didn’t opt for a 32gb cart to fit multiple games on, but again... compromise. This is fair.
I’m all for physical carts, but this provides me with Assassins Creed IV on cart. That’s what I’m buying here. Rogue is a bonus digital game. And even if both games were digital only I wouldn’t care because I’m a gamer first. That comes before OCD collector mindset. It’s 2020- The digital age is upon us. Get with the times or get left behind, only playing whatever physical-only scraps are left over. Not only has the world moved on to digital, it’s now moving on again to streaming. At least with digital, like physical, you own the physical bytes of information locally (cartridge, sd card, who cares- as long as it’s owned locally where nobody can take it away from you like with streaming).
TL;DR
Let’s not be unreasonable. We would all like to see every single release be 100% on cart, no updates, all DLC included, etc etc, but that’s just not the world we live in. Clearly people aren’t completely rigid about this else nobody would buy any physical games, since 99% of them require updates, patches and DLC. I can appreciate drawing a line when a single game is split in half, but when you’re dealing with multiple AAA games in a collection, there are going to be some realistic limits with what to expect. Assassins Creed 4 is all on a 16gb cart, and that’s awesome. That alone is worth it. Consider Rogue a bonus. A little extra tossed in on the side. And if it turns out the rep wasn’t mistaken and both games are all on one cart (don’t see how that’s possible though) then even better.
@ClassSonicSatAm
That’s because those games were incredibly scaled back and some of the worst ports on the system, easily fitting on a small cart. And plenty of Vita games had downloads as well such as Final Fantasy X/X-2 and Sly Cooper Collection, or digital only RE Revelations 2 that had to be imported.
Assassin’s Creed IV: Black Flag on WiiU was only about 13GB, so if we assume Rogue is similar, they could both fit onto a Switch cart, so I really hope this is correct because no way I'm ever buying the physical edition of a game if the game is not on the cart inside
Incorrect.
Assassins Creed Rogue Collection requires a download in order to play Rogue in the US/NA. It is 7GB, and another 1GB for additional content (if you want it) like a manga, etc.
There is NO indication on the packaging, whatsoever, that a download is required. There is no code, you have to do the download through the game/cart menu itself. So I assume you will need to have the game cart in your switch in order to play Rogue. The switch still only has the one icon on the home screen.
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