If recent rumours are to be believed, Microsoft intends to bring its Xbox Game Pass service to the Nintendo Switch and multiple other platforms.
During an interview at the start of this month with GeekWire, the head of Xbox Phil Spencer opened up about the company's plans to push cross-device play, with the Game Pass subscription service:
“We want to bring Game Pass to any device that somebody wants to play on. Not just because it’s our business, but really because the business model allows for people to consume and find games that they wouldn’t have played in any other space."
Spencer was also quick to brush-off concerns about Game Pass on other platforms impacting Microsoft's own console sales:
"That is not where you make money. The business inside of games is really selling games, and selling access to games and content in means like that is the fundamental business. So if you open it up, the more often people can play, the more they’re enjoying the art form. It increases the size of the business.”
What do you think about Phil's comments? Tell us down below.
[source geekwire.com]
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halo mcc on switch possibility?
Ahhhhhh just make it happen!!
Just bring it to the Ouya or the virtual boy smh
Holy cow that would be insane on Switch! As an Xbox one owner I don’t bother with game pass at all but this certainly would change things!
Game Pass is awesome. Just look at the games list it has. Freakin A+.
Any device, huh?
It would be horrible if all of these rumors were wrong wouldn't it? haha
@NintonicGamer Was quite literally thinking the same thing
Seems like Microsoft cares more about making a profit than their actually console
I never thought I'd live to see the day. Master Chief on a Nintendo console... This really is the ultimate timeline.
@SheldonRandoms That's simply not possible. What kind of madman would put Xbox games on the GameSphere? Xbox simply isn't spherical!
Does this mean that Microsoft is dropping out of making consoles and just doing this on other systems? If so, then it's just Nintendo and Sony!!!! That's fine by me, only two consoles to buy for now on instead of three!!!
...But, don't forget that you officially never own the games, you're just paying a hefty price to rent them and play them. Now, if Microsoft brings their store over, and you can purchase the games and download them through an app on the Switch or PS4, that would be nice...that way you can at least own them instead of paying a monthly fee plus more.
They may as well not even have a console to sell at this point
@ilikeike okamaaaa gamesphere
Aaaand cue all the folks that are against it because you don’t own a physical game, or a game can be removed, or you’re being double charge because internet.
What he said makes sense though. No different than publishers making DVD/BD/Digital Copy packs, really. Or Google Play on an iPhone.
That said, still not convinced how Game Pass would feasibly work in many places on Switch (or any devices) if it were dependent on streaming.
Rare Replay on the Switch please???
Do it! Nintendo and M$ working together in any capacity is awesome.
How much does this cost? I just want to play Banjo! I’d be happy if they just release Rare Replay physically for Switch.
Sunset overdrive, rare replay
Awesome, now I can finally play Minecraft: Xbox One Edition on my Switch
@iLikeUrAttitude is that bad? For me it's super good because I don't have an Xbox and if the rumors are true then there are now many more games I can play
Yes please, I ‘m a Nintendo fan, but more options are always good
I used to have an XBox 360, but couldn’t financially continue the support as my money at the time as a teen/college man did not satisfy, so I stuck with Sony and Nintendo. It would be really neat to have XBox again but as a service and I get to play the games Id like, while Nintendo keeps making the hardware.
I don't use Game Pass on my One X, but if it came to Switch I'd definitely subscribe to it. That would be dope. Sign me up.
Having Rare games on Switch, even if is just the N64 ones, is something that many would like to see. Not to mention that both Microsoft and Nintendo both wins in the process and given how Nintendo is listening to the fans more and this interview reinforcing the rumours, I think Banjo can one of the remaining DLC fighter. Nintendo knows that he is one of the most voted characters in the Smash poll of Smash 4, which is the responsible for King K. Rool being in Smash Ultimate.
@EVIL-C No. This would hurt Nintendo.
No. They shouldn't do it!
Making the eShop compete with a service that another company created is bad for business.
Nintendo''s third party developers and indy developers would take quite a hit from this. If you can get 100+ XBOX One games for 10 bucks a month, then who is going to want to buy a $20 indy game again? I can't believe fans are willing to throw the Switch's third party support under the bus like this. All this damage isn't worth it just because of Cuphead or Banjo-Kazooie. C'mon people.
@SamusLv7 "both Microsoft and Nintendo both wins in the process?"
How? Nintendo & its developers lose money, less fans would buy actual Switch games. They would win?
"Nintendo knows that he is one of the most voted characters in the Smash poll of Smash 4, which is the responsible for King K. Rool being in Smash Ultimate."
False. King K. Rool is only a playable character in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate because he is what the roster had been severely lacking in: A superheavyweight.
@backup368 It's a service, it's not going to replace buying the actual games. Also with Xbox Game Pass as a service most of the games will probably not run very well either as they are just being play from the clouds. If they are not play from the clouds and required to be download then that means Nintendo allows it to happen thus Nintendo already got a cut of the profit for allowing the service to download their games to Nintendo's system anyways so in the end it's a three way win for everyone. A win for Switch consumers cause they got more game options to try, a win for Nintendo for allowing Microsoft to make this happen on their platform and a win for Microsoft cause now more people are trying their service.
@retro_player_22 Microsoft would be the only beneficiary from this. They get the money from consumers, the consumers would be playing their games, Nintendo would get pennies from subscriptions compared to dollars that they currently earn from each eShop game.
Consumers would see real value in the Game Pass. More time streaming games on the Game Pass means less time browsing, buying and playing actual Switch games. This could potentially change the spending habits of a lot of consumers, and this would put third party relations in jeopardy...again.
By the way, Microsoft is also looking to allow you to stream games on smartphones and tablets, so cloud gaming is definitely something they are striving for.
@backup368 It'll make the Switch more attractive to potential buyers. I think you fail to understand just how massive it would be to have Halo, Gears, Forza, Crackdown 3, Rare Replay, Killer Instinct, etc... Playable on Switch.
It's just another service and another option for people to have. It's still all rumoured, but this would be amazing to have on Switch.
Cuphead for Switch Phil! That's all I ask of you.
To really succeed this is going to require 5G so people can use it on the move.
@EVIL-C What's wrong with what the Switch has currently? I think you fail to understand that this would be completely counterproductive to Switch's momentum.
@Kainbrightside Because it's not Nintendo's service...
Alien Isolation just hit game pass. That’d be amazing to play on Switch.
@backup368 The Switch isn't powerful enough to run all games that PS4 and Xbox can, with this, the Switch should be able to run next gen games that it wouldn't have been able to, preventing it from getting left behind. People that want to play games portably or have poor internet connections/don't want to subscribe to a streaming service/have another console will still buy games from the eShop or retail. Nintendo would most likey be getting a decent cut of the subscription revenue, and if they require Nintendo Switch Online to use Xbox Live then it adds value to NSO and makes even more money for Nintnedo. Portability is still a big incentive to port games for 3rd parties. If it isn't feasible to port then it can be on game pass instead of not getting it at all, making Switch all around more accessible for devs. Switch exclusive games also will not be on Game Pass, so that shouldn't be a problem either.
@Paddle1 "The Switch isn't powerful enough to run all games that PS4 and Xbox can, with this, the Switch should be able to run next gen games that it wouldn't have been able to, preventing it from getting left behind."
You don't know what you are talking about. Nintendo would make loads more money if developers just ported their games to the Switch rather than becoming some second/third hand beneficiary. Power should hardly be a concern at this point, considering that you have games like Warframe and Doom.
"If it isn't feasible to port then it can be on game pass instead of not getting it at all, making Switch all around more accessible for devs. Switch exclusive games also will not be on Game Pass, so that shouldn't be a problem either."
You don't know how this works. Game Pass is for games that Microsoft already paid developers to have in their library. Square Enix already made a lump sum off of Shadow of the Tomb Raider. They don't make money for how often their titles are played or downloaded.
By the way, what your implying is that Microsoft wouldn't even have to develop their own portable console in order to make a fortune in the portable console business.
@Kainbrightside
"Trust me anything that ends up happening Nintendo will be getting a nice chunk of change."
They easily could make tons more money should fans simply continue to support their eShop offerings. There is no comparison.
I would love cuphead on the switch, but I don't want to end up breaking my device when I replay it
@backup368
My xXbonerXx came with two free months of Game Pass.
If I was a Nintendo Switch developer/publisher, I wouldn’t feel that I have anything to worry about.
@CurryPowderKeg79
Me too! Killer instinct and a Nintendo console is a match made in heaven lol.
And if that truly happends man its even free advertising for Microsoft.
When I first heard the rumours about this I was kind of excited about it but quite skeptical that it was simply BS.
With these latest comments though it does sound like there may just be something in it.
I did have an Xbox One S but sold it and bought a Ps4 Pro, my only regret was that I didn't get to play Forza horizon 4 so if this game pass helps me play that then I'm all for it.
If I'm honest I'd probably subscribe for a couple of months then cancel it when I'm done with Forza as none of the other Xbox exclusives interest me that much.
@backup368 Microsoft has said that being on Game Pass has actually increased the traditional sales of those titles on XB1 iirc. There's no reason to believe that wouldn't also be the case on Switch, especially when most of the titles would be streamed rather than ran natively.
The Switch can't run most of the current gen AAA titles. Doom and Warframe are the exception, not the rule. This will only get worse when the next gen arrives next year. Being able to have access to those games on Game Pass through streaming via xCloud is added value.
Nintendo would undoubtedly have negotiated a cut of Game Pass subs on Switch anyways.
Ultimately Game Pass and access to Microsoft's 1st party titles is another selling point for the Switch, which leads to increased hardware sales and therefore more people to buy native 3rd party ports and Nintendo's own 1st party software in addition to more NSO and Game Pass subs.
This would be streaming games right? Does it actually work well? I just can't imagine it being reliable.
@IceClimbers The XBOX Game Pass is what many people credit for saving the Xbox One, because many consumers have seen the Xbox One as an afterthought in favor of the PS4. It's good for Microsoft because it's not another company's service that is making money; it's their own. Microsoft is looking to piggyback off of Nintendo, while it addresses a problem that barely exists, and in turn, creates an even bigger problem.
If Project xCloud is also being worked on for smartphones, then all you need is just a compatible Xbox controller, and possibly an external battery. With that said, you won't need to even get a Switch to play Xbox one games portably. People will always seek the value, just like how it's more affordable to get the Game Pass, over paying for each game on the eShop.
@Kainbrightsidein Yes. We need to stream. On a portable console that already is dedicated to running video games.
@backup368 You're only focused on your negative speculation while ignoring the potential positive aspects of this deal. Your speculation is not fact, so please do not tell me I "don't know how this works". I'm not going to argue with someone who cannot get their point across respectfully.
@Paddle1 It doesn't make sense to make your own store have to compete on your own platform. That would be like Blockbuster stores selling you Netflix subscriptions. There is no positive speculation. Oh, except for "I want Cuphead, I want Cuphead". That's all that matters, right?
Good old Phil effectively conceding the console race there. There may be another "proper" Xbox console after this but then that will be it for Microsoft in the console hardware business.
Also Xbox / Microsoft have easily the worst collection of exclusives out of them, Nintendo and Playstation so I really don't think this is going to be as successful as Phil thinks it is. Plus it will have to involve streaming games which is not a way I will play a videogame, and I imagine many other people feel the same.
Dead in the water.
Microsoft never understood the console business.
I think the days of selling an XBox at a loss so people can buy it’s games are coming to an end. You’ll be able to buy their game pass and stream it via Switch and eventually Smart TV and Phone.
What I do suspect however is A: Don’t expect to take the top end games with you on the go without a strong internet connection, and B: The new XBox is going to be overpowered with a price point that matches it. If you want to play Halo or Gears in 16K and 600fps (inflated for comedy purposes), you have to buy a £700 XBox to do so.
You'd think after all the talk of this happening, something would have been said to poo poo all over it. The fact that these comments have only just been made makes me think we'll finally see something at E3.
This seems to confirm it, but let’s hold our horses a little while longer.
@Marth_is_cool it's a season pass. i'm sure it will be just streaming. Like RE7 on Switch.....
So...Microsoft is bringing their Virtual Console to switch?
As long as we get the Banjo Kazooie games, I'm in
Wow the idiots are out in force today with things like it's bad for Nintendo, they'll make less money, it'll divert attention away form the 1000's of indie games that most never buy and streaming is evil as are subscriptions whilst Microsoft have no games.
Well for a start Nintendo wouldn't allow it if they weren't making money from the deal. Let's face it outside of Nintendo exclusives no games sell in huge numbers on Switch so it's not going to take away from the 10,000 people who bought the latest indie game. Xbox has no games, well it does and it has quite a few very good exclusives in Gears of War, Forza Horizon, Halo, Sea of Thieves, Ori, Fable and Cuphead not to mention gamepass actually includes many 3rd party titles including Doom 2016 and the new Tomb Raider Trilogy oh and Hitman. Also for exclusives Microsoft has recently bought many notable studios including Obsidian so there is great potential right there.
Most importantly for us the gamer all this means is access to more games!!! Yeah terrible news am I right? Potentially playing Halo on the go or Rare's back catalogue such as Conker and Banjo Kazzoie (maybe even a Smash appearance), Perfect Dark, possibly Diddy Kong racing could reappear or whisper it Goldeneye (Nintendo was the sticking point when Microsoft remastered it in the first place).
For a console which doesn't have the best third party support, now is an opportunity to get possibly the best third party deal ever and all many can do is complain
@backup368 This is only going to help Nintendo, most third party's won't port to the Switch because it won't run their games. Yes Doom and Wolfenstein are a minor miracle of the ID tech engines scalability but look at the results on the TV compared to even the base Xbox and most games don't even have the benefit of being able to halve the framerate. Even the likes of Resident Evil 2 has poor performance on the base consoles as many now target the enhanced machines and are preparing for the next generation of consoles. Gamepass isn't going to compete with Nintendo's store but enhance it with more games, we can only speculate how Nintendo will be financially rewarded but I suspect it'll be more than the latest Indies selling a few thousand copies between them. Whilst if more buy a Switch because it has these extra games well Nintendo then have a bigger market to sell their own games to
Game Pass; the streaming service that allows you to play games you would otherwise pass on if they were full price...
@iLikeUrAttitude They messed up this generation by having extremely poor first party output and the absolute shambles at the start in which you would not own a game when you bought it to stop pre-owned sales. Then there was the issue with Freemium games. The first Forza on XBox One was a full price game but with no content and they were charging hundreds of pounds to unlock a car in the game. They just tried to milk gamers for all they had rather than care about the variety and quality of games on the console. They need to get more money from somewhere for their games division. I just want Rare Replay. There is not a single game on their console I want I can't play somewhere else. If they have that on Game Pass as well as some amazing original xbox exclusives like Panzer Dragoon Orta and Jet Set Radio Future and Ninja Gaiden Black, I would consider getting it. It is a shame this happened to Microsoft by going all "gung ho" as the original Xbox had so many incredible exclusives and they were a company really trying to push creativity, but they lost that creativity during the 360 generation.
I'm getting a weird feeling here. Similar to the one I got when the Grinch leak was bumping around the Smash community. Everyone started getting hyped for a leak that was "totally confirmed" and "couldn't be fake". We still have Smash players that are salty about it, because that let them hope for way too many characters, or that one character they absolutely wanted.
I'm hoping we're not having a repeat of that here, because we're pretty much hanging everything on someone's word, and some vague statements by Microsoft reps.
Very ver good. Can't wait for it to happen.
It will be interesting to see how these rumours play out, personally I can’t see streaming working in my part of the UK as I have lost count the amount of times I’ve lost connection playing Tetris 99!
I would rather see you being able to download the games, but can’t see that being a thing.
I would eagerly pay $10 a month for Xbox Game Pass portably on Switch.
As a Switch owner, no complaints from me and looking forward to knowing more. Looking at it from the Xbox business side, time will tell if it's genius or a straw that breaks the camel's back.
@Bunkerneath if I could give you more than one like, I would do it 😊
@carlos82 Thank you. I'm glad to see people with a rational thinking like you.
@backup368 Nothing. Again, it's an option. Giving users more options and making it more attractive to buyers is not counterintuitive. That's business 101: how to make your product appeal to the most number of people possibe.
Personally, I don't even believe this rumour is true, as Gamepass by default isn't a streaming service. it's just a cool idea.
@carlos82 It's totally not worth it. The fact that you're listing all those games gives people all the LESS reason to pay for another actual Switch game again. Port Tomb Raider to the Switch like every other developer has to. That is how Square would actually make money from it. They cannot make any more money than they already did by putting their title on Game Pass.
@backup368 nonsense, that's like saying people won't buy games for the Xbox just because they have gamepass which isn't the case. Many gamers have access to hundreds of games but they still always buy more. To make those Tomb Raider games run on Switch would likely involve rebuilding them from the ground up, the Switch hardware is significantly weaker than those consoles in every single area. That to me sounds like an expensive proposition and the likes of Square and whoever else wilp more than likely be paid again for their games to be on Xcloud and even if not most have some form of DLC they can sell anyway
@carlos82 It kinds of is. That is why this Game Pass was created in the first place, because sales for XBOX games were dropping. Tomb Raider games, at least the newer ones, anyway, are linear adventure games. The one from 2013 can be played on an Nvidia tablet.
@EVIL-C Well yeah, Burger King would appeal to more people if they outsourced Big Macs, but clearly they would never do that.
@backup368
They wouldn't do that, because they don't make big macs in the first place. You don't even know how outsourcing works. Just stop.
Also, electronics industry and food industry = apples and oranges.
Good day.
@EVIL-C Nintendo doesn't sell XBox games either.
@backup368 Sales for Xbox games are fine and the ratios are broadly similar to PS4, it's the consoles that are the issue for them coupled with PS4's strong first party lineup for the past couple of years. A game been linear makes no difference as to whether another console could run it and the first of the Tomb Raider Trilogy was built for the PS3 so it's hardly surprising it runs on a gaming tablet built nearly 10 years later
Oh and Burger King actually had a Big Mac menu recently 😂
Please, Nintendo: Don't do this!
This is one way profit for MS.
Ì don't know why Nintendo would need this.
The Switch eShop already has its own streaming service for games that would require a more powerful system (Resident Evil 7, Assassin's Creed Odyssey), and apparently it only makes sense for Japan right now because internet infrastructure sucks everywhere else.
Minecraft was a perfect fit, Hellblade looks great, and I would pick up Rare Replay on Switch in a heartbeat. But streaming games seems a bit too early for most countries.
It's great to see cross-play taking off. Maybe one day game consoles will be like DVD players, and it won't matter which one you own.
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