Nintendo of America Partners Up With Apex 2015 for Super Smash Bros. Tournament Event

I was looking forward to seeing PM :/

Oh well, in Ninty can make this Apex even better than the last ones I'll be happy without it.

I also was looking forward to Project M

That's Awesome!! Keep it up Nintendo!

Nobody here prefers new official games over a hack to make a game play similar to another game from over 10 years ago?

.. kay, guess I'm the only one. Gimme Smash 64, ACTUAL Melee, Brawl or Smash 4 over Project M any day of the week. Only good thing that came out of that hack, IMO, were the alternate outfits.

That aside, it's good to see Nintendo doing this kind of stuff more! Wonder if Nintendo of Europe will do something similar sometime.

@Tsurii897
Other than it being a fan mod, I think that one of the reasons they probably omitted Project M is because it was designed to make Brawl feel more like Melee, and if they actually have Melee, there's no reason to have it. Smash Bros. 4 also partly solves this issue of Brawl feeling different, (to me, at least) it feels like a hybrid of Brawl and Melee.

@Yosher I can understand why someone would want to play project M over Smash Brothers Brawl, but really people need to learn to move on.

Nintendo seems to be making steps in the right direction.

I'll be watching!

Those people. Those that want to keep playing melee.
You hardly see people playing competitive pokemon gold and silver these days

I really have to play in one of these sports some time...

This is a good step forward and a nice progression from all the past evo business, I wonder what this means for the future of Smash.

@ThomasBW84 "It may simply be that Nintendo is supplying equipment and prices for the main event"

Tom is this supposed to be prizes?

That's some pretty good news. I wish I could attend one of these.

@JasonAnArgoNOT64 That's because Game Freak actually expands and improves on the competitive aspect of Pokemon. Sakurai has made it clear that he doesn't care about that side of the Smash community, so people who preferred Melee have no choice but to stick with that game. You should actually try to understand why people still play that game competitively before criticizing them for it.

@Tsurii897 @Yosher I don't think you guys understand how important Project m is to the competitive community. It rebalances characters so that you don't just see spacies, marth, and sheik spammed like melee. Even the new game has a severly powerful diddy, and brawl was a mess with meta knight. While I really enjoy the new smash, Project M is undoubtly better suited for competitive play and its removal is rather disappointing.

@JasonAnArgoNOT64 That's because the Gold and Silver metagame isn't that much better (or worse) than following games (in terms of the meta game). Brawl had tripping and meta knight, and both brawl and sm4sh have decreased movement options and combos. Plus Melee is more faster and more fun to watch (imo). I love the new smash, but its not as suited for competitive imo.

And yet we still don't know when the new 3Ds is coming.come on,Reggie! :[

@Kasplat I think Project M has its unbalanced shenanigans going on as well. http://clashtournaments.com/project-m-3-02-final-tier-list/
I really doubt Project M is so favoured because of so-called 'rebalancing', but rather because people are so stuck on Melee's physics that they just can't adjust to the newer game's physics. Melee fans can be really annoying when they keep bashing the newer Smash games because of all kinds of stuff, like them being slower, lack of wavedashing and whatnot, and in my eyes, Project M is the basically by-product of all that bashing because it 'fixes' Brawl's issues, when in reality, they're just creating entirely new issues themselves, and some of the things they 'fixed' didn't even need fixing in the first place.

That, and they pretty much completely ignored the PAL players until recently when they announced they'd be bringing it to PAL regions. Only took them, like, 4 whole years. So yeah, sorry Project M, but you're far, far too late in my book. And I think Smash Bros 4 (at LEAST on Wii U) is just as competitively viable, if not moreso, than Project M.

I'm sure they'll bring the game back anyway, when Nintendo leaves the scene again.

@Tsurii897

While the players were definitely skilled, I'm inclined to believe that Items On and Final Destination only is not competitive. Just because Final Destination is a flat stage with no platforms, doesn't mean everyone is equally favored. In fact, Battlefield and Smashville are probably more fair than FD.

@Tsurii897 Items on is just terrible, a tournament is supposed to test players skills on a level playing field random dragoon drops completely undermine this.

I hope I join this tournament.

@Yosher also be fair. This was taken from the last version of PM, 3.0 they released 3.5 a while ago and it dealt with a lot of the over-poweredness of the top tier characters and buffed the bottom-tier characters

Hope they do this again next year but make sure Splatoon and KI Uprising are added.

@Trapleton PM was pretty much dropped.

Because its a mod :/

Shame, because its better than brawl in many ways.