Nintendo recently confirmed that the Wii U version of Super Smash Bros. will showcase 8-player battles, and the reaction from fans was predictably positive.
However, it's worth considering how will this addition will impact professional Smash tournaments. Could we see chaotic 8-player matches become the norm, or will they be relegated to the sidelines while one-on-one fights remain the major focus? Red Bull has been speaking to famous Smash players to find out.
Nairoby “Nairo” Quezada is in favour of 8-player matches, and sees it as a natural progression for the series:
There will be side events at some tournaments like some sort of crew battle. At KTAR [keitaro] will be hosting a 4v4 event and if it is successful, I'm sure he will continue to host more 4v4s or maybe a 3v3 event. An All-Star show match seems possible to do in the future so we'll see!
Swedish Smash player Adam “Armada” Lindgren is also in favour of larger fights:
I have always been leaning more towards teams rather than singles, so for me this sounds very cool. I think it will be a lot of fun to discover in terms of general strategy, tactics and so on.
Playing teams as we are used to now is 2v2. And already here you see some teams having a lot of synergy and understanding of how to play to benefit their team-mate and team as a whole. With four players in the same team, the interaction and a full game plan would become even more necessary. Having long discussions on what to do, when to do stuff and how to do it would become much more normal, and you already see this in Dota 2 for example.
In terms to make it possible to run all these kind of events I would say that events need to be even more efficient. We do see people like "Juggleguy" and "Crimson Blur" being extremely good with holding a schedule so I'm positive they would be able to pull it off.
The lone voice of dissent comes from Gonzalo “ZeRo” Barrios, who isn't convinced that 8-player bouts will be anything more than a distraction:
It will most likely not be used very often at all. Though, it'd be fun for me to have some use personally, since I have three other very good buddies I'd like to team with in this format.
Do you follow any professional Smash players or events? Do you think 8-player fights would be too difficult to watch, or are they the future of the franchise? Throw some punches in the comments section to let us know what you think.
[source redbull.com]
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Smashboards is also very warm to the idea of 4 vs. 4 tournaments, and they're like, the authority on this sort of thing. Looking forward to getting a guild together because I prefer team matches to singles
Expected.
4 vs 4 should be the main selling point for them.
I see this as a win. I mean the Royal Rumble type of matches where no one is safe is a great idea. At the same time I feel as though there would be a separate bracket for that 4 on 4 is good imo.
Early comparisons to MOBAs have me really excited on the posibilities, though more than definitely 1vs1 will still hold the main stage.
I love how the one person who decides to be pessimistic about including larger battles is subtly placed in a corner of shame. XD
1 on 1 ftw
Seems a bit excessive for single player - can even the worlds best fend off 7 other people ganging up on them? - but the team aspect is certainly interesting. Though I suppose 8 player could be interesting in the same vain as demolition derby, more entertainment than competition.
I doubt my home will see more than 4 players very often but I can still imagine 4x4 teams w/ the CPU fighters in use. So even if 8 player doesn't become a standard tourney fixture I still think it's an overall big addition for the game. And people w/ no friends but lots of money can battle alongside and against 7 amiibo at once
Can't wait to finally have a 4 on 4 battle! It's like the love that I had for this game in the N64 days' comming back! Is Black Friday here already?! I NEED this and Alpha Sapphire!!
I am very excited about this in theory, though I don't think I'll have the opportunity to try it. MOBAs don't seem like a good comparison at first since this isn't a strategy game with objectives, but on second thought, some stages do have bosses to fight over. I call jungle.
I'd love to do 4 v 4 matches. In fact, it was my first thought when 8-player was finally announced.
I didn't even think about 4v4 matches, and now I'm really excited to try it! I could see something like that in a tournament.
Hopefully it gets positive reviews by the pro gamers. It sucks when people are too cynical about something new.
I think 4 vs 4 will be very interesting to play and watch. Another way to test your hand eye coordination under pressure and maintain focus against mulitiple opponents at once. Let's see how the "pros" what handled this change of pace.
I don't think they're the future of the franchise but I do think it'll make more of an impact on events than the other features do. It'll definitely draw in a crowd. I just wonder if the new smash will have the same effect that Melee did, the same hectic fast-paced action that was somewhat lacking in Brawl.
Cool idea but i think it'll be hectic
I'm in the minority here. I think this is just an utterly chaotic party thing, but absolutely useless for competitive gameplay. The reason is simple: balancing characters towards this many simultaneous participants. And it's very obvious that this many fighters will very soon develop some horribly broken teams that'll be impossible to beat at all. Considering how the balancing for 1-on-1 is already subpar, these issues will only increase exponentially with the increasing amount of fighters.
Besides that, I think that Nintendo could've used the time and effort behind 8-player-smash in something better, like an Adventure Mode, distinct movesets for clones, or whatever. I see this mode as the kind of marketing ploy that ultimately fails to be anything but disorganized spamming.
Huh, thought they wouldn't allow this. Personally imma worried how this'll turn out (Did you see the 8 player videos? Uncontrolled chaos!)But if the tourney ppl can do something with this then like some sort of tag team or something like that then. Heh, bring on he chaos.
Watching 4 v 4 tournaments would be amazing imo.
"Tournament Players Pass Judgement On 8-Player Super Smash Bros."
Tournament Player: "Not enough like Melee."
Ah, but I jest. I'm looking forward to hectic 8-Player battles in Smash 4. I like how you can even encounter them in Classic Mode!
If 4 V 4 is too much for some people, I think 3 V 3 would be great. I hope this becomes a thing.
4 vs 4? Wow that's going to be chaotic.
It'd certainly be nice to see how it goes. If not 4v4, then 3v3 would be nice, at least. I can imagine it being pretty difficult to keep up with, thou-
Wait, KTAR's having a 4v4?! Have I been living under a rock?
As someone who eats tourney players for breakfast in smash bros, I honestly don't care what those try-hards think about anything. They strip Smash bros down to its core mechanics and utterly castrate the game of all of its insanity in favor of dumbing it down to the same levels as street fighter.
Of course ZeRo is against so many people on screen, how will he cheese his way to victory then?
@AugustusOxy Competitive Smash is just as fun as Casual Smash. Trust me, I play both ways. You're a casual, and you don't know what you're talking about. And just so you know, tourney players play with no items and hazard-less stages because they don't want anything distracting in the battle. They just want to focus on the "core" gameplay.
Also, why are you always so negative and harsh? It's pretty sad, actually.
I have grown to hate competitive Smash Bros after witnessing how it turns all my friends into wannabe tournament players who will only play all Fox, no items, Final Destination. They insist on draining every ounce of fun out of it. What's next? Competitive Mario Party? And don't even get me started on Project M.
Who cares about the last guy lol, it's a fun additional feature, doesn't have to be used, but it's there for those who want it.. Honestly I already know the people here on campus are going to be sore boring losers and not play 8-player simply because they HAVE TO PLAY 1V1 no items Final destination ONLY... No fun to be had here. Thank God I live at home and have lots of friends with 3DS and smash!
@ryanator008 Yeah, the people at my college made me almost not want to play Smash ever again... They made it SO FLIPPING NOT FUN. They talk all technical as if it's Street Fighter and just make it not a game about having a good time, but a life or death "I MUST WIN OR ELSE I WILL RAGE QUIT AND CUSS OUT THE GUY WHO BEAT ME!!!"... Its not fun at ALL..
I prefer SSB tourneys that Free for all, everything on. I come from the line of thinkers that embrace the chaos of SSB. 1v1's are cool, but I love SSB in it's full glory. And I'm just salivating at getting my chance to play 8P SSB.
Or have bigger map/stages and voila problem solved hahaha and yes chaotic.... zoom out stuff maybe while jumping will create some uneasy gameplay for others.
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