New Online Multiplayer Modes Revealed for Super Smash Bros. on 3DS and Wii U

I will be playing For Glory a lot as it goes toward my style.

Looks much better than brawl

So much better, and i love that new final destination!

Wait, so let me get this straight--are the Final Desination looking stages exclusive to online multiplayer, or can you also choose them locally?

A very, very limited set of options. Disappointing.

@Kodeen They said there will be some sort of matchmaking system in place so you can play with people similar to your skill level, but didn't talk about any details. They also announced some kind of ranking system, so I imagine it will have to do with that.

Probably 'for fun'. It sounds more fun.

im probably gonna play For Glory since i dont like playing with items and Final Destination is my fav stage

Wii U LAN adapter? Why Nintendo?

I bet those Final Destination variants will be available for offline. Probably purely for tourny players.

@Skeet102 Why what? It's optional.

For Fun and For Glory looks pretty fun! It reminds me of the online modes for Kid Icarus: Uprising.

I'm happy that online players aren't anonymous anymore Now You can tell the seasoned players apart from the novices :3

They forgot to mention that For Glory will only allow you to select Fox...

Bah, don't encourage the competitive types. Smash is about adapting to ever-changing conditions, not rigidly playing the same stage as single character until your fingers fall off.

Final Destination no items Fox only!

I going for Fun mode.

@KamenRiderClive http://img.pandawhale.com/82733-why-not-both-meme-5LvD.jpeg

@Funny_Moblin It's the principle of the thing.
I have a hard enough time convincing some people to play more than Final Destination, I don't need them whining "But that's how Nintendo says to play it!"

I'm gonna play lots of "For Fun" Mode.

@KamenRiderClive I understand. I have one friend who will rage quit if I have items on or I pick a stage that isn't Final Destination. It frustrates the heck out of me, needless to say I don't play with him much now... I pretty much wish they'd leave that in the past, let the tournament players whine with the older games, otherwise, why have Sakurai even bother designing items or stages?

1 vs. 1 Star Fox no items on For Glory confirmed.

I'm not really a competitive player; "For Fun" for me.

I am concerned about them making a point to recommend a wired connection. It goes without saying that wired is always better, but if they take the time to point it out, it makes me feel like the wireless will be too laggy to be playable. Unfortunately, my game systems are not set up where I can hook them up to an ethernet cable. I do have high speed wireless, so hopefully that will be enough...

@KamenRiderClive I feel ya, I have a friend who is like that. Even though I like both types of gameplay, removing any competitive play will just make our friends won't work. My friend always want to play Melee anyway.

Hmm, I'll try for glory but if its as cutthroat as melee than I might have to bust out fox instead of using my mains(sonic,dk, maybe Greninja)

Hmm, I'll try for glory but if its as cutthroat as melee than I might have to bust out fox instead of using my mains(sonic,dk, maybe Greninja)

The whole part about them recommending better connection options bothers me. They're setting it up like we're probably going to encounter similar lag issues to Brawl- so they're informing us of precautions to take to try to minimize these problems.

That's just what it comes off as to me. I would hope that in the years of experience Nintendo has had with online play now, we can have a relatively smooth online experience with this game. I would expect as much with Mario Kart 8 as well.

Besides all that I like the online setup for the most part. I'm not sure why they force you to only be on final destination for the "For Glory" mode. I'm all for having separate online modes, one for casual fun and one for competitive play, but shouldn't stage selection be up to the players regardless? I don't know it's a minor complaint.

For glory, I hate it when im playing serious and someone chooses isle delphino of some other interfering stadium..
Final destination is my kind of stage.

I'll be more of a "for fun" guy. I love the chaos of items and stage hazards!

Finally, I don't have to play JUST final destination anymore! Though I wish they put in Battlefield in the For Glory mode too, they're going in the right direction. YES.

I do enjoy my serious Final Destination battles, but a lot of time I feel like shaking it up and nobody is willing to do that. For Fun mode and For Glory mode are brilliant ways to tackle this!

I cant wait to play with ALL CHARACTERS, ALL ITEMS, ALL STAGES ONLY!

Good mode ideas. I'm going to play tons of for fun mode.

Love Final Destination, but sometimes I need more variety, so this is excellent!

@Skeet102 Because wireless can lag some connections.

Still don't like his whole "maybe this will work" demeanor when it comes to online. He was apologetic about Brawl before it's release too. This is worrisome.

Please tell me we can play random stock online matches this time. Sure, the lag is the biggest problem with Brawl's online, but a close second is how they restrict us to timed matches against random opponents.

What I don't like about the 2 game modes is that just because I want items doesn't mean I don't want a win/loss ratio. But that's only for the "hardcore" players who like only Final Destination.

@MrWalkieTalkie Me too! I can't imagine smash without items!

Did nobody play Kid Icarus online? Why are you doubting Sakurai here?

@Unca_Lz Or completely cut off for a very short period of time. Probably enough to get yourself Ko'ed though.

I like that there are variants of Final Destination. One of my biggest problems with the "FD, No items, Marth/Snake/MK" fetishists was the fact I had to stare at that same background and listen to the same five songs over and over and over! Up until they mentioned the FD variants I was almost ready to stick to For Fun mode entirely.

Hmm i hope my internet does not lag cause its wireless thats my concern, well i will wait and see.

Damn, Nintendo did everything right this Direct. They gave release windows, explained differences, new features, focused a lot on online play, and announced new GOOD characters.

Hype Train is in maximum overdrive. Can't wait to get my filthy hands on this 100% pure gaming experience. Cheers my fellow Nintendo fans.

@zoroarkrules25 Yes, in the mode "For Glory" you will be set with people that are around your skill level...... I'm guessing that will also be the case for the "For Fun" mode also.

@Emaan They were suggesting... I'm pretty sure that the connection will still be awesome, its just that for some people, their WiFi isn't the best. Like I used to have fast internet but slow WiFi, now I have fast WiFi and fast internet browser by switching to a different company. But I'm pretty sure it won't be laggy like in Brawl, that's one of the things they will be working on for the Wii U version.

@scenario
What the difference between no items and no stage damaging hazards? That sounds more like a perspective thing IMO.

Glad I have the lan adaptor, I hope it runs smoothly unlike Brawl.

Ok I really like the idea of playing this game seriously, but I'm still gonna go for "For Fun" most of the time. A lot of the charm of these games is how wacky things get with items and stage hazards all around, it really leads to unexpected and funny moments.

Does anyone know if, when we're playing with strangers, we will have any ability to customise the rules? Specifically will be able to have stock battles with strangers?

@Emaan My thoughts exactly when I heard Sakurai suggest using that cable, kind of worrying.

@SparkOfSpirit that's a good point, unfortunately it's not him I'm doubting but my wii u. I have all sorts of gaming devices that I use roughly the same difference from my router: the wii u is the only one that has any trouble whatsoever connecting to my wi-fi.

Glory is only half of the game and lacks the need to adapt for changing situations, which for me is the main point of the Smash as a fighter. I don't like, that there is no full mode, that keeps a record of losses.

Fun for glory!

I will be playing both modes! I am happy about the "For Glory" mode, as when I throw Smash Bros tournaments at my house, we love to have our cancellation matches on Final Destination, or a flat level map. This works out well and I am super stoked to try both!

No items in "For Glory" mode huh? I guess that's made for all those people whining about having to use items in a game that puts emphasis on using items!!!

What is it going to be next? A Mario Kart game without items? I know! Let's have CoD without perks and kill/point streak items. Just one basic simple weapon and side arm. That should be fun too!

@Varoennauraa Exactly! Smash is about chaotic fighting with items in an ever changing arena. To all today people that complaint on Brawl about having items making the game OPed for beginners, they should just go and play on a traditional fighting game like Mortal Kombat or Street Fighter.

I think those people just can't handle being beat by a novice player, lol.

I like playing both styles, but I get tired of the For Glory style more quickly.

I'll definitely be spending a lot of time in for fun mode, for glory doesn't seem like my sorta thing.

Are the same online modes confirmed for the 3DS version that are on the Wii U version? With the way Sakurai worded it, it was something like "you can play online with the 3DS too but you will need a stable connection, it separated the statements so it doesn't directly state the 3DS version will have For Fun/For Glory like the Wii U version.

On another note while I highly praise Smash not giving people who want to play Smash competitively the middle finger like Brawl did, Final Destination only is going a bit too far. Most stages that don't have the ability to damage or kill you are typically considered competitively fair by competitive players. I also don't really understand the purpose of hiding your online rank but encouraging people to gloat about their single player rank. I don't care if its visible as long as it works WELL and properly matches people to others of similar skill level, being able to see ranking would just help people see if that's happening. Relatively small complaints in relation to Glory Mode actually existing though.

@Senario Agreed.

@Senario
"Why shouldn't smash be allowed to have a competitive scene as well?"

Items and levels that require platforming skills are not in stopping Smash from having a competitive scene. Now it's actually the other way around. Now the people who like the whole game, don't get a competitive scene.

Good player wins even with random accidents.

" but that is only in massive skill disparities"
I don't believe that.

In my experience, somewhat better player wins somewhat worse player with sufficient certainty for tournaments, even with items on and in platforming levels. You need a lot of skill and strategic eye and fast brains to take the most out of the items, and also adapt into random uphill conditions as well as dodge the advantage that the enemy gets. The only problem I see, is having to play, say, two matches on the top of the tournament for making it more certain. At tops. Two absolutely similarly skilled players win each other randomly anyway, items only increase the aspects you have to master.

I don't have problems with having a game mode, that is stripped from random elements. I like that too. I only have problem with not having the glory mode for items and platforming levels as well.

This reminds me a lot of the Kid Icarus Uprising online, which I found to be very very good (especially on a handheld). Glad to see Sakurai remembering his other baby. I'll dabble around in both modes, but mostly For Fun, for me

@Senario

I always thought Melee was overrated. Sure, the crisp controls and lack of tripping make it a better competitive title, but the obsessive use of wave dashing, particular characters (Fox), and FD had me going for Brawl every time just because it was more fun/non-restrictive. These new For Fun/For Glory options seem like the best idea yet because it potentially provides both worlds in one package.

The Glory part i have a prob with due to the fact you'll be on a stale over used level. It was great in melee and brawl but now its the only one ? Make some new neutral levels man.. Then they don't record your loses on just for fun ? So there are no custom matches for friends where you don't have the limits of the previous game ? What about saving matches was that mention if so i didn't see it. I like that feature but once again not the limit stuff... That was a big let down.