Trainers hoping to see the entire Pokédex featured in the upcoming games Pokémon Scarlet and Violet might want to read on.
As highlighted by Serebii.net, it looks like players will only be able to add "specific" pocket monsters to these games via the Pokémon HOME app. This suggests "not all" Pokémon may be coded into the next Nintendo Switch entries.
While this news isn't particularly surprising, it may upset some trainers who were hoping to be able to "catch 'em all" to complete the National Pokédex. This would follow in the footsteps of Pokémon Sword and Shield which excluded the complete National Dex.
There are now around 900 pocket monsters on record as of 2022, which means Game Freak is likely to cherry-pick certain 'Mon more and more from here on out. Producer Junichi Masuda also previously mentioned how more Pokémon in games potentially presented issues when it came to battle balance.
How do you feel about not being able to catch 'em all? Leave a comment down below.
I mean…we kind of knew this would be the case going forward. If anyone was expecting otherwise, that’s their fault.
Not saying it’s bad to want it, but expecting it to happen after being explicitly told otherwise is just setting yourself up for disappointment.
It's okay for me.
I'm only interested with certain Pokemons, not every Pokemons.
At least put Sawk on it and I will be happy.
With starters reveal it's 908 species.
That's fine. PLA has a tiny pokedex and is one of the best games in the series.
I just want the game to be fun.
Here's an idea, let's say there's 1200 total pokemon, let Pokémon scarlet have 600 of them and the other 600 are in Violet. Make an actual good reason to get both versions
@Royalblues Why? Because they were able to do it from Gold and Silver to Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon, yet somehow can't do it anymore. Obviously not every Pokemon has to be catchable in this new region, however they could at least be transfered to the games through Home like what happened with the Pal Park or Poke Transfer.
Battle Balance excuse is a load of crock and you know it.
This is why my living pokedex is still sitting on my Ultra Moon cartridge. That game has 809 pokemon and it's on 3ds.
Doesn't bother me as long as though don't miss out classics like Bulbasaur this time
"Gotta import 'em all from HOME" doesn't have the same ring to it.
Well at least let every Pokemon that is programmed on Switch games (save for Legends:Arceus perhaps, it's set way in the past) come over. There's a decent amount of Pokemon between Sword/Shield & DP/BP.
With more returning Pokemon here hopefully. But I see lots of Psyducks in the trailer and stuff just feels like more of the same of what we already have. =/
@Royalblues "Let some regions have some Pokemon and some have others. It's not like you can find Polar bears in Hawaii in real life or something."
There's this feature in Pokemon known as 'trading', and can transfer across different regions.
The models and animations are higher quality than Sword and Shield's 3DS models, so I feel like the cut is actually understandable.
I don't care I just want a good fun game. This expecting all Pokèmon is total nonsense and nothing else. What's going to happen now? the Twitter guys are going to start coming out with their pitchforks again and stupid hashtags? 🙄
Uh oh, better prepare for the hate of the graphics too.
That's fine, my home is filled up with my Pokémon from bdsp and pla...
Wait, you mean they still didn't announce home support?
Oh boy here we go again.🙄
Did someone really expect that? Tbh I ok with not having around 1000 Pokemon in the game if they are at least done right (like in PLA)
Just hope there are a bit more Pokemon than in PLA, 242 Pokemon became a bit repetitive in PLA
I gave up for them to include all Pokemons since Sword and Shield. It is not necessary anymore.
I guess it's better to have quality over quantity, but as the highest grossing franchise, it really feels cheap, so I'm not sure they have a proper reason for not including a more complete Pokédex.
@Royalblues Well, it's "Gotta catch 'em all" isn't it?
And if you catch a polar bear Pokémon in a cold region and then travel to Hawaii, you still have your polar bear, don't you?
Are we going to get the whole whining about "#dexit" again for the next 8-9 months after which everyone will buy the game anyway?
Face it guys, there are just too many different Pokémon to put them all into one game.
Does this really come as a surprise to anyone. The last 4 Pokémon games on the Switch did not have all known Pokémon. In fact Pokémon Legends Arceus only had slightly over a quarter of the national dex. I expect to see the usual #gamefreaklied and #bringbacknationaldex nonsense again. Pokémon Home is the National Dex on Switch. Time to accept that no Pokémon game from now will have all 900+ Pokémon. They should include all of Gen 5 - Gen 7 Pokémon as all Gen 1 - 4 Pokémon are available in Pokémon BDSP and probably will be in PLA at some point.
I just don't want to keep paying for home to avoid my pokemon to get deleted. I want to move them to the games, but it is impossible.
As long as they have the ones that weren't in Sword and Shield then I'm alright with that. At this point I just want my original Black and White Emboar on my Switch 😅
What? It doesn't say that at all. Here is, what it says:
"Each game that can receive Pokemon via Pokemon HOME can receive only Pokemon that can be obtained in that particular game. To find out what Pokemon appear in Pokemon Scarlet and Pokemon Violet, please look forward to the release of those games."
This was a band aid that should have been ripped off since Gen 3. There are too many Pokémon to code at this point.
Not bothered by this at all! I am happy to catch new pokemon and form new teams.
Less Pokemon is worth it if we continue getting Legends Arceus-level mechanics applied to our own Pokemon in our team. I would love to ride on our own Pokemon like in Let's Go!
I keep saying this, but I believe Game Freak should take inspiration from Astral Chain and implement more overworld interaction.
Legends Arceus was a huge improvement, and I can only hope that they continue implementing more mechanics to utilize your own Pokemon in the environment.
@Aurumonado Exactly, it's on 3DS, it's easier to put them all in a 240p 3DS game than a Switch game.
Dexit didn't affect Sword and Shields sales (over 21 million copies sold!) so it likely won't impact Scarlet or Violet either.
Who even wants that.
@UltimateOtaku91 but then it would either be two separate game with no communication between them or just the same as all pokemon in the same game. Not possible anymore.
No new form for Meowth
Let it sink in. We hit 1000 Pokemon on the Pokédex and they never took advantage of that factor.
@Mitchtwd Meowth already had a new form.
@Devlind But, they want you to keep paying for Home…
my character is still at the shore in the beginning of アルセウス . i'm still translating the menu screen.
@ModdedInkling I mean, that's probably the reason why they've stuck with this since SwSh, its too many mons (though I understand it far more with this kind of game since it's apparently open world. SwSh were far more similar to the games before it that did have NatDex).
God, I feel bad for saying that, I really don't want to come off as an apologist. I've become the thing I swore to destroy! It's Anakin all over again...
They're never going to have all of them in one game again, but they should at least make sure everything still missing from the Switch era games is there.
Lol, judging by this comment section it sounds like Pokemon fans have completely lowered their standards and just started accepting and embracing the low quality, soul-less rush jobs that GameFreak puts out nowadays.
I guess it's the only way to enjoy modern Pokemon so I'm not surprised 🤷♂️
I just wish there's not much Kanto pokemon for once, they are like a parasitic invasive species with em showing in every regions.
Well, there goes all the hype I had. Almost, at least. There are actually two sides that could be torn on this.
One is the obvious group of certain Pokémon species' fans: I doubt that, say, @Anti-Matter would take kindly to not having Sawk in the game.
The other is the very same competitive space Masuda's delusion implies will be happy. Unless someone manages to somehow base his or her team on the usual regulars (show some guts, Game Freak: cut out PIkachu for a change), having to recreate one's own party and level each critter to level 100 looks less like a game and more like a chore. Fortnite's seasonal weapon rotation gets a pass because the game was BORN that way; not so much a franchise that only burned the bridge between gen II and gen III before changing its ways.
The only side that remains is the rest of the fandom, liking Pokémon for the sake of it, well, being Pokémon. But there's only so many times your favourite critter doesn't make the cut that will have you say "Yes, please".
Eh, don't really mind. Shield was the first game since Diamond that I actually wanted to complete the dex. Also, its not Pokemon, but SMT V didn't have nearly the amount of demons that were in SMT IV or IV Apocalypse, but I enjoyed that more.
I don't care that much. Gen 9 can be garbage if needs be, I just want them to take some time and really make gen 10 amazing.
@sanderev yeah thought they were gonna keep up the trend with new forms every new region haha
@Mitchtwd they do, but not for the same Pokemon. (at least not usually)
Seviper is in the trailer, so maybe all the Zangoose fans out there can rejoice?
There are other Zangoose fans out there, right?
@Royalblues In the older games, the inclusion of the natdex was a post-game reward. Some of us like having more content to do after we knock out the Champion.
It also devalues your collection when you know your shiny mons might not be compatible with future entries. Part of the fun of older Pokemon is knowing that if you choose to, you can bring your pokemon from one gen to the next.
@Aurumonado USUM kinda feels like the final game in the mainline series. It's the last game to include a complete Pokemon experience. I personally prefer Legends Arceus, but I'll admit it still feels like a very low budget experience.
It does amuse me their slogan is "gotta catch em all" when you can't even do that.
@Royalblues Having them being native to the Region and having them be usable at all are completely different. You could still use the polar bear Pokémon in the Hawaii Region. Maybe don't tell people to 'grow up' when you've only done so physically.
@Royalblues People just want them available to transfer. Not get them all in one region.
Not surprising. They already said this when they decided the last gen wasn't going to have them all. Gotta catch 'em some.
I expect the next game to be a "Pokemon Ultimate" Where everyone is here. Mechanics refined to perfection. 1000 mons and then, wishful thinking, the series could take a break for a while.
I'm never going to let it go that they drilled "gotta catch 'em all" so far into my toddler brain that it's probably a significant contributor to my crippling perfectionism, and then made it increasingly impossible to catch them all thoughout the whole series.
Look it was going to happen, didn’t think it wouldn’t. But could we please, please get rid of trade evos, it stops me from getting Pokémon I like without evolving, and luckily I can trade with someone on here,
But it’s just so annoying, and it gets worst when you notice all the popular Pokémon need to be evolved. There not going to change this ether, but my god I want it gone so much.
@Royalblues I think no one expect to be able to catch all in one game. But what people want is to have the option to use Pokémon home to transfer all their Pokémon to the new games.
But since the new games don’t allow this some people are getting disappointed.
I think it’s a shame that no new games have support for all Pokémon anymore. But the fact that the Pokémon company is releasing so many games these days makes me care less about that.
Who cares about catching them all when they are pumping these out faster than Activison in its heyday.
Can you imagine how exhausting is would be to research all 800+ Pokemon in Legend's?
I'm fine with them restricting the dex to 300 per game and adding more through DLC as time goes on
Like the Beartic I have in Pokémon Moon and Ultra Sun, to the annoyance of absolutely nobody?
I sorta get the point there, but asking for realistic zoology in this franchise just reeks of making up excuses to justify everything the brand gets away with. And there's no point in playing devil's advocate here.
Unless, of course, you're willing to justify taking characters away only to make them selling points a few generations later, too. And if that's the case... don't. Really, there's nothing in it for you.
Ugh, finally someone who gets it!
This will not put a dent in the sales. My favourite might not make the pick, and I still may purchase it
I mean not everyone here a Pokemon fan.
I'm not a die hard fan of Pokemon, just have some interest with them but i will open with the changes from Pokemon Scarlet / Violet.
Doesn’t bother me at all. I don’t remember anything past the original 151 so every new entry I go in with fresh eyes.
@Royalblues 1.) If pointing out the flaws in your 'logic' is moving the goalpost, then you definitely need to take your own advice and 'grow up' more than most people here.
2.) The complaints never end for Pokémon or anything - that's the nature of people who are passionate about things or just don't like them.
3.) Each Pokémon only has 4 or so animations period, most of them are re-used from previous games, and most of them don't equate to more than a 3 second pose. Trash argument.
4.) You should get a polished product from GameFreak - there's no reason the people in charge of the World's Biggest IP should have as few game devs as they do, let alone having them split up for 2 different projects at a time. Either hire more people or tell TPC they can't do a game every year.
5.) Again, there's no reason you shouldn't be able to get them post-game like in Sun & Moon via Bank or Black & White via transfer. If your argument if that things should make sense for the Region, they introduced a cactus, monkeys, a sarcophagus, & zebra in the one based off New York.
6.) You get neither quality or quantity - you yourself just said earlier not to expect polish from GameFreak, so what even is this 'argument'?
7.) Gens 5-7 had all the Pokémon, just not catchable. All games have been that way since Gen 3, so again, factually wrong.
@AlexSora89 My favorite realistic zoology is the lion that casually lives in the Region based on France. Or the koala we all know is only found in Hawaii - same with the zebra in New York.
But moths like Venomoth are obviously extremely rare creatures in our world, so it makes sense they're only found in Kanto & Johto.
@UltimateOtaku91 Now that's the smartest idea yet!
Yes! Personally I'd prefer to catch only new pokes up until after beating the game/elite/champ. I hate running into 100s of old pokes when I'm in it for discovering the new content. Waste of time.
Precisely, asking for scientific accuracy in these games is idiotic.
it's literally a game for 7 year olds
As lonh longbas it adds the 20 orbso pokemon only obtainable on 3Ds titles, currently, I'm fine
Arceus proved 250 is the right number.
@Royalblues While I do agree with your opinion, I think the main reason people reacted to your comment negatively is because you told people to grow up simply because they don't think the same way you do. Of course some overreacted and attacked you personally, but you did provoke a little bit.
Of course you can’t, that was never a possibility.
Please tell me people already you’re this
I just want toadadile.
Disappointing. I'd rather wait 5 years for a pokemon game that actually let's us catch em all.
The tagline for the series, "Gotta Catch 'Em All" and the ability to carry your collection forward had been a staple of the series for nearly two decades. I have Pokemon that are old enough to legally drink. For many of us, this was a huge draw to the series. Knowing that all of the Mon I had captured, bred, and raised would be usable in future titles was the biggest draw for me.
I am fully aware that the series just isn't for me anymore. It's disappointing - I purchased Pokemon Blue on launch day as a 12 year old with lunch money I'd saved. I had played every mainline game up through USUM. The games coming out in recent years are decidedly different. It would seem a lot of people still enjoy them, so I'm happy for that. But they don't pull me in like they used to and it's been years since I bothered purchasing a Pokemon game. I used to take a week off work when a new game came out.
It is fine for different people to like different things, but I think your opinion that people should "grow up" because they miss a feature that was present for nearly two decades is a bit of a hot take.
Yeah I really doubt if Legends 2 years after Sword/Shield only had 240 Pokemon with new models/animations that they're going to have ~800 more ready 10 months later.
It's an impossible task anyway. The idea that anyone or company must endlessly do more and more work each project is blatantly unsustainable in the long run.
I'd no more expect GF to support what's soon to be 1000+ monsters in every game than I'd expect myself to keep up with work every day if my new workload got bigger and bigger each day.
There's a breaking point.
That's the weird thing - Back in the USUM days, they had stated that they had worked on a project to bring all of the Pokemon into HD texture territory for use in future games. You don't have to re-make Pikachu from scratch for all of these Switch games - Pikachu is Pikachu. For a game series like this they should be building a big asset library and then modifying things slightly for each new game.
There are a number of reasons you might want to limit the Pokedex, but "there's too many Pokemon to code/art" is the most BS answer ever, especially when the games sell so well.
An ingame reason I just thought of: The left out Pome went extinct at one point or another
sigh Game Freak falls right off the wagon before both feet even left terra firma.
@Royalblues or maybe you should do some growing up. Let's begin! Step 1: Before speaking in such absolutes, ask yourself "Is there any possibly other reasons I'm not thinking of bc it doesn't immediately apply to my wants? Let me spend an actual moment thinking about it before immediately saying nah, zero reasons" Some of us, like me, play for the dex. I love catching them and awaiting that moment an interesting, world building tidbit comes forth. It isn't unreasonable to know those exist and want them inside the game they belong to. Not everyone plays for competitive or even story reasons. In fact that's supposed to be the essence of Pokemon; different trainers for different reasons. If people were calling for boycotts or gods forbid, violence (it's a gaming fandom; I could see it), your response would be right. But as is? People are just disappointed; and it's understandable. If not understandable to you, again remember not everyone is you, so naturally what satisfies for you wouldn't for others.
Finally, this is just a money making gimmick. When the series first began perhaps I could see it; but a singular Pokemon entry can stand on its own two legs as we've seen. So we should never settle for a company intentionally watering down their product to try to get you to purchase a near identical copy, OR have friends who play (not around here, and definitely not for someone in a bed ridden condition) OR go seeking strangers online to help you complete the game. May be super strange I know, but not all of us enjoy having to involve other players to play our single player experience. If I wanna share something w other gamers I'll play Smash or similar. When I want to play a single player game, I REALLY don't want a shameless money grab forcing me to go HEY CAN SOMEONE HELP ME EVOLVE THIS GODDAMN KADABRA???)
In short, there's lots of reasons for people to be disappointed. If you're not, rejoice! You dodged a gaming disappointment. Nothing more/less.
@UltimateOtaku91 You best be trolling.
@Dizavid Nonsense, only a tiny minority of players care about being able to catch a thousand Pokémon in the same game. It would be nice, in theory, but it's just unfeasible. Whether these games are good or not will have nothing to do with how many Pokémon they have. Most Pokémon games only give you access to a small subset of them anyways during the main campaign, mainly focusing on the newer ones.
@ggnorekthx But it is not simply a matter of having the assets ready. They also need to place them in the world in a place that makes sense, and give them the full support that every other Pokémon needs, test that they look at least passable walking around this new environment, etc. There might not even be appropriate space in the world for a thousand different Pokemon. You need some spacing, you don't just place them randomly in the world and call it a day. If the games still had random battles, it would be easier to include more.
Also, on the asset side of things, while they do have a library of Mons they can reuse, they still touch them up for every game so that it fits the art style and such, look at the difference in shaders between this and BD/SP for instance.
Let's be honest here, you won't get a complete Pokedex in a base Pokemon game again because they have to sell DLC to players and dangling Pokemon that can only be found in these expansions is a pretty big carrot.
On top of which, this increases the value of the Gen V remakes that will likely arrive in a few years.
From what I have read, most of the missing Pokemon families in Gen V IIII are from Gen V and VI.
Guess what two gens are next on the remake block?
It's all about squeezing as much money out of the Pokemon brand as possible.
Just because we can't transfer Pokemon from one series to SV or vice versa does not mean we cannot catch every Pokemon to fill out the Pokedex.
I'm laughing at the "tiny" pokedex of PLA, with a mere 241 'mon, and discussions about whether or not it's adequate. 150 was plenty and to spare in my day.
Seems like the bottom line by now that National Dex is best completed in Sun/Moon and their respective "Ultras". Only helps that Bank is going free now, which should help not only use it actively for the time being but potentially pave the way for having it run on CFWs (unless it already does😆) if/when it's eventually given up on.
@Royalblues You couldn't catch a polar bear in Hawaii. You could transfer a polar bear from a previous game and use it in the new game
I mean this shouldn't be a shocker. This is Gamefreak, and Gamefreak would rather be deceitful and scummy rather than just be up front about what they're doing.
They're going to do EXACTLY what they did for Sword and Shield. They're going to give a horrible excuse as to why every pokemon can't be in the game, and then sell the Pokemon back into availability with DLC. But they won't tell players up front, because that would mean they'd admit to lying and intentionally gating Pokemon behind a paywall.
Just think about it for a second. Gamefreak "couldn't fit" or make the "high fidelity models" for the majority of Pokemon in Sw/Sh...yet they all magically found their way back with paid DLC. And now you're telling me that the next gen Pokemon game...using the same technology, on the same hardware, with the same graphical fidelity and animation, won't be able to fit all of the Pokemon up till now plus the 50 or so they'll add with this one? Mmmmmm yea a 3rd grader could tell you that doesn't add up.
It's a bummer, and i don't believe the "Gameplay balance"-excuse for a second, but it's to be expected by now, isn't it?
They got away with it with SwSh, so why not repeat it? They can sell part of the missing pokemon back to us with DLC again, as well, who said GameFreak doesn't learn from their previous games?
Why not just have a blank slate and come up with 150 new Pokémon and leave out all the old ones? This would require less balancing work and leave more time to work on battle animations. It would also put a stop to all ‘but you didn’t include my favourite’ whining from a minority of fans.
I thought all the new mon in S/S were really good but there were too many old faces for me to bother with them.
@RadioHedgeFund Personally I'd love this. Take the Black and White approach.
@Royalblues Totally agree!
I mean... the anime series and movies always showed you that many Pokemon were restricted/living in specific regions only.
Like one of the series, where people were shocked to finally see the first Pikachu in their lives, when Ash arrived.
It was much easier for Gamefreak in the earlier games when there were only 200-400 Pokemon in the dex, but people continuously want new and unique Pokemon for each new generation of games, so the Dex has now grown to over 900 Pokemon, making it unrealistic to keep all Pokemon in the game.
This also adds problems to the game itself, since the size of the game world is limited. So the more Pokemon are in the game, the harder it will be to encounter the Pokemon you want to catch. Since only so many Pokemon can spawn at any given time. Even with Day/Night cycles.
It was nearly impossible to catch them all even when they were only 151 of them and you needed150. I knew every mon by name back then. Complete Pokedex was a really hard target for only for 1% of the players. Now for purists that really want to catch em all game freak should make such a game where you will be able to catch all 900 Pokemon after a real long journey
@Royalblues This is also a silly defense when you remember that they still release two versions of the same game, in the same region, with different Pokemon in each version.
If Pokemon are unique to a region, why are they also unique to a version of the game?
Nowadays i would love to see a Pokémon home compatible Pokémon stadium.
While before it wasnt considered something that was needed due to a lot of what it could offer was available in the games however due to having every pokemon in each game wouldn't be viable, having a seperate game dedicated to battling allowing players to pick from their favorite pokemon they have trained over the course of several games would be nice.
„It's not like you can find Polar bears in Hawaii“
You obviously haven’t seen Lost.
@Richnj That is to encourage trading among players, but also for those that don't want to trade to make them buy both copies of the game.
So that is really simple and not a silly defense whatsoever, since all the Mainline Pokemon games released as two versions. So is nothing new.
900+ Pokemon in a single game is simply too much. You also have to incorporate different genders as well, as people might want to catch a specific gender as well (for breeding, aestic or other reasons). So, taking in account some gender neutral Pokemon, you still looking at roughly 1500 unique Pokemon spawns. Then add different rarities of specific Pokemon. Not to mention the shiny variants!
The game world is simply not big enough to make that an enjoyable experience.
It would ruin the game experience for the majority of players.
@Royalblues The issue is that we will be once again limited to certain pokemon / moves, which negatively affects the competitive scene. Of course not all pokemon should be present in a region. That's why a regional pokedex existed. But limiting the replayability of the game due to "balance difficulties" just seems lazy to me.
@OceanMon They made a lot more Pokemon available later on in Pokemon/Sword Shield, that could be transfered into the game via Pokemon Home.
So in Pokemon Sword/Shield you can already use a lot more Pokemon in the game now, than that are catchable.
Same will be the case with the upcoming games.
@Jeronan True, but on that note it strikes me as a reason for people to purchase DLC. If that is true, it's pretty scummy.
@OceanMon Nope. Only the new areas were locked behind DLC.
The extra Pokemon were made available for free to everyone.
@Jeronan I was wrong
@Jeronan It is not to encourage trading. It is purely to make people buy two copies.
If they wanted to give players access to different Pokemon they could have each version be a different region, or include both versions on one game, and either have an RNG start up to determine which version or just allow players to choose.
No other games makes you buy two copies to catch all the monsters.
And again, yes it is silly, because it makes a Pokemon not available in a region that they should technically be available in, if you bought the wrong copy. That completely undermines the idea that each region has its own catachable Pokemon.
And it's even sillier that people will buy the same game in a slightly different variant and say "this makes sense". It would just be easier if buyers just admitted that it's a scummy Nintendo practice and that the whole region defense is just a post hoc justification.
@VoidofLight youre talking about a multi billion dollar company 🙄 not an indie company
@Richnj Again, since the very first Pokemon game, there have been two versions.
This has always been this way. Yes we can call it scummy to encourage people to buy two copies of the game, if they know no one to trade with it.
I always buy the two different versions, give the version my son want to play with and I play the other version and we trade together. Never been an issue.
But this is nothing new and has nothing to do with the Switch games nor that Gamefreak doesn't add all 900+ Pokemon to their games.
@Jeronan Just because it has always been this way doesn't make it right.
But if that's the way you want to go with this, then it has always been possible to carry forward your pokemon and catch them all in previous versions. You can't say that one historical thing is good because it is the historical reality, and that the other historical thing isn't good because it's not the reality anymore. Pick one.
Again, the issue is that this is a post hoc justification.
If you want to argue that giving people different versions is good because it encourages trading, well again, you should be in favour of different games having different regions or a randomly selected preset that determines availability.
If you are arguing that each region should have its own Pokemon, then why are you in favour of a two version system that locks Pokemon out of certain versions?.
And if you want to argue that it's costly and bad game design to have 900 Pokemon in a game, then OK, but that's not an argument in favour of regions.
And if you want to argue what was historically true, then you should be in favour of cross gen trades. But in this case you aren't.
Just admit you just want whatever it is Nintendo is doing, and uncritically so. Rather than try to provide incompatible arguments in favour of it, to try to dismiss the people who are providing criticisms.
But Spoink's gonna be there, right? I'm planning a team of forehead-slapping pokemon names, and I need Spoink to join Quaxly.
I think the point some people don't get is that it was never a case of ''Catch all Pokémon'', but rather giving the player the option to use their favorite Pokémon.
I've had a Serperior since Pokémon White and it's one of my favorite Pokémon, I brought it with me in Pokémon X and Ultra Moon on the 3DS but now it has to be stuck in Pokémon Home as there isn't a Switch game that supports it. and so I can't use it.
Since the 3DS, one of the most magical things about Pokémon has been giving you the option to bond with your Pokémon and being able to keep them in the next generation, on the next console, in Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire on the 3DS that they even reward you. with a nice homage if you bring in a Pokemon that came from the GBA's original Ruby and Sapphire, that unfortunately got lost on the Switch.
@RadioHedgeFund if a Pokémon game feature only the new generation Pokémon that is debut, everyone will be upset Game Freak is not adding his/her favorite pokémon, Pokémon Black e White recieved a lot of backlash for featuring old pokemon only on the postgame.
1. Whether or not Pokemon get new animations will depend on what Game Freak wants or tries to do for a given project. This argument is just as garbage.
2. Game Freak is not in charge of the franchise. The Pokemon Company is. The handle everything from the promotion to how much money to throw around to promote the brand or their products. Game Freak doesn't even have control over how much funding or time they get for the games they make at this point. Your argument is based in ignorance.
3. As an addendum to the previous point: TPC holds the moneybag for the franchise and thus how much of the profits goes to Game Freak.
4. Quality over quantity is what they are arguing for cause clearly as the Pokedex continues to grow, the feature creep will balloon depending on the what GF wants to do with any given project, making the addition of all Pokemon less feasible depending on what they decided the project demand for their project goals.
disapointing but expected, with 1.000 pokémon reaching, it would be very dificult to add all pokémon in gen 9
@Piritiup I know! I bet you don’t understand though that practicality matters most when making a game! It isn’t practical to have 1,000 species of pokemon within one singular game, given the fact that Gamefreak works on a strict time limit, and the fact that it bloats the game’s code. Not to mention how they’d have to change the models for over 1,000 different pokemon and their forms!
Well that was pretty obvious. It's just sad how a modder can do things that a billion dollar company can't. It's really not impossible to have all the pokemon in a single game. But whatever, there's always Pokemon Showdown if I want to try out a team with pokemon from different versions. I like to make mono type teams, but without all pokemon at my disposal I can't make my dream teams.
Look! What a surprise...
If they added more than 500 Pokémon for the Pokedex, the focus on other things and more importantly, new Pokemon would diminish. That's one of the things I loved from Black and White and their sequels.
However, the bigger the games get, the more land you'll explore, the more Pokémon could be avaliable right? Then it'll be an interesting comparison with Sword and Shield.
Nope. Absolutely hate the idea of having to catch 900 Pokemon. To people crying about how it's a break from the earlier games.. a 2d sprite took up waaaay less resources. And even then by the time games were on the GBA the carts had increased in storage. Heck look at the map in the GBC game that you could go back to Kanto for kinda a 'second quest'. That kind of extra would be an entire DLC these days, the world isn't just 8bit maps.
Plus.. who the heck has TIME to catch 900 Pokemon?
Anyone who says this is a ploy to make more money by TPC and Gamefreak clearly knows nothing about the time, effort and money it takes to make these models and animations. Do you want the full dex or a good game? This game will likely take the total to 1000 mons or more. Making models and animations for each will seriously cut into the amount of resources that are available for actual game play stuff. I for one am glad that I won’t have to catch 900+ to complete my dex. If that means some of my favorites are left out oh well there are plenty of other to choose from.
I would be perfectly fine with not having all Pokemon in the main series games. Honestly Game Freak, HAVE SOMEONE ELSE MAKE A GAME THAT'S LIKE STADIUM OR BATTLE REVOLUTION THAT CAN LET YOU PUT EVERYONE IN! World and story can be scrapped and just focus on only the battles!
I want to have all my Pokemon that I've accumulated since Gen 3 in a single game and not stuck in Pokemon Bank.
This is a really great point. I was thinking about this the other day. Some of my absolute favorite Pokemon are now going to be either not available, or intermittently available in the upcoming generations of Pokemon. Prior to SwSh, I had a Jolteon, a Lapras, and a Vespiquen that followed me everywhere. A few of my other favorites are really niche Mon that are not supported on the Switch. This has broken 20 years of precedent and really soured my relationship with the series.
I have purchased additional copies of USUM and kept them sealed because I think the value of the 3DS games will skyrocket eventually as the last "true" Pokemon games.
@Royalblues This....is a video game you know. A video game. As in, not real life. You don't see polar bears contained in small balls in real life either.
Ehhh, onto better RPGs for me. Pokemon just doesn't make the cut anymore.
@Royalblues I can accept that new pokemon
games will be incomplete and stale. But as a consumer, I shall complain about it. Because the large corporations with millions and millions of dollars do indeed have the money to make the product better.
I actually don't mind this. I find catching a quarter million pokemon every year a bit of a daunting task to be honest. I see why people want the option, but I feel like if there's not some kind of lock to the regional dex I'll never bother to appreciate new designs.
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