Last week's Nintendo Direct broadcast had a few neat surprises for fans, but the biggest shock of all was the revelation that Final Fantasy VII's protagonist Cloud Strife is joining the roster of Super Smash Bros. on Wii U and 3DS.
The trailer showed plenty of footage of the new fighter in action, and unsurprisingly someone has pulled the video apart to construct an analysis of Cloud's probable moveset.
This should by no means be considered complete, but it's pretty comprehensive all the same - and should give you an idea of how the character will handle when he's eventually added to the game.
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Points for the Baby D song reference.
I'm rather interested in how the Limit Break system for Cloud will work, guessing it'll be like Little Mac's K.O. punch gauge. While the moveset looks neat I must admit a bit of a sword fatigue on my part now (but not enough to turn down a Golden Sun character if one gets included later.)
MasterOfHyrule is an absolute beast when it comes to analyzing Smash, rivaled only by GameXplain. Check out his videos, this is the tip of the iceberg.
@EllenJMiller Don't get people who say they suffer from 'sword fatigue'. There's like 8-10 characters who use swords out of 50-odd characters in total.
I guess it's just the popular thing to say.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-PtKZCjkQo&t=46s
GimR's analysis, which I'd recommend over this video personally.
I still just want to know if a Nintendo console will get a FF7 port or not.
@AlexSora89 GameExplain really messed up Cloud's analysis though.
@Mogster Some of it is the belief that Fire Emblem is overrepresented (especially with Lucina not being an alt. costume and then Roy's return later), and that more or less leaked into anime-styled swordsmen in general in the roster.
How come no one mentions that most of Cloud's movement and attacks are lifted straight out of the Dissidia games? I'm starting to feel crazy because no one sees it, but me :I
@Uzuki -
Anyway, I've been talking on Serenes about this and seen the frames of the moves. We wonder how useful most of them are and they aren't looking too good, but not bad, but we don't know any grabs or true combos. So far, it looks like a bit of a bag of Ike with DK and Megaman, but for Cloud to be completely different from Ike, the N-Air would need to have different use apart from N-Air to Air Combos.
Another debate is if Cloud's Dtilt can go under needles.
Upon download of Cloud, the game's title will change to Super Sword Bros.
@Uzuki Presumably because a lot of us are Nintendo fans, who would sooner buy a 3DS rather than a PSP, even with Dissidia.
So excited! I love FF. Cant wait to see what new characters get announced! Surely I'm not the only one who is hoping for Isaac, right? K. Cool would be awesome too...
@Franklin
Oh yeah, cause we totally don't have enough fist fighters....
@Crimzonlogic When Reggie said "I smell a new trailer coming" or whatever, and the FF7 theme played, I seriously thought that we were getting a FF7 remake. Then that ugly Smash logo popped up. I'm excited for Cloud in Smash, but a FF7 remake would have been infintely cooler. But it's unlikely that it'll ever get a remake, and if it did, it wouldn't be on a Nintendo console.
If only I could play this guy's game as a Nintendo fan. I'm going to end up getting the game on my wife's iPad 2 soon if there is no word on FF7 coming to a Nintendo console soon. I hope it runs ok.
@Mogster
Agreed.
@Fazermint
It is getting a remake on ps4! You didn't know? Here's the trailer they played at e3:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Kznek1uNVsg
This game is the reason why i wil be getting a ps4 next year, haha!
@J-Manix98 I thought they canceled that already. I guess I confused it with when they canceled the PS3 remake.
@Fazermint
Nope! It's happening probably not for the next two years (FFVII 20th Anniversary), but it is happening!
As far as I know, the ps3 trailer was just a tech demo, to show off what the system was capable of back when it released in 2006. (Correct me if that date is wrong)
Btw just saying that I think clouds limit break could work similar to little Mac's knock out gauge. Where after a while of fight Cloud builds up his limit meter slowly then when it reach's full he uses it for like a 10 second boost in all areas. Just my thought though
Also the fist fighters definitly outnumber the sword fighters by a ton. Plus Cloud will be the only one with a giant blade. Well except Ike's, but common cloud sword triples his.
@LinkSword
DAYUM. That analysis was deep!
@TeeJay
Haven't seen it yet. What did they screw up?
Also bring final Fantasy games to the 3ds and Wii U virtual console.japan has final Fantasy 1-3 on 3ds and Wii U Also 1 was on Wii vc in NA.
@andrew20 NA Wii VC has FF for NES and FFII(IV), FFIII(VI), FFMQ, Secret of Mana and Chrono Trigger for SNES, WiiWare had two spin-offs and the sequel to FFIV.
@AlienX yes but 1,2,and 3 are NES games with English translation but 2 was never released and 3 has no translation in the NES version.Unless they do the mother 1 thing the 3ds will get 1 and maybe the GB ones.The Wii u should have them all by now I hope this will push them on there.I also hope for fire emblem NES games come over here.
Looks like a solid character with an interesting yet simple gimmick.
I'm just disappointed they couldn't come up with a better Final Smash than just using Ike's/Robin's/Greninja's again.
@Whopper744 If I can ask, why not get a PSP and download FF VII off the Playstation network? If you're worried about the version running badly, I can tell you that the PSone Classics version of FF VII works perfectly on the PSP, and you can pick up the system pretty cheap used(about 40-50 bucks to start off)
That, and you would also get access to VIII and IX if you enjoyed VII.
I have to disagree with his down special. In FF7 the 'limit break' was as a result of taking too much damage over time, similar to how Little Mac's KO meter works. I'm thinking that Cloud's Limit Break here should work the same... Omnislash is likely to be the final smash but since Omnislash was the final Limit Break who knows? I wonder if the 'summons' form part of the Midgar stage we saw in the trailer?
GameXplain's analysis was just a big head-scratcher. A+ for effort though...
@bro2dragons
Except that, as noted elsewhere, Omnislash is the basis for those Final Smashes, not the other way around. Search "Final Fantasy VII Omnislash" and see for yourself.
@Fazermint Final Fantasy VII IS getting a remake on PS4. It was announced at E3 this year. Whether or not it will come to a Nintendo console remains to be seen.
@LavaTwilight - The Limit Break gauge is above Cloud in battle tho and not next to Cloud's % status. I don't see why it would charge that fast and have it's own animated stance, either.
Screen shots have been shown of characters trying to obtain a red orb, which summons the eidolons for the Midgar stage.
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