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imadeanaccount

Not too long ago, Falcom recently talked about porting the series to modern platforms (perhaps with a physical release too, hopefully). Currently in the west, it is only on Steam. I think I would be a great entry point for someone like myself who doesn't play on PC. Almost all of the JRPG crowd is playing on Switch too.

Do you think this will happen? And, is there anyway for us to show NIS our support for a collection?

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Ryall

@imadeanaccount The best way to show NIS that there is demand for the old PSP Trails games on switch is to buy the 2 that already out. I would start with Trails from Zero

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Sillyeyepatch

I started with Zero because it was on Switch. Waited for the sky games but I gave up so I started playing them on Steam. 0 regrets.

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Dimjimmer

Trails in the Sky is being handled by XSeed in the West, so it's unlikely that NISA can do anything about that. XSeed has said that they don't do console ports, because they lack the necessary staff. And even if Falcom decided to release the Sky trilogy in Japan for the Switch, there is still no guarantee that it would be released here, if Trails of Cold Steel 1+2 were anything to go by (both released in Japan for the Switch in 2021, and XSeed has not even commented on whether they would bring them here).

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TensuraFan7

@Dimjimmer Honestly depends on if XSeed's contract for publishing rights has expired or not. More often than not there is an expiry date on publishing rights, depends on the contract though.

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Dimjimmer

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The games are still being sold and supported by XSeed in various platforms, so that would be a negative for the time being.

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imadeanaccount

@Nidorom I thinking of starting with Zero or Daybreak, but so many Trails fans seemed to have told me I shouldn't do that. I can't tell if they're just megafans and say the most tiny minute detail might not make sense. I've heard people say you need to play Cold Steel 2's New Game Plus to understand Cold Steel 3. Did you understand Zero?

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Sillyeyepatch

You can start with Zero and then Azure and be fine, there are some characters that will show up from trails in the sky and you'll enjoy that part more if you played the sky games first, but other than that it's very standalone in my opinion. Can't speak for cold Steel's new game+ as i haven't got to that series yet. But you definitely shouldn't start with Daybreak.

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Ryall

People often think the order they’ve experience something is the right order.
Both an unexpected plot twist and recognising something you’ve seen from an earlier game from a different perspective are cool. So it doesn’t really matter which game you get the surprise in and which you have deep understanding of both enjoyable and they work both ways round.

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Tyranexx

I've wanted to get into this series as well and am gradually stockpiling the games. On Switch when I can (Currently 5), but I've conceded that I'll have to play Trails In The Sky FC/SC/the 3rd on Steam. I was gifted FC on there anyway. Not sure what I'll do about Cold Steel I/II yet, but my guess is I'll have a better PC by the time I can start dreaming about those. Or XSEED will finally lose the rights.

The most common advice I've seen is to play them in release order. However, from the outside looking in, the barrier of entry is overwhelming and only increases with each new release. I've heard it's best to take them an arc at a time; if you bounce off the Sky Trilogy, move to the Crossbell Duology or the Cold Steel/Erebonia arc. That sort of thing. At the very least, it isn't nearly as overwhelming.

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Up for pre-order on Amazon. Looks so good. Full remake.

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Ralizah

Trails in the Sky FC remake is going to be absolutely stunning on an OLED screen.

Will be nice having these on consoles in remade form, since Marvelous is just going to squat on the Western distribution rights for the originals indefinitely.

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Magician

Trails in the Sky preorders going live even though Lunar isn't getting a preorder?

Just weird.

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Tyranexx

@JaxonH It looks absolutely stunning! I'd be on board to pick up the remake for sure.

Nice to see you still around by the way. It's been awhile.

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Kraven

I can’t wait for this one to release. I have the OG on my Vita and it plays great, but a remake is definitely needed. Maybe we will get the entire trilogy.

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Balta666

Probably everyone here already finished 1st chapter by now... I was never very fond of the game, specially because the English voice acting is quite over the top (specially Estelle) but that ending though... Easily one of my favourites ever!!!

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charliecarrot

This game is absolutely stellar. I've never played this series before, but I picked up this remake since it was on sale on Switch 1 and I think I'm having more fun with it than I've ever had with a JRPG before. Or at least in a long time. I'm not sure how it's possible, but this remake has quickly moved up the list into my top 5 JRPGs ever. And from what I can tell, I'm still near the very beginning!

Something that sets it apart is every NPC you can talk to - and there are loads of them in every town - has dialog that regularly updates with each story beat, and many of them have their own little self-contained stories that you could easily miss if you're not regularly checking up on the random townsfolk.

The battle system is where it really shines though. I often get a little tired of turn-based battles in RPGs, but I love these so much I rarely skip past a fight (and no random encounters here). There's strategy in positioning, AOE and directional attacks, manipulating turn order through delaying enemies or setting up attacks that take a while to fire off, oh and every single attack animation is flashy as hell yet snappy and quick, and I rarely skip them.

Music is spectacular - my partner even commented multiple times on how good the music is while passing by, and he doesn't do that often. It has new arrangements for this remake, but I'm amazed when I switch back to the original and hear just how close the arrangements are to the source material.

I've also obsessively completely every single side quest available to me, and so many of them are worth it! It's wild that some side quests come about through what appear to be random NPC interactions and yet lead into a gripping side tale that introduces unique characters and battle partners, and each one fleshes out the world.

My main complaint is just that the beginning was a bit of a slog. They throw about 100 tutorial windows at you. At some point I just started skipping them because there's too much to read. I got worried a bit near the start, but thankfully they dispense of those quickly. You pick up a lot of the mechanics and systems as you play anyway. All the popup tutorial text just has a way of making the game feel more intimidating than it really is with all the lingo and seemingly complicated systems. It's really not as convoluted as it seems, so I just wish they could've presented that information better because I could see it turning people off early on.

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Mgalens

@Dimjimmer
IIRC with the cold steel 1+2 ports they were handled by a third party (clouded leopard entertainment) in asia rather than Falcom themselves, i think their first in-house switch port was Nayuta, so with the original versions of the sky games it depends if the ports are in-house or not and not linked with either a third party or another publisher in the west, basically if Falcom were to release them as standalone games like with some of their other more recent Ys Ports then it could be viable for Xseed to bring them over.

Cold steel 1 and 2 is a complicated matter, it would require falcom to release their own ports but feels less likely due to the CLE ports existing in asian regions.

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Dimjimmer

@Mgalens
Yes, 3 years later and with the release of both Oath in Felghana and Memories of Celceta in the west for Switch, it would seem that the major roadblock for both Cold Steel games is that they were ported by Clouded Leopard in Japan, instead of Falcom.

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Mgalens

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Does make me wonder if it would be viable for PH3 to work with Xseed again since they have done some console ports (they did the PC ports of CS1 and 2 for them and over the past few years worked on some Switch 1 and 2 ports for NISA such as iirc the Zero/azure ports and the Horizon port, i think they also did some work on improving proud nordics for the west on switch 2) otherwise it definitely feels like the Ball is in falcoms court and i imagine the most viable thing in that regard would be if falcom ended up working on in-house switch 2 ports or something.

This is all just mass speculation/rambling on my part though, i would LOVE it if somehow the Cold steel 1 and 2 situation could be resolved somehow since i loved playing the games on the Vita

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