Topic: Metroid: Other M Hype/Discussion Thread (MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS SO BE CAREFUL)

@Adam
I was just speaking in generalities; I wasn't trying to tear your point apart or anything. I agree with you actually--my ideal Metroid would be one that combines the 2D/3D nature of Other M but takes away all the hand-holding and guidance. I love nonlinear games. But I also feel that it's probably a good thing that not every Metroid game is like that. When I was younger I couldn't even touch Metroid Prime and Super Metroid--I got so lost and frustrated. I would have absolutely worshiped Other M (and I still do, to some extent). If nothing else, it's good to break up the formula a bit.

i know what you were saying, i was just offering my opinion on where this game fits on the linearity scale. i happen to agree with you that my ideal metroid would play just like super, where you're left to figure it out on your own. an other m sequel with a slower pace and heavier atmosphere like that is about the best possible idea for the series i can imagine right now.

on that subject, nintendo seems to like making sequels when the engine for the original game took a lot of work to create, otherwise it seems like a waste of all that work. other m's engine almost certainly took a whole lot of work to form, so i'm hoping this is another majora's mask or galaxy 2 case. team ninja already really wants to make another one, at least. the story aspect is where a sequel gets hard to imagine, though; could they drop it and go back to a silent metroid now, or would they come up with another one?

Gotcha. Yea, I agree that it's good not to follow a formula like it's divine guidance. But Sakamoto's group's last three games were decidedly more linear than the original trilogy, so I don't know that that's what they're doing. I'm a bit worried this is the new direction and they're sticking to it. Clearly this isn't going to result in bad games, as Other M and the GBA titles surely attest to, but it is a big step away from what I consider to be the ultimate, yet-to-be-made Metroid. In my fantasy world, their next partnership would not be with Team Ninja but with Konami to create Super Duper Metroid: Mission of the Night. ...probably not going to happen. I'll settle for another Project M but with less handholding, or even a Hunters 2 for Wii or 3DS.

Well it sounds like the next Metroid would take place after Fusion, which for me is very promising. The one thing Metroid Prime 2 really had going for it was that it was completely original in pretty much every way. A new planet, new creatures, new bosses. While I thought Other M had a great balance of new and nostalgia, I also want them to advance the franchise, and move the story forward. Would I like another epic Ridley fight? Sure, but at this point it would be outrageously forced.

It was pretty forced enough as it is. Kraid is the only one I'd really like to see transformed in 3D, but I hate cloning as a plot device (the only worse device would have to be: "It was all a dream"), and I can't think of any other excuse without going back in the timeline. My only hope is that someday they do another Prime game (please be Hunters 2) that brings him back and delivers that Sylux battle Corruption's hidden ending supposedly promises (never beat it myself, but heard about it). As for the next game after Fusion, they need all new stuff, enemies and power-ups. I just don't understand how they're going to keep explaining Samus's need to collect power-ups. It would be kind of ridiculous to start the game with screw attack and space jump.

The next Metroid needs help when it comes to designing bosses though.

Phantoon, Ridley and the Lava Fish thing were great, but other than that, they were all a tad mediocre.

That post would probably be better off in the spoilers thread, though I guess both are spoiler threads now? But either way, I agree. The new bosses were mostly boring in comparison to returning bosses, including at least one you didn't mention.

Oh yeah, the Queen Metroid. Duh.

Facedog.

(And that wasn't even the one I was talking about.)

Who? I has no memory?

As I said before, I really don't see the point in spoiling all this stuff here when there is already a thread specifically for spoilers, hence why I didn't say it to begin with.

Fusion had a pretty nice explanation: she gets a new suit! But you're right, if Other M showed us anything, it's that taking away all of Samus' powers is getting more and more forced. Seeing some brand new ones would be nice as well--I quite enjoyed Other M's Diffusion Beam.

That's not how I saw it. In the Ridley scene, which I assume you're talking about, the suit loses power because he violently grabs her and crushes her, not because she's scared

Oh man, don't even start on the suit. I absolutely hate the idea of it being powered by some sort of magic. I had successfully wiped those scenes from my memory until this conversation. Thanks a lot, guys.

It is really ill-fitting. I can buy Phantoon because he is something other. We don't understand him because he is an external force beyond our comprehension. But Samus is the main character wearing a technological suit created by a race that proved to be very mortal.

But about Fusion, yea, I liked Fusion's explanation, and I loved the look of the fusion suit. Of course, they can't do that again. And even if they come up with some completely original explanation as to why Samus loses all her magic powers again, it'll only prove that Samus is some kind of galactic klutz constantly falling into these situations. A bit too coincidental. Other M thankfully avoided this but wasn't really that satisfactory in some aspects, and it can't really be repeated either.

I'll look it up some time. Don't really care much for reading blogs, but I pretty much agree. I know it's not going to happen, but I believe it's what should happen. They've already said they're going to carry the story forward and of course Samus is going to be the star.

I don't care for reboots personally, but I like the idea of letting another character star or co-star. What I'd prefer most of all though would be for a completely different story / universe with just a similar concept. Video games are way too obsessed with sequels, which is weird when story is not really the biggest drawing point in the first place, so why draw them out, I don't understand.

Edit: In regards to the second post, sounds like silliness. He approved the Prime games in the conceptual phase. It's not like he was surprised by what they had to offer. Not that I'd care if it were true. I don't like Prime much and don't care all that much about what's canon or not.

Oh and the MorphBall isn't some sort of magic... that suit was created by the Chozo, a race way over everyone in technology, like the ancients in StarGate. So if they can make a suit like a second layer of skin, then so be it. Also, if you remember, they weren't able to remove the Suit in Fusion because it's too much integrated in her.

Clearly it's not integrated into her if it can disappear entirely. If removing the suit was a problem, she should have just snapped her fingers and make it go away.

The Chozo were mortals bound by the rules of science as much as anyone else. If they were able to create something like that, I find it hard to believe they'd have ever died out. This defies suspension of disbelief and for no real reason. Why not just make the suit pure technology? Doesn't make sense to me. Oh well.

Welcome in SciFi were many things overthrown the laws of physics....

sakamoto interview that touches on super metroid, metroid 64, and what not: http://www.gamestm.co.uk/interviews/yoshio-sakamoto-discusses...

"A lot of people misunderstood that Team Ninja has only been making games about sexy women characters."

he reveals a few things about why he dislikes 3D games and prefers a more linear style, mainly that is that he has no sense of direction. he couldn't make a metroid on the n64 because he didn't think the controls were compatible for his vision of metroid, which led nintendo to seek out other companies to develop the next installment. this is why sakamoto's team stuck on the GBA while retro wound up working on the home consoles.

it also explains why he's so iffy about the prime games. he has nothing against them directly, it's just that he doesn't like the way most 3D games play in general.

Except that sci-fi at least pretends to offer a pseudo-scientific explanation rather than just making things appear by magic. Like how Star Wars pretends to explain lightsabers even as they defy physics.