Topic: Everything Star Wars discussion thread| How you doing, you old pirate?

@Dezzy The general complaints I see about Baby Yoda is more of how he's a cheap trick to get you to care about him as well as being an overdone cutesy mascot. I don't really agree with that as I just see it as Sci-Fi Lone Wolf and Cub.

I don't really have an issue with the Your Mum joke myself, not a huge laugh or a deal breaker for me but it does beat the humour of Jar Jar Binks and the C3P0 from the old films. The funniest moment from all of the Star Wars to me is from The Last Jedi though when Luke tricks Rey into feeling the force with a leaf.

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@ToadBrigade,

I agree that the last 4 episodes of the Clone wars where great, but I can't see Bad batch matching that story wise. As for the Mandalorian finally: I found it a bit anti-climactic. Sure there where some cool action scenes, including the one at the end (no spoilers here), but storywise it was very thin. Baby Yoda is delivered and that's it! We haven't learned much about Moth Gideon's plans, and the series look to be over anyway. And we might never see baby Yoda again. From the looks and sounds of it Boba Fett just takes over. The whole story seems a bit pointless.

@Henmii I disagree with he story being over. Beside them already conforming there's a season 3 there's clearly more to come with plot threads like Moff Gideon, the Darksaber and the promise from Mando to Baby Yoda still left to cover.

I just finished The Mandalorian. OMFG. I don't get emotional too much when watching shows but OMG I got choked up during that last episode. Won't go into details here. But for me The Mandalorian is the true sequel to Episode 6. ***** the trainwreck that 7,8, and 9 are.

@Shadowthrone There's probably way more CGI than you realise. But the blatant use of actual props, combined with very good CGI makes it hard to notice, since you tend to focus more on the "awkward" movements of the props.

The only CGI you generally notice is bad CGI.

I'd tried to watch episode 1 of The Mandolorian about 4 times and fallen asleep every time - it's really dull (but saved by the last 15 minutes I finally found out).

When I heard whisper of the finale of Season 2 I decided to make myself watch all episodes.

Season 1 seemed better than Season 2. Season 2 has some obvious filler in it (that spiders episode was annoying to sit through) and seemed to rely too heavily on OG character drops. And the S2 finale that pushed me over the line into watching the series was a big disappointment. As 'Luke' moved through the ship it didn't look like the way Luke would move (whereas they got Vader's movements down right in Rogue One), and when he dropped his hood... OMG, the worst deep fake so far, and he hardly said anything - nothing that made it worthwhile having Luke be in that scene.

The Disney Damage-Limitation machine seems to be in full swing and I suspect it is that that is behind much of the hype The Mandolorian is getting.

Idk, I seem to be the only one who wasn't deeply disgusted by Luke at the end of S2.
Sure, it wasn't exactly like him, but I've played enough of the Jedi Knight series to have some suspension of disbelief when it comes to faces and stuff like that, lol. I honestly thought it was leaps and bounds above Tarkin and General Leia, haha!

@Shadowthrone,

That's good to hear, though ending with the Boba teaser was strange: It gave me the impression that the mandalorian was over.

On a sidenote: They are also planning a project around Lando calrissian. His role in episode 9 was abysmal, but in Solo he was played by Donald Glover (a young Lando). I can see them going with that (Donald was pretty good as young Lando). Might them even give them a excuse to fulfill the promise made by the Darth maul teaser!

@Henmii I think that was them setting up for a sequel to Solo, but I think they changed their minds on that one. Most of the Disney films got mixed reviews, and with the Mandalorian doing so well; in addition to it being Disney+ exclusive, makes me think they're going heavy on the series, and not so much the films. At least Favreau is doing both Mandalorian S3 and Boba Fett; so that should be all good.

It was totally fine. People are just being nitpickers, because when you know something is fake it makes you deliberately focus on it.
If people hadn't known that actor (at that age) no longer exists, most wouldn't have notice anything.

I thought the voice was a bit more uncanny than the face. They'd obviously used some kind of digital algorithm to try and de-age his voice, and it sounded a bit mechanical.

I wish he was doing the Obi-wan series instead. I don't really need 2 different mandalorian shows.

What are you basing that on though? We don't have any official version of Luke in this time period. We have the original Legends version that everyone loved, but got "officially" abandoned by Disney. And then we have "Jake Skywalker" that everyone hates.

@ToadBrigade

I want it to distance itself from the sequels, most certainly. But not from the original trilogy. That's what I like about this show the most.

It feels like the original star wars trilogy mixed with Joss Whedon's Firefly. That's basically what this is, and I'm totally on board with that.

@Octane,

They planned a "cinematic universe" for Star wars, but since Solo was a flop they decided to push the pause button. And now it seems they still do this universe, but more in series. The Darth maul tease was interesting, but as I said the movie flopped (and people didn't like the young Han Solo, I didn't like him either), but they liked the young Lando. So I can see them explore this "Maul" idea in a young Lando series, but we'll see.

I finished The Mandalorian a couple of weekends ago, and I thought it was really good. I also thought the cameos were pretty cool and fit into the story as well, which was even cooler. Whether it was the cameos I knew about (Boba Fett, Ahsoka) or the cameos I didn't know about (Luke), I was still really excited about the cameos and the season in general.
I also have a couple of questions about upcoming Star Wars "projects?
1. When is the Rogue Squadron movie taking place (timeline-wise)? I'm asking because I know it's after the Rebellion era (i.e after 4, 5, & 6), but I'm not sure if it's like 5 years after ROTJ (like Squadrons and The Mandolorian), or closer to the Sequel Trilogy timeline? The X-Wing in the Rogue Squadron makes it hard to determine the time period as well
2. Can someone please tell me what the heck is going on with the EA Star Wars exclusively deal? 🤔
I showed a couple of my friends the Lucasfilm Games article that was on here a few days ago, and one of them said something about how the EA Star Wars deal was over all of a sudden. I even tried looking it up, but I conflicting articles about whether the deal was cut early or not.
EDIT: I know the Ubisoft Star Wars game was announced a couple of days ago, but I didn't think about that meant that the EA contract was over, as LEGO Star Wars: Skywalker Saga was announced at E3 2019, and I didn't hear people say that the EA contract was over then (or if there was anyone, it was probably a small group of people). 🤔

1. We don't know a thing about Rogue Squadron. My assumption is that it'll be before Episode IV, exploring the origins of the different factions of Rogue Squadron like Red and Gold before Luke is brought into the picture but this film is likely quite a ways off since all they have right now is a director and that's it

2. EA doesn't have complete exclusivity over Star Wars games anymore. LEGO's agreement was probably completely seperate due to them making LEGO licensed games for years and their rights still remaining to produce Star Wars sets. Ubisoft's game is the first time a major AAA company outside EA will be making a game using the IP since EA acquired the license initially

@SM3DASislit EA's exclusivity ends in two years, the newly announced game from Ubisoft likely won't come out before 2023 as a result. EA's deal wasn't cut short AFAIK. However, they are moving towards a more open approach to Star Wars licensing. So in theory any company could pitch a Star Wars game and get to make one. Ubisoft seems to be one of the first. EA of course can also continue making Star Wars games if they are greenlighted by Disney. That's how I understand it.

I'm just basing it on the fact that at no time during that scene did I get the sense I was watching Mark Hamill return as Luke Skywalker. That's all I'm really interested in.

When they did the Vader scene at the end of Rogue One, they'd obviously gone to appropriate lengths to get the actor inside the Vader costume to move in the style of Vader in TESB - it was very convincing and in that sense, if you watched the two films side by side with no knowledge of when they were made, you could easily believe it was the same actor inside the costume for both films. That's what made the end of Rogue One the success that it was - to us 30-40 somethings we were seeing the Vader from the original trilogy, back in action and kicking ass like we'd always dreamt but barely seen.

At no point in the Mandolorian scene did I feel I was seeing original trilogy Luke Skywalker - I was seeing a Luke Skywalker stand-in, and some cringeworthy CGI. We can sit and speculate that in the time between RotJ and The Mandolorian Luke adapted his lightsaber technique, honed it, added finesse, whatever... but if they don't find a way of capturing some recognizable physical similarities in the way he moved then there's a disconnect for the audience, at least from my perspective.

I get that this can seem incredibly picky to some general enthusiasts, but my attachment to Star Wars is quite heavily based on the individual characters, and in the Mandolorian scene I felt I was watching a generic Jedi with a Luke Skywalker skin.

These are all my first impressions, as I've only watched it once.

I always found Darth Vader fighting cringe myself.

Either you all have way too high standards, or you're just complaining for the sake of it. I personally don't have any issues with the CGI representations in Rogue One and the Mandalorian. Darth Vader in Rogue One was fine as well.

Now, can someone tell me why every Clone Trooper (with a mask) was CGI in the prequels?

Darth Vader was great in Rogue One, savage and precise, showing what a threat he is. It's a shame he never did that in the originals and relied on awkwardly poking towards Obi Wan in the first film or force throwing furniture around in the others. I watched Star Wars decades after it originally come out so when I finally see a lightsaber fight I was disappointed as they were kinda boring to be honest. They don't really compare to some of the great movie sword fights of all time which is what I was expecting with all the Star Wars hype.

For all of people's complaints about the non-original films they managed to get lightsaber fights looking great and not enough credit is given to them for it.