@Dezzy Then there's the folks that are continually touching their cloth mask, the kind that doesn't protect them in the first place. Or the folks that don't cover their nose with it.
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People in my country are consistently going more and more stupid over this.
Like, invading a hospital to 'rescue' infectious dead bodies, people gathering by the hundreds to buy pizza on discount, narcos claiming they'll kill ten doctors for every death in their family, and getting violent towards doctors and sanitizing staff because they don't want them to go infect their community levels of stupid.
Like seriously, there's people who genuinely think the doctors and/or government are actively killing or infecting people because "the disease is fake, and they need the numbers'. That silly.
@Dezzy You've got that backwards: masks are the LEAST important. Most important are social distancing and washing your hands. Masks are ONLY useful for keeping your infected breath to yourself, in places where social distancing is difficult or impossible, such as in stores or public transport.
There's SO many things that can go wrong with these masks, such as people not wearing them the right way, not having masks of the right material, wearing it for too long before cleaning it or replacing it with a new one, and then touching their dirty mask with their hands, and subsequently touching surfaces which other people can touch, who might then touch their own face and so on, and so on...
So, in that respect, you definitely CAN get infected through your fingers, just by being in contact with an infected surface and then touching your face.
@Eel Seriously? That's always one of the possible answers of people who don't think things through.
With how things are standing now, sadly enough, the death toll is actually COSTING countries instead of it earning them money...
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Jesus. There seems to be nothing I can do. I can tell my parents that email forwards are horses**t till I'm blue in the face, and days weeks later, they send me another bulls**t email. Like today, my mom forwarded me an email saying Nobel Prize Winner, Professor Dr Tasuku Honjo says covid has to be man made because natural viruses can't spread or be that bad.
It's just insane. I just can't believe these are my parents.
@Dezzy Yeah, dezzy, they've been saying for a while a vaccine can take 12-18 months in a best case scenario, but that bit seems to get burried by other noise. So maybe February, at the earliest for a vaccine. We officially don't have medication to treat the deadly symptoms. The virus is already here all over our country, and spreads at an exponential rate. Unless there is a miracle discovery, distancing is all we have, and it's probably going to be like this through next winter.
It's probably not "spreading" at an exponential rate in most of the country at this point though.
An exponential only "spreads" when the base is greater than 1. If it's less than 1, it shrinks rather spreads. In which case you probably can put kids on a school bus, as long as you check to make sure it doesn't cause the base to grow above 1.
@Dezzy When we carry on normal lives without distancing, and other precautions, it does spread at an exponential rate. That's what the infection rate curve does. It doubles and triples, compounds. But you're right, shelter in place, washing hands, distancing, and masks prevents that.
@HobbitGamer Is exponential rate spreading inaccurate?
Yes, although even with none of that stuff, viruses do tend to pass naturally anyway. Because they kill everyone who is vulnerable, and everyone else becomes immune.
We obviously don't want that to happen. But it's just to say that in principle, they don't spread exponentially forever (that'd be impossible, obviously. There aren't an infinite number of people)
@Dezzy Yeah, it's a shame we cant quantify the immunity rate over time, as it should be increasing. I bet that data takes months, or a year+ to collect and be usable.
@Dezzy Oof. Yeah, what I've heard, some say they aren't finding data showing herd immunity. Possibly heard that on NHK World. I watch a lot of NHK since I can't stand US cable news anymore. Thanks for sharing the article.
EDIT: I wish google, or google news had a scientific sources search, or medical/.edu results only filter. I get tired of sorting through sources I dont recognize, or don't trust. I mean, I end up adding "site:.edu" to searches, but I wish there was a better way.
@Dezzy Oof. The reference for that article is more bleak. Dr Mike Ryan of World Health Organization basically says the term "herd immunity" is being misused.
"Herd immunity is an epidemiological term usually reserved to describe how the population as a whole is protected from a disease depending on the levels of people vaccinated.
For instance, when 90-95 per cent of the population is vaccinated against measles, this should be enough to protect others who are unable to get an inoculation - such as babies before they reach the age at which they can be immunised.
Asked about the concept being applied to the Covid-19 pandemic, the WHO said "no-one is safe until everyone is safe" and it is "dangerous" to think that countries can "magically reach herd immunity".
Dr Mike Ryan, executive director of the WHO's health emergencies programme, told a press briefing in Geneva: "Humans are not herds, and, as such, the concept of herd immunity is generally reserved for calculating how many people will need to be vaccinated and the population in order to generate that effect.
"This is a serious disease, this is public enemy number one, we have been saying it over and over and over and over again."
He said "no one is safe until everyone is safe", adding: "So I do think this idea that 'maybe countries who had lax measures and haven't done anything will all of a sudden magically reach some herd immunity, and so what if we lose a few old people along the way?' - this is a really dangerous, dangerous calculation."
aaand here everyone is waiting on a second stimulus check.
they vote tonight lol
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