@Mickey Now you're exaggerating. No one would have a scale like either of those you mentioned.
You name the site that appears on Metacritic, it's credible. It's a touchy subject, no doubt, but like I said, it's the best we've got to objectivety regarding video games. If Call of Duty was mediocre, its ratings would not be in the late 80s, mid 90s range. Games can be judged from numerous different aspects. From its gameplay to its controls, it all counts.
It can be compared to its predecessors, its successors, even non-related franchises in the same genre. Accumulating numbers from averages is a well organized, efficient way to rate or, in this case, evaluate something. It's math, it's science. It's what we have to objectively glance at a video game and determine its quality. Yes, I would much rather cycle through non-gaming journalists every five or so years to keep it even more credible, but that's not the way it is, unfortunately.
Just for you. "I'm just a musical prostitute, my dear." - Freddie Mercury
"Chrono Cross shipped 850,000 and 650,000 units in Japan and abroad respectively."
"As of January 2013, the game had shipped 6.6 million copies worldwide" - about Final Fantasy XIII
assuming we're talking about popularity still. I tl;dr for my own sanity.
Sales number are also a great way to determine quality.
Oh, and if you think I'm nostalgic over Chrono Cross like a deranged fanboy (assuming you're trying to get personal considering my username and you're comparing it to a different RPG hoping to get me riled up), you obviously don't know me well enough to try that.
No, he is not. This entire thread is subjective. That's why these are opinions. And believing false facts isn't a opinion. Saying you think something is boring is an opinion, but saying the world is flat is not an opinion. When people say COD is boring, that is an opinion, but saying every COD game is literally the exact same is not an opinion, because it is simply untrue.
Again, you are wrong.
Going by his and your logic, yes, the world being flat as a map can be an opinion. With enough ignorance, of course.
I'm kinda going on a tangent based on the above, as well as going back to the "Objectivity vs. Subjectivity" argument that I definitely was not done talking about from earlier in the thread. The whole "popularity" argument is a strawman that I don't want to deal with.
@Mickey Now you're exaggerating. No one would have a scale like either of those you mentioned.
You name the site that appears on Metacritic, it's credible. It's a touchy subject, no doubt, but like I said, it's the best we've got to objectivety regarding video games. If Call of Duty was mediocre, its ratings would not be in the late 80s, mid 90s range. Games can be judged from numerous different aspects. From its gameplay to its controls, it all counts.
It can be compared to its predecessors, its successors, even non-related franchises in the same genre. Accumulating numbers from averages is a well organized, efficient way to rate or, in this case, evaluate something. It's math, it's science. It's what we have to objectively glance at a video game and determine its quality. Yes, I would much rather cycle through non-gaming journalists every five or so years to keep it even more credible, but that's not the way it is, unfortunately.
First off, I wasn't exaggerating too much. I've seen games get 7/10 from different sites, and because of their different scoring systems, those numbers meant completely different things. I promise I'll provide proof in the morning (Gamespot and RPGFan will be the sites I'll be getting them from). That is the problem. That site takes an average set of numbers that have nothing to do with eachother to come up with the overall score. How are you able to discern quality from that?
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Yeah, guitars are cool.
My musical project Comet Tail made a couple of recordings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0zUoWWO1v4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2evBddvrm2U
You think animal cruelty is horrible? Think of the plants you rip apart and the branches you break. The pain they feel.
You do realise that plants lack the nervous system required to feel pain? Exactly the same reason why cutting the umbilical cord doesn't hurt the baby, no nerves.
Just for the sake of sane human beings, I felt I should clarify my point about Call of Duty. It was a super general thing, not meant to be definitive of even my opinion, and in general I didnt explain it. Basically, on average Call of Duty is fairly in the middle for an FPS. Some of them are better, some worse, but the best games are like maybe kinda close to the level of a truly great game, imo. And the worst just test my patience and go between mediocre and boring. I haven't played every COD so I don't want to say they're definitively mediocre even on average, but they at least don't do enough to justify their popularity nor their hatred.
So basically great game > best COD >>>>>> COD on average >>>>>>>>> worst COD > bad game
@shaneoh There was actually some research on that, IIRC, and while they don't have "nerves" they do seem to react to damage, and even react when nearby plants get hurt. I'd have to look that up again, I forgot what they tested as the reaction...
We're talking about averages, not individual reviews.
I'm not sure why you're diving so deep in an attempt to prove me wrong. If the average of a game interests you for whatever reason and you come across that 7/10 on RPGfan, read the review. It's why it's there to begin with.
How are you able to discern quality from that?
How do you withhold the audacity to not feel concern for our planet's vegetation?
Just for you. "I'm just a musical prostitute, my dear." - Freddie Mercury
Just for the sake of sane human beings, I felt I should clarify my point about Call of Duty. It was a super general thing, not meant to be definitive of even my opinion, and in general I didnt explain it. Basically, on average Call of Duty is fairly in the middle for an FPS. Some of them are better, some worse, but the best games are like maybe kinda close to the level of a truly great game, imo. And the worst just test my patience and go between mediocre and boring. I haven't played every COD so I don't want to say they're definitively mediocre even on average, but they at least don't do enough to justify their popularity nor their hatred.
So basically great game > best COD >>>>>> COD on average >>>>>>>>> worst COD > bad game
Unpopular opinion: A game does not have to be exceptional or unique to be popular. It just has to be attractive to its target audience and competent enough on a technical level to be enjoyable.
We're talking about averages, not individual reviews.
I'm not sure why you're diving so deep in an attempt to prove me wrong. If the average of a game interests you for whatever reason and you come across that 7/10 on RPGfan, read the review. It's why it's there to begin with.
How are you able to discern quality from that?
How do you withhold the audacity to not feel concern for our planet's vegetation?
You're talking about an average as if it's a definitive measure of quality. I'm saying it cannot be definite because its use of measure is fundamentally flawed. Even you seem to agree it is flawed, but still somehow hold it as "evidence" that quality of games can be objectively measured. It's baffling to me, and you really aren't helping at all. :/
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