So with all the hate and love for Phil Fish on this site, I started wondering: Does (and should) a person's views and opinions affect how people perceive the quality of his/her work? In the Phil Fish example, I couldn't care less for his "offensive comments" but even if I did I would still gladly admit I think Fez is a wonderful game that I love. Some seem to not care for his game and bash it based solely on what they think of him. If Hitler painted the Mona Lisa should it not be as appreciated as it is today?
Yes it would devalue it for me. If the creator is crude then I don't want to support that kind of individual by paying them anything, respect or money.
In the example of something like if Hitler painted the Mona Lisa? I may admire the work, but I wouldn't support it actively.
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Yes. If they praise StarFox Adventures, all their works are rendered utterly worthless.
But I couldn't care less about whether or not the person is good, I just care about the quality of the product. A rude person makes something I like? Praise the product, not the creator. Simple.
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I tend to try not to support people who I actively dislike but that's more because of the large amount of works that people can choose from rather than actively not supporting something. Like if I never play Fez, I don't feel like I'm missing much, not anymore than I'd likely miss by not playing...I dunno Journey at the very least. You're gonna miss out on a ton of quality products and fiction etc. so not supporting stuff that angers you I don't consider a big deal unless that is a notably common occurrence.
Yes it would devalue it for me. If the creator is crude then I don't want to support that kind of individual by paying them anything, respect or money.
In the example of something like if Hitler painted the Mona Lisa? I may admire the work, but I wouldn't support it actively.
You touched on this in your example, but viewing quality and supporting are entirely two different issues.
Gay people collectively believe Chil fil a has good chicken sandwiches, and those sandwiches didn't get worse when they learned the CEO was anti-gay marriage. The sandwiches stayed the same, but certain people stopped supporting them.
I also have no idea if gay people collectively like their chicken sandwiches, I completely made that up. But the point remains.
That's a great question and my answer to is yes. What ever is made by someone in this world is first and foremost a reflection of themselves. By interacting with the work of somebody, you're interacting with them. And simply put, if I don't share the values of an individual, I believe it can be understood that I don't want to have anything to do with his work, no matter how outstanding it may appear.
All people have stupid views about something. If they mattered there would be nothing left to like.
While this tends to characterize the relationship I have with a product and its creator, it's mostly through blissful ignorance. Particularly beneficial when, as you've alluded to, it's hard to align views with other people in general.
Normally, I would say no, except in one case. If you've ever heard of the anime Kokoro Connect, it's a school drama about students who are coerced by this paranormal entity which puts the students into situations of extreme stress to understand the nature of humanity. At the end, it's a work which depicts the nature of friendship and teamwork, which help humans overcome their own personal shortcomings.
Now, in the making of that anime, the creators decided to play a prank for the sake of making a publicity stunt. They created an extra role for a young and inexperienced voice actor, and ran through the entire auditions process and everything. That role didn't actually exist, however, and nearly everyone working on the project was in on it except for the poor rookie. Half of them said things like "it's a hard life, you just have to deal with it" and the other half said they felt sorry but still didn't do anything to stop it.
The show itself is actually pretty incredible (for the first half, the second half is still above average) but once the internet got a word of the publicity stunt they went and downvoted the anime on just about every front. They probably worked out the logic that an anime made by horrible people should also be horrible and at least doesn't deserve to be successful. I don't particularly condone this mindset, but as I watched the anime I couldn't shake the feeling that a story about friendship and kindness couldn't possibly be genuine if it came from people who would sell out someone for some cheap publicity.
So yeah, I just spent five paragraphs and a reference to an obscure anime to say what @DePapier said. A work can be as objectively good but if it's not true to the original author's personality then it feels like a pile of lies to me. And to be honest, if a creator is a jerk and his work reflects and acknowledges his jerkery, then it can actually turn out to be poignant and fascinating.
always thought I'd change to Gyarados after I turned 20 but hey, this is more fitting I guess. (also somebody registered under the original Magikarp name and I can't get back to it anymore orz)
I wouldn't support/praise the creator if he was a douchebag. But I would support their game if it was enjoyable.
You could tie this example to any game creator really. For example, if Miyamoto was a douche, I'd still give praise to his games because I thoroughly enjoy them.
Look at the picture above. No masterpiece, but it's not terrible either.
Now what if I told you that was painted by non other than young Adolf Hitler. Did you suddenly start to hate it because of its creator? To me ,at least, it's still a "meh".
I don't think a value of one's work should be decided by its creators doings or values, but to rate it as one would rate any other movie, game or in this case, a painting. But of course, the value is always given by others – the onlookers – and maybe one of their criteria is: who the creator is.
To sum it up TL;DR It shouldn't but it does.
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Mount and Blade: Warband – Napoleonic Wars
Chivalry
Super Mario 3D World – Finishing the last few levels.
Mario Kart 8
Yes. If they praise StarFox Adventures, all their works are rendered utterly worthless..
Does that mean our Star Fox Adventures costume party is cancelled?
Let's not get hasty now, there's never a bad time to dress up like an idiotic frog. u_u
@ClockworkMario Didn't he flunk out of Art School? That should tell the quality of his work right there. He was obviously never a Van Gogh.
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