Switch Has Outsold The Original And Slim PlayStation 4 In Japan

Nice!.... The Switch is such a fantastic product for Japan!

HAHAHAHA. The Switch is the best console ever. Where are the haters now?

PS4's 88 million systems worldwide is very impressive... especially coming off the back of the third-place finisher PS3. I wonder if it will surpass the Wii when it is all said and done?

That’s awesome going. Hopefully it’ll bypass the entire PS4 lime fairly soon, especially with the lineup expected to come in 2019

That’s nuts!

It really doesn't matter. Switch sales continue at a steady pace and there are still people who haven't bought one but it's on their wishlist. Games like Smash Bros will continue to sell systems well in to 2019!

I almost wish I hadn't bought at Switch at launch just so I could go through the excitement of buying another one (strange as that may sound)

I remember about a year ago when Sony was claiming they weren't concerned with the Switch. I wonder if they are now?

@Prof_Yoshtonics Probably not. The Switch and PS4 can coexist pretty peacefully. Having two systems has been common for decades now, and with Nintendo only having one in the game the PS4 now has less competition than ever.

It's a portable and $100 (on average) cheaper though.

Still an amazing accomplishment.

@Prof_Yoshtonics have you seen the PS4 sales numbers in the West? I don't think they are.

Sony's tannoy.
Attention Cobalt. Could Cobalt please attend the NLife messages board concerning Switch sales in Japan please. Thank you.

Pretty cool accomplishment, Nintendo.
Still say though, when we all play we all win. Doesn’t matter what console you prefer, as long as you’re having a good time.
“Console war” mentality just pulls everything apart.

It’s a hybrid not just a handheld, well deserved long live Nintendo:) still love the SNES the best though.

@Edu23XWiiU in their caves.

@GrailUK colbat must of check himself in a mental institution after finding out switch outsold the original and slim ps4 wait till next year he going to lose his mind wen switch surpass the ps4 in the west since switch got a ton of games coming next year.

Is this really such a big deal? To me it's not until the Switch outsells all PS4 models combined. Seperating the units like this seems silly to me. It feels like, ''PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale outsold Super Smash Bros. Melee! ..but only version 1.0 of Melee.'' (Don't shoot me if this isn't actually the case, just giving a dumb example.)

Just a bit of a nitpick really, of course it's great to see the Switch doing so well.

@Equinox if sony keeps censoring their games their going to lose more of their base some alrdy have left cause of the bs sony is pulling.

Yeah! Nintendo where it belongs!

Not surprised.

Might be that some exclusive Japanese devs will set their eyes on the switch for now...

I do recall Nintendo wasn't trying to compete with Sony but fanboys seem to try to do that everytime if we all on NL recall. And now that Switch is going to overtake them we get whiners coming out of the woodwork drinking too much koolaid now.

@link3710 Nintendo also has another if you forgot 2DS and 3DS XL. Those themselves hold their own market shares.

Lol relax hardcore fanboys. Have you seen the ps4 sales figures for the west?

First Japan and then worldwide. Sony needs to prepare that PS5 and fast.

OMG !
Go, Nintendo Switch !

WHO'S NEXT?!?!

Goldberg Theme

New PS incoming. Even when the PS4 is stronger in other countries, Sony just doesn't like the idea of being number 2 in their own home country.

Alright everyone. Just got done hearing people say there is a culture war in the US over Christmas apparently. Let’s not invent any more pointless battles, especially about something as arbitrary as brand identity. Let the console war stay buried in dumb 90s nostalgia.

Don’t care if coke is better than pepsi, just enjoy the games.

So basically what has been obvious for a while now. Best to have a PS4+Switch 😏

@hihelloitsme Nah. PS4 Slim/OG are similarly priced to the Switch normally, and, across the holiday season, their prices have been slashed pretty drastically worldwide. Switch has seen no comparable price cuts.

Amazing job for Nintendo but no real surprise. Japan is a very mobile market thats why the 3ds and 2ds do so much better there. A lot of people work long hours and commute so it does make sense. Pretty amazing though.

I really don't care about whether or not the Switch is outselling other consoles; all I know is that it's selling.

Japan simply doesn't care about PlayStation that much anymore. Especially now with all the censorship going on. As a result of moving PlayStation HQ from Japan to California in 2016, means that even games exclusively released for Japan are being censored in Japan, itself. PlayStation is basically imposing western cultural values and sensitivities on to Japan, and Japanese gamers aren't happy about it.

@Prof_Yoshtonics why would they be? Switch has a different target audience, figures are only for fanboys to brag and beat chests about, the markets are large enough for all products to co exist.

If 3rd parties stopped supporting Sony, made the Switch (Wii U 1.5) their main system, gamers stopped buying Sony games then they would be worried.

@Yosher I think it’s noteworthy to some because the PS4 pro has a noticeable power bump over the original PS4 and the PS4 Slim, so it’s more likely someone who already owned a PS4 would upgrade to that model and slightly inflate sales numbers.

Personally, I think this is a nice and interesting fact, but global numbers for all models are far more important imo.

@PuppyToucher @Ralphio It's noteworthy to mostly japanese developers and those focusing on the japanese market. Sure it won't dissuade those with a more global approach, but still 22 million is still a lot to go by.

In addition studios are also looking at the adoption rate, to see if a (long) dev cycle will play out and so far the Switch is sporting an incredible growth!

@SwitchForce The 3DS / 2DS is exiting the market and being succeeded by the Switch. Like any changeover there's a time where they'll both be selling, but they're no longer an active competitor to Sony.

There is something that is not said but really important :

In Japan, the PS4 is a home system and the Switch is a portable there.

To compare the Switch to the PS4 is almost a nonsense, especially when we all know how portable systems from Nintendo sells in Japan compare to home systems...

PS : for those who don't know, in Japan the Switch is sold as a portable device that you can eventually plug on a TV.

You know what Cobalt. I'm giving you a like for that because I just find you bloody hilarious. You just didn't let me down at all.

I’ll have to remember one is a portable device and one is a home device the next time people start comparing graphics/power/games and making direct comparisons between the two. Funny how that happens.

@Cobalt
Nintendo Switch is BOTH Console and Handhelds.
Period.

@hihelloitsme have you seen switch numbers in the West?

Fastest selling console of the generation in USA
And they are killing it in Europe to
But Sony shouldn’t be worried anyway, they left their mark on the gaming world and they at least a couple more years at the top before the switch can reach those numbers

It's portability, but it's also software. It's more convenient to play a few rounds on the go of Splatoon, a few battles of Smash, collect a few moons in Odyssey, run a few courses in Mario Kart, or explore a few areas/shrines in Zelda than sit down for the bloated, hyper-realistic, cinematic epics that dominate the PS4.

People with lives don't have time to devote 70+ hours to every game. Nintendo's software options, combined with the hybrid console, have given consumers more options to game in accessible chunks.

Are sales numbers really that important? To me, it's no big deal if Sony is going to reach 90 million worldwide or Nintendo selling more than Sony in Japan. I play, what I like to play - even if it is the freaking Ouya. Also, the haters will keep on hating, even if Nintendo sells a billion Switches.

No, really: I don't like the Ouya.

Only thing I hate about threads like this is when people turn it into a fanboy console war.

The gaming industry is great when everyone is selling well. Props to Nintendo for bouncing back from the Wii U debacle

@Edu23XWiiU heck yes it is, i'm loving it so far since its been released. Im just wishing nintendo can release a more better online with us having a messaging system and stuff you know.

@Ralizah that's true it is the Pro that sits at $400.

@Tantani oh there's no doubt switch is an unbelievable success. PS4 numbers are just crazy though (yes, it's been out way longer).

@Anti-Matter @Medic_alert @BenGrimm @GrailUK If it was the PS4 that was outselling the Switch in Japan, he would say they were comparable. LOL.

I don’t get why it needs to be a competition. Let us be glad both systems are doing well. More options and more great games!

@Devlind it is also Nintendo’s home country
And ps5 should be something huge to have a chance to re-take
The switch is great for the Japanese life style in a way that a home console can’t compete

@hihelloitsme no doubt about it
I have both, as long as I get this amazing games, I just want both to succeed

Is this really that impressive?

PS4 sales in Japan were never great. Heck, for a while back in 2014, the PS4 was selling <10,000 units per week, which was similar to or less than what the Wii U was selling back then. Things have improved since then, but PS4 sales have never come close to the sales of Nintendo's handhelds, the PS1/PS2/PSP, or the Switch.

The more impressive achievement is that Switch sales are now beginning to outpace that of the Wii when launch aligned, all without any price reductions or holiday deals.

@cfgk24
Not just for Japan.😉

"6,670,000 million units"... Wow, that's several trillion!

@flapjack-ashley
PS3 was second at the end.

@Prof_Yoshtonics They are right. For a 5-year console, PS4 continues to sell very well. Switch despite selling their own software exceptional, has a shy sale of Third Parties. It's a great time for both.

@Cobalt
"PS : for those who don't know, in Japan the Switch is sold as a portable device that you can eventually plug on a TV."
No, it's not. Please, stop spreading such bullcrap! 🙄 Switch is sold and marketed every as a hybrid console.

@GrailUK Thank you for making my day.

@hihelloitsme it will outsell the ps4 when its said and done.wait to see the switch sales when it hits 4 years

@Tantani u do realize ps5 will be a souped up ps4 right lol .it can't get to much better then what it is.besides even 4k tv's can only do so much

A well deserved success! I'm happy for Nintendo and the videogame industry in general.

I personally don't care which outsells which as I support both Nintendo and Sony systems, but I'm glad the Switch is doing so well. Nintendo couldn't afford another Wii U debacle (I liked the Wii U but too many did not).

Well done nintendo. Great stuff. My dads better than your dad

Wow didn't expect that.
i gave my switch and all games to my youngest brother im going to buy a new one in January.

@link3710 "The 3DS / 2DS is exiting the market and being succeeded by the Switch. Like any changeover there's a time where they'll both be selling, but they're no longer an active competitor to Sony."
They are since the Vita was killed by Sony. See how people are trying still dismiss Nintendo market share when they start losing out.

wow! amazing numbers!

@retro_player_22 "Sony needs to prepare that PS5 and fast."
For what? A more expensive 4K console that doesn't show much more for 4K then the older PS4? I think there is too much koolaid going on here.

PS4 is doing really well for a system that old. 88 million units worldwide is nothing to scoff at. Even as a Nintendo fan, most of my GOTY or most played games picks came from games on PS4, or played more on other systems over Switch! But congrats anyway Nintendo.

@GrailUK I mean he's not wrong, They even sell Dockless Switches on the JP My Nintendo store. Most of the JP marketing even shows people playing in Handheld mode more than TV Mode.

Also in Japan handheld gaming is immensely popular, so therefore it makes logical sense for it to be marketed that way. Different audiences require different approaches to marketing.

Most normal, levelheaded gamers don’t care who outsells who. They’re just glad the system is doing well coming off the back of Wii U.

But I’d be lying if I said I didn’t get at least some pleasure watching certain people react like water on the wicked witch when they hear of good Switch sales. People like Cobalt, who are practically allergic to good Switch news. Always selectively posting sales numbers from UK citing horrible Switch performance, and then downright ignoring the sales when it’s breaking records in every other region.

So ya. I like seeing articles like this just to put the anti-Switch haters in check.

@BlueBlur101 Pretty sure they are selling dockless Switches because they want more than 1 Switch per household (and that doesn't need more than 1 dock.) as opposed to touting them as handhelds.

@EchoNemesis I agree completely. The PS4 is dope. I just wish Sony wan't so smug sometimes.

@GrailUK @BlueBlur101
The issue is he makes it sound like “oh well of course it’s doing well, that’s not a big feat, nothing to brag about, nothing to see here“ as if being portable is an automatic win. But it’s not. When the tables are turned, that same person will argue how it’s not portable enough, not pocketable, etc, and “can never replace 3DS”. Until it becomes a convenient excuse for doing well.

Vita was portable, and that wasn’t an automatic win for the system in Japan. 8 years in the market and struggled to even match PS4 in Japan. And that system was even pocketable. So just being portable isn’t enough.

By the same measure you could write off PS4 sales in the west, saying “oh well of course it’ll do well, it’s a power console, the west prefers power consoles, nothing to see here, that’s no real accomplishment“.

But it is an accomplishment for PS4, regardless of the fact the Western world prefers power consoles. And it’s an accomplishment for Switch, regardless of the fact Japan prefers handhelds.

@PrincessBowsette I get it he is the local Sony fanboy on here? Lol

@Cobalt they sell the Switch with and without a dock. The Switch is a console that can be played as a portable, but it is a home console as well. You don't get to say what the Switch is. The reason It's selling so well is not the portable nature alone, it's the games and the fact it gives you a home console experience on the go.
I have never seen a more insecure fan base than PlayStation fans. The PS4 could sell 120 million lifetime, but if the Switch sold 121 million, the Sony fans wouldn't be happy. That is how you all act.

Sony sux big time

@Cobalt
Let’s compare it to the ps vita.

@PrincessBowsette They're already on track to doing that with me. I'm looking more and more likely to look into Xbox as the day goes by unless they change things.

@SwitchForce I have no idea what you're even trying to say. All I'm saying is that with the Vita, Wii U, and 3DS in the past (more or less) now, Nintendo and Sony's products are in less direct competition than than ever before. Is this not a true statement? PS4 + Switch (or XB1 + Switch) is now going to appeal to both the PS3 + Vita group and the Wii U + 3DS group of consumers.

Why is the night shift clickbait writer writing clickbait articles during the day?

Big whoop. When people come out with statements like "outsold the slim and origianl PS4" it just smacks of bitterness.

By all means celebrate when it outsell PS4 brand in Japan but none of this petty rubbish. Plus at the end of the day the PS4 is King with 80 odd million sold and the PS5 will also be King when released....but that is why I buy Playstations as well as my Nintendo consoles.

@ReaderRagfihs

It hasn't. Not even close.

@GrailUK I feel like the popularity of handheld gaming over dedicated console gaming in Japan especially, has to be some kind of factor though.

I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case. I even heard that the 3DS version of DQXI actually outsold the PS4 version in Japan, for example.

@SwitchForce

Everything you spout is pure gibberish. Try shutting up you fool.

@KingdomHeartsFan Exactly! Glad to see that there do exist people in this comment thread who actually understand.

There's no need to lynch the PS4 and roast it in this thread, I feel too many of those people are here. My top GOTY is actually a PS4 exclusive in fact.... It's Spider Man, that game made me feeeelllll

@flapjack-ashley PS3 actually passed the 360 granted I didn't know that at first and Sony still barely made a profit. The PS4 is definitely amazing in comparison though.

Who's the pretty store assistant girl?

@Equinox IDK the PS 1 and 2 were well in the lead and that Sony was far btter than the one that gave us the PSP, 3, and Vita.

@Yosher Yeah excluding Pro is really funny in Japan since that's usually one of the last markets to actually invest in higher resolution media.

@westman98 True. PS4 has inherited a Japanese consumer base that doesn't really play console games nearly as much.

Congrats to the Switch! It’s a great system.

On the other hand, I find it utterly despicable that people here are picking on other users because they don’t agree with their views. We all suffer as a community when people shut down others just because their views are different than the norm.

@BlueBlur101 @KingdomHeartsFan Ye I'm sure it's portability is a key selling point (it is in the West also), and you are both right in so much as it more attractive in Japan.
I deleted my post about Mario Party being so high in the charts without a handheld mode, but it's late and most of the Japanese advertising revolves around playing in tabletop mode (so still portable) which backs up your comment .

I don’t think the PS5 will do any better in Japan, than the PS4 unless if Sony has some big aces up their sleeve. I’m sure the PS5 will be a success worldwide unless if Sony screws something up, but it’ll be in the Switch’s shadow for it’s entire lifespan in Japan.

@Mrtoad ps5 wont save sony if they keep on being trigger happy censoring their games.

@KingdomHeartsFan It seems hardware companies do best with their backs to the wall.

While this is good news for Nintendo, I still doubt the Switch will outsell the PS4 globally.

@Inkling next years game lineup for switch could push switch sales beyond ps4 globally since theres several big hitters in 2019.

Is KH that big of a franchise in Japan? KH3 is the only game coming out next year on PS4 that I can think of that could propel PS4 hardware sales in Japan. Last of Us 2 could be a big seller in the west, but from what I understand the first one sold less than one million units in Japan.

@PrincessBowsette Ehh, PS4 too has heavy hitters. Going from ~22 mil to ~88 mil (or however much the PS4 has sold at the end of 2019) in a year is near impossible.

Go Nintendo!

The Switch is my favourite games machine ever. I also own a new £1000 gaming PC which is much more powerful than a PS4 Pro or Xbox One X yet I still spend more time playing games on the Switch. It's no wonder the Switch is selling faster than the competition.

@KingdomHeartsFan

The Amega is my second favourite games machine of all time.

where's that dude with the alligator pic who always has something negative to say?

+1 to the Amiga 500 appreciation society

With such good games, and an incredible fan base, is it a surprise? JOYCON BOYZ

@kokirii
Gatorboi ?
He has been banned for long time ago due to his negativities and trolls.

@Anti-Matter gatorboi is now hihelloitsme

@Gerald
He is here again with different username and same negative attitudes ?

Edit: Nevermind.
I found his comments were completely opposite with his comments as gatorboi.

@Anti-Matter as an observer, I would say he’s mellowed. But who know’s how many other usernames he has.
My hero Sliggy must have at least 2, although his first is obvious to most (Co....cough cough)

@NotTelevision

Yes, the war on Christmas has been one of the bloodiest known to American soil. FOX and MSNBC suffered many losses due to the fracas. :0

Dragonquest XII, Switch Exclusive.

@Gerald
Cob....
I think i knew who is Cob.....

@mr_eman
Huh ?
Dragon Quest XII is not even exist yet.

@Inkling dont underestimate the switch man it will surpass the ps4 sales globally and ps4 doesnt have pokemon,bayonetta 3,prime 4,fire emblem in its lineup switch does.

@Gerald you mean Sligeach_France?

@PrincessBowsette Fire Emblem, Bayonetta and Metroid are all great games but not huge system sellers. Pokémon is a whole different story, though.

PS4 has Dreams, Days Gone and possibly The Last Of Us 2/Ghost of Tsushima/Death Stranding. Those are heavy hitting titles.

The PS4 is definitely on the way to 100 million units sold which may happen before 2020 (I think it'll come close but fall just short?) and I just can't see the Switch reaching those numbers during its lifespan. It'll outsell Xbox One by a huge margin but it won't touch 100m.

@Inkling switch is going to pass ps4 global sales one way or another if nintendo and 3rd party devs keep pumping out games for switch every month through the rest of the year and plus nintendo might have unnannounce games up their sleeves to drop in 2019 so i do think switch will get there in a short amount of time and i agree past metroid games didnt sell well only a few did but there hasnt been a metroid games on nintendo main console for a while and after prime 4 reveal last years e3 is hyped everyone across the globe which points too prime 4 being a big seller.

@WiltonRoots
“you mean Sligeach_France”
Ha ha, no, I mean Sligeach_the world
My hero 😍

@SwitchForce Cause if they don't bring the PS5, it will be a matter of time until the Switch oversell all of PS4 not just Japan but worldwide soon.

A system Japan views as a handheld outsold a home console, what ARE the chances a country that loves handhelds more than consoles would buy more handhelds than home consoles?

Um, could this article be even more arbitrary?
There are three versions of the PS4.
So I guess the author thought to themself 'Which two of those can I combine so that they have less sales combined than the Switch alone'.
Which makes the whole thing pointless.

@shani Author is a stretch. Tabloid sh*tposter is more in line with what he creates.

that declares the price drop of the playstation 4 in europe.
got one for 189,-
lucky for nintendo, that sales figures of the xbox drops dramaticly worldwide, nintendo did not have any interesting discount for xmas.

now i realy have what i want, two best consoles on the market:)

@KingdomHeartsFan I could see Death Stranding possibly being a big system seller in Japan if it comes out in 2019. I think the week that KH3 and RE2 are released the PS4 may beat the Switch in Japan for the first time since MHW was released.

@WaveBoy
a new paper mario would be great.

@Royalblues It really isn't a great comparison (Switch vs PS4 in Japan) because the Japanese don't buy consoles as much as they used to but they go crazy for handhelds. So while PS4 may have been the best selling dedicated console of its generation in Japan, that's not quite the achievement it sounds. The Vita isn't that far behind in sales actually, although it's not going to sell a whole lot more at this point. But honestly, I wish Nintendo Life wouldn't push these fanboy kinds of articles.

nice. looks like switch will surpass ps4 sooner or later.

@retro_player_22 "Cause if they don't bring the PS5, it will be a matter of time until the Switch oversell all of PS4 not just Japan but worldwide soon."
And what was gained? They only made it more expensive PS4 2.0 is all they did. If their console are as good as they say then bringing out a new one in short time without any technological increased is signs of desperation.

And what I find reading so from naysayers were before saying how bad the Switch graphics are but now the sells aren't dying out they now are talking about it can never reach the mil mark. So what else are they grabbing onto any straws to try to revise the narrative. That the Switch for less graphics can actually beat a PS4 Pro. That must hurt where the sun don't shine.

@SwitchForce
I think that's because they REFUSE to accept the great sales of Switch.
They still DENY the existences of Switch.
For them, Switch is like Party Destroyer that will ruin their PS4 party.
And some of them are Persistent gamers that playing video games are MUST plugged on TV, Sit down like Couch Potato, No Portability, and it called Cool gamers, Not Noob / Quirky gamers.

@flapjack-ashley It's all but guaranteed to pass the Wii's 101 million

@Cobalt "In Japan the Switch is sold as a portable system that can be plugged in to a TV" ... Hahaha! Really? I guess you know a lot about Japan and how Nintendo operates here, don't you? After all, you seem to know more yourself than everyone here combined...
Let me tell you a little secret: you know nothing, specially where Japan is involved.

I'm quite happy for Nintendo, but I won't consider the Switch has outsold the PS4 until it has outsold both the normal PS4 and the Pro combined... which will happen soon enough.

Globally though, I find it will be much, much harder to close the gap and I don't really think it'll outsold the PS4 globally anytime soon, if ever.

Anyway, both system are performing beautifully, and that is good for all gamers... except to those bitter people out there who only get pleasure by mocking other people's enjoyment.

I would love to see the Switch crush the PS4 ( yes I am petty and childish sometimes, no need to point it out ).
Not because I'm a Nintendo fanboy ( which I am ), but because I'm a SEGA fanboy. Some of you will understand.

@SBandy you shouldn't assume that ps5 will be leader again as they have screwed themselves in the past and they look a lot arrogant once again.

@Balta666

I think it is a safe assumption. Even when Sony totally screwed up the launch of the PS3 they still ended up selling 80+ million PS3 consoles and beat Xbox 360 in the end which had a head start.

At the end of the day even if Sony gets arrogant again they will always have the third party games, great first and second party line up and, perhaps just as important, brand recognition. PS5 will be market leader again.

Nintendo is now completely on its own track as the Switch is now 2/3 years out of line with the other consoles and I can't see it re-alligning any time soon.

@SBandy PS3 almost got Sony into bankruptcy (that shows how bad it really was) and were by far the biggest loser's of the 7th generation. It only surpassed Xbox by the end of it's life cycle and it was sold at a loss for the great majority of its life.
I am not stating it won't but if they keep the arrogance they are one step closer to lose the next generation

@MrBlacky Of course! 😊

@Prof_Yoshtonics no they aren't, people fail to understand again and again that they target different markets

@Cobalt,

Always a negative spin on something positive,but the Switch is tracking above all other consoles with it's worldwide sales,this is an amazing result considering how the Wii U flopped,and when you also consider the console is still pretty much full price,and as the internet forum posting minorities keep constantly pointing out,is low powered and has no games.

Keep trying fella.

@electrolite77,

Because some people would love Nintendo to go third party and stop making consoles,of course then they would be seen as one of the best developers ever.

@hihelloitsme,

No it isn't both the regular Ps4 and Xbox One consoles are cheaper than the Switch.

@Gerald The plot twist will be that half the accounts on here are him, arguing with himself.

@flapjack-ashley PS3 was '2nd' last gen as it outsold Xbox 360 in the last year worldwide...

@electrolite77 "Switch continues to salvage Nintendo’s business from the Wii U disaster."

This is a great way to put it honestly.

@hihelloitsme,

Nintendo did not have to salvage much considering they sold 255 million consoles with the Wii and DS,and even though the Wii U failed they still sold 86 million consoles with the Wii U and 3DS last generation.

Nintendo are in pretty good shape to be honest.

@johnvboy @maruse @nintendosage @michellelynn0976 @MrBlacky @Medic_alert @Anti-Matter @GrailUK

Just listen the president please and now understand that your fanboyism is not a great thing to stay neutral like me.

https://zh.cn.nikkei.com/industry/itelectric-appliance/33643-2018-12-25-09-54-34.html

"Furukawa Taro insisted during the interview on the importance of innovation and flexibility. Moreover, it may well be that the heart of the business may no longer be home consoles."

I just let you ALL think on that sentence a little bit...

@Cobalt quit trolling man.

@Cobalt
Home console or Not, Switch is still kicking PS4 butt.
When Switch already surpass PS4 sales, you have NOTHING to defend your PS4.

Oh, BTW...
Tatsumi Kimishima has mentioned from 12 January 2017 this :

"When mounted on the Nintendo Switch Dock, you can experience high-impact gameplay on the large screen. Just remove the Nintendo Switch system from the Nintendo Switch Dock to transfer the game from the TV to the system screen instantly, letting you experience home console-quality gaming while switching between the TV and any other location," Nintendo President Tatsumi Kimishima said in the company's latest investor relations report.

@Cobalt I'm sorry mate. It's just, I am really struggling to see your angle. What is your point?

@Cobalt Neutral? You? Man, you are anything but neutral.

You just come here with your nonsense with little to no arguments to back it up just to make people upset. You’re just a troll. Sorry if the truth hurts but there’s no other way to describe you.

@Cobalt,

Not a fanboy at all,as I have said before I own an Xbox One also,the only fanboy on here is you with your creepy Wii U shrine.

@Medic_alert,

I say keep him posting,every post he writes makes his comments even more ludicrous.

It is a shame however this forum moderates swearing an political correctness but not idiots.

@johnvboy yeah but just look at those two sets of number in your own post. They went from 250+ million consoles moved in one generation, down to 86 million the next.

That's terrifying if you're a business with shareholders.

@electrolite77 "In fact it was such a disaster it’s likely to be their last out and out tethered Home system."

I also believe this to be true.

@hihelloitsme,

The Wii/DS generation was a very rare situation,the core market is around 160 million consoles every generation so for Nintendo to do this well required a lot of the mass market to buy into it.

86 million is still pretty respectable and Microsoft would take that figure and run a mile this generation.

@electrolite77,

Or we could look at it this way,Nintendo have now gone for the wider mass market which is by it's nature far more fickle.

They hit gold with the Wii and DS,this in turn gave them some breathing space to fail with the Wii U.

@KingdomHeartsFan,

I am only calling out trolls.

@Medic_alert,

Yes as funny as his comments are,he still gets a tad annoying at times.

@electrolite77,

Agreed,the Switch has a lot of potential and with mobile chips getting better and better,Nintendo could have an awesome ground to build from.

@electrolite77 Well, it was noted when it surpassed WiiU, N64 and Gamecube sales. Not sure why PS4 would be an exempt landmark.

Well I wasn't expecting this to happen so quickly.

Glad to see the Switch is doing so well.

@Cobalt Lol You call us fanboys? Look in the mirror for that one. You're the biggest one on here. Also, you take his words out of context. He was saying that consoles may have to adopt some sort of portable aspect to stay relevant in Japan.
You are about as neutral as a one sided debate.

@Zuljaras That comment is a tad out of place.
Calling people “piece of trash” because they can’t afford buying more than one console is a “piece of trash” kind of comment.

I won’t be called a fanboy just because I am not one. I like Nintendo as much as I like Sony. I’ve owned both companies’ consoles throughout the years and I’ve given praise where praise was deserved and being critical when it was necessary. Both companies make awesome games and both companies are arrogant and think they do everything better than the others.

A fanboy is someone who does nothing but to attack others no matter what just because of a difference in opinion and goes out of his way just for the sake of annoying others. Why would he otherwise go to a Nintendo fan site and ridicule their consoles? Or the other way around, it doesn’t matter.
No matter how you look at it, Cobalt is the King of Fanboys here and the one who is always purposely looking to upset everyone.

I only own one console each generation simply because I’m one of those pieces of trash who can’t afford more than one. Why should I be ashamed of that, and how does that make me a fanboy?

But anyway I don’t even know why I allow myself to get annoyed that much by Cobalt’s comments.

I’ll leave it here. There’s no point continuing this useless discussion. Next time he annoys me I’ll just use that handy “Ignore” button.

@johnvboy I could see the Switch 2 running all games in portable at 1080p and 60fps.

@maruse I can play all systems, Nintendo just happens to be my favorite. I love Horizon Zero Dawn. I also love Forza Horizon 4 ln the X Box One.

Glad to see both consoles doing so well! I remember a few years ago certain experts were calling for the end of dedicated game consoles. I’m very happy to see console gaming thriving 😄

@maruse He's not even worthy of the effort it takes to hit the ignore button. I don't think I've seen any other poster that has as many "dislikes" against their posts as he does. He comes in, says something snide, derails the thread and thrives on the responses. It's a lonely existence but that's how he gets his kicks. Some Irish dude used to pull identical tactics. Funny that.

Anyway back to the topic at hand - I do wonder what will happen in Japan if Sony continues with the path they're going down, as in producing a more powerful version of their previous console tied to a TV - will it sell even worse than the PS4? It's already been proven that the Japanese just aren't that bothered by power or western games.

@Anti-Matter only 60 million to go to pass ps4 lol

@Mgene15
I believe Nintendo Switch can surpass PS4 sales someday.

@ag44236 not a chance it passes ps4 sales. U do realize the ps4 global sales right?

@Anti-Matter switch global sales : 22 mil, ps4 global sales : 82 mil. Not a chance in hell

@Mgene15
I believe in Nintendo.
I believe Nintendo can beat Sony once again no matter how hard it is.
It still has a chance.
This is David (Switch) vs. Goliath (PS4).

@Anti-Matter
I hope you’re right. I’m rooting for Nintendo as well.

@Mgene15 PS4 sales are going to significantly slow down within the next year or so once Sony announces the PS5. It’s too soon to say whether the PS5 wil kill Switch momentum, the Switch is selling more consoles faster than the PS4 in it’s two years than in the PS4’s first two year, so the Switch definitely has a chance to eventually catch up with the PS4.

@Mgene15 It's not up to you if it does sell more than the PS4, nor is it up to me. That's why I root for Nintendo, but I don't obsess over who wins.

@Zuljaras 👍
I’m sorry I felt it was directed at me. I had my nerves a tad altered by that other guy. It won’t happen again.

@Zuljaras I totally share your sentiment.

GoW is one of my favorite franchises of all time but, unfortunately, I haven’t been able to play the last one. That game alone is the reason I keep trying to get a PS4 as hard as it’s to me... lol. Someday, there’s no need to hurry.

@michellelynn0976,

Like many have said on this site Nintendo's handhelds have usually brought the numbers in,and taking the Wii as a blip as up till then Nintendo's home console sales were declining every generation,Nintendo could also see a trend that dedicated handheld consoles were also under threat from mobiles and tablet devices.

Nintendo tried the format with the Wii U but the whole system just felt clunky and too restrictive,the Switch however made it possible to put the console in the handheld part of the unit which has made it far more attractive to customers imho,I am not saying everybody wants it as a handheld or a home console,but the choice is nice even if you end up just going in one direction.

Also marketing it as one or the other is a smart move from Nintendo because outside of the core hobby gamers comparisons between the Ps4 and Xbox one or any of their future consoles remains moot,as it's not occupying the same space or is seen as the same type of product,of course with advances in mobile technology the differences will become smaller over time,Nintendo have been very wise to go in this direction.

@johnvboy great points. I think one of the reasons for the popularity of the Switch is it's versatility.

"To date, the PlayStation 4 has now sold an estimated 88 million systems worldwide. As of September, the Switch has sold around 22 million units."

If I read this sentence right, the PlayStation worldwide sales number includes the 2018 Christmas season and the Switch on does not. It will be interesting to if Nintendo closed some of the gap between the two over the holidays.

I'm glad the Switch is doing well. I have really been enjoying mine. In my opinion, it has some of the best games Nintendo has ever made and I can play them on the TV, and on the go. What's not to love? Well yah there is some things not to love but I think the positives greatly outweigh the negatives.

I'm sure PlayStation 4 is a good system as well with good games. I'm just not as interested.

@michellelynn0976
Who’s obsessing? We’re all simply talking about it.

@Anti-Matter Simply making a prediction for DQXII’s home when it’s announced. Square Enix traditionally launches their DQ games on whichever platform already has the largest install base in Japan.

@Mgene15 I didn't say anyone by name. I am just pointing out some do.

@Zuljaras
Agreed! Fanboys are worst & this site has the bottom of the barrel.

@michellelynn0976 if it does that's a day 1 purchase for me. Not because o that, but it would mean as docked it would be even more of a beast.

@Prof_Yoshtonics
It's been common knowledge for awhile that Japanese don't really care about home consoles anymore and that the ps4 didn't do that well there. Globally, though, it has far more sales.