Ah, poor Wii U – you’ve got to feel for it. Through bungled messaging and almost total non-support of its unique asymmetric gameplay, Nintendo launched the ship without a compass into an ocean littered with pointy icebergs ready to pierce her glossy white hull. Despite releasing some excellent games on the platform, only a comparatively small fraction of Nintendo devotees got to play them, and now Switch is systematically robbing the console of what small legacy it had. The silver lining to its demise is the catalogue of gems life-rafted to Switch – from Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker to the Bayonetta games, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe to the upcoming New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe.
Unwieldy titles aside, these ports have been a triumph, helping to plug gaps in the release schedule between new titles. With a whole new audience able to discover them, Nintendo’s utter failure to utilise the GamePad in any meaningful way means that – ironically – they can jump ship practically feature-intact; Miiverse integration is typically the biggest loss, although we’ve seen workarounds in the likes of Splatoon 2. With the new year approaching, we’ve rounded up the stragglers; the last glittering remnants yet to be salvaged from Wii U and given new life on Switch. We wouldn’t be surprised to see any of these announced this year, buoying up the big guns of Animal Crossing, Fire Emblem: Three Houses and (fingers crossed) Metroid Prime 4 in 2019.
Before we begin, though, let’s take a moment and pour one out for two games we doubt could ever make the jump to Switch – games which made use of asymmetric gameplay in genuinely interesting ways: please raise your glasses to the memory of Nintendo Land and Affordable Space Adventures. We had a lot of fun with the former at launch, and the latter is a real hidden gem which – for shame – will likely remain hidden forever. Sirs, we salute you.
Now, let’s loot!
Super Mario 3D World (Wii U)
First up, it’s the most colourful, vibrant video game you’re ever likely to play – the box art alone was a breath of fresh air on store shelves back in 2013. Super Mario 3D World is a perfect stepping stone between the 2D and 3D games from Nintendo’s Tokyo EAD team, introducing the world to Cat Mario and enabling four players to take control of Mario, Luigi, Peach and Toad (echoing the line-up from Super Mario Bros. 2). Truth-be-told, after the 360° freedom of the Galaxy games, 3D World’s contained level design and angular controls took a while to adjust to, but it wins you over with bounding enthusiasm and irrepressible energy. Five years back we awarded it a stonking 10/10, so of course we want to see this on Switch – it’s one of the jewels in Wii U’s crown.
The transition would be relatively painless, too. The touchscreen could still be used in handheld mode to seek out hidden items and its multiplayer focus would suit Switch down to the ground – the only notable loss would be blowing the Gamepad’s microphone to raise platforms. Yep, we’ll be having this thank-you-very-much. Zoink!
Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE (Wii U)
From the sublime to the wonderfully ridiculous, next up is Atlus’ Shin Megami Tensei/Fire Emblem crossover RPG which has you managing a showbiz idol career in contemporary Tokyo while teaming up with FE characters to battle mysterious baddies called Mirages. Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE released towards the end of Wii U’s voyage and consequently it only found a small audience, especially in the west. Those who did pick it up fell in love with its battle system and stylish blend of J-pop and classic RPG mechanics. A Switch port would give more people the opportunity to discover its charms, although it would require a little rejigging – the GamePad originally displayed your map and texts from your in-game phone. Sounds to us like a perfect opportunity for the Switch Online app to earn its keep as a second screen option on Switch (as an alternative to having them pop up on the main screen, of course). The original also lacked an English dub – not a problem, but it would be nice to see one added in a potential port.
The Wonderful 101 (Wii U)
Coming from famed director Hideki Kamiya and PlatinumGames, despite being well-received The Wonderful 101 kinda fell through the cracks of the early Wii U catalogue; one of those games you definitely would’ve picked up on offer, but probably didn’t get round to. Its unique gameplay melded aspects of Pikmin with the spirit of Viewtiful Joe (always A Good Thing™) and tasked you with assembling a group of heroes that battled more-or-less as one unit. An everything-and-kitchen-sink approach meant it could easily overwhelm players, especially at higher difficulties, but the core challenge of adding Wonderful Ones to your team and taking down ever-inventive obstacles and enemies is addictive, ultimately capturing you like Platinum’s games so often do. Beyond some handy touch gestures and a few sub-menus, a Switch port would lose little in translation and we’d love the opportunity to try it out again.
Pikmin 3 (Wii U)
The chance to play a proper Pikmin on-the-go is tantalising – Hey! Pikmin on 3DS didn’t sufficiently scratch that itch. Odd rumours that Miyamoto-san is sitting on a near-completed Pikmin 4 seem non-sensical to us, so we’d certainly welcome a port of Pikmin 3 while waiting for a bespoke entry. This second sequel brought winged and rock pikmin to the fold but added surprisingly little to the established template; HD was arguably the most significant addition to the series – those oranges and strawberries never looked so juicy and delicious! In terms of controls, we generally preferred using the Wiimote and nunchuck over the GamePad, and beyond losing the separate map screen, we see zero problems with this making the jump to Switch almost entirely intact.
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD (Wii U)
Okay, so now we’re onto ports of ports, but who in their right mind would turn down either of these on a handheld? The Wind Waker’s evergreen art style continues to charm the socks off anyone who plays it and it never looked better than on Wii U. The slightly aggressive bloom lighting isn’t to everyone’s taste, but it’s hard to argue with the numerous gameplay tweaks that helped tighten up the GameCube original. The off-TV mode of the HD remake shows it could function perfectly well on Switch, especially with the touchscreen in handheld mode. What’s not to like?
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess HD (Wii U)
The same goes for Twilight Princess. We’ve already seen videos of the game running on the Tegra X1-powered Nvidia Shield in China (the same chip lodged inside Switch’s innards), although we’d really prefer Wii U’s HD edition with the bells and whistles of gyro aiming, improved textures and amiibo support. This entry in the series divides gamers – despite having some excellent dungeons, the 3D ‘template’ laid down by Ocarina of Time was beginning to pall without Wind Waker’s distractingly beautiful cartoon style. Breath of the Wild has rightfully blasted the cobwebs from the series, but there’s still so much to love in the ‘traditional’ Zelda formula; what better way to pass the time while we wait for the next chapter?
Super Mario Maker (Wii U)
In 2015, HMS Wii U was in serious trouble, but still had some tricks up her sleeve as she began listing. Although not enough to save a sinking ship, Super Mario Maker gave Wii U her a string quartet; a touching farewell as the console slipped away. It’s a masterstroke of intuitive design and enables anyone to build, test and rebuild their perfect Mario levels, giving players a peak behind the curtain and an appreciation for the genius that goes into designing these games. It spawned a community that came up with some amazing creations, from the auto-play musical levels to intricate mazes that required advanced techniques and exploits to complete. A wonderful package for Mario fans of all ages, it garnered a well-deserved 10/10 from us.
Of course, that doesn’t mean a Deluxe edition couldn’t improve on the original – an option to chain levels together and create ‘worlds’ would be much appreciated, for starters, and how about Game Boy and Super Mario Bros 2 skins? By simply limiting level construction to handheld mode, Nintendo could solve the problem of cumbersome telly-based editing and it would play quite nicely from a marketing perspective – edit levels on the bus, come home and share them with the family!
Of course, Mario Maker already escaped Wii U’s watery grave in the form of the 3DS version; an impressive effort from the plucky handheld, although a somewhat-reduced take on the original. However, we’d be truly surprised if Switch didn’t dive down to rescue this final treasure from the cold depths where Wii U rests, allowing it to truly shine on a handheld system that’s in the prime of its life, thanks in no small part to the juicy morsels it continues to plunder from its predecessor.
Are there any remaining Wii U games you’d love to see jump ship to Switch? As always, let us know in the comments.
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If they do many more, they can probably start just claiming the Switch is backwards compatible.
@BornInNorway81 Hard to claim that when the best wreckage is shared.
Xenoblade. Chronicles. X.
Take my money.
Stop porting WiiU!!! Give us Wii and GameCube instead!
Where are Xenoblade Chronicles X and Fatal Frame?
I can’t imagine they’ll port Super Mario Maker at this point. It seems much more likely that we’ll get Super Mario Maker 2. Also, this list is suffering from a severe lack of Xenoblade Chronicles X.
Xenoblade?
Personally the thing I want ported most from Wii U to Switch at this point is the virtual console, but I certainly wouldn't say no to portable Wind Waker.
The Switch needs Xenoblade Chronicles X! There's easily hundreds of hours of content.
Enough with Wii U ports. Focus on fresh content.
Xenoblade Chronicles X
Deus Ex
Watchdogs
Need for Speed Most Wanted
Assassins Creed Black Flag.
I'm personally shocked they haven't ported Super Mario Maker. I'd buy that in a heartbeat and it deserves to have the huge audience on Switch that it didn't have on Wii U.
@Equinox Just slap Frontier Nav onto its own menu, and boom. It can just be Fast Travel a la XC2.
Make it happen Reggie! Help me out, here. If Capcom can come through with #MHXXForTheWest, Reggie can push through #XCXForTheRest!
@GrailUK I was gonna say, there are some third party gems that are stuck on the Wii U and could easily sell a lot better on the Switch. Besides the ones you mentioned,I'd also add Injustice (as a complete edition), Mass Effect 3 (with the addition of the first 2 if EA had any sense), Splinter Cell Blacklist, and maybe Tekken Tag tournament 2 if they don't want to put out a main series game
Mario 3D World needs a SEQUEL... it's one of the best co-op gaming experiences of my life.
Mario Maker is probably a huge pain in the ass for Nintendo... and it's not like they need a "system seller" for Switch right now... if it comes to Switch at all, it will probably be toward the end of the generation.
I would buy Tokyo Mirage, it's the only one I missed out of this list. Mario Maker makes the most sense though.
Woolly World and paper Mario colour splash
As a Wii U owner I don’t really need any Wii U ports. I have double dipped on a couple of titles like Mario kart but I have passed over some as well. I prefer unique new experiences although revisiting hyrule always intrigues me. Personally though I’d rather see a Mario maker sequel then a rerelease. Why I do understand why Nintendo did it in year one and two I just don’t see the need anymore. I agree with what others have said and would flip for some GameCube games or even a reimagining of punchout Wii for the switch
more Wii U ports?
alternate idea: no
What about Xenoblade Chronicles X?
@BornInNorway81 WiiU has no Super Mario Odyssey, Super Smash Bros. Ultimate nor Octopath Traveller
I'm a bit surprised the Zelda ports haven't come to the Switch yet.
SM3DW NEEDS to come to the system, although I don't see myself buying a fully priced port of a game I already own.
Also, a Fatal Frame collection, up to and including Maiden of Black Water.
@holygeez03 I completed Mario 3D World front to back with my girlfriend at the time, and it was one of the best gaming experiences of my life.
3D World and Color Splash are the only Wii u games I still want. I'm sure Maker will get a sequel eventually. So glad all the best games were ported to the switch so I didn't have to get a wii u.
i definitely vote for Xenoblade Chronicles X... this game suffered from being a WiiU game a lot...
Ports are nice and all, but Id prefer them to focus on newer games. Please Nintendo, recruit Next Level Games again to make another Mario Strikers game. Tennis is nice and all but football/soccer is definitely hitting bigger than a game like Aces.
Edit (2022): I guess they finally did it, huh.
Hard to argue with this list - would all be great games to bring over to bring them to a wider audience. Personally, I find it a bit baffling that Nintendo decided to bring New Super Mario Bros. U to Switch before 3D World or Mario Maker.
Great list actually. I would gladly double dip (triple for #FE) for all of these.
In a perfect world, the WiiU would have sold better, but it didn't so if Nintendo wants to give these great games a second chance to make some real sales I am all for it. (The more people that play #FE the better)
That being said I am a little confused by the offense on both sides at the suggestion of ports. Ports and remasters are a major part of every console generation. People that missed games, people with nostalgia, people that hated the previous system for whatever bandwagon reason (I will say I find it odd that people hate the wiiu but want the games...the library makes the system so....) the VC is literally a port service and people are almost demanding it. It isn’t like new games don’t come to the Switch and also 3rd party ports get us titles that we may not have had before as well. Skip the ports you don’t want by all means, but it is odd to pretend like it is something new to ask for them. Also it isn’t defending the wiiu’s honor to protest them. The wiiu didn’t sell. It’s sad and to this day I blame poor marketing and lukewarm 3rd party support, yet that doesn’t change the fact that it had a pretty impressive library (wiiu is one of my biggest libraries even now) and these are games that Nintendo can tap if they so choose.
They really need to reveal Mario Maker soon, whether its an enhanced port or full on sequel. The original had so much hype and that was on Wii U. Imagine how huge the game will be on Switch with even more players, more features, sharing level codes with ease through social media (Take a photo with the capture button) and so on?
I get it. I do. People said it would happen because literally almost no-one bought a Wii U, but I did.
I bought a Wii U, and all these games already.
Nintendo filling the gaps between new game releases with Wii U ports would not be tolerated if the Wii U was a more popular system.
New games please. New games.
If you're going to give us ports. Port some games that make it worth while, like some old GCN games.
I'm still waiting for my...
Luigi Mansion HD
Super Mario Sunshine HD
Fire Emblem Path of Radiance HD
Donkey Kong Jungle Beat HD
Star Fox Adventures HD
Star Fox Assault HD
Metroid Prime Trilogy HD
Paper Mario The Thousand Year Door HD
Kirby Air Ride HD
I would love to see Xenoblade X getting ported.
Edit: As long as we’re also getting new games, I don’t see why there’s a problem with ports?
I'm amazed Mario Maker hasn't already happened.
These are the Wii u games I want to see: NONE!!
New games please!!
@Equinox Didn't XCX have an off TV mode? I thought you just paused the game to look at the maps and use your beacon things(can't remember what they are called).
Yes, please. Many Switch owners didn't own a Wii U, so these would be great. Also remaster Mario Galaxy games from original Wii
Colour Splash never got a chance on the Wii U, definitely worth a port
Wind Waker and 3D World please.
You honestly think, creating levels in Super Mario Maker with the current mechanics, would work better in handheld mode?😂 It would work worse than on the 3DS.
yup they should port them all and the other last ones. Because all those games are far too good to be unknown by anyone who didn’t own a Wii U. This is why the Switch is drawing so many PS, XB, and PC fans: because they can experience a boatload of Nintendo quality titles.
Fatal Frame 5 (uncut)
Xenoblade X (uncut)
I agree Nintendo should hire a small studio to port some of these games while they focus on new stuff.
Definitely want Tokyo mirage sessions, but would also love to see the Zelda back catalogue make its way there (still need to play skyward sword!) And maybe the paper Mario series ported.
I think there's a huge opportunity for Nintendo (actually, squeenix, konami, sega and capcom also) for re-releasing old games still, they just need a schedule to follow
Super Mario 3D World deserves to be played by played by more people. I was one of those who was initially disappointed by it but it grew on me a lot. I enjoyed but didn't love my first playthrough but I went back to it and 100% it and it became one of my favourites. I like it better than Odyssey, which has never really grown on me as much as I want it to. I know now I prefer my Mario games to be more level based than open world.
ZombiiU ... loved that game. Bummer that a sequel was cancelled.
I would like a Wii remake, DKC Returns HD for Switch! Other than that, I agree with ports of Super Mario 3D World and Mario Maker.
I see that some people don’t like the “wreckage” tag line, where as I thought it was hilarious. Anyway, Xenoblade X and Twilight Princess seem like a good fit.
I only want to see a collection of the Zelda games and Super Mario 3D World.
You got a structure of Mario 3D World, and Odyssey assets.
I am surprised a sequel hasn't at least been teased by now.
Wonderful 101 needs ported, even Kamiya has said he talked to Nintendo about it.
The only ports I can see now are W101, Xenoblade X, Pikmin 3, TMS#FE, and a restructured Star Fox Zero. But that's going off of Wii U originals, that has yet to be even touching the subject of remastered and remade Wii and GCN ports. One of the rumors being F-Zero.
@roadrunner343 i agree and FEXSMT should definitely be brought over to the switch and get better sales then wat it did on the wii u.
TMS was actually such a good game which really deserves another chance
If gamers are desperate to play Wii u games then buy a Wii u, much cheaper than a Switch. And the Wii u games sell for a lot less than ported ones to the Switch.
Only Wonderful 101 has a shot at being ported to Switch IMO due to Kamiya's personal insistence.
Nintendo literally changed the ending of the Captain Toad Switch port to retcon out Mario 3D World from the "story". If that isn't an acknowledgement that they don't care much about Mario 3D World on Switch, then I don't know what is...
TMS #FE, Zelda Wind Waker/Twilight Princess HD, or Pikmin 3 probably won't get ported due to SMTV, Zelda Breath of the Wild, and the inevitable/oft-rumored Pikmin 4.
None.....
How about new games instead?!
I agree with this list, and I have no problem with ports, but I hope we don’t have another 2018. Nintendo spent the first 10 months of the year leaning very heavily on ports. Ports are fine in principle, but they should not be released in place of new games.
Well, Fatal Frame is bound forever to the Wii U I guess, like Nintendo Land. Its all gameplay was about the gamepad that you use as a camera.
Really don’t mind any ports that Nintendo release, the more the merrier. I do wish they’d come in a little bit cheaper than new releases tho.
Me and the other Xenoblade Chronicles X fans cry in the corner.
@Equinox: A XCX port is not impossible; it would just require a bit of a redesign in terms of menus and a few other things. Going off of a previous article, the real question is if Monolith Soft has the desire/resources to do it (or outsource to another studio for porting).
@thesilverbrick theres plenty of new games coming to switch in 2019 with only a few ports.
Give me The Devils Third!
I'd love to see all of these ported, but Mario Maker is easily my most wanted, even though I own the Wii U version.
@PrincessBowsette I realize that. I was just pointing out that the first 3/4 of first party releases in 2018 were mostly ports.
I think you will see Skyward Sword before either of the Zeldas on this list. I imagine eventually they will get here, but I think 2019 is a stretch. I can see Pikmin 3 close to the time of a Pikmin 4 announcement. Considering 4 is supposedly almost done (years ago), this one is the most likely. I don’t see Tokyo Mirage making it. The Wonderful 101 deserves a second chance. Mario Maker is a wildcard. The interface has to be done right, but 3D World will probably get the Delux treatment.
As for me, I’m like most and ready for new content. I’ll say this. These ports are great filler to keep Nintendo in front of gamers on the down months.
A new mario maker makes sense
@gortsi Totally in agreement. As much as I would love a Burnout on Switch, I would take Most Wanted.
Super Mario 3D World is the best Mario game ever made, and it's not even close. Can't wait for this one to make it to the Switch.
@BornInNorway81 Gotta say the Switch has alot better games then the Wii U not to mention far better third party support but aren't nothing wrong giving these Wii U games a 2nd chance/updated port.
Look at it this way, it makes them portable and it's not like Nintendo has never took games from an older console and re-released it on it's new system before same for Sony and Microsoft alot of the PS4 and XBone games in it's early years were just PS3 games with slight improvements.
Since we already know we're getting loads new games for 2019, I've got no qualms with any Wii U titles being brought to Switch.
I know there's many folks on this Nintendo-centric site that bought a Nintendo Wii U, but that's not the case everywhere. From 2007 to 2018, I got bored and went to Microsoft's platforms for most of my current gen game time. I got a Switch in March, followed by a Wii U after, and I've only played about 9 games on Wii U, with 4 of those being Wii/Gamecube ports themselves.
More games = more fun.
@NintyNate Two of them are GameCube games ya muffin.
Super Mario Yes, it's one of Nintendos best.
I think Twilight Princess issue was other than dungeons it failed to impress.
The trailers showed Hyrule as a vast open expanse. The final title arrived vastly cut down with texture work and some terrible character design that failed next to the N64's best. It was one of Gamecube's worst looking games.
I think it really was a disappointing generation for Nintendo, they just couldn't hit their stride. Super Mario Sunshine was their best attempt at 3D environments that gen.
I agree with this list for sure. Pikmin 3 was a bit short for my liking but oooooh is enjoyable of course. I’m really wishing for a Pikmin without a time limit. Like a less divisive version where it’s not focused on levels but rather open-worldly. Perhaps you could build a base and actually survive the night for example or... I don’t know. That being said, I am sooooo ready for a Pikmin 4. Another game I’d love to see on Switch is Star Fox Zero MINUS the need for motion controls. If those were made optional, I’d happily buy the game again, even for $60.
It's not like you have to buy these ports if you don't want them or already have the Wii U versions, it's giving people more option.
There's still plenty of new games coming out next year
and hey it could be worse, last year PS4 was getting PSP ports.. well they looked like ports and priced like a new ports but were just emulations http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2018/05/theres_a_psp_emulator_hidden_in_the_ps4_version_of_parappa_the_rapper
@zool
People want to play the Wii U's games. Nobody wants to play games on a Wii U.
There is a difference.
Star Fox Zero and . . . wait for it . . . TANK! TANK! TANK! ; )
I see Tokyo Mirage Sessions, I like.
Definitely a game I'd kill to have on Switch
From Wii U:
Twilight Princess HD
Wind Waker HD
Need for Speed Most Wanted U
Splinter Cell: Blacklist
Super Mario 3D World
Xenoblade Chronicles X
Yoshi's Wooly World
Paper Mario Color Splash
Wii U indies:
The Swapper
Stealth Inc. 2
Affordable Space Adventures
Thomas Was Alone
Pumped BMX+
Star Wars Pinball
From the Wii:
DKC Returns HD
Metroid Prime Trilogy HD
Metroid Other M HD
Skyward Sword HD
Punch Out HD
Super Paper Mario HD
Plus all VC games released between Wii & Wii U, & then some.
@MadeOutOfCake It’s not really relevant to Wii U remakes, but I second the vote for another Mario Strikers, the Wii iteration was great fun for local multiplayer.
@hatch They used multiple Switches in interesting ways with Mario Party Switch, so why not?
Xenoblade Chronicles X is sorely missing from this list.
Also not in the list I'd take Kirby and the Rainbow Curse, Yoshi's Woolly World, Star Fox Zero + Guard and Paper Mario Color Splash but I'm aware those are probably less likely.
@LUIGITORNADO Well Metroid Prime Trilogy was ported to the WiiU as an eshop game. With all the other WiiU games being ported, this one probably has the best chance on your list.
@westman98 I guess the hype has worked on you. 😁
New games please. If I could have 10 ports of games I’ve recently played or 1 new game I would ALWAYS pick 1 new game. Let’s not pretend they can click their fingers and bring a port over, they’ve got teams working on this. Get the team working on new stuff. I love Nintendo and I love new Nintendo games!
Xenoblade Chronicles X for me. Like the Twilight Princess remaster, it was something I missed on Wii U. I wouldn't mind XC1 as well, though I know that's been remastered on the New 3DS.
One or two of these games per year wouldn't hurt i guess. I rather they spend more time on new games after all
I'm sick of all these Wii U ports. A few of them made sense, but it's clear now that Nintendo is just being lazy. The biggest insult is the porting of NSMB U. There's no reason Nintendo can't make a brand new 2D Mario game. Please give us something new!
Nice list. I agree wholeheartedly
Just add Xenoblade Chronicles X and we are done
I’ve made my stance on Wii U ports clear already, so I’ll just add that I’d rather see Nintendo Life focus on new content rather than port begging and other hot takes that can easily be found anywhere on the internet. Make it your New Year’s resolution. Shake up your staff if you must. Also, Mario Maker wouldn’t work on the Switch.
I'll take all of these, especially Tokyo Mirage Sessions - heck, I might play it ahead of all the others since it is its own franchise and doubles as a "Persona 3 and henceforth" follower that isn't walled off by a binge backlog of almost three more games in my case. Also, we already know some of the status here (Monolith is very willing but still trying to get into Nintendo's wallet with this), but how did you guys omit Xenoblade Chronicles X?
On a side note... "give Wii U her a string quartet"? Is this a typo or some idiom I've yet to learn? Google doesn't seem to be helping.
Zelda and Mario games are a given, Xenoblade Chronicles X, Wonderful 101, Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE and maybe Fatal Frame 5, are the only Wii U I'd like to see ported to Switch, then that's it. I would like to see moregame remasters and remakes from older consoles though and ports of games that where never on a Nintendo console.
Also NL, your Switch app idea for TMS #FE sounds terrible, if they did that, I probably wouldn't get the game then, just make it manageable and put it on screen.
I'd rather have both Viewtiful Joe games than Wonderful 101.
@zool @Medic_alert but I already have a switch but I don't have a Wii u that it was s still very expensive. Also I cannot play those games on the go on Wii U
From that list I would only buy the Zelda HD remakes (and I would buy them both day one) and I would have XCX (even though it appears to be all the wrong changes in comparison with the two main line brothers
Yoshi's Woolly World. This time with compatible Pokémon amiibo functionality (and I don't mean giving you a generic amiibo Yoshi pattern). Still don't understand why the Pokémon ones of all things were not supported properly but whatever.
Also Super Mario Maker, this time with 100% more slopes.
I want to see these Wii U games on Switch :
1. F-1 Race Stars (with All DLC)
2. Super Mario Maker
3. Xenoblade Chronicles X
4. Paper Mario Color Splash
Very good list.
Mario Maker and Splatoon are the only ones left that I care about. Beyond that, Wii U can rot in console hell for all I care, the Switch’s lineup is far superior.
Really?? No Xenoblade X. Jesus Nintendo Life, i've lost all respect for you.
As The Notorious B.I.G. once said, “Gimme the loot”.
To be honest, I regret buying a Wii U. While there were games I enjoyed, now thst most of them have been ported to Switch, I feel like I could have just waited. Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze was great, but I'd live to play it on Switch. Although having completed it on Wii U, I'm not double dipping. I did buy Mario Kart 8 Deluxe because it's a great multiplayer game and I'd be tempted to get Mario 3D World if it gets ported as it would work great in local multiplayer on the Switch. Yoshi's Wooly World seems like it's gonna be surpassed by Yoshi's Crafted World. And I hated Star Fix Zero.
This has been a common answer already, but - easily Xenoblade Chronicles X.
My next one - Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge. If Team Ninja would just port over the entire trilogy to the Switch...if only...
If we do get Tokyo Mirage Sessions, I hope we get it uncensored. And maybe a few mor costumes and/or a few extra optional missions.
No more ports.
Fresh new ones.
101 follow up id buy in an instant Better graphics, fresh gameplay etc.
im sick of ports, i want fresh meat.
A port of Pikmin 3 is a huge please. Whilst waiting for Pikmin 4 we could enjoy this game till then.
No one even mentions the game we need ported from Wii U the most, by far, without any doubt: Wii Party U.
I'll go will kill myself.
I agree on TMS and W101 since they need to make a better performance to guarantee a sequel, but I rather have a new 3D world, Mario Maker, Pikmin 4 and an HD port of Skyward Sword, or a bundle that includes WW, TP and SS HD, but it's Nintendo so including 3 major Zelda games in a single cartridge is not very plausible.
@ClassSonicSatAm mmmm muffins ... Yeah I know but I don't want to own the same game a 3rd or 4th time... Really want Metroid Prime Trilogy HD
Super Mario 3D world sequel would be amazing to have on the Switch.
People saying they want new games instead of ports: there will be new games as well! Have you seen what’s been announced? Why can’t we have both?
Sigh...
Wonderful 101 please. My most played game got the wii u by far.
Keep the trash that is Tokyo Mirage Sessions in the dumpster fire that it belongs and away from the Switch. Absolutely insulting to both Shin Megami Tensei and Fire Emblem.
@Quarth instead of having teams working on ports, why can’t they have those teams working on new games? I’d take one new game over ten ports.
I'm stilling hoping to see that Tokyo Mirage Sessions and Wind Waker get ported to the Switch. I'd gladly double dip for those in a heart beat.
@BornInNorway81 it really is baffling at this point how Nintendo has not yet put a proper browser and a few more apps on Switch. What's it possibly taking away from at this point?
Aside from this, my 5 year old has recently gotten me back into my Wii U as there's no way I'm letting him play the stuff on my Xbox. And man... what an amazing system by Nintendo standards. I truly believe all they had to do was not name it Wii U and allow for a technology that would have afforded the Gamepad to be more portable, and we could be sitting here in a reality where the Switch doesn't even exist. Hell, even a slight adjustment like calling it 'Wii 2' would have done wonders for perception.
@Bevinator I don’t think it take that much effort porting a game (depends on how much that needs to change) and I bet it’s not the A teams that are working on the ports. Either way, we’re getting new games... Luigi’s Mansion, Animal Crossing, Bayonetta, Metroid Prime, Pokémon, Yoshi, Fire Emblem, Daemon X Machina, a new Monolith Sogmft game, etc. And there are probably a lot of games they’re working on that we don’t know about yet. Why not bring out some ports in the meantime? Looking forward to NSMBUDeluxe.
I’d like to play Woolly World again without turning on the clunky Wii U, so that please. 🙏
Also, ports and new games can coexist peacefully.
@subpopz Most importantly, a portable system.
1. Wind Waker HD
2. Twilight Princess HD
3. Super Mario 3D World
4. My old Virtual Console games.
I wish I could get these on my Switch, then I could finally retire my Wii U.
Paper Mario Color Splash, Tokyo Mirage Sessions, and Xenoblade X are the ones I missed on the Wii U and would definitely pick up, I'd also love to pick up everything else on this list as well
@NintyNate That's a bit hypocrite aren't it? You don't want Wii U ports but do want Wii/Game Cube ports? like I said, the two Zelda Wii U ones, are remakes of the Zelda GC games
No one is asking you buy every game Nintendo puts out, just buy the games you want, like I said we got alot of new games in 2019.
at the end of the day all Nintendo is doing is giving people more choice, missed or want to play the Wii U gems? then here you in portable Switch format. this sort of thing isn't new worst thing Nintendo could do is leave these games be tied to the almost forgotten Wii U
I could probably safely say that if the two Zelda games alone were ported to Switch I'd be comfortable getting rid of my Wii-U.
@Quarth I suppose we should agree to disagree.
I’m assuming a basic game would take a couple of years to make. I’m assuming a port would take a couple of months? I would take one new game over numerous ports which could be done in the same time frame. Cheers
@Bevinator That’s fine.
Thy won’t port Mario Maker, they’ll do a sequel. Being able to easily design levels on the go, along with the much bigger Switch userbase, should mean a bigger community that can take it beyond ‘cult title’
XCX, Pikmin 3, Tokyo Mirage and Yoshis Wooly World ( in a few years presumably) would be very welcome. 3D World isn’t a great Mario game but is still a very good game compared to most and would make sense, especially as they’d have to get rid of the stupid ‘blowing on the Gamepad’ bits.
No point porting Paper Mario or Starfox as they’re bad even by Wii U standards. Wonderful 101 I also hated but some people like it so a port might happen. Maybe more than 28 people will buy it on a better system.
Let’s face it, the best thing about the Wii U was being able to hack it. The sooner they get the worthwhile Wii U games on the Switch the sooner those of us unfortunate enough to buy one can forget about it.
@Bevinator Easy. Ten ports sell copies of games while the one game is being developed. BotW had a six year development, and no one is putting out a Mario Odyssey every year. We got Smash this year and Fire Emblem next year. There has to be something else going on besides huge first party releases, and ports/remasters are perfect. Fans of the originals can buy in, and mew players experience the classics.
I feel like you’re the guy in the back of the room saying we don’t need a portable Diablo or Skyrim. No one needs that kind of negativity.
Considering how costly and time consuming game development is now ports are a cheap and fast way of bolstering a systems library. So the more the merrier! Mario Maker and Pikmin 3 take my wishlist picks.
On a fairly related subject I'm amazed that Kirby Cavas Curse sequel didn't end up on 3DS (and it's not likely to now) but oh well.
i just want Xenoblade Chronicles X and Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE. as for the others, im likely gonna skip unless i really need them that much on Wii U or Switch.
@OorWullie I feel tge exact same way, I love all 3D Mario games but for some reason Odyssey isn't as fun as I thought it would be, it lacks a lot of magic. In the open world we're getting very little variety overall but especially musically, there are no memorable tunes whatsoever, compare that to Galaxy, I can basically recognize all the galaxies by their own separate music. Glad to see I'm not the only one
@Octorok385 sounds great if you are a shareholder. I prefer new Nintendo games.
Funnily enough I rebought Skyrim because I thought I’d have more use out of it in portable. I didn’t really get back into it.
I’m not hating on anyone that regularly rebuys games though good luck to anyone that does that. Honestly hope you enjoy them.
Just feels like they are giving us some ports instead of new games rather than as filler. For example NSMBU
Thankfully I was lucky enough to encounter Tokyo Mirage Sessions but it wasn’t easy to track down with little to no marketing. Only found it because my sister is a big Fire Emblem and Persona fan and I got her it to surprise her last Christmas.
I wish it was ported to Switch too so I could have a copy.
Great list. I would like to see these games on the Switch. I don't care for Wii and Gamecube games on the Switch since I still use my gen 1 Wii but I would like to see Starfox Zero on the switch with more streamlined controls. I really fee that game suffered from gimmicky controls and the limited install base of the Wii U.
I don't want a Super Mario Maker port or deluxe. I want a sequel. Even if it's not drastically different or more content-packed than the first, there's enough potential. Add slopes, improve the sharing system, add another graphic style or so, some new premade levels and skins. After that, we're good.
I could consider buying 3D World again for the switch. Loved that game on WiiU.
I’m not exactly asking for Wii U ports here, but I would gladly take Super Mario 3D World. I’ll definitely get it if it comes to Switch. Maybe throw in some new levels, new characters to play as such Daisy, Wario, Toadette, etc. Add online play. Hmm, I think I just described a sequel.
@Bevinator I mean, for better or for worse Nintendo does have share holders. They aren’t a charity or an artistic non-profit, they’re a business. They need revenue in between major releases, and it’s not like other companies don’t cash in on their archive of material. Books and movies constantly get rereleases in different formats.
The problem is that Nintendo can’t develop and manufacture all of their own hardware while also putting out a new first party release every month. We get a few big releases a year, and if third parties can spin old games into remasters than that’s swell. If it keeps Nintendo profitable and introduces great games to a broader audience I don’t see any problem.
@Octorok385 I’ve got to be honest I agree with all that. I just find it personally frustrating, especially when it feels like we are getting a port from a series instead of a new game. That’s all.
@Katelyn1223 exactly - so many took the bait too! Ha
I understand you left out Xenoblade Chronicles X to get more comments. Apart from that, I think Yoshi's woolly world and NES Remix belong here. Zombi U was great too, even though that was Ubisoft.
@CharlieSmile
I second that. 3D World is at the top of my list for best Mario. Would love to see it make the Switch!
I'd rather have new games than Wii U ports since I really can't justify paying full price for games I've already played before. Despite Mario Kart 8 being my best MK game and one of my best games on the Wii U, I still haven't gotten around to getting MK8D, and I don't think I will for a long time. At the end of the day, I think I and many others just want Nintendo to focus on making new experiences for the Switch. Not sure why that's a bad thing.
With that said, I do approve of a 3D World port. That game is just amazing from start to finish and needs to be played by more people. It shouldn't even be said that the Switch is the perfect console for the game. It should be quite obvious. I wouldn't get the game (certainly not at full price), but if more people get to play that game, then I'm fine with it.
I'd also like to see a Star Fox Zero port. I really liked the game, and I'd like to see Nintendo give the game a second chance on Switch. Making motion controls optional and putting in an online mode would do wonders in changing public perception of the game, I'd wager. Maybe throw in new planets and all that and I'd actually be willing to pay full price for the game. Call it "Star Fox Zero: Point One" and it'll probably be my game of the year.
While as a Wii U owner I would see the focus on fresh games, I would buy up again Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE in a heart beat. This game was Persona light, but so much more manageable with my adult responsibilities!
How about making sequels to these games instead?
@Equinox you can play xenoblade X on the wiiu gamepad, they could do the same on the switch. Put a button to toggle frontiernav
One word: Miiverse
Nintendo would be heavily criticized re-releasing Twilight Princess HD and Wind Waker HD as standalone titles. The graphics are outdated. Wind Waker looks fine, but it would be compared to Breath of the wild. It would be acceptable only as "VC games", like it was for Wii games on Wii U (15-20 dollars with discounts).
I'm a huge Xenoblade fan (really), last month I turned on my Wii U just to check the game again after almost 2 years and still looks excellent to me. But... Unfortunately I think Monolith would have more success investing their people in Xenoblade 3 than porting Xenoblade X... it is really a massive game and I would buy again on Switch.
Same with Mario 3D World... played that a lot, but the investiment would not make any sense after Mario Odyssey. And was a hit in Wii U.
DK Tropical Freeze didn't reach all its sales potential, so a re-release was very fine.
Same with Mario Maker... it's an online game... maybe not competitive like Splatoon or Mario Kart, but still an online game, with fresh content, "famous designers" and challenges. So that makes sense too.
Even StarFox... it flopped. It was a bomb and is not a massive game, so a re-release would be nice.
Paper Mario? Well... the Wii U version didn't make justice for the series...so... they can keep the ink and paper concept, but in a new game.
@Franklin I figured it would be a surprise announcement when Nintendo Online started. Definitely would've motivated people to buy it more than the NES collection(which I love but I get why some folks don't)
Am I weird if I disliked The Wonderful 101 more than Zero? Get rid of the motion controls and stupid tablet and Zero is great. The only problem is the controls.
I would rather them move on or work on bringing the GameCube stuff forward. But then I am still playing the Wii U and would rather more games on the system (in fact I am still picking up Wii/Wii U titles).
Is it rude, during the festive season to point and laugh at people? Even people who say ‘I’d rather have new games or sequels’?
Because it astonishes me that there are people out there who actually think ports and new games take he same amount of effort, time and resource. Not the same thing, people, not the same.
I agree with the list except for Mario Maker. We don't want a port of that one, but a new and improved one.
AND you forgot Xenoblade X! How dare you??
Would definitely purchase a Super Mario 3D World Deluxe version.
I do want a Windwaker HD port, but beyond that nothing actually.
I also want a Super Mario Maker 2, instead of a lazy port of the Wii U game.
(Longer levels, more themes, more games (add Super Mario Bros 2), oh yes and SLOPES)
Paper Mario: Color Splash please!
@datamonkey please NO! I hate the sticker mechanics. I want a real Paper Mario RPG on the Switch.
@IHateTombs Yes, that's why Nintendo is rereleasing them (even Sony and MS rereleased a lot of prev. gen games on the current gen) it's a quick gap filler. You can't push out a brand new game each month.
I'd personally like Xenoblade Chronicles X and Starfox Zero: non-Gamepad Controls Edition to come over to Switch more than anything.
Fatal frame is missing like hell!!!
Mario Maker hasn't and won't come to the Switch due to fact it simply wouldn't work well without the second screen. I don't know why people are still expecting it at this point.
@smashboy2000 And I was hoping to see that Tall Woman ghost on my Switch!
I loved 3D World a lot, and I 100% the heck out of it with company. I’ll sit easy with that memory if a Switch port never happens.
@Kenology Star Fox Zero: Non-Gamepad Controls Edition! I like it!
I wouldn’t mind seeing the Nes Remix games either!! They were fun in short bursts!
I loved Wonderful 101. I'd absolutely buy it again on Switch
@nhSnork “String quartet” is referring to the Titanic’s sinking, but I also see a typo, now that you point it out!
I guess 2019 looks pretty solid on new games for the first time ever, unless Nintendo somehow screws that up and can't release games like Animal Crossing in the year like they promised.
As long as they release those games, I guess I don't mind some ports this year, but I really don't want to speak too soon. 2018 has been such a bad year with so little new to play.
I mean, NSMBU being the first port is already setting the year off to a bad start. The SMTxFE game is the one I might be interested in. During the Wii U years I wasn't interested in the SMT series and I didn't see what the game had to do with FE. Now that I've played and loved Persona 5, I might be interested.
Just put everything on the Switch and be done with it. I'll pay for it at least. XD
I hope they port every single game from the Wii U. Every last one.
Every time I see somebody angry, I know it’s because they just hate Wii U being made even more irrelevant. I enjoyed the system thoroughly during its time. It had some great games and that should be acknowledged. But it was a disaster in a number of respects, and so few people got to play those excellent games it had. So line em up...
Pikmin 3
Xenoblade Chronicles X
Super Mario 3D World
Wonderful 101
Mario Maker will get a sequel, so I don’t think it’ll see a port. Zelda Windwaker and Twilight Princess probably won’t come to Switch, because they’ll want to save those for a future system. They already released on GC, Wii and Wii U, so I think they’ll want to give those games a break this generation so that they can use them next generation. Skyward Sword is my bet for Zelda.
What? No love for Xenoblade Chronicles X? For shame Nintendolife. For shame
Paper Mario collor splash
Affordable space adventures was the best use of the hardware 100%, if Nintendo made their own games that utilised the Gamepad in the same way people would have noticed and bought the damn thing!
Colour Splash
@Euler
Desiring a game to come to a system isn’t “begging”. Begging is literally what it sounds like. “Please please bring this game, please we really really really want it... pleaaaaaase?”
That’s begging.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with saying you want a game on a certain platform.
@Medic_alert
So far, for new exclusive games in the pipeline include
No More Heroes
Yoshi Crafted World
Daemon X Machina
Fire Emblem Three Houses
Animal Crossing
Luigi’s Mansion 3
Pokémon
Town
Metroid Prime 4
Bayonetta 3
SMTV
Pikmin 4
I’d say we’ve got plenty of new games on the way. But that doesn’t mean they should just shut off the Wii U port faucet. It doesn’t matter how many new games they have in the pipeline, there’s always room for more great games. There’s always room for more ports.
If anything I’d like to see them maintain the frequency of ports released in 2018. Every other month, drop a new one. When they run out of Wii U games to bring, start bringing GameCube and Wii. Skyward Sword, Metroid Prime Trilogy, Baten Kaitos Collection, etc.
@Medic_alert
Which is why it makes sense, and why every company in the industry churns out ports. A port takes a fraction of the effort of a new game. Often less as with the framework in place the actual porting can be farmed out.
I actually think Nintendo have struck a good balance. No matter what the complainers May claim, their new games on Switch far outweigh the ports. And continue to do so in the future.
Really want TMS. The only Wii U game I regret not getting, especially seen as I’ve gotten much more into Persona recently
@LunarFlame17 I could imagine something like a Super Mario Maker 5 year anniversary edition that combines Wii U and 3DS-Features and adds one or two new skins/playstyles.
Nintendo is not Square Enix. Most Nintendo games seem to take 1-3 years to develop. (I doubt Captain Toad started until the development of SM3DW ended, all the Smash Bros. games were developed in 2-3 years with the exception of Brawl that seemed to start about 2004) . Zelda is really the only series to have an overly long development time.
I never understand people moaning about Wii U ports. It’s not like the Mario team is being told: ‘No, don’t make Odyssey 2. You have to port a Wii U game.” They outsource the ports, or to developers in-between projects, and it is done in tandem.
It’s not like Switch owners are getting Wii U ports instead of new games. They are getting Wii U ports AND Switch games.
And considering by March there will be close to 30 million Switch owners that don’t own a Wii U, it makes sense for these Wii U commercial flops to get a second life.
I know I barely played my Wii U. And as a huge fan of Pikmin and Zelda, I would love to give them another play.
I’d like to see Super Mario 3D World & Mario maker. Don’t care about the rest. Maybe add Mario Paper & original Xenoblades to the list as well.
I think Mario Maker would be a good addition to the Switch lineup. Personally, aside from Wonderful 101, what I'd really like to see is Xenoblade Chronicles X.
@Medic_alert
I think even 2 "big sellers" in a year is normal. There's only so many "big seller" games in existence. The vast majority of games are not "big sellers". The bulk of any library consists of the intermediate sellers. So we should focus on those, since that's the bulk of any library. Any "big sellers" is just one or two games a year.
Even discounting the unknown dated games, theres still enough 2019 games for a brand new exclusive game every 2 months, and that's without counting new announcements (2019 hasn't even begun yet) or ports.
A new exclusive game every month is not a reasonable expectation. It's too much. Even a game a month counting ports is pushing the limits of feasibility. So perhaps the issue here isnt the output, but rather expectations that need to be dialed back down to reality a bit. Nintendo is big, but they're not that big. You'd need nearly 50 mega studios working on new games round the clock to ensure a new exclusive game every month. Not even EA is that big.
Half a dozen new, exclusive games each year is a more realistic expectation supported by historical evidence. With maybe 7 new games a year, and 3 or 4 ports each year, they can at least come close to averaging a game a month. But they're not all gonna be new. Which... is fine, even coming close to 1 game/month on average is a record breaking pace to release games, and it wouldn't be possible without some ports. That's just the realistic constraints of a company their size.
Guess the author of this article forgot about XCX. Edit this article and add that please.
Super Mario Maker 2 would be awesome, but i could settle with the wii u version being ported to switch until it happens.
I skipped the Wii U and sort of burned out during the mid to late Wii days. So while I don't think any of these are necessary anymore. I do think they would make for good filler during the slower months. Especially since the Switch has already passed the Wii U's lifetime sales. So we're definitely getting a lot of people who never touched the Wii U coming in.
The ones I think would do the best would probably be Mario Maker, any of the Zelda games, any of the Mario games, and Pikmin. I personally wouldn't mind Wonderful 101, Xenoblade Chronicles X, Tokyo Mirage Sessions, and so on. Too many to list.
But if I had to wish for something really hard, it would be a Star Fox Zero port, with a more traditional control scheme. A friend got me to play it, and while it didn't necessarily make it unplayable. It didn't really do much to make my experience with the game that great.
I'm a hardcore Starfox fan, and I'd welcome a passable Starfox game at any point. The last time it feels like I got that was Starfox Assault, and that one was far from perfect. So I'm really hungry for a decent one.
@BornInNorway81 so far, the wii u has been the best Nintendo console yet. And yes, I've been here since the nes days. Switch is doing a great job though. Lots to play, great games to play... I've enjoyed the wii u from the first day on.
I think the switch will pass the wii u in time, in terms of quality content. You're right to defend it however - the wii u is a great system, I've enjoyed it an awful lot:)
Ranty comment, I just want a new pikmin game. Sigh.
@BornInNorway81 Not in any possible way "The Wii U still has better games than Switch". You probably don't own a Switch or if you do you have not checked the Switch e-shop lately.
Wahuuuu. Wiii u
@subpopz Well said.
@electrolite77 A bit rude maybe, but it's definitely a silly argument. We're getting exactly as many games as we'd get otherwise; the ports are just nice extras that give those who missed those fantastic games a second chance at them. Of course, it wouldn't be the gaming community if some people didn't find things to gripe about while making up conspiracy theories.
@subpopz Great post!
I’m one if those who never owned a Wii U (mostly because I previous to the Switch only played on handheld consoles) and for me this is awesome: great games that gets a second chance to shine AND new exclusive games for the Switch. What’s there to complain about, really?
I guess I’m the only Rainbow Curse fan ): That game deserves better than the Wii U gamepad display. It would look great on Switch
Wii U Sports club reworked for Switch motion controls would be cool.
I don't understand the opposition to porting more Wii U games like that'll interfere with new games. Nintendo has separate divisions dedicated to each of these tasks and the progress of one doesn't hinder the other. You're getting great new games, while getting updated versions of games you know and love. Why change that? Creating a brand new game from scratch will take a VASTLY longer time to make than just porting a game from one console to another, so may as well enjoy updated versions of our favorite last gen games while waiting for a brand new Nintendo game? I think porting other games over is a great idea as a tie consumers over throughout the year until a AAA Nintendo title hits.
Also I'll bet anything Mario Maker will hit Switch in 2019.
@TossedLlama And 1 & 2. All on Switch Online.
@Equinox i played it on pro controller without problems. Think the "-" brought up gamepad screen on tv screen.
Not Wii U, but I want a HD port/remaster of Metroid Prime Trilogy.
Still waiting on Conduit 3.
@Equinox how would it be hard to port XCX without the gamepad? I played almost entirely in off tv mode and had no problems.
People seriously need to drop this "I bought a Wii U/already bought 'so and so Wii U game(s)' so stop porting Wii U games" mentality. It should be blatantly obvious that people who owned a Wii U are in the vast minority. Seriously, less than 15 million sold worldwide, the Switch matched that in what, 6 months?
And I'm a Wii U owner and fan myself, still think it's underrated for the library itself. At the same time, I can understand why many gamers skipped it/didn't knew it existed and the Switch is the perfect opportunity to give these games a second chance. I myself would love to pick up games.like W101 and Tokyo Mirage Sessions since I never got around to picking those up originally.
@Prk525 yeah, glad to know someone still loves that game (or at least knows it exists.)
@JaxonH A distinction without a difference. It’s just as annoying either way. You want a game, buy the machine that plays it.
Well... Fine? Switch is filled with WiiU games right now and I'm getting kinda sick of it. While there are certain WiiU games that absolutely need to be ported (Xenoblade Chronicles X and Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE coming to mind, Pikmin 3 after Pikmin 1 and 2 would be available through the much-anticipated VC), some of the ports are useless. NSMBU? Seriously? Nintendo could easily make a new one or port any NSMB and it would be fine (I'd personally like to see NSMBWii rather than the WiiU one). SM3DW is also unnecessary, they can make a new one using the same assets from the previous game.
I'd rather see Virtual Console or remasters/remakes of N64/GC/Wii/3DS titles. Come on, give me that F-Zero GX fix. Port the two Luigi's Mansion games onto the Switch. The first Xenoblade Chronicles and The Last Story. Hell, I want to play Super Mario 64, Sunshine and Galaxy in HD. Four Swords Adventures. Sega games on the GC were also a blast, especially Skies of Arcadia Legends. As a Harvest Moon fan, the GC and Wii ones are very much welcome.
You have so many console generations and yet you just port games from the direct predecessor. I get you, Nintendo, it's easier to just do a one-on-one port of a game a small amount of people played rather than doing an actual remaster/remake, but come on. It's not like actually nobody bought the WiiU.
Like seriously, the Switch's lifespan just started. You can port the games in the following years, you don't have to do it in a single year.
I did own a Wii U, but it was underused and totally a waste of money. The only game I had from that list was 3D World, so what can I say... Bring them all!
For all I care Nintendo could port all and every single game they released on the Wii U and those still be new games to me, so I hope they keep bringing in ports. Lots of ports.
I know that making these ports has no effect whatsoever on the development of new games, so it’s a win-win situation for me and all those who never had a Wii U.
@Euler
Theres a very big difference, actually. One is begging... the other is not. Pretty straight forward.
Its simple. We live in a consumer driven supply demand society. When consumers want something, they say so. Producers react and supply what the market demands.
Maybe people dont want the game. They want the game ON SWITCH. If it's not on Switch they dont want it, and for a multitude of various reasons. From Switch being their main console, Switch being the only hybrid, Switch offering the only handheld version, and some people just dont want to buy another console. Some people DO own another console to play it, but they STILL want it on Switch. I own every console ever created in the last 15 years. I still want every game on Switch. It's not about just "playing the game", it's about playing the game in the way you prefer on the platform you prefer.
In which case, people are going to (rightfully) say so. If that annoys you, stay off the internet.
A big thumbs up for Wind Waker HD and Tokyo Mirage #FE. I'd add Yoshi Wooly World and Fit U to the list.
@Euler
“You want a game, buy the machine that plays it.”
Euler there, saying that the people who greenlit the likes of The Likes of Us Remastered, GTA V, most of Nintendo’s GBA library and Halo MCC we’re wrong to create those games that people wanted enough to pay actual money for.
All of these titles... gosh, I want them all!
@Kevember
“Nintendo has been putting out all of these ports instead of new games. ”
Really? Got a source for that?
@SWATlozar
So to sum up, you hate ports unless it’s ports you want?
There's actually quite a few Wii and Wii U games that I genuinely think should come to Switch. Can't be bothered listing them but I'm sure everyone can think of a bunch.
I have no real issue with the ports, I see it as they're giving quality games that never got the shine they deserved another chance for people to see what gems they were missing out on, and to way over twice the audience. And in some cases they're outperforming the Wii U versions so it's win win from a business perspective.
Some might sink and some might do well but it's low financial risk to port something that can sell millions, in a time when big software companies are spending ridiculous amounts on games and losing money hand over fist and monetising them heavily to recoup the costs.
@SWATlozar "You have so many console generations and yet you just port games from the direct predecessor. I get you, Nintendo, it's easier to just do a one-on-one port of a game a small amount of people played rather than doing an actual remaster/remake, but come on. It's not like actually nobody bought the WiiU."
When was the last time you saw a New "U" be sold-FYI they don't make them anymore. "Clue"
@SWATlozar "Like seriously, the Switch's lifespan just started. You can port the games in the following years, you don't have to do it in a single year."
Man the koolaid must be strong there. "U" has stopped production and your reply clearly shows why your not in the business of Game console development or game productions.
Xenoblade X Online MMO
You forgot to include Xenoblade Chronicles X and Paper Mario: Color Splash. I'd loved to see a Xenoblade Chronicles X Deluxe Edition, and Paper Mario VI.
If people had bought the Wii U to enjoy it's library instead of port begging now the Wii U would have been more successful.
@Medic_alert those games are old ports for few and new games for away more people... Also is ludicrous to say that those ports are in exchange for new games as ports take way less development (basically the difference was to have more months without Nintendo content and not more new games)
@BornInNorway81 You make a good point switch is under powered. But I didn't really like tokyo or xenoblade X. (I didn't like Xenoblade 2 but loved the 1st one when i played it on 3ds). I didn't buy octopath but that in my mind would be a better game than tokyo or Xenoblade. As for mario 3d world versus the new Mario game in 2017 don't even get me started on that i think 2017 one is loads better. And then there's Mario kart 8,donkey kong and all the ports already here. So in my mind switch has better games but to each his own and everyone deserves a opinion. Also i played tokyo and didn't like it after about 2 chapters it got way to confusing. And i played both demos of octopath.
@ClassSonicSatAm I couldn't understand the first sentence dude lol ... GameCube and Wii games were better and not in HD, they could really benefit! ... WiiU games had HD and the switch ports have zero change really
I'd rather have a complete Virtual Console (Wii and Wii U). Even better, the option of downloading previously purchased games for FREE based on your Account Activity.
@Kevember “Seriously? Take a look at the release schedule since the Switch came out. 3 of the 5 top selling games are ports for crying out loud!”
How does this prove Nintendo is cancelling new games to release more ports? (And why are you counting Splatoon 2 as a port?)
“Also take a look at PR resources they put into the ports; they treat them as though they were new games. Don't make me have to explain this stuff dude.”
How does this prove Nintendo is cancelling new games to release more ports?
No Xenoblade Chronicles X?
@OorWullie
I totally agree. The special worlds in 3D World were my favorite. They were actually challenging. I prefer Mario games to be about jumping rather than exploration. I have barely played Odyssey although it is graphically beautiful.
I'd buy the two Zelda games... again!
Xenoblade X, Fatal Frame and Tokyo mirage are my would buy ports on switch. Give us Skyward sword from wii. Id love a Zelda 3D collection from n64 to wii U remasters. From Gamecube eternal darkness (not sure what the rights issues would be) and the metroid primes 1 & 2 (and 3 from wii) would be great in hd.
I can't say enough good things about Tokyo Mirage Sessions
@Kevember
3 of the 5 top selling games are ports for crying out loud!
Just to chime in here... that’s precisely the point. That’s precisely the point. They are top selling games because there are a ton of people who want them on Switch. And the whole point is to release games that people want.
Also take a look at PR resources they put into the ports; they treat them as though they were new games
Actually... that doesn’t seem to be the case. For the most part they don’t really advertise the ports aside from social media, Youtube and other methods of free PR. There might be one or two exceptions to that, namely Mario Kart, but by and large we’ll be lucky if they even mention them in a direct before they release. I imagine they might promote NSMBU as well, just given the fact it’s Mario, but even then I haven’t seen any paid promotion for it yet. It’s barely even received one official YouTube video.
That said, if they do decide to promote them with paid ads, then I say good for them. Because there is a massive audience on the Switch for which these games are absolutely brand new. And they should be advertised as such to those people. Here’s a game you haven’t played yet. Here’s why you should be excited for it. Here’s when it releases.
The Switch has been getting lots of Wii U games, so I think it is time for the Wii U to get a few Switch games.
Aqua Moto Racing Utopia and Battle Princess Madelyn count I guess, but I could go for some first party releases.
I'm surprised Ubisoft hasn't ported ZombiU over since it's went to PS4 and Xbox One already.
If nothing else, please port Wind Waker HD. That game deserves to be released on a successful console!!!
@electrolite77
I think Nintendo didn’t have a good balance this year. Aside from nov and December. Nintendo pretty much went back to Wii U days. Indies disguised the lack of new games for the switch most of the year.
@Kevember The number of people who both a) owned a Wii U, and b) bought and played the games listed are an extremely small, irrelevant minority.
@8bitforever Nintendo has not exactly been releasing stuff at a fast pace. I understand from the business perspective, but I sorta feel burned for supporting the system when nobody else did. It would be cool if they did these as Nintendo Selects later on I'm at least made it somewhat worthwhile for us like mk8d or even Dktf to an extent.... Captain Toad, NSMBU and Bayonetta give us very little reason to buy again for those who already own these
@Mgene15 dude there were plenty of games for the switch this year and most of them were 3rd party rpg games plus some ports but it was no where near as bad like the wii u situation where there were barely any games coming out on monthly basis.
@Kevember Except they do agree with me. Switch hardware sales agree with me. The software sales of the ports that have already released agree with me - every single one of them has outsold their Wii U counterpart. It's nothing personal, it's just business.
I've never played a Star Fox game since the SNES, and I never beat it.
I would love to have StarFox Zero on Switch. I understand that it was one of the FEW games that actually required the gamepad, so it wouldn't be just your normal port. The DEVs would actually have to put some work to get its gameplay running on a single screen lol.
Wii U had a lot of great games. There was just a lack of mainstream third party games.
3D World is really all I care about and probably the only one I'll be getting out of the games on the list. Wind Waker and Twilight Princess would be fantastic additions to the library though.
And anyone who thinks the Wii U is really in any way superior to the Switch at this point is just trying to justify their purchase for the system. I loved the Wii U at the time but it's hard to deny that the Switch is miles better in every aspect (excepting the Virtual Console, obviously). Even the Wii U ports are better simply because of the portability aspect. The fact that I've been able to take a game like Tropical Freeze wherever I want in my house as opposed to being restricted to one room has allowed me to play more games that I wouldn't really want to otherwise.
Also, why does everyone think that Wii U ports take time away from newer games? The devs at Nintendo aren't saying "well, can't work on a new 2D Mario because we're too busy exhausting all our resources on NSMBU Deluxe!"
People really need to stop saying "no Wii U ports" and "Switch has no new games" because these arguments are just for laughs and shows total ignorance of reality.
I'd welcome all of these, actually i'd welcome every single Wii U exclusive to come to Switch eventually, so i'd add these to the list -
Paper Mario:Colour Splash (a huge improvement over SS but sadly overlooked by many)
Fatal Frame 5
Kirby Rainbow Curse
Starfox Zero
Sonic Lost World
Nintendo Land
Nintendo Land i think could be adapted to Switch, and if online multiplayer was added, would improve it massively, add in a few new mini-games and it'd be one heck of a great port.
Similarly, Starfox Zero, if given traditional controls, online mp and came bundled with Starfox Guard plus the animated short that's on youtube, would be a nice little package.
@electrolite77 The GBA ports weren’t for new games, they were for SNES and NES-era games (which were at least 10 years old at the time - long enough for a remake to actually be necessary). Wii U port begging is for brand new games that came out during Obama’s second term. The others are all third-party games or aren’t coming out at all (Halo on switch? Never happening, buy an Xbox for that lol).
@JaxonH No, it has little to do with what people on Internet forums want it’s what they think will see well. That’s why, despite actually needing a rerelease, Mother 3 hasn’t seen the light of day. And this is not always synonymous with actually making a good product, seeing as loot box games with microtransactions still sell very well. Nintendo has avoided them for now, but if they ever change their tune I’m sure a lot of the trained seals on this forum will defend it on the grounds that Nintendo never does anything wrong.
Yes, portbegging is still obnoxious, self-entitled behaviour irrespective of whether or not you literally get on your knees. Some people don’t like it, and you’re going to have to deal with it.
Not exactly sure who's the one saying that ports take away development time from newer games. The idea people in favor of new games are putting out is that... well, they want new games because they presumably had a Wii U, played its games, and are ready for new experiences. But somehow it seems there's no ground for discussion here and the side (not all, of course) wanting ports are just coming off as trying to be superior and rather snobby. Jeez. Well, it's the internet, so... :shrug:
I mean, I get that it's a business win for Nintendo, and that new people are getting to experience these ports for the first time, but I can definitely see why people (including me, admittedly. There's the "bias," I guess) would want Nintendo to focus on new games. 2019 is looking pretty great in terms of these new games, so that's excellent.
EDIT: For the record, games like TMS:FE died a horrible death on the Wii U lol (still got the game, though). That's another game that deserves a port to Switch, I guess.
I’d gladly buy Tokyo Mirage Sessions again, but what I really want is Wind Waker HD and Twilight Princess HD on the Switch. Nintendo should remaster Skyward Sword and bundle the three of them as the Zelda HD Collection or something.
@Kevember
”I often defend ports by saying as long as they don't take the place of new games they're welcome. But Nintendo has been putting out all of these ports instead of new games. So far the only reasons to buy a Switch (aside from the ability to play games on the go) are Super Mario Odyssey, Octopath Traveler, Xenoblade 2 and SSBU; all of the other stuff can be played elsewhere.”
How do you know the ports have been put out INSTEAD of new games? It couldn’t be that they are developed SIMULTANEOUSLY?
”The only reasons to buy a Switch...” is your subjective opinion. Want my subjective opinion? The reasons to buy a Switch are many and the number of reasons is growing every month. You forgot to mention Kirby: Star Allies, Fire Emblem Warriors, Splatoon 2, Mario + Rabbids, ARMS, Pokémon LGP/E, Super Mario Party and Mario Tennis Aces among the exclusive titles. And Zelda: BotW, while playable on the Wii U, is mostly considered a Switch game and I wouldn’t call it a port as it released on the same day on both consoles. And XC2 got an expansion that’s a whole game itself. Then we have a console exclusive in Civilization VI and a home console exclusive in Monster Hunter Generations Ultimate. We have great first party ports like Mario Kart 8, Captain Toad, DKC:TF, Bayonetta 1+2 and Hyrule Warriors. While it’s mostly older games (but this time in portable mode!), the Switch has strong third party support (Skyrim, Dark Souls, Diablo III, L.A. Noire, DOOM, Wolfenstein 2, South Park: FBW) and more on the horizon, like the upcoming DOOM Eternal. You have new games that released simultaneously on Switch and other consoles, like Starlink. You have excellent games that didn’t appear on the Switch that far from the original release on another format, like Valkyria Chronicles 4. And I haven’t even mentioned all the indie games we have on the Switch.
Oh... and the upcoming exclusive titles: Bayonetta 3, Metroid Prime 4, Luigi’s Mansion 3, Fire Emblem: Three Houses, Animal Crossing, Yoshi’s Crafted World, Daemon X Machina, Pokémon. And some upcoming ports: NSMBUDeluxe, Resident Evil, lots of Final Fantasy.
The reasons for owning a Switch... yeah, not that many, huh?
I never owned the Wii U. Most people didn’t own a Wii U. Most Wii U owners didn’t own all of the games that has gotten ported to Switch, just a few of them. The Wii U owners who’ve played all of the games that have gotten ported are very few. Sure, you’ll probably see some of them here, but is that strange, seeing as we’re on a Nintendo fan page? A lot of gamers aren’t frequenting fan pages.
Nintendo wants to make money. Of course they will put out easy to make ports while ALSO developing new games. Not strange at all. You’re not forced to buy them again.
I would definitely look forward to a 3D World port. I mean, there are a lot of people who still have yet to play this game. The Wii U's commercial failure didn't help. The game sold poorly because the Wii U was a flop. Porting it to the Switch will keep the game alive for people who missed out on the Wii U to have a chance to play the game along with some extras.
@Euler
I’d tread carefully speaking for masses of people who you have no idea what they will or won’t do, will or won’t defend. Nintendo fans complain about regular all DLC (when there’s nothing even wrong with it). The notion that they would welcome micro transactions is absurd to me, and more fiction than reality. Speaking in hypotheticals that make gross assumptions to make yourself sound superior to others is a logical fallacy that should best be avoided anyways.
And you don’t have to like port begging. Whether or not you like it is completely irrelevant to me. I take no issue for or against that (personally I don’t know why you care what others do, but whatever). That said, you do need to have the intelligence to discern the difference between somebody begging for something and a consumer voicing their opinion and their demand. If people didn’t voice their opinions and demand, that would be an utter tragedy of censorship. The only people I can possibly imagine bothered by others voicing their desires, are people who are secretly upset when they see them getting something they want. And that speaks to an even deeper issue rooted in envy and jealousy.
I commend every Switch owner for voicing their desires, and I hope every single person here shouts it from every rooftop and from every social outlet as loud as they can. Let our voices be heard. The port begging accusations are shameful mischaracterized attempts to silence people from speaking up about what they want. Every time someone complains about “port begging” I hope people shout their wants even louder. That’s how free markets work. I don’t think someone should have to beg, but if they want to that’s their prerogative. But I do think every single person who wants somethings should let a developer know. Drop a line. “Hey, would love to see this on Switch”. Done. And they dang sure should be able to talk about it on a fansite without someone accusing them of “begging” or “pleading” or whatever other nonsense that completely mischaracterizes the narrative
Everything on this list plus Xenoblade Chronicles X and Devil’s Third. Say what you will, I love that stupid, trashy game.
As long as we get 3D World, Mario Maker and the utterly timeless Wind Waker I’m more than good!
Super Mario 3D World is the biggest game to port to the Switch and Nintendo would be stupid not to do it. My assumption is that Nintendo is waiting for the right moment to port it, cuz they already have a hot Mario game on the system, albeit a singleplayer one.
I actually love the Wii U library so much. It wasn’t huge but it had a lot of high quality games. I think in one way these games would be great ported to Switch because they deserve to be played by a larger audience. On the other hand I think a lot of them would remain superior on the Wii U cause they use game pad. Seeing this makes me wanna start up my Wii U and finish Tokyo Mirage Sessions, thanks Nlife 😁
@Kevember
None of those things mean they happen at the expense of new games.
P.S. Of the top 10 best selling Switch games as of last published figures (predating Mario Party, Pokemon and Smash) 2 are ports and one a simultaneous release. In the top 5 there is one port and one simultaneous release.
@Medic_alert @Mgene15
One extra big release pre-October would have been nice but they can’t magic them out of thin air. This year Nintendo put out 6 new games, 3 new Labo games, 2 new big chunks of DLC and 5 ports. Backloaded it may have been but it’s hardly awful.
@Euler
A games age is irrelevant. You said ““You want a game, buy the machine that plays it.”. You think Nintendo shouldn’t have rereleased SNES games on the GBA, the N64 Zeldas on Gamecube, the New Play Control Games on Wii etc. You must hate the Virtual Console. If you had your way Sony wouldn’t have ported TLOU to PS4, Rockstar wouldn’t have ported GTA V to current gen systems and Microsoft wouldn’t have been allowed to make Halo MCC. Or presumably their excellent BC program.
“portbegging is still obnoxious, self-entitled behaviour”
Doesn’t bother me. Personally I’d say wanting to deny others the chance to play games from older systems and deny the makers of those games money like my 4-year-old when he doesn’t want to share his toys is far more obnoxious and self-entitled but its all opinions....
@Donald_M
Exactly. Ports are efficient. Nintendo have some games that underperformed because Wii U failed and they want to see them find a bigger audience. If they can port 5 games for the same effort as making one new one it’s very efficient. They’re a business.
But this doesn’t cater to the personal whims of some people and oh boy are they going to let us know about it.
Xenoblade X
Fatal Frame
Paper Mario Color Splash
Yoshis Woolly World
@Medic_alert And if you look at next year a lot of new games will be rollin in.
@SwitchForce The WiiU is dead, yes, but so are other Nintendo consoles. They could easily port a, for example, Wii title and make some cash but instead choose to port a WiiU title. Then again, yes the WiiU sold horribly and it's fine they're porting the games, but that's the only thing they're doing at the moment.
@electrolite77 Sure, I did say "I'd like this and I'd like that", but I merely stated some examples, games that could easily be great choices for porting. I don't hate ports since they allow people to play amazing games from past generations they couldn't play, and I know that's an effective business practice, but they can easily port a better game from another console. Or they could just listen to fans and release VC, the money would just pour into their wallets effortlessly.
Virtual console is the number one one port I would like to see. Just transfer it all over complete and I will happily throw money at Nintendo for many months and years to come!
New games are where it's at IMO(Hyped for Daemon X Machina, Bayonetta 3, Metroid Prime 4 the most)
That said, games I'd LOVE to be brought over from the Wii/WiiU:
Metroid Prime Trilogy(remaster it)
Muramasa: The Demon Blade
@Medic_alert Good! Then we’re on the same page.
No thanks, but I'd like some Wii remasters, like last story or pandoras tower.....
I really would like the Zelda games in HD, it would be nice to have weapons, shields and bows that don't break like they do in BotW.
The nes remix 2 was a great game. May also help to introduce people to the older style of games and thus sell a few more online subs in the process. If people know the games they have been playing bitesize chunks of and available in full with the subscription they may be more inclined to pay out or ask for a sub.
@Medic_alert
Don’t think you’re alone in forgetting about that 😉
Regarding the comments from people wanting new Nintendo games instead of ports and saying that there hasn’t been anything new except Smash this year: People seems to be expecting nothing but masterpieces from the company and I agree that there’s a certain polish you expect from a Nintendo title, but not every game can be in the same league as Breath of the Wild or Super Mario Odyssey. Nintendo DID release some new games this year. It’s just that people were expecting more and bigger stuff than Kirby or Mario Tennis. These are lesser titles to an extent, but they are not bad games. Maybe we got spoiled in 2017? We got NEW games in 2018, it’s just that people were expecting too much and therefore the ports seems to take a lot of focus, as the ports often are great games like Tropical Freeze.
I agree that 2017 was hard to top, but 2018 wasn’t bad. 2019 looks like it can be great!
@SWATlozar "The WiiU is dead, yes, but so are other Nintendo consoles. They could easily port a, for example, Wii title and make some cash but instead choose to port a WiiU title. Then again, yes the WiiU sold horribly and it's fine they're porting the games, but that's the only thing they're doing at the moment."
It's not really dead unless there is no more used console "U" floating around but production has come to a drip drip factor. If one doesn't notice other consoles gets ports xbox, ps4 so it's porting isn't just a Switch thing. Porting gives Developers second chance to enhance and improve game play redone. Nothing wrong there but when one dispar Switch thinking the "U" will be reborn is a fallacy in itself. That's where the koolaid drinking becomes heavy.
@BornInNorway81 I'm with you and I'm a bit baffled by all those claiming the Switch library to be better. For a start most of its games are Wii U games or slight iterations of a couple with only Mario Odyssey being a great Nintendo exclusive for the Switch. Its for this reason that I play my Wii U regularly whilst my Switch has been in a box for 6 months and may not come out until Luigis Mansion 3 releases late next year and I prefer the Wii U as a home console anyway 😁
@BornInNorway81 Dude, you know the nivida chip is far more powerful than the Wii u even in handheld mode?? Hyreal warriors, for example, runs near the same in handheld but it's rendering in 1080p downscaled to 720p for the switches display and docked improves on that
@Equinox Wait... since when was MonolithSoft working on Zelda?
@Franklin Probably a sign that Mario Maker 2 is imminent.
Sonic: Lost World, anyone?
@CarsonCool
I wouldn’t bother. Anybody trying to convince themselves that’s Wii U is more powerful than Switch or has a better library than Switch is not going to be dealing in maths, facts, reality or anything like that.
@MarioFan02
I really wonder where else they can go with it. Was surprised that they included both retro and modern.
But Nintendo always come up with something.
Love the Wii U. Love the Switch. Bring em all, we will or won't buy them depending on whether we want them. It's all good.
Nintendo Land will never come to Switch in the same way, so I will always need to keep our Wii U running.
Controllers, though. Looking back at the last two generations, I'm struck by how Nintendo has dropped the ball on controllers. The Wii U GamePad should have been much more ergonomic, the lack of a d-pad option for Joy-con, the broken d-pad on the pro controllers, the lack of slant on the grip for the Joy-con, these are rookie mistakes by the company that, for me at least, always led the way and had the best controllers (including the Wii remotes, though the original motion controls sure would have been better if they had the gyros of motion plus that came way too late.)
@Quarth Exactly. It always takes a while with any new system for development to ramp up. Despite this, the Switch had a pretty stellar first year, but it was inevitable that year 2 would be a bit slower. We did get Smash Ultimate, but most of the other new Nintendo first party titles, while excellent, were smaller, less hype-worthy titles. 2019 is looking fantastic though with several huge titles confirmed for release next year and a couple other tentative, plus no doubt two or three games we haven't even heard of yet, knowing how close Nintendo likes to play it to the vest sometimes.
3D World and Super Mario Maker is all I need to come to the Switch though I'd pick up TMS and W101 too.
3DW was an bc absolute masterpiece of a multiplayer Mario experience. It MUST be experienced by the wider audience particularly those that still value couch co op.
@WinkSugoi I absolutely agree with you. 3D World was such a unique 3D Mario game with its 4 player co-op which is something that Odyssey can't offer. It would be cool for 3D World to co-exist with Odyssey so that it can offer the 4 player co-op that 3D World is good at. The Switch would be a great platform for 3D World.
@NintyNate What's the matter can't ya read?
Two of these Wii U games are HD ports of GameCube games "twilight princess and wind waker" were you living under a rock and missed these? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkVt1s_ZFbw
Whats the point of Nintendo putting the original GC versions on the Switch, when Nintendo have HD versions they could port over?
@Kevember
You’re just making noise now. You said, in your first comment here “Nintendo has been putting out all of these ports instead of new games”.
What new games do you think Nintendo are sitting on and choosing to release ports instead? Do you have any proof of this at all? Because you haven’t so far.
How Nintendo markets these ports is irrelevant.
@Kevember Was it hard to read? Come back with some valid points yourself instead.
Edit: We’re getting a lot of new games next year. They don’t count?
Edit 2: And the new exclusives released this and last year don’t count either?
@electrolite77 I don’t know what he’s going on about now. Like you said: it’s just noise.
@sanderev Well yes i agree. A proper Paper Mario like Thousand Year Door would be much better. Only reason I said Color Splash was because I missed it on Wii U!
@Kevember Okay, now I know your level of argumentation. Pathetic...
@Kevember LOL! Whatever man... There’s only one person looking like a fool here. You’re claiming stuff and when you’re being confronted you can’t back it up so you resort to ad hominem.
@Kevember
This is even better. You actually think they’ve chosen not to develop new games because they can pad out the schedule with ports?
Absolute solid gold. Stop making outlandish statements you can’t in any way back up. Seriously.
@electrolite77 Oh, stop it with your fanboy PR talk!
I would buy all of these except Tokyo Mirage Sessions, and wouldn’t need any more WiiU ports. Although I would much prefer a Pikmin Trilogy, I would take just 3 as I never got to play it. If they’re going to port Twilight Princess it should really have the option of motion controls. That’s how I played it on Wii, and even though the controls weren’t as immersive as Skyward Sword it was the only use of “waggle” that worked for me.
@Kevember Attacking me instead of going for my arguments. Yeah, I know what it means. And it’s clearly what you’re doing when calling me a fanboy and questioning my motive by calling it a PR pitch instead of responding to my arguments.
But hey... I thought you weren’t going to argue with me. I’m a PR talking fanboy, remember? You’re one funny dude.
@Kevember Your comments make it sound like you’re questioning my motives, which could be a way of devaluing my argumentation. Calling my posts fanboy drivel is implying I’m a fanboy. If you knew me better, you would know I’m not a fanboy. While I prefer Nintendo consoles, I for example think it’s ridiculous to argue which console is better like it’s an objective thing. It’s great that we have different brands, a broad market, etc. I also haven’t owned a Nintendo home console since the N64 (before the Switch, that is).
What I (and others) was questioning in your statement is that ports take away time from new games. More ports = less new games. ”But Nintendo has been putting out all of these ports instead of new games.” You haven’t shown any evidence of this. What I’ve seen during 2017 and 2018 is that Nintendo have put out both new games and ports. There’s nothing indicating they would have released new games if the ports hadn’t been put out. How many new games do you expect them to release each year if it wasn’t for the ports?
What the motives are for Nintendo releasing the ports is not the question here (but an easy answer would be: easy money). What we turned against was your statement that ”Nintendo has been putting out all of these ports instead of new games”, which I can’t see any evidence of given that we’ve seen both new games and ports being released this year, as well as last year.
I also turned against you mixing your subjective feelings that ”so far the only reasons to buy a Switch (aside from the ability to play games on the go) are Super Mario Odyssey, Octopath Traveler, Xenoblade 2 and SSBU” into your argumentation. That’s why I was pointing out all the exclusive and new stuff (as well as other worthy games) that have been released on the system so far, not only to counter your argument that ports are replacing new games, but also your subjective claim that the Switch only has a handful Nintendo exclusives worthy of ones time.
But somehow you just boiled it down to ”fanboy drivel” and a ”poor man’s PR pitch”.
I think I’m done with you. Peace, my friend!
@Kevember And my point is that we had both leftovers and fresh meals this year, as well as last year. I would agree with you if all we got was ports, but that isn’t the case. And there’s nothing indicating we would have got more new games if it weren’t for the ports. I think we would get the same amount of new games as we do now, if not Nintendo suddenly decided to make rushed McDonalds meals instead of high quality dishes, and that we wouldn’t want, right?
So I don’t agree with you and that’s it. Goodnight!
I'm betting Mario Maker 2 will be a big release next fall. So, I don't expect the first to get ported. I bet it has a full game creator and cutscene editor along with a bunch of new tilesets including way more amiibo character/hero sprites.
I can hope anyway.
@Dezzy Backwards Compatibility usually includes the ability to play by your existing library of games though.
It's more like Sony releasing Remastered versions of their PS3 games on the PS4. (God of War III, The Last of Us, Heavy Rain, Beyond Two Souls, etc..)
You know, I'm surprised no one said anything about Xenoblade Chronicles X.
Although, I would like to see a remastered version of Star Fox Zero, and make the gyroscopic controls completely optional. And add an online multiplayer mode. And add Krystal.
@Kevember OK, if you insist on going on... Let us be a little more generous (and honest, seeing as you didn’t count certain games) and count exclusives (as you have already put Octopath Traveler and Mario+Rabbids on the list) and first party games. But I will go a little further than that (but I will explain my reasoning, so don’t worry).
March 2017:
Breath of the Wild (released the same day as the Wii U version, therefore not a port, so while not console exclusive, I count it as new - it’s more synonymous with the Switch anyway) - new
1-2-Switch - new
April 2017:
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe - port (Wii U)
May 2017:
ARMS - new
June 2017:
July 2017:
Splatoon 2 - new
August 2017:
Mario+Rabbids Kingdom Battle (third party exclusive) - new
September 2017:
Pokken Tournament - port (Wii U)
October 2017:
Fire Emblem Warriors (not console exclusive as it also was released on 3DS, but it was simultaneously and the Switch version sold a lot more - anyway, it should be counted as a new game) - new
Super Mario Odyssey - new
November 2017:
Snipperclips Plus - new
December 2017:
Xenoblade Chronicles 2 - new
January 2018:
February 2018:
Bayonetta 1 + 2 - port (Wii U)
March 2018:
Kirby: Star Allies - new
April 2018:
Nintendo LABO - new
May 2018:
Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze - port (Wii U)
Hyrule Warriors - port (combined content from Wii U and 3DS versions)
June 2018:
Mario Tennis Aces - new
Sushi Striker (also a case of simultaneous release on Switch/3DS, but it’s nontheless a new game) - new
July 2018:
Captain Toad - port (Wii U)
Octopath Traveler (third party exclusive) - new
August 2018:
Monster Hunter Generations Ultimate (seeing as this previously only was released in Japan, it could be considered new here in the West, but let us be fair and call it a port) - port (3DS)
September 2018:
Xenoblade Chronicles 2: Torna (could be dismissed as just an expansion, but it’s a full game in itself so we could count it as new) - ”new”
October 2018:
Super Mario Party - new
The World Ends With You: Final Remix (could be considered new as it’s been remade for the Switch - it’s not just a straight up port, but OK, we can call it half new/half port) - new/port (DS)
November 2018:
Pokemon Let's Go - new
Civilization VI (third party console exclusive) - kinda port/kinda new
Starlink: Battle for Atlas (third party, not exclusive, but released simultaneously as other versions, with exclusive Nintendo content, so I put it here) - new, not exclusive, but with exclusive content
December 2018:
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate - new
So... what do we got between March 2017-December 2018?
13 new games. (Add LABO and it’s 14. Add BotW and it’s 15. Add Fire Emblem Warriors, Sushi Striker and Starlink and you got 18. Add XC2: Torna and it’s 19. Add Civ VI and it’s 20. Add TWEWY and it’s 21.)
7 ports. (Count Civ VI and TWEWY as ports and you got 9. Count BotW as a port and you get 10.)
So many ports... So few new games...
Oh and regarding the evidence stuff... At least I say it’s what I think. You on the other hand stated that ”Nintendo has been putting out all of these ports instead of new games”. What we can see is that the Switch has got both new and exclusive games AND ports. I can’t see how the ports have stopped the release of new games, as new games have been released. And if you take away the ports, would there be new games taking their place? I don’t think so. While ports are easy to make, new games takes time to develop. It’s one thing if you rush out new games, but that’s usually not Nintendo’s tactic. Even lesser games like Sushi Striker or Mario Tennis contains a high level of polish. If one enjoy the games or not is beside the point, that is just subjective.
Edit: I count games released simultaneously on several platforms as new to the Switch, just the same way as I for example would count Red Dead Redemption 2 as a new game for the Xbox One, though it also was released on PS4 at the same day. Therefore Fire Emblem Warriors is a new game.
Edit 2: Sorry for the fanboy shill, Kevember. I hope you still have read my PR talk. I just want to add that the games we’re talking about above aren’t the only games worth talking about for the Switch. We also got a lot of great indies and third party support. Not exclusive stuff and some of it’s older, but not everything has to be new or exclusive to be enjoyable. And let us now look forward to 2019: some ports are coming, but also a lot of new and exciting games, on a lot of platforms. Let us enjoy that!
@Kevember I think we got enough new Nintendo games to be satisfied, but that’s my opinion. OK, 2018 wasn’t as good as 2017, but it wasn’t bad. I understand that if you play a Nintendo console only for the Nintendo developed (not just published) games, it looks a bit thin, but so it is on most Nintendo consoles. One needs to embrace the full library and try games outside of Nintendo’s own brands to get the most out of Switch. It’s brimming with great content.
”I just wish Nintendo stopped selling these ports as big releases at full price.”
Yeah, while that’s another discussion completely, I agree that the pricing on some of these games are a little bit high, seeing as they often haven’t added that much new content to the Switch versions. Now these games are new to me, so I don’t bother that much, but I can understand that people are being upset about that. I say what I usually do: vote with your wallet. As for the marketing of the ports: I can understand that it seems weird that Nintendo is banging on the big drum for old games in a new costume, but is it so strange, honestly? Most people haven’t played these games and Nintendo wants them to sell. What’s the smartest thing to do? If it’s morally correct or not we can debate, but it’s logical. Nintendo, like all companies, wants to make money. Do they make strange business decisions sometimes? Yes. But there’s no denying they know how to sell their IP’s.
Edit: Remember that the Switch isn’t even two years old yet and a lot of new games have been announced already. Have hope!
Edit 2: Just as a comparison:
Looking at retail games being developed or published by Sony for the PS4 during its first two calendar years, only 8 new games were released (9 if you count the The Last of Us remaster). To be fair the PS4 was released in November of 2013, so let us also count the games released in 2015: that’s 10 more, but only 6 new if you remove the remakes, remasters and new editions of previously released games on other platforms. So 14 new games.
What’s my point?
First: Look at the overall library and the PS4 got a lot more games than that in its first two years. We need to see beyond the first party titles.
Second: The PS4 also have had its fair share of ports.
Third: Look at the PS4 library now, with a lot more first party games. It has an excellent library of Sony titles and I bet that we can say the same about the Switch and its Nintendo exclusives in a couple of years.
The last Wii U ports included cucumbers such as Brick Breaker, Abyss, and Job the Leprechaun. Where are Citizens of Earth, Knytt Underground, and Stealth Inc.?
@Medic_alert But I don't have a Wii U?
Nice to see that Affordable Space Adventures gets some well-deserved attention. It's truly one of the best, most unique and most memorable gaming experiences I've ever had.
It's really sad to see such a gem of gaming history rot away pretty much unnoticed by most gamers.
And it all could've been avoided if Nintendo would just let the Switch utilize its second screen!
Anyway, if we're taking about the ports:
Super Mario Maker, yes please! This game needs to be on the Switch ASAP!
Pikmin would also be a nice addition, unless they're already working on Pikmin 4 of course.
But WWHD & TPHD again? No thank you, there's no need for that. If they're going to do another remaster, it's gotta be SSHD anyway.
I don’t mind the ports at all and I owned most of them on my Wii U previously. I’d welcome a few more off this list as well. My only caveat to all these ports is the pricing. Really wish Nintendo would put these at $39.99 instead of $59.99. The fact you can get these on Wii U so cheap right now & that some ports don’t pack much additional content, I feel like asking full retail is a little much.
@Kevember Yeah, let’s shake hands and look forward to a what seems to be a great gaming year!
Yeah, Xenoblade Chronicles X would be awesome to see Ported. As well as a BETTER version of Star Fox Zero as far as other ports go Nano Assault neo comes to mind as well.
I effing want Tokyo Mirage Sessions
@8bitforever yeah... I totally see the business case for doing it. I am just not all that happy... And wish they at least changed or added value to make it worth while for us to buy again....
@JaxonH I didn't say everyone here (or even most people) would defend lootboxes and microtransactions. I said "a lot of the trained seals here". You would do well to take a reading comprehension course before insulting others' intelligence. And those defending the practice would use the same arguments the portbeggars use. "Making new games is expensive these days, and Nintendo is in a hole from the Wii U era! You don't have to buy lootboxes if you don't want them! It's only cosmetic! All the other major developers do it!". You're in good company.
No, criticizing portbegging doesn't silence anyone. You need to have the intelligence to discern the difference between someone disagreeing with your ideas and trying to silence you (especially when they aren't very good ones to begin with). And people don't criticize portbegging because they don't want other people to get what they want, we criticize it because it often conflicts with what we want (backwards compatibility, brand new games, being able to buy a game once without having to worry about shelling out another $80 for an expanded version, better content on Nintendo Life than three articles worth of portbegging, etc).
@electrolite77 A game's age is completely relevant. If it's an older game, it's generally harder to get (see: Earthbound) and fewer people had the chance to actually buy it (younger people, new gamers) at a non-ripoff price (before it was put in the Disney Vault). If it's a brand new game that was still on the shelf back when we were arguing about inauguration crowds and alternative facts, that's... not really the case. They're also more apt to gouge you by charging full price for a last-gen port than for a retro game on the Virtual Console. You might be okay with that, lots of people aren't and they get to speak up.
Okay then. Nintendo needs to drop whatever it's doing to make Wii U and 3DS ports of Mario Odyssey. Wii U owners deserve it for their loyalty, and the 3DS has a wider install base than the Switch (and it's still on the market). And if you disagree, you're no different from a four year-old that hasn't watched the Barney episode about sharing his toys. Pretty self-entitled, isn't it? It's not hard to see why Switch portbegging is looked at with such disdain by the rest of the gaming community.
@Euler
it often conflicts with what we want (backwards compatibility, brand new games, being able to buy a game once without having to worry about shelling out another $80 for an expanded version
Except it doesn't. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe strangely didnt seem to stop the devs from releasing a brand new game, ARMS, the very next month. And backward compatibility was not intentionally disabled to sell ports (I dont need to insult your intelligence, your own words insult your intelligence). It simply wasn't compatible with transitioning to a modern architecture. And you do only have to buy a game once. If you buy some $80 expanded version that's on you. Nobody forced you.
And your comparison to Wii U is garbage. Nobody cares about Wii U in significant number. It's a dead system and nobody would realistically want to port games there so it would be nonsense speaking about it. Plenty want games on Switch. So deal with it. Cause people aren't gonna shut their mouths and NOT discuss games they want on a gaming fan site.
Take your Ebenezer Scrooge attitude elsewhere. (Gar gar gar I cant stand people saying they'd like a game on Switch, its soooooo annoying gar gar gar)
Get outta here dude
@Euler
“Nintendo needs to drop whatever it's doing to make Wii U and 3DS ports of Mario Odyssey. Wii U owners deserve it for their loyalty, and the 3DS has a wider install base than the Switch (and it's still on the market). And if you disagree, you're no different from a four year-old that hasn't watched the Barney episode about sharing his toys. Pretty self-entitled, isn't it? It's not hard to see why Switch portbegging is looked at with such disdain by the rest of the gaming community.”
1) This is a stupid comparison as you’re talking about porting games to older hardware. The literal opposite of what is being discussed.
2) If Nintendo can port Mario Odyssey to their older systems without significant impact elsewhere and can make money off it, that’s fine by me.
3) I bolded that bit for a reason. I’m going to say this for what must be the millionth time. Neither Nintendo nor anyone else has to ‘drop everything‘
to port older games to new systems. Porting old games d-o-e-s n-o-t take the same effort as making new games.
“It's not hard to see why Switch portbegging is looked at with such disdain by the rest of the gaming community.”
If that is true, well, that’s just devastating news. Is this the same community that thinks ports take the same effort and resource as new games? If anybody within the gaming community (renowned of course for its sophistication and tolerance) has an issue with people wanting games on their games system whether it be for better fidelity or for portability/convenience, that’s all on them. The ‘community’ is welcome to its spitefulness.
@Kevember
If you want to know how that list would look without the ports take out each entry of ‘port’ (apart from BOTW which is a simultaneous release) and replace them with ‘nothing’.
The MK8D team still came out with a new game. Bamco wouldn’t have been able to create a new game for the same effort and resource as porting Pokken. Likewise Platinum with Bayonetta 2, Retro with DKCTF, Koei-Tecmo with Hyrule Warriors. I’m not at all convinced Nintendo would have been able to come out with a new game instead of both Captain Toad and NSMBUDX.
@Kevember
Yeah they’ve had a very sound strategy so far. Surprisingly so, as they don’t always seem to have one!
@JaxonH ARMS? You mean the game that was widely considered to be a great idea with fun mechanics but could've been a lot better because it was so lacking in content? That doesn't really help your case. But beyond that, even if porting a game took zero development resources (obviously wrong), that could still delay or prevent the next installment from coming out. Franchise fatigue sets in, making it less likely that consumers will be interested in the game. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe means that Mario Kart 9 won't be released until much later into the Switch's lifespan, if at all (note that there has never been more than one Mario Kart game released on any Nintendo console, no matter how well it sells or how long its lifespan is - if a Wii U port is as good as a new game, then Mario Kart 8 DX is the only one that will be on the Switch). Conversely, Super Smash Bros. Ultimate means that Super Smash Bros. for Wii U won't be ported to the Switch. Perhaps you were one of the many people that thought a deluxe port (merge the 3DS and Wii U versions with all DLC, add in the Ice Climbers + Ridley, slap an $80 price tag on it and call it a day) would've been a brilliant idea. Personally though, I think the product they actually gave us is a lot better.
Backwards compatibility could easily be done with the modern architecture, especially now that digital games and cloud saves are rapidly replacing discs and cartridges. Microsoft seems to have figured this out.
"And you do only have to buy a game once. If you buy some $80 expanded version that's on you. Nobody forced you."
...the same argument lootbox apologists use.
Evidently, enough people are still interested in the Wii U to justify Ubisoft and other publishers continuing to release games on it.
Nobody is forcing you to read my comments or anyone else's. Or even scroll past them, for that matter. There's this wonderful little button that you can click to hide all of them permanently. It's located roughly two buttons to the right of the reply link.
@electrolite77 Nintendo has a long history of supporting their old platforms for a time after the next system comes out (NES games were being made into the mid-1990s - Wario's Woods being a prime example). Ports generally do not take as much effort to make as newer games, but that does not mean they make "no significant impact elsewhere" (especially when there is additional content).
@Euler
Mario Kart 8 on Wii U also could’ve been a lot better but was lacking in content (no battle mode courses). Not to mention ARMS was updated and supported for at least a year post launch and now has some 16 different fighters, for a BRAND NEW FIGHTER IP. That’s dang good.
And who cares if Mario Kart 9 never comes. That’s completely irrelevant. The point is this development studio has only released ONE GAME per system per generation, and in less than 6 months we already got TWO GAMES, one brand new. That’s better than one game any way you slice it. Which games they happened to choose to create makes no difference whatsoever.
And I didn’t really have any opinions on “Smash Wii U port being a great idea”. Smash Ultimate is better, but if Smash Wii U/3DS being ported meant we ALSO got a new Kid Icarus, I would have much rather had that.
And your ignorance concerning backwards compatibility is telling. BC only works when the previous systems are built using similar architecture. It’s why DS was able to play GBA, and 3DS was able to play DS. It’s why the Wii played GC and the Wii U played Wii. It’s why the Xbox One is able to play 360 games, because it only requires them repackaging the executable as x64.
This is NOT the case for Switch or PS4. Since PS4 made a transition to PC like architecture, drastic change from the cell on PS3. SAME FOR SWITCH. They made a drastic move away from the dated PowerPC architecture they’d been using on GameCube, Wii and Wii U (all of which were basically overclock versions of their predecessors). Switch HAD to make a drastic change in order to be more port friendly. That’s why we saw reports of games being ported to switch in 10% of the time it took to port to Wii U or 3DS. So next gen, we absolutely will see BC. For both PS4 and Switch. But this generation they had to change their architecture and that means no BC. One data point is not evidence of a trend. Especially when you already know the cause, which I just explained.
"And you do only have to buy a game once. If you buy some $80 expanded version that's on you. Nobody forced you."
the same argument lootbox apologists use
Noooo, it’s NOT the same argument. Loot boxes are gambling, that’s a FACT. Loot boxes put gameplay balance in jeaopardy. That’s a FACT. And THATS why it’s indefensable. Games being ported only brings happiness and satisfaction to those who want to play them, and you have no place complaining about what others want. You have no leg to stand on with this. None
And if Just Dance and 5 trash indies a year is your definition of “interest” in Wii U, then we might as well cut the discussion short right here because it’s clear you are delusional and will say anything to defend your indefensible position. They put Just Dance on ANYTHING because it’s super cheap to make and the audience who buys it are typically casuals who keep a system for 15 years. Wii U is dead. That’s why nobody wants games ported to it. It also doesn’t offer any additional value. Nobody wants to buy a port that doesn’t offer any real additional value. Which is why 3rd party games all flopped on Wii U. But on Switch, they sell like cakes of the extremely hot variety. Because hybrid functionality is real, tangible value not found anywhere else. And people want every single good game in existence to benefit from that value.
My body is ready for all Zelda games to come to Switch.
Paper mario color splash... that game was brilliant!
@renaryuugufan92 hey I'm AstralRedStar705, and I was wondering if you'd be interested in friending me on the 3DS, or Switch? Also do you use Discord?
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