EA's company finance chief Black Jorgensen has told the Wall Street Journal that it's too early to accurately judge the demand for the company's games on the Nintendo Switch.
EA has released FIFA 18 on the console so far, one of its biggest franchises, but reports suggest that the Switch version has accounted for very few sales in comparison to the PS4 and Xbox One editions.
Jorgensen says EA will wait a full market year (until March, basically) before deciding on what other games it will bring to Nintendo's console, if it decides to bring any at all. He states that the company wants to "fully understand what the demand is" before committing development resources to the machine.
Given that other publishers - such as Bethesda - are now pledging their support to Switch, EA's stance does seem a little odd. However, FIFA 18 has hardly sold like hotcakes on the console, so perhaps this air of caution is wise? Let us know what you think by posting a comment.
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Normally I make a gag about these comments, but nah, this one's too easy.
Okay, fine. Self-fulfilling prophecies for the win?
Screw you EA!
Muppets! Clowns! Idiots! Everyone else is having major success on Switch, use it or lose it you absolute imbeciles...
Sure, judge the demand for Switch games with a single game. Makes absolute sense.
Oh, EA. Please port The Sims 4 to Switch with same content as PC / PS4 (Expansion Packs, DLC, etc)
I would like to play The Sims 4 on Nintendo Switch rather than on PS4.
And pleeeeease.... Revive MySims on Switch because i saw MySims figurines and MySims Racing included on The Sims 4 as Cameo !
@Yrreiht Poorly made* game
I said a good while ago that we'll know what EA are doing if they don't announce the World Cup edition of FIFA for Switch which should be around February of next year.
It’s always about money with these guys. Never the consumer.
EA wishes it could feel feelings.
Who needs constant annual upgrades of basically the same game with little bit taken out each year and monetised into a loot box. No great loss
About 6 months ago this would be disastrous, but now it seems like EA should move on without Switch and Switch will move on without EA.
FIFA 18 has officially the dumbest Icon in my library so idc EA
Sad. EA is the best school of game design of the industry. EA games have always been part of the best games on all Nintendo's systems libraries. Unlike Nintendo games who suffer of the "big budget empty shell" syndrom.
What could Nintendo want from a greedy company like EA? Screw them!
Nintendo is better without them.
@bitleman Lol. Hope everyone else catches that sarcasm.
Looking for your comments? Deleted. Mind your language.
I've just played 4.5 hours of online FIFA, thanks EA.
@Malpais flounces and storms away
@Mr_Pepperami Except it is a big loss because they get a massive casual fanbase on board.
If I want to play an EA game, I'll fire up the Genesis.
Pivot on this, EA
@olrodlegacy I disagree. They have never been a major presence on Nintendo consoles.
don't blame them and don't care I am done with yearly sports games
@Mr_Pepperami You're mistaken http://lmgtfy.com/?q=EA+Wii+games
If they can't see that the demand for switch is there now then 6 months isn't gonna change that.
In other words. Not enough people bought the overpriced Fifa 18 Switch port.
@Nintendoforlife no I’m not. The releases on Wii were as always worse versions of the more powerful consoles and hardly set the sales charts on fire. They have never shifted huge numbers on Nintendo systems as they have never really treated them with the same,debatable, quality
@Mr_Pepperami From what I can recall the My sims games sold well enough on the Wii. I wouldn't say any company was really a major player during the Wii days
@Nintendoforlife fair point. My point is just that just because they have released games on Wii, ds etc etc I would never say they have been a major presence and part of any success particular Nintendo platforms have had.
I would to see EA do a another Boom Blox game or a Need for Speed game for the Switch.
Classic EA
"Nintendo won't let us put lootboxes to boot up the game, honestly their business model is a lil outdated" -EA
Meh I stop caring about EA a long time ago. I could game without them, heck I probably wouldn't miss them if they go under just like THQ, Midway, and soon to be Crapcom.
I think konami are missing a trick here .
Bring pro evo on the switch do it right and make loads on money ??
That sucks for the Switch tbh.
When you make a gimped version of a game with no online play, of course it's not going to sell as well.
@Botty1973 and a castlevania compilation. Please konami
Overpriced and under-featured, why would I buy a FIFA game that I literally can't play online with my friends.
And given EA's direction with loot boxes and macro-transactions, I'm not sure they'll be missed.
EA giving Capcom a running for the "it's only a flesh wound" award for failing to see the success of the Switch.
The demand is for you to dissolve your company and release the various studios you've captured over the years.
@retro_player_22 Remeber when Capcom made Minish Cap? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
@Mr_Pepperami Yeah I get what you're saying. But you could also argue EA is at a different level of relevancy today than it was before. The games they make, are for the demographic Nintendo is shooting for. Support from them would be useful.
I remember a time when people would say if EA isn't on board then a system will fall apart like in the Dreamcast era and even the Wii. That was a long time ago. How the mighty have fallen.
lol
....just, lol...
Told you this would happen. xD
Eh, honestly the only EA games I would want are ports of the Mass Effect trilogy and the Dragon Age trilogy, and since we probably wouldn't be getting those anyway (let alone decent versions that actually have access to all the DLC) I don't see this as a huge loss. For me, at least.
@Nintendoforlife I get what you mean I just don’t think their games translate well to how Nintendo works. Nintendo always have less powerful consoles than the market leader and this makes getting good versions of things like battlefield, FIFA etc etc either impossible or too much hard work for EA to really bother with. There is no point in them bringing games to the system if they are vastly inferior. They won’t sell well.
Only thing I'm interested from EA is Star Wars and Madden. They can keep everything else to themselves - even their Bioware offerings.
A Nintendo console doesn’t feel like it will do well with FIFA in 2017. FUT and existing online friendships are the main factor behind low sales in my opinion.
Ok EA, I defended you but at this point seriously, put up or shut up.
Can't stand EA.
Screw EA. I know they are a huge publisher and the more games they come to the Switch the better but I just can’t. I can’t deal with them. I hope they bring games so others have the chance to enjoy but I will not spend a single cent on their products. They just [removed] too much for me.
@Supadav03 Mind your language - Octane
I can tell them exactly what the demand is:
The demand is that they release something that isn't a lazy, half-hearted cash grab! As a Switch owner who also owns a PS4, why would I pay the same price for a game with half of the features? If they release something awesome, and maybe release an eshop demo, that may stir up excitement for whatever it is that they're willing to offer. If they want to entice me with a rotten carrot on a string, I won't bite and I trust that millions of others won't either.
BraveFencerZan says EA would first have to test demand with a mass-appeal title.
Fifa18 is a decent start but they aren't taking advantage of the EA library or cultivating their developers with challenges like porting to Switch....something that would in turn help the quality of their games.
Instead, all we hear about are studio closures, Star Wars 1313 resulting in failure, changing their lootbox scheme for BF2 thanks to fan outcry, and insinuating that the singleplayer game is dead because said lootbox schemes make them more money.
As far as big publishers go, EA is a joke.
Fine. If you don't want my money, EA, be that way. At this point I'd rather see you go, anyway, you bunch of [bleeeeeep]s.
Fifa 18 on Switch hasn't exactly been a flop & will be a steady seller for sure. It's not gonna compare with sales on the other two dedicated home consoles, but nobody expected it too, certainly not EA. I can't imagine it hasn't been profitable & I do believe they'll be back.
@Mr_Pepperami
Um... EA games are not always about FIFA, Star Wars, etc.
What about The Sims, MySims, Charming Girl Club, Littlest Pet Shop, etc ?
Those games are Really Big Deal for gamers who really enjoy Cutesy, Girlie things, unlike typical male gamers.
Remember, gamers are not just only about adult male gamer audiences.
Think about other customer who is Women / Girls / Kids / Cute lovers. Because i am that consumer who really want games like that from EA.
Give me Artistic / cute games like The Sims or MySims but i don't need at all FIFA, Star Wars, etc. I am NOT a consumer like that, i am the Opposite.
Anyway, i still cross my finger for The Sims 4 Switch and perhaps.... MySims Return on Switch.
So FIFA 18 sold through the low shipments they gave it quite handily, topped eShop charts for a good bit...and they said their actions depend on how that gane sells.
So lets move the goalposts.
Of course they’re disappointed with FIFA sales but can only blame themselves on having a rushed port out instead of adding Switch support to their newer engine.
Also the Nintendo online needs to improve will all the difficulties in inviting friends.
Both things combined... and FIFA didn’t sell as well as they expected. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure this out.
Screw EA.
With their ever evolving push into multiplayer games and microtransactions, I honestly don't think most their games are a fit for Switch anyways.
@Anti-Matter you serious? You’re telling me that there isn’t enough cute games or games for girls coming out on switch without EA on board?? EA haven’t been at the forefront of creative or artistic games or games for kids. You are seriously complaining that I didn’t mension the games for kids EA would bring to a Nintendo console which is typically the place for games for the family or kids. You just wanted to try and make me look like a male chauvinist or something. Sorry I didn’t list their entire catalog. Just went with their most popular titles
First they make a horrible game and now they're blaming it on the Switch? Quite pathetic, quite EA. Saying that FIFA was custom made for the Switch is a really bad excuse for a crappy game (saying from experience, I've played it and seen the overall poor sales not to mention it's EA). Companies like Bethesda are joining in the Switch train and you are having second thoughts? What do you mean it's still too early??? I'd say it's too late to say it's too early.
Wow, EA just being EA.
That quote means that they probably didn't even started to port the Frosbite engine to the Switch, which means that not games are in development.
EA is really missing something here, like they could have announce Need for Speed as the system currently lacks racing games like that.
They could have announce Mass Effect games, like a bundle similar to what Capcom is doing with RE Revelations...etc etc
They are just waiting for other Studios (like Bethesda) to release and invest in the platform first so they can see if they are selling games or not so then, only then, they will think about it.
Probably we won't be missing out their crap crate loot games.
What really sucks is that, if EA pull out, we won't have any Star Wars games on Switch! Screw their sports games, I'm just so fed up with those.
Just give me one iteration of FIFA, Madden, and NHL... I only buy one per console generation.. if at all.
@Mr_Pepperami
Perhaps these images Refresh your memories.
I played kind of games like on above !
I really Love Cute games like that.
The Sims series is the Best for me, because i Love games that exploring my Artistic and Creativity side. I like to design, draw, working my drawing project on my PC with CorelDRAW & Corel PhotoPAINT X5, so The Sims games are Perfect for me. Beside, i can enjoy so Peaceful The Sims games without trigerring Nasty Dramas. I really need so Artistic and Peaceful games like that. I don't care with popularity of FIFA, Star Wars, etc because in my heart, they are Lame, Unpopular for me, not a great games at all, boring as hell.
Poor sales are hardly surprising given the fact that released a nerfed sub par game compared to other consoles. Heck even the menus and GUI looks different.
@WaitroseDad64
There is no way that EA would put any of their Star Wars games on Switch, it's EA.
EA has been terrible now for so long that newer gen gamers won't even know that there was once a time when EA was great.
FIFA doesn't fit the Nintendo fanbase as well as other games would. If they were going to test with just 1 game they should have used Star Wars Battle Front II
@WaitroseDad64 I hope you're being cynical because you should very well know that the only Star Wars games EA is making and is going to make are Battlefront games - or something akin to them. EA doesn't make games anymore, they make service-platforms at $60 a pop (for the basic entry-to-service package).
That's why they had no longer any need for Visceral (among other studios). Battlefront, such as it is running on Frostbite, was never going to be on the Switch anyways, and more importantly, it really is not much of a loss. It looks and sounds great, very Star-Wars'y in fact, but that is about all I for one can say in it's favor. If you've ever played a Battlefield game, or one of it's 'spin-offs', you've pretty much already played Battlefront. It's not an exact carbon copy, but as far as the essential goes, and certainly the feel of the game in action, it is more than close enough.
IF you're hoping for anything else Star-Wars-games-related, you will have to wait until at least 2023 - assuming the deal Disney struck with EA will not be extended. It's sad I know, but it's also the inescapable truth.
@Jacob1092 That side of Capcom became Flagship Studio just like the side of Capcom of Clover Studio which became Platinum Games and those dev no longer had any ties with Capcom anymore. Right now this company is just Crapcom. It's not Capcom that made the Oracle and Minish Cap Zelda games, it's Flagship and I'm glad they are no longer part of Capcom. You only remember the corporate name that puts their label on the game, you don't actually know who really made the game.
@retro_player_22 I did not know that! Every day's a school day If that's the case, they should really get Flagship to do another, Minish Cap is one of my favourite Zelda's Be nice if they had something to tide us over if they're planning on another four (cough, six/seven) year development cycle for the next Zelda.
"We're not yet sure that Switch owners are willing to continue paying for the same game months on end the way users on other platforms are."
EA and Capcom just show how out of touch with the gaming market that they both are. The demand is there for more switch games. This is a time when people are very excited to be able to pick up new/different/properties only available on other consoles for their new system. I think what they need to asses is what types of games does the switch audience what to play (docked and on the go crowds) and make those games.
There may be an audience for rehashes of SF2 at 40.00 (it sold well apparently) but if you are going to judge your entire support on a pretty niche game (fifa - specific audience and SF2 - same thing) and expect crazy results just because - you are out of touch with reality.
Just leaves me more time to play other games. Your loss.
Switch is not a viable platform for EA unless Nintendo's online structure supports their games-are-services-not-games model in the future. No big loss.
Lol. If you feel like almost completely missing out on two plus years of what is becoming the most popular console...well that's your perogative EA.
https://m.imgur.com/8xa3GJI?r
Replace Capcom with EA in this.
Bye Felicia, thanks for nothing.
Screw you EA. Start making games that are the full experience on Nintendo consoles without cutting corners and then maybe you'll start seeing better sales numbers. You can start by putting the full Battlefront II experience on Switch, and of course optimize it (read: DON'T CUT CORNERS, JUST MAKE IT WORK) and I am sure it'll sell!
It may get more demand as Xmas gifts hand out Switches to the non Nintendo crowd, expanding the user base, but that is not a good sign.
Would Konami consider their footie franchise for the Switch?
It was never going to do well. Most/All of the fanbase is on PS/XB, millions fewer Switches than PS4/X1, missing features, friend matches difficult to arrange.
I don't particularly think anyone is to blame here. EA could had added the features and improved the online and it would had still sold the same. It's just too soon to judge. EA should focus on other games for Switch, like a dumbed down Need for Speed or Mirrors Edge something that doesn't cost a great deal to produce that drums up a bit of interest and gets a bit of cash in. Then when the Switch dust settles, try a sports game again.
@Ralek85
I realise it doesn't look good. It does seem money wasted though if all they do with Star Wars is Battlefront. I mean surely a lot of people would buy Star Wars games. In the Lucas era, the games were hit and miss but at least the universe was being exploited and the games were very different gameplay-wise. Here it looks like a situation where everybody loses (EA included because you could easily imagine they could make a lot more money with this)
I really would like to know what really happened between EA and Nintendo. They went from having that infamous "unprecidented partnership" at E3 2011 to nothing from 2013-2017, and now this. What happened that made things so suddenly sour?
Until EA revive's the Mutant League Hockey (and Football) franchises, they are dead to me.
Ok who didn't predict this one?
They release a minimum amount of the games possible in the UK. Then they admittedly halfass the game and leave out parts the others have. Now they're saying they can't commit to more games at this time as it's too early to tell.
EA die in a fire already. Companies like you with your self imposed prophecies of doom deserve to rot.
@bitleman I wouldn't say loot boxes, yearly sport rehashes and constantly broken, most patch receiving games in the industry (EA) are robust and worthwhile compared to expertly crafted gaming experiences ready to be fully played at launch that have beautiful music scores, well conceived narratives and a long history of being some of the best playing, tightly controlled games ever produced(Nintendo). I don't know what kind've troll box you're standing on or if you are an EA employee or something but, you're clearly drunk.
EA is moving more towards a Gaming-service business model with "oppotunities" for additional income through microtransactions, etc. Until that bubble bursts (if it does) they are gonna milk that method for all its worth.
@Anti-Matter Many of those games came out during the mainstream gaming period that started with the DS and has started to end in recent years. As many tend to be relatively simple games with short development times, most have moved to the mobile market which is also the largest markets. Therefore with the possible exception of the Sims (although the last game supposedly didn't do as well as its predecessors) I doubt EA will release sich games on any dedicated gaming hardware.
EA is kinda right--but I just wish it would support the frikin' console properly already.
Go and shove your yearly FIFA and NFS updates up your arse.
I hope all 3 bethesda's games sell millions on switch so we can all give the finger to EA
@Botty1973
Actually... that's brilliant.
#PESforSwitch
-Switch sales skyrocket globally
-Some Indies even break their combined sales on Switch alone in mere weeks.
-Mario Odyssey sells 2 million copies in 3 days
-Bethesda did the insane thing and released their core-lineup on a vastly underpowered system regardless.
Lets be real here. It not too early to judge demand, its clearly visible. Its just not EA's audience.
They would need to put in effort to compete with the aforementioned Bethesda and try to get their core lineup to run on the system. EA is sadly not known to go this "extra mile", as seen in Wii and WiiU, which mostly got heavily watered down versions of their IP's or lacked care in other areas (Solo release of Mass Effect 3 even though the collection was sold on other systems etc. )
As far as im concerned, EA won't be missed if they jump ship again. Its a sad Situation for others who like their IP's, but for me personally, they offer nothing of value and im fine with not supporting their generally anti-consumer business decisions.
@Einherjar It's far from guaranteed that Bethesda's gamble will pay off. Their support is admirable, let nothing negative be said of that, but whether it will pay off? I have my doubts.
In regards to the EA thing overall, I can just picture Capcom pulling the same after RE: Revelations.
Couldn't care less about EA games, I think I may have bought 1 or 2 of their games in the last 15 years and they be said they don't do single player stuff anyway
@WaitroseDad64 I guess so, I mean, I'm not really disagreeing, but look at what EA did with the license so far, look at what is announced, what got already canceled (and it's the 4th year into this deal), and then just look at what EA is producing these days, has been for a decade now basically, and what it did with all the talent and intellectual property it acquired over the last 20 years.
I get how one would feel compelled to argue that "It's Star Wars!" and that EA cannot possibly fail to exploit that IP beyond a Battlefield spin-off, and honestly, I'd love to be proven wrong, but I really don't think I will. Again, I don't see how EA has any more interest left in making "games", stuff you sell for $60 and be done with it. It's just not what they do, and apparently they've not really found a way to make a compelling Star Wars sports game yet, hence we are stuck with Battlefront and their mobile stuff, of course. Worse, this means - virtually by definition- that all the great story-driven single-player-focused Star Wars experiences many fans, myself included, are yearning for, are indeed more-or-less entirely out of the question.
It's just sad, that's what is. I'll say this so, with EA still owning studios proficient in racing games, I think a micro-transaction driven podracing game is not entirely out of the question here
Funny to see the histrionic reactions EA get, especially to what is hardly a controversial statement. In reality them bailing would be a big loss as if you want to keep selling systems for local multiplayer and keep selling online subscriptions you need sport games.
FIFA is good too barring the missing Online Friends connection where the blame partly lies with Nintendo anyway. It would be a shame if it didn't fulfil its potential with some further tweaks.
I can't see them dropping support personally, Switch is going to be too big to ignore. If they do, well it's their loss as well.
No doubt they will sling another game this way. But it's just more pr talk about buy Fifa or we won't support
@electrolite77 "Switch is going to be too big to ignore." I say that depends on if they can keep the flow going. 2017 has done a good job, but will they have enough to keep going?
@UmniKnight Well, Capcom is another can of worms entirely.
They are known for simply making the most stupid business decision due to a complete lack of market understanding.
My go to example: "The 3DS will never sell" back in the day...
As for Bethesda, im pretty sure Doom and Skyrim will pull in enough people to make them worthwhile.
Doom for...well...being Doom and Skyrim for the simple fact that its a 100+ hours RPG on a portable device that didn't make huge cuts to run on the system.
I can see Wolfenstein selling a little less though.
First, it is "just" the second game, second, its a "spectacle" game.
Meaning its presentation makes up as much of its appeal as its gameplay, and that will suffer from the Switches hardware.
Stuff like Doom can very well stand on the gameplay leg alone and Skyrim is an older title in general.
If the support was "worth it" comes down to how much effort it took to port these titles. Skyrim was probably largely based on both, older console versions and already existing Shield ports (iirc). Im not too familiar with the current idTech engine and its porting capabilities though. It might be "just a flick of a switch" or they actually put quite a lot of works into these ports, i can't say.
@Einherjar I'd say DOOM falls in with Wolfenstein though, since you want to see the glory of ripping demons apart. If the demons look like bum then it'll not give you the same level of satisfaction I warrant.
Would be interesting to see some actual figures on how well Fifa did sell on the Switch (or didn't sell)
The ps4 has an install Base of around 60 million and the Switch around 7 so I think a little perspective is needed when making comparisons.
It'd be a shame if the sales are really poor because I happen to love fifa on the switch and thought it was brilliant.
So much so I've sold my ps4 as it's now surplus to requirements (admittedly another reason I sold it was because I felt so badly let down by gran turismo sport)
Oh yes, wait for those sweet holiday number to trickle in and provide definitive "proof" that there isn't a market for EA games on Switch. That will satiate the investors.
@Nintendoforlife You think it was a poorly made game? I've not played it, but from most things I've read, it turned out quite well. Considering FIFA is one of their traditional big sellers, I don't think it's out of line at all to step back for a moment before custom developing more games at this point. FIFA18 wasn't a simple port job, after all.
Personally, I think more EA games would be great, but I could also see how the Switch may not have the same level of demand for those types of games. Nintendo audiences have typically been less interested in many of the types of games EA offers, and those that are interested purchase the games on other systems. Of course, I'll get attacked by a few people stating how they are Switch owners that would love to play all the EA sports games on their Nintendo console (This is a Nintendo site afterall, of course you'll get that) but if the games just don't sell, the reality may be there isn't a big enough market to justify big AAA EA titles being custom developed for Switch.
@UmniKnight And then you remember that classic Doom, to this day, is still more popular than its new incarnation
But jokes aside, i know where you're coming from.
But i really think that the Doom formula can very well stand on its own, even with heavily downgraded graphics.
But we have to see that thing in motion for more than a few secs to judge it.
EA, I’ll give you three bits of advice - take or leave ‘em
1. Nintendo fans are incredibly loyal; your wait-and-see attitude flies in the face of that loyalty
2. Don’t release a gimped version, lacking in features
3. Don’t price your game so high when you’ve neglected point #2
And as a bonus point of advice, which costs nothing more, not even a micro-transaction, ditch this loot boxing, penny-chasing, anti-gaming attitude. Gaming is about fun, especially Nintendo gaming - that should be your focus
If that is true, i take my words back what i said earlier when fifa came out.
I was getting excited about EA getting on board, but this lowered the enthusiasm again.
But then again there are enough who are bringing their games.
cant wait to see/read what 2018 will bring for this amazing hybrid console!
What weird voodoo did Nintendo do to get 2K, Bethesda, Sega/Atlus and Ubisoft on-board, but not EA? I mean Bethesda has never supported Nintendo and even scoffed at the idea of supporting the Wii U, yet within the first year they have brought Skyrim and Doom and promise Wolfenstein 2 for early next year. EA, for some bizarre reason are playing a wait and see approach when they can make a killing off the Star Wars licence on the Switch this holiday season.
EA sometimes you need to ask yourself is it Nintendo or is it just you that is keeping the audience away?
Outside sports titles what does EA even make anymore? I don't really care for sports so that removes me as a potential customer. Sims? It's always seemed meh to me so another strike there. I can't think of anything else they have, that right there speaks volumes. They make games that in the past haven't had much of a presence on Nintendo hardware so the Nintendo audience typically either does without or picks up those games on other platforms. That's not to say they aren't welcome on the Switch, but I personally look at sports titles as glorified AAA shovelware. What they should be doing is bringing a variety of games and seeing what the audience responds best to.
@roadrunner343 Yes, it was poorly made in my opinion just read this review. It echoes a lot of my thoughts on it: http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/10/10/fifa-18-switch-review
@DonSerrot EA also makes Need for Speed, Battlefront, A way out, Anthem, Titanfall.
@Nintendoforlife None of those excite me. I know I'm far from speaking for everyone but I have to say that I'm not part of the audience they're looking for. That said, there are titles you listed that I'm sure would get more attention than a sports title.
It is frustrating to hear them still saying this. If the Switch was struggling I'd understand but clearly it's not. EA don't like not getting your own way though and on Nintendo consoles they never have. For them to throw in the towel this early is really pathetic though, childish even. Regardless FIFA 18 is fantastic, I don't care what anyone says. They gave us a great game it didn't sell, so be it.Switch and EA will continue to be successful without each other.
@DonSerrot That's sort of the point everyone is making. The excitement was purposely left out of the game. EA wants to give us a crap port and use that as an excuse to take their time with other ports when we don't buy it.
@FinalFrog "No American wants that."
Except MLS is going from strength to strength. The brand new side Atlanta United are pulling 75, 000 crowds so clearly interest is growing big time in by far the biggest and most participated sport in the world. Meanwhile in the US's national game the NFL interest continues to dwindle away.
Fe is still coming, right? That game actually looks decent.
It’s simple really. Don’t charge people 60$ for 70% of a game when it’s the same price as the other consoles, and I don’t want to hear about the portability being a feature. Just ridiculous from EA. A company once so beloved is know in the business of pissing people off.
Ha ha ha ha ha! Oh EA, you're full of crap, continue being the pantywaist losers we've all come to know.
personally i don't need any EA games.
EA doesn't make good games anymore anyway...
Sure it be nice to have Sims 4 on the Switch, even when Sims 3 on my windows phone has more features then PC version...
This is why I can't stand EA. And if they're basing it on Fifa sales, well, it was a half-a$$ed version of the game compared to what PlayStation and Xbox owners got, of course it didn't sell. What an idiotic company.
On the day that Fifa came out, I bought Pokken Tournament DX. Not everyone likes football games, EA. Release some other titles in different genres before writing it off.
They should have just done Unravel 1&2 on the Switch.
Trying to sell a full price FIFA on a system that can't compete in graphics or online play with the other home console is insane. FIFA fans not jumping ship for that.
This should be a wake up call for 3rd party who think "you can take it on the go" makes everything fine.
In all honesty, without a defined online structure yet, EA doesn't see the potential to monetize their games after release. Most of what's offered on Origin right now relies on DLC and IAPs. They can keep that garbage, even if some of those games are winners.
They do have another title coming in 2018, "Fe". It looks much more interesting than FIFA. I'm looking out for that.
@FX102A
Yeah, too bad.
But, i got new games that also even better than those EA games.
Recently, i played Portal Knights PS4 frequently when i borrowed PS4 from my game shop owner ( I played ps4 inside his game shop , the game shop owner has 1 PS4 connected with his 43' TV so anyone can try his PS4 to test their PS4 games )
And damn... i have to buy ps4 in order to play The Sims 4 PS4 version because i don't want to install in my PC since my PC is not built for gaming ( My PC is for working my drawing, typing, listening / watching mp3 & mp4, etc). The Sims 4 probably can make me playing All Day long due to a lot of things to do from designing my own house, shaping neighborhood, create public places, etc. Despite of lesser titles, The Sims 4 PS4 & Portal Knights are more than enough for me to play very interesting games all day long.
Give us NHL and you get my money.
@beautifulstrong I’m with you on that the only EA games I own are the road rash series on the megadrive/Genesis
EA makes another idiotic decision.
I would jump for joy if none of their dirty greedy games would come to Switch. I hate EA.
I remember the days when EA released more than just sports games, shooters, and Need For Speed...
Now they can't even get a single-player Star Wars game onto the market without execs screaming for "moar microtranzactionz, moar live servisez".
Only thing I would have wanted was Dead Space related, anyway. So I'm pretty much done buying EA games altogether as it is!
I don't support EA on the consoles I already have so this is no different.
@Nintendoforlife
That IGN review is (legendarily) (but typically) awful. It's a much better game than that suggests.
@FinalFrog
Some Americans might not want it but it's the most popular sport in the world and the biggest selling video game in the world last year. No point putting minor sports on the system if a football game fails.
@UmniKnight
Not worried about that at all. All Nintendo's franchises on one system gives them a lot still to release and a lot of ways to keep momentum up.
@electrolite77 Well my opinions are based on the lack of features other we have. Not neccesarily gameplay, but lack of features outside of the journey I don't like.
@Nintendoforlife
Not being able to play friends online is stupid but that's on Nintendo as well as EA. Personally I find it impossible to care about the Journey when the Switch game achieves its main goal of playing a quality game of football. Also the more I play it, the more I think it's less scripted than the other versions I've played which is a big issue normally.
I seriously don't understand this company. It doesn't take a genius to figure out what would sell EXTREMELY well on the Switch.
Bring Need For Speed to Switch, hell, even if it's a remaster of Hot Pursuit!
Make a Madden game, incorporate the screen for hidden plays in local multiplayer, with multiple Switches, like they should have done with Wii U in the first place. (Player with Gamepad would get hidden play screen!)
Or better yet, revive MUTANT LEAGUE and make it Switch-only for timed exclusivity!
Bring back ROAD RASH! Slap on some awesome HD Rumble and heck, throw in some motion controls if people feel like getting adventurous with melee combat!
THE SIMS ON THE GO, EA!
Ugh, EA's inept ability to create FUN games anymore is so disheartening.
@electrolite77 Sure, but Nintendo alone can't keep going forever, not without sacrifices that I wouldn't want to see made (crunching their devs, or exhausting IP).
Think they will at least release Fifa 19 (same game, different roster). It doesn't cost them much
I feel this is just an extension of mid-way through the 7th generation. Where as soon as they were able to start integrating microtransactions into games like FIFA, EA only focused on the PS and Xbox userbases and kind of just stopped giving even the most remote of a damn about games where they couldn't charge extra.
The FIFA license requires them to make atleast one FIFA game for each major platform. I imagine EA think it's beneficial to maximise their sales on PS and Xbox because Sony and Microsoft are more likely to give them more freedom to for stuff like microtransactions. I couldn't see why else they would perform such blatant self-sabotage on the Switch version. Such as how the game sold a fraction of the other versions yet managed to sell out on amazon. co.uk right after launch and became be unavailable for a whole week(when sales are highest), suggesting EA produced so few copies that it couldn't possibly have succeeded in any circumstance.
I guess that means we will never get a Star Wars game for the Switch. That’s a pity. Though with EA shutting down Visceral and making their single player story based game into yet another heavily monetized multiplayer game, I must confess I couldn’t care less about EA or its IPs.
soccer not selling well in the US...no way!!!!! it's not the switch EA, it's you EA.
A new 'Burnout' game would be nice. Haven't seen a new one since 2008 (Those 'crash' spin-offs don't count).
EA is just a bunch of idiots. No one can say the switch will not be successful at this point and by them not jumping on now could lose them a lot of sales.
For a reminder of what sort of business EA is, Guru Larry Bundy Jr. just put out a new Fact Hunt video about EA buying out and gutting studios:
10 Companies EA Bought, Then DESTROYED!!! | Fact Hunt
https://youtu.be/gbIJZSzrF1k
@Anti-Matter MySims!!! Yes! I thought everyone had forgotten about those games!
'What a bunch of jokers!'
Hmm, lets think abt how to bring microtransaction onto the switch console by the end of the year to see if we can bring more games for it. EA, big F U .
@bitleman big budget empty shell?
Seriously EA. Its going to take time to win back Nintendo fans after the crappy ports you've been giving us over the last 10 years or so on Nintendo platforms. Considering there has been 7.6 million switches sold sales are not going to be fantastic for fifa. Not only that both the Xbox one and ps4 had console bundles with the game but there was no switch bundle i believe. This time next year there will be around 12-15 switch users out there and if you give us proper fifa updates and not just a copy and paste game each year us Nintendo fans might just take you seriously and buy the game each year. If you cut us off again then it shows how bad of a company you really are.
Smells like EA is gearing up for another Golden Poo Award.
@UmniKnight
Nintendo need to put out a game a month, which they can easily do given they usually put out over 20 a year. If they can do that momentum will keep ticking over which keeps third-parties interested which builds more momentum etc.etc.
@electrolite77 We'll see, I'm just hoping they can secure AND retain the thirds this time. This whole "Nintendo? Ewh, no don't want to do with them" of third-parties has gone on long enough.
@Qun_Mang RIP Phenomic, Westwood, Pandemic, Mythic and Bullfrog. I wouldn't be surprised if, eventually, BioWare is next.
Why would EA want to support a console that primarilly can't be connected online? All EA wants to do is make shoddy multiplayer only games with pay to win lootbox systems. That couldn't work on the Switch.
@UmniKnight
I agree, though I think that's a fanbase issue as much as it is Nintendo's issue, or indeed the third-parties themselves.
For me personally, I don't care because I think EA's games are generally joyless, microtransaction filled garbage that seek to churn out shoddy multiplayer experiences that leech people's money.
From an industry standpoint though... maybe your game isn't selling well because you couldn't be bothered to port it properly? Even if they love EA in the first place, people don't want to buy a buggy, unfinished mess. The company half-assed the port and is surprised they aren't making money on it.
Electronic Arse.
Not that it bothers me because I actually don't buy into EA games, Bulls Vs Lakers back on Genesis was the last time. But I'll just make a general comment, just my opinion, not an actual quote.
Alright. If you're going to be in business with a partner, why half step about it? I'd say Nintendo knows EA's negotiations and business dealings with them more than the public. But every time EA makes these kind of statements publicly I get the impression that they simply don't have the desire to fully support Nintendo's hardware. There always seems to be this "imaginary bar" being set from the CEO's at EA concerning Nintendo. "Testing the waters", so if the Switch succeeds in this then we'll do that, or if they do that then we'll do this..
Just pull your support for Nintendo if that's the case, EA. The ports you do put on the Switch will be gimped (what's the catch) kind of games anyway, at full price or close to. There's gamers out there that really like to buy into your games. But come on now, words get around quick especially concerning info about what differs from port to port. Responsible consumers are not simple minded or naive to not know the differences.
A junk version of a game with limited appear to begin with, that then has savegames that are almost the size of the entirety of Super Mario Odyssey? Gee, I wonder why sales suck.
EA are idiotic, incompetent and are just trying to divert blame.
@electrolite77 EA sees anything that doesn't make them billions a failure basically. They also don't take in consideration that the Switch is going to outsell the Xbone in a year or two. Another reason is EA is too lazy to port over their games.
@sremick
What game are you talking about?
@electrolite77 The same game this article is about? FIFA 18
@sremick
It's not clear. You referred to a game with limited appeal (I think that's what you meant) but this is about FIFA, which is huge. Best selling game in the world last year. You also referred to a huge save file size but it's 215MB on my Switch. I think you're thinking of NBA.
@Nintendoforlife I don't agree with that statement at all. EA is a huge, publicly traded, for profit company. They have absolutely no incentive to provide crap ports to use as justification to not bring additional games to the Switch. If anything, FIFA 18 proves that's not the case - it was custom developed, using a new engine, specifically for the Switch. If it turned out to be a crappy game, it's certainly not because they were looking for a way out - they would love for their games to sell like hotcakes so they make more money. If there's one thing EA loves, it's money.
Hopefully it's clear that I'm not defending EA. Haven't been a fan of most of their games for quite some time, they certainly have some shady business practices, and based on your feedback, doesn't seem they did a good job with their Switch port. I just disagree with your take on their motivation.
@roadrunner343 Just to clarify I am not saying they sent out a bad port just so they could say "Ha told you nobody would buy it, now leave us alone". I'm saying they have very little interest in supporting the switch, and now they have an excuse to take their time with whatever else they might bring over.
@Nintendoforlife Fair enough. Sadly though, I have seen other people on this site accuse EA and Capcom of exactly that sort of behavior, which makes absolutely no sense from a business point of view.
I do agree with you though that FIFA's performance on the Switch may harm future EA titles. It'll be interesting to see how things pan out, but I wouldn't be surprised if EA ignores the Switch entirely, even if the Switch is highly successful. It's a lot more effort to custom develop for the Switch, when it is a comparatively simple port job between the other consoles and PC.
@Gs69 Road Rash is awesome. I always forget that it was ea.
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