It's another big year for Nintendo, as it continues to move towards the NX generation of hardware and increase its output on smart devices. With the Wii U estimated to ship less than a million units and with the 3DS projected to decline again, the big N will need new products to perform well to hit its profit targets for the financial year; in its annual results it estimated net profits of 35,000 million Yen - roughly $314.9 million / £216.1 million / €278.2 million - up to the end of March 2017.
In the officially translated transcript of Nintendo's recent 76th Annual General Meeting of Shareholders, company President Tatsumi Kimishima answered a rather tough question that suggested Nintendo's projections for operating profit were "less than fully credible" - ouch. Kimishima-san highlighted, however, that NX, 3DS and mobile releases can help the company hit its targets.
The Nintendo 3DS business has already surpassed cumulative global hardware sales of 58 million units. We believe that the Nintendo 3DS business will generate sufficient profit as long as we can deliver the software titles that are planned for release. The Pokémon series is marking its 20th year since the first title was released, and the series has topped total sales of 200 million games worldwide. Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon are the latest series titles, scheduled for release in November 2016, and we expect these to make a substantial profit contribution.
While we announced our shipment forecast of 800,000 Wii U hardware, we are forecasting total sales of ¥500 billion for this fiscal year, about the same as last year. I am not currently able to talk about concrete figures for unit sales, but we are planning for NX to make up for falling Wii U sales. Software for NX will also contribute to sales and profit.
We are preparing to release around five smart device applications (including Miitomo) by next March, and predict that the smart device business will also contribute to profit.
One factor that merits caution, however, is the UK's decision to leave the EU. While we still do not have a clear picture of how this will affect exchange rates, a continued strong yen may impact our sales and profit, as overseas sales account for more than 70% of our total sales.
It's reassuring that Nintendo is still, at this stage, sticking to its announced plan to release NX in March 2017. Now if only we knew what it was, that would be handy - it's stated elsewhere in the Q & A that production is currently being put in place for NX, so perhaps the inevitable leaks from a manufacturing plant are only a few months away.
Or Nintendo will announce it first - either option is fine by us.
[source nintendo.co.jp]
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But not Zelda? We are seeing a big change in this company and lets hope it's not to the casual.
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hopefully the NoC thing was true?
...maybe not
well i hope so, i really can't imagine gaming without Nintendo
The UK isn't that big of a market for ya. It's heading towards Brazil levels of "Is this going to cost more than its worth?". And sadly...I'd advise pulling out of that.
In these times, continuing to push Wii U in the region is a no-no, that ship sailed about 3 months into the life of the box, that's just how the UK is, plain and simple. Retailers don't care. TV Channels don't care on a wider scale. The populace doesn't care. Hell in this day and age if its not FIFA, its a low baller.
The 3DS is steady, but here's the catch. I can offer a sample size of a good 100 people right now, all from my course of game designers. I can tell you right now, Xbox 360, PS4 and ESPECIALLY PC, are the dominant forces. I mean hell, I've got a room all to myself off to the side of the house, even has a huge bulky door, and I'm the sole console user in a house of 6, while the rest link their systems and away they go, also eating the Wi-Fi since the router is in one of their rooms.
Will the NX sell here? In the wake of the Brexit stuff, raising exchange rates around the world vs sterling, and with Nintendo UK being a subsidiary of Nintendo Europe, the eventual talks will likely affect that too. Common market, tariffs, taxes etc. etc.
Is it going to be worth launching this system in a Microsoft and Sony and PC /dominated/ region of 60million populace, around 10% of that likely to be gamers, when the position of the country in the world is going to make things more expensive and therefore sell less, and also affect how companies such as Nintendo operate from outside the region? I simply cant say, the future of the country up to March, the market and what the status of the world will be is a mystery. But I can say this.
It's going to get expensive for Nintendo, and given how they've performed here in the past, I'd rather see them gain more money from every other region, and boost profits further, than drop that for keeping this region floating.
Of course we don't know what the NX is, what the games are, and how the market will look in March but, as it stands all we can do is predict. And it's not sitting pretty.
TL:DR I hate this country.
I bloody hope the NX is region free because I am dreading the impact of leaving the EU market and becoming a much smaller UK market (one which isn't particularly big on Nintendo games!). As much as I am hoping for a return of the SNES days, importing US games was not what I had in mind lol!
Profit doesn't mean quality. You see, some smartphone games are extremely profitable due to microtransactions, but most are poorly designed in a matter of being good, enjoyable games that offer a decent user experience.
Nintendo is venturing to the territory of microtransactions since 2013-2014, but they hardly presented some decent free-to-play games free from the pay-to-win aspect. I hope they don't push this concept too much on their future products, the company I grew up loving isn't like that.
They need good games that can print money by being good, not money-printing games that somehow we expect to be good.
@BLPs There's no need for Nintendo to pull out of the UK. Their consoles still sell there, even though they're easily in 3rd place behind Sony and Microsoft. So long as enough people continue to buy Nintendo things, it'll make sense for Nintendo keep selling.
I can't wait for NX! Though, I still don't believe that console coming out March 2017. It's been confirmed twice by Nintendo, but still don't believe it. The NX is being revealed in the fall, and It'll get delayed, if Nintendo like HAS to delay the NX ones it gets revealed in the fall, it'll actually be kinda funny since they confirmed it twice, it would come July 2017 or November 2017.
@Spoony_Tech They are talking about the fiscal year I guess, and zelda it is still not coming soon, but they kinda mentioned it by mentioning NX software.
@crimsontadpoles But at what point does diminishing returns come into play? Here's the thing, yes if it sells keep selling. But if it sells but doesn't amount to enough to cover costs of getting it sold, then there is a problem. Plus it's also easy to overlook that Nintendo UK is a subsidiary, and gets the EU stuff simply because woo free market. Not anymore we don't. Which means things have to be restructured to make Nintendo UK a separate entity, or those prices go up in accordance with how much the EU hates us.
Did I mention I'm drinking right now because I see no optimism lately. At all.
@Charinzardon Zelda is suppose to release in Japan's fiscal year. I'm just afraid these comments are going to be games more geared to the casual down the road even though Zelda is geared far away from the casual crowd.
@BLPs I don't like the way things are headed either. We'll just have to see how bad it gets, though I don't think it'll be quite as bad as what you think. Things will get trickier for Nintendo in the UK, but I don't think they'll need to resort to pulling out.
"I am not currently able to talk about concrete figures for unit sales, but we are planning for NX to make up for falling Wii U sales."
In other words, the Wii U sales numbers are so embarrassingly low that they won't reveal them. And of course, the NX will make up for that by replacing the Wii U.
Show us NX already. The fact that you don't means you don't trust your own product. It's July. March is 9 months away. That's not a ton of time to hype a product up.
And boy the 3rd parties better be playing dumb and are working on games for it. Cannot just be a bunch of 1st party games, more than half of which are WiiU remakes.
Great Britain did not help matters at all either.
@BLPs The UK hasn't actually left the EU yet, the Brexit vote only brings the motion forward to the EU Council. The ones who are really in charge, who are appointed by powerful people and are not elected or accountable to the public, can still make a decision to accept or reject the Brexit vote. If they reject it, then the referendum is held off for 2 years, meaning that technically, the UK could still remain part of the EU. Even if they accept it, the exit doesn't go into effect immediately. Just a bit of info that the mass hysteria of the situation seems to have completely missed.
Personally, I would say the TTIP Free Trade deal is a far bigger looming corporeal threat to the UK economy than the potential ethereal specter that is Brexit. I wouldn't be surprised if Brexit turns out to be a manufactured crisis intended to do things like instate leaders who favor the TTIP and distract everyone from it's ghastly portents.
As long as both sides of the Atlantic can fend off the TTIP, the UK market will be fine. And Nintendo will do fine in the UK, as well. Maybe not always smashing, but fair enough.
@GrailUK Could actually be good as they don't have to translate it to all the other EU languages - Super Mario RPG was one reason it didn't get released in the UK but did in the USA.
heh heh, that's nice.....SHOW US THE NX ALREADY!!! ><
I think one benefit of detaching Nintendo UK from Nintendo of Europe would be the ability to sell the North American versions of NX software without waiting for another 6, 7, 8 languages to be added..
This would surely be more advantageous?
@BLPs the UK is a large market and remains very wealthy. There's no way Nintendo is pulling out, even with things as bad as they are (do ANY supermarkets carry Nintendo stuff these days)?
shareholders BTFO if NX is delayed beyond March, lol. i hope Kimishima knows what he's doing when he says NX will make up for lack of Wii U profits this FY.
@HaNks Oh, NX will make up for Wii U... Right at the end of the fiscal year to pump up the numbers. Kimishima is more cunning than he looks...
@rccASIA Switching over to just selling NTSC machines in a traditionally PAL region... That would certainly throw a lot of the UK industry for a loop...
The way they're holding out on information for the NX makes me wonder if it's going to be even more of a leap than the Wii was, and they're either worried the market won't bite or that other companies will pull a Playstation Move/Xbox Kinect before it's even out.
I was going to say it's a digital-only system (possibly even with some kind of optional subscription service), but that's only if all those "Now it's a cart! Now it's a disc! Now it's a squid!" arguments are fake.
Well, here's hoping the mobile and NX initiatives generate decent profit . . . but I'm personally far more interested in them delivering amazing experiences.
PS. And don't go blaming the UK leaving the EU for any potential problems either. lol
I really want NX to be good, specially since now I know it's worthless to buy a XBone or a PS4 now. Please, announce at least 10 games between 1 and 3 parties, and a at least 5 good indies, and I'm all over it.
@PlywoodStick Haha. There's no need to switch to NTSC machines is there? You just take the American version, dump it on a PAL disc/cartridge. I think it's frustrating to wait for the additional (and pointless for the UK market) localisation when a consumer-ready version is waiting courtesy of NOA!
But.. but... but they said NX won't replace WiiU:-(
They can hope for the NX to make up for it, but all the idiotic silence and lack of hype is not good. If there won't be any games and they will be Nintendo again with no support for 3rd party, NX will bomb even harder.
@Dave24 But but but...we still don't know what the NX is going to be.
Also, how long do you expect them to continue to support a platform that has underperformed for going on four years now?
The problem with people like you, is that no matter what occurs, you will find a way to spin everything into some betrayal or broken promise on Nintendo's part. Then when it is revealed that you were wrong, you'll just move on to the next phony concern issue.
PS: What exactly constitutes the NX being a replacement for the Wii U or not?
... Having a dual screen or gamepad controller? - I'm sure you'd explode with negativity and contempt if that were true. So what criteria must be met for the NX to be a "replacement" and what criteria must be met for you to consider it not to be?
Please be specific.
Kimishima peeking out of his hole to tell us nothing again....
@rccASIA That sounds intriguing. But then what about having more masterpieces like Xenoblade getting cockney accents in the voice acting!?
@PlywoodStick Yep, the one positive from the Brexit fiasco is that TTIP should be rejected on the same basis - a threat to sovereignty. I have to wonder why people have hardly uttered a murmer over that. Although the referendum was advisory and will need an Act of Parliament to be passed to make it legally possible, I can't see any reversal of the decision to leave. We're stuck with it now whether we wanted it or not, for good or ill.
I don't think Nintendo will pull out of the UK market, certainly not before the NX launches. I do think that prices will increase, perhaps making digital a truly viable option. If prices go too high, I might even consider importing and going totally digital. That's if I like the NX. I hope I will, but I would really like a reveal.
@PlywoodStick Hence why I said the only thing we can say is based on what's happening right now. March might be safe but the first two years of the system could be riddled because of it. And that's the scary part.
@C-Olimar I only see Nintendo stuff in GAME and it's VERY SMALL.
@crimsontadpoles I don't expect them to pull out but if the climate doesn't alter it's cooked up hard.
Bring on Mario NX
They should change the codename from NX to Not Telling You.
@PlywoodStick Haha, true. But if Charles Martinet can play a quintet of Italians, he can play a gaggle of East Enders too 😝😛
Just show me the new system!!!!
But out of all seriousness, I really hope they are able to pull up their profits. I'd hate to see Nintendo fall.
@rushiosan They use the term Free-to-Start because they realize the term Free-to-play is stupid. And Nintendo's Free-to-Start games gcan be perfectly enjoyed without spending a time. If you are required to spend however, it's done in a clever and fair way like Rusty's Real Deal Baseball, where haggling for discounts becomes a game in and of itself.
So Nintendo Believes Nintendo NX, Pokémon and Smart Device Games Can Deliver Promised Profits
"We are planning for NX to make up for falling Wii U sales"
It would seem odd if they thought the opposite.
Wow, really? I figured the NX was for a favorable tax break, and Nintendo was putting all of their hopes into Paper Mario: Color Splash! How could I be so blind?!
@Action51 TRIGGERED!!!! I know, white knighting is no easy job, but there is no talk about betrayal or your butthurt over nothing:-) There is no spinning at all, just what they said about NX and U, so I guess you also attack Nintendo, which makes your sperg even funnier.
@rccASIA LOL, now that I have to 'ear!
@TheMisterManGuy The terms means different things, though. Free to start means you can play for free up to a certain point, then are walled off from the rest of the content (or slowed down to the point of being crippled) until the player pays up. Free to play allows the player to keep progressing without paying anything, but lacks the benefits of those who do pay. Most of the time, those benefits just amount to (usually massive) time savers.
@PlywoodStick I understand the point of TTIP, yet I find what you say about European Union's institutions perplexing - the Euroepan Council is composed of the heads of all nations of European Union (http://europa.eu/about-eu/institutions-bodies/european-council/index_en.htm), the Council of the European Union is composed of the ministers that are part of the governments that rule said countries (http://europa.eu/about-eu/institutions-bodies/council-eu/index_en.htm), the European Parliament is elected through direct elections (http://europa.eu/about-eu/institutions-bodies/european-parliament/index_en.htm) and the European commission must be approved approved by said parliament, that also must approve the president of the Commission with a majority of the votes (http://europa.eu/about-eu/institutions-bodies/european-commission/index_en.htm). Therefore the "powerful people and are not elected or accountable to the public" are either the heads, the ministers of the countries or people appointed or at least approved by them and approved by the parliament.
EDIT: that ending was bad and worthless, removed it. Sorry for that.
Am sorry but I don't understand this statement as it's Nintendo's job to advertise there products, whether that's on TV or by any other means.
"One factor that merits caution, however, is the UK's decision to leave the EU. While we still do not have a clear picture of how this will affect exchange rates, a continued strong yen may impact our sales and profit, as overseas sales account for more than 70% of our total sales."
... Gdammit Britain... You had one job...
@Dave24
"they said NX won't replace Wii U"
Back in the day, Nintendo also said the DS wouldn't replace the GBA, and would instead be a "third pillar." So I wouldn't put much stock in Nintendo's promises regarding platform support. It's pretty clear by this point that the NX will be the Wii U's successor.
@Rhydas
Gdammit England and Wales 😉
@FlaygletheBagel The GBA lasted well into 2007, so I wouldn't say it was replaced quickly.
NX MUST be region FREE or ELSE. If Nintendo want to embrace all players again, make it region free. That pesky region lock must be ended. Just let player buy imported games and mixed match their collection. There is nothing wrong Western people buy Japanese games or vice versa. And.... no more Freebies but required something to play. Don't force player to spent money again just for buy a thing to start the game. No Black color oriented, give us at least 5 different starter color. Black color for console or handheld are TOO mainstream and not cool at all.
Just. Show. NX. Already.
@BLPs: "I can offer a sample size of a good 100 people right now, all from my course of game designers"
Honestly, a sample of only game design students in your class is a really, really bad example to give.
If we're going to go that way, I will pick a sample of game students from University of East London that have both Wii U and 3DS. (Mind you, I live in Denmark, working at KnapNok Games, but I know plenty of people from UEL).
In any case, while I understand your pessimism, I don't think it's going to get so bad that Nintendo would ever consider pulling out of the UK market.
Whenever there is a new videogame on Nintendo platforms you can easily see those games quickly getting to and retaining spots in the top 10 sales for that month.
Nintendo is still a HUGE cultural icon and the UK is easily one of the key markets for them.
Yeah, well I'm sure they thought Miitomo would do well too.
Interesting about brexit and the £ vs ¥, is there a reason NL hasn't covered brexit and the impact on british and european gaming?
@Morph It's probably because nobody knows what's going to happen, least of all the politicians who are supposed to be taking the country through the whole process, they're a bit preoccupied with intra-party bickering...
@PlywoodStick
NTSC and PAL is not used when consoles are connected to a TV through HDMI.
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"production is currently being put in place for NX"
What does that mean?
@Mister_Wu Those are all EU links, so...
It's not all set in stone, but some of the back and forth is recorded on Wikipedia (the page has some good sources):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_deficit_in_the_European_Union
Ultimately, though the Executive branch, in conjunction with the Banking branch, holds most of the power.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Commission
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juncker_Commission
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Council
Different things can play out in an exit situation like Brexit, depending on how the Lisbon Treaty is interpreted. For example, in Article 50:
http://www.lisbon-treaty.org/wcm/the-lisbon-treaty/treaty-on-European-union-and-comments/title-6-final-provisions/137-article-50.html
"A Member State which decides to withdraw shall notify the European Council of its intention."
So right off the bat, in clause 2, it's not a parliamentary or public decision process that must be convened, but the council appointments to heads of state made by parliamentary and other members.
"That agreement shall be negotiated in accordance with Article 218(3) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union. It shall be concluded on behalf of the Union by the Council, acting by a qualified majority, after obtaining the consent of the European Parliament."
Well, consent isn't really a vote. And here's Article 218 On the Treaty of the Functioning of the EU:
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A12008E218
Article 218(3):
"The Commission, or the High Representative of the Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy where the agreement envisaged relates exclusively or principally to the common foreign and security policy, shall submit recommendations to the Council, which shall adopt a decision authorizing the opening of negotiations and, depending on the subject of the agreement envisaged, nominating the Union negotiator or the head of the Union's negotiating team."
So here we see more nominations, not public control or parliamentary decisions. That's where we really start seeing the democratic deficit. And furthermore on the current person with a leading role that process:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federica_Mogherini
In addition to having an inordinate amount of power in this process, there is an alarming characteristic of hers: she is very pro-US. Including towards... the marketplace forces behind the TTIP.
http://www.euractiv.com/section/trade-society/news/mogherini-pushes-kerry-for-energy-chapter-in-ttip/
So she's not entirely who she is normally described as, is she?
My take away from this in the context of Nintendo's well being in the UK, is that for them to be affected as little as possible by such policies, Free Trade agreements like the TTIP should not be supported.
@BLPs Nintendo still has some sort of retail presence in South America.
If banana republics get their Nintendo fix, why can't the Queen?
@PlywoodStick I appreciate that you too did the research on hte matter. The deficit is there in the form of heads of state and minister frequently not being appointed through direct vote in the countries. Remember that the Council and European Council (two different entities) are formed by ministers and heads of the state. Those aren't tipically elected directly but the parliaments of the countries elect the heads of the state that then form the local governments that are approved by the parliaments. That's what happens in Italy at least. So, the Council and the European Council suffer from being indirectly elected, much in the same way as Italy didn't directly vote for Matteo Renzi nor any of his ministers. Incidentally, Mogherini was part of Renzi's government.
So, yes, there are several improvements to the current treaties that have to be done, in order to either make the European Parliament more fundamental and not bypassable or to allow for more entities to be directly elected.
And of course, lobbying in the European Union is not unheard of. There is actually a list of lobbyist in the European Union you can access (ec.europa.eu/transparencyregister/public/consultation/listlobbyists.do), and the TTIP surely is bad, especially considering the European Union has a GDP that is not so lower than that of the United States (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)), so it's not like the US lobbies can propose controversial conditions on it and nobody must bat an eye.
Returning to Nintendo now, Nintendo of Europe is in Germany, so it must be seen if it will be practical for them to sell in the UK if some significant tax on imported goods will be made in the UK. Of course, a separate trade agreement will be made with the US as soon as possible (and be careful about that! I don't see them trying something different from TTIP unless they want to favor nations splitting from the EU through incentives, which would be a smart move on their part), so it must be seen what will be the best way in the longer term for Nintendo between importing from US (NTSC is no longer a problem now) or importing from European Union. I think the volume of games sold will decide, as of course you need great sales to make importing from US practical from an economic point of view.
EDIT: looks like the TTIP might come to a dead end. I seriosuly hope this is what will happen: http://uk.reuters.com/article/us-eu-usa-ttip-italy-idUKKCN0ZL1JV
EDIT 2: of course, the United States aren't the problem, the lobbies are, so that part was reworded.
@Judgedean Your positivity is most welcome mate ! Thanks
Hopefully it'll all generate more bucks too put into future games etc.
@BLPs Same. Tiny section in Game, even smaller at CEX. Grainger Games, iirc, actually has a relatively decent Nintendo section.
@C-Olimar Grainger games isn't a thing down my way. Nearest store is 100 miles away. Damn north south divide. -.-
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