Michael Pachter Thinks Miitomo Will Have Trouble Tempting People Away From Facebook

Guys, I hate to say this, but this guy is right. Nintendo once again fails to entertain their mature/adult target age with this one. That may be unfair to say since it isn't even out yet, but I don't think anyone really needs this when you have a Facebook account. I think this game could have potential to be a small time-passer "game", but nothing more. I was really hoping Nintendo was working on an amazing first game for the mobile genre.

Pachter has friends?

I mean, I kind of agree with him about Miitomo.

Why are people so surprised? iwata did mention a Mii-based mobile app was on the way.

@Lord_Redwood to an extent, I agree — there's a reason why Google+ fell to the wayside. Even though the interface was arguably better than Facebook's, the latter had to strong of a hold.

That said, people today are a bit tired of what's on Facebook. I hear many in my generation (21-30) saying Twitter or Instagram or whatever is the new Facebook. People are disenchanted by the facade, ugly opinion posts (especially during this US election), or frivolous garbage that "friends" post on Facebook. People are looking for a new satiating platform. I don't know if Miitomo is it, but it shouldn't be neglected as Pachter believes. I'm curious to see where this goes.

Nintendo has announced up to SIX mobile games will be released. This is just one of them.

As much as I agree in the fact that this "game" that is also a "social network" is a bit disappointing -even though I have no interest for mobile gaming-, Pachter is the worse "analyst" there is, he "predicted" the 3DS would fail and the Vita would reign over because of its superior technology, he has a trend of always bashing at whatever Nintendo releases and he's constantly praising anything else. The guy is a bad joke.

i'll happily wait to get more information because honestly it doesnt really bother me but i cant help but wonder how the NX miiverse is going to be set up or maybe how everything will be intergrading with one another

Hi pacter. Long time no see. The way i see this new app and how it's being intended. It'll be to compliment the medium instead of overtaking the medium...... It's too early.

Haven't there been enough posts and comments about Miitomo today, couldn't we save the attention grabbing Pahcter headline for tomorrow?

After seeing the drop in Nintendo's share value - due to Miitomo - earlier today, I wondered how long it would take for Pachter to speak his mind. He didn't even wait 24 hours, I guess it's a personal best of his.

Pokemon Shuffle and Pokemon Go! don't show that Nintendo is putting one of the IPs it owns on Mobile? Nintendo part owns the Pokemon Company, after all. Miitomo is not everything that Nintendo will do and it is specific for players of Nintendo games to interact in specific ways that have yet to be fully outlined. I would point to Pokemon Go! in particular as an indication that Nintendo is prepared to allow its IPs on mobile.

@Lord_Redwood yeah but his point is more that they're wrong for doing that because Facebook already did. His reasoning for his view of this just shows how incredibly incompetent he is. He's a fool for the comment about their intentions with mobile games. They've been pretty freaking clear from the beginning that they weren't just dumping Mario onto mobile.

@rjejr Agreed!

@Sakura Yeah but, with his logic that's not relevant because it's already on a mobile device. Same reason they shouldn't focus on social media, it's already a thing. The worst part of that is that it's what he said!

This guy can't go a day without saying something stupid. I don't know why you (Nintendolife) give him so much attention.

I wonder what causes all this hate from Pachter. Maybe his girlfriend left him for a NES when he was young?

@DarthNocturnal yes, which is why I'm not buying the "blue ocean" idea just yet. I'm just saying that Facebook isn't as king as Pachter makes it out to be — Nintendo could possibly break through

sighs Why can't NL just ignore this guy?

@Megumi because he's too much fun to get angry at

First time in forever that Pachter has been right about something, in my opinion.

I don't really see the point of the app, its to socialize with people only on your friends list? Not all of my friends have smartphones even then we could just text each other without Nintendo's limitations.

Also will this also be region lock friends? >.>

Pachter, you forgot LINE here.

Why do guys post stuff from Pachter? The dude is an idiot. This app isn't competing with Facebook, it's a Tomadachi Life-like social sim.

for the first time ever, Pachter is right

"...Nintendo would take its library of content and move it onto the mobile platform. It doesn't look like they have any intention of doing that." Um Im sorry but anyone with a brain would know that Nintedo would never do anything similar to that. Honestly nintendo sees this market as a cheap way to introducing people to their brand to um guess what? Play Video Games on the Wii U / 3DS and move them over to that pillar. I dont really see whats the whole fuss over Miitomo. I never really expected a huge release for mobile. It just doesnt make sense honestly in their opinion. They want you to buy their consoles not some phone.

I'm going to ask one more time.

What in the world were Pachter and all the other actually expecting DeNA and Nintendo to make?

Meh. Part of me feels he's right and part of me is like, "It's Michael Patcher, whadya expect?"

Pachter is propably little too old to be target audience of this product.

I really agree with Pachter's viewpoint on Miitomo. It's a concept that doesn't work out due to the omnipresence of established social networks, but it also lacks any kind of distinct Nintendo personality.

@Pod Simply more than a social app, I guess. It's currently the only mobile title we have that Nintendo revealed, and this title doesn't give a good first impression at all, considering Nintendo's reputation.
I myself am glad that Nintendo doesn't intend to just port games onto mobiles, but who knows how much time they'll waste on more substantial stuff...

@DarkJamD It's for all ages, not just kids. Do you know how many adults play Tomodachi Life? No, Pachter is very much a designated part of Nintendo's consumer base for mobile products, just like every Nintendo fan out there.

@Pod A game.

Yeah because pachter is never wrong, right?

"a misperception that Nintendo would take its library of content and move it onto the mobile platform. It doesn't look like they have any intention of doing that."

I don't think he means that Nintendo won't ever use any of its characters and franchises on mobile... but that they won't just port existing games and content to it. I can see them creating mobile content with Mario in it, for instance, but not move an emulated Super Mario Bros to it.

I'm not one to knock a professional analyst as it's his job and he surely knows better than me but his opinion on this is just wrong,naive and out of touch.This app wasn't made for you Pachter,it wasn't made for me,a guy in his late 30's.It's for the kids who play around on phone's and tablets all the time,kids who are willing to try anything new,kids that have no connection to Nintendo and are potential future customers.It's a fact that Facebook is being used less and less by the young ones as it's not perceived as being 'cool' anymore.The reason it's not cool is because people like Pachter use it also,they don't want to post personal stuff that their parents might see.As it is,I rarely use Facebook myself unless it's to message my Mum.I chat with friends back home on Whatsapp,my Thai friends on Line,my foreign friends in Thailand on Viber,use Hangout for business,I use Skype for calls,I use Line calls. I see no reason why this can't evolve and be successful too.

Was this supposed to compete with Facebook in the first place?
The Nintendo fanbase... shakes head

I'm curious about the app so I will hold my opinion from what I've read I think it could have potential time will tell ., About facebook I don't think anything I've read made me think Nintendo was trying to compete with facebook but I for one would not be sad to see facebook DISAPPEAR .

Patcher said that it's a disaster, so I'll go ahead and disagree with him like always. Miitomo will likely only have a niche appeal outside of Japan, but that doesn't matter too much. This is obviously not supposed to be a major game. Instead, it should help try to bridge the gap between people and Nintendo.

It's too early to know if Nintendo will succeed on smartphones. It'll only be after they announce a game when we will have an idea of whether mobile will work out for Nintendo.

On one hand, this was a bit underwhelming. On the other, this wasn't made to compete with Facebook, the fact that he thought Nintendo was just going to do something like put Super Mario Bros 3 on mobile is laughable (Seriously, the main point of this is to attract people to Nintendo's systems. Just putting a game that you can already play on those systems on mobile would kinda defeat that purpose.), unless he just meant that he thought they'd use their ips on mobile, in which case the idea that he thinks that's not going to happen just because of ONE out of six games isn't that is ridiculous, and it's Patcher, so I can't really take what he says seriously. I mean, let's be honest here, Patcher is NOT a real analyst. He's a buffoon that just keeps spouting nonsense about stuff that he clearly has no idea about, who only gets the time of day because he got lucky with predicting the Wii U's low sales and Nintendo Life needs more clicks.

This patcher fellow and many on this site don't seem to understand the Japanese market. This will May a killing over there especially with the female demographic. Not everything is made for you guys.

Hey guys, do you remember that time Nintendo sold that console where they only developed one game for it? No? /sarcasm

I mean, he's right about this app trying to be what people are just going to use Facebook for, but why does he get the idea that this is Nintendo's only direction they're going with mobile? Obviously, they're going to develop several, or dare I say, many games on mobile. Does he really think every app Nintendo is developing for this platform is a Mii-based social media service?

@Megumi They want all them clicks

@Nicolai I disagree. Tons of Japanese folks will download this and get on the train to work every morning. When they get home they will turn it on and see what their mii has been up too. It's like a virtual pet but it's you. This will be nothing like social media

@faint I think I'm going to delete that part of my comment, because I really want people to focus on my main point.

But in all fairness, you're right, I guess it isn't really the same as Facebook, now that I think about it.

I agree with him.

This guy is absolutely not right. Wrong, in fact.

First, I'd be surprise if this 'app' didnt feel more like a game (again, think tomodachi life). 2nd-why can't Nintendo take on a social network? Miiverse rocks. So much negativity--all I know is that I wouldn't bet against Nintendo.

Well, no sh**, Sherlock! Of course people are still gonna use Facebook, but if I can have FB, tumblr, Pinterest, Twitter and Miiverse accounts, then what's one more social media account?
Oh look, I'm Micheal Pachter! I'm stating the obvious again so that people think I'm a good analyst! Hurr-ba-durr-ba-durr!

Of COURSE he thinks it's a disaster- he wants Nintendo to fail/become a mobile-only software company and wanted this entry into mobile games to show or suggest ports of core franchises supporting that hope. But his foolishness is proven wrong by this news (if even in a limited capacity) and he can't accept other possibilities.

I barely pay attention to my mobile FB app anyway. I don't have twitter, instagram or whatever else. I ignore them and I'll most likely ignore this app as well. Sorry nintendo, not my cup of tea. Although, this would work great in Japan I think. The culture there fears spontaneous interactions unless you are have a mutual friend with whoever it is you want to meet. According to a friend who lives there.

I don't think that Miitomo is a game, but I don't think it's a social networking app either. It's more like a hybrid. So I'm not going to condemn it based on screenshots and other people deciding (whether right or wrong) that it is a SNS. I think there are plenty of people, across any age group who can find fun in this (don't forget, just because you wouldn't use it, doesn't mean someone else your age and gender won't either), subjecting it to useless because it's a) not what you expected and b) not what you wanted isn't a fair assessment. We have to wait until March 2016 before we place judgement on the product itself.
But I think we can all agree that whether you think Pachter is right or wrong, he's still a little bit of an idiot

@MrSeitaro If I'm not mistaken, he actually predicted that the 3DS would succeed...then it failed at first

@Rockmin
We've got very little info about this, there is nothing to suggest that it won't function as a game as well. It's quite possible that it will function similarly to street pass plaza

@momoiiru
Well said

@Freeon-Leon He's an advocate of The Industry. If Nintendo does something the Industry doesn't approves, he will dislike it. If they do something that pleases them he will defend it.

He's an overpaid cheerleader.

@Sakura Nintendo only owns a third of the Pokemon Company (another third is owned by Creatures, which is partially owned by Nintendo, and the third third is owned by Game Freak, which is a third party).

@Minotaurgamer "He's an overpaid cheerleader" is classic and awesome. I love it, and I totally agree.

@Kaze_Memaryu Target audience atleast outside of japan for tomodachi life is still a lot younger than most people in this site but it is one of those games that older people can also enjoy.

It can't be a social network app. Nintendo being in control of something social network related with their knack for censoring and monitoring will never have a chance against other social media sites/apps. Miiverse only works because it's got no competition on WiiU / 3DS.

@Lord_Redwood lol, do you think their trying to target 'mature'/adults with this??

@OorWullie has a good point. Instagram is all the rage these days.

The thing that kills this argument is that barely anyone under the age of 23 uses Facebook these days. Does he even understand the social media market? Twitter, Instagram, Vine, Snapchat, the list goes on. FB isn't dominant amongst the youth as it once was, and as a result, people look for the next social media service.

No need to mention that FB isn't even Miitomo's competition.

Surely once Miitomo releases I'll never venture into Facebook again, because apparently it 'has' to be one or the other. THERE IS NO MIDDLE GROUND HERE, FELLOW NINTYS!! PLEDGE YOUR ALLEGIANCE NOW

@Freeon-Leon Lol, maybe so.

Patcher said the vita was going to outsell the 3DS... and that the wii sales would drop off in 2007... whatever he says it will always be the opposite. The miitomo will be an amazing success.

I do think Miitomo has potential if Nintendo can market it right, though I don't think it will be the new Facebook or Twitter either. The new Instagram or Snapchat is probably a bit too ambitious as well, but it could maybe be like Pou or Tamagochi if everything goes in Nintendo's favor.

I do think at least in the Japanese market Miitomo will be more popular, but for the western market I think Miitomo will be a "Why not" download just to see what Miitomo is as they probably recognize the Miis and Nintendo's name. The difference from Japan is that I think Miimoto has a lot more potential to be the "cool for a while" kind of app and people getting bored of it depending on how much Nintendo has left to show us.

I will probably get Miitomo as a "Why not" download, but for how long I will use it is another thing and that will be Nintendo's job of making a good system that keep me entertained .

Lol. Never knew why everyone hated Pachter until now.
How can he be so determined if there is hardly any information on the app?
If it has a lot of quirky elements like Tomodachi Life, it has a lot of potential, even in the west.
Apart from that I think that you have to see this in correlation to the japanese culture. People are a lot more introvert over there (therefore the popularity of dating sims, e.g); I think this app was made with that society in mind. But if it is well done, it might succeed elsewhere.

Again, he's a good analyst, just a bad visionary. Analysts are supposed to use lagging indicators to communicate likelihood yet here he's speculating.

It's okay, I think he's right, but it's just gut feel and a bit of logic, nothing indicative.

Yeah, no social apps and games ever work on mobile. Facebook completely owns everything social... if you ignore Snapchat, Periscope, Instagram and social games like Draw Something, Words With Friends and so on. There's plenty of space for something else that tackles it from a different angle.

Plus it's not like Nintendo hasn't played around with this concept before. Look at Streetpass, Pictochat, SwapNote, Everybody Votes and Miiverse. Or games that aren't "games" like Wii Fit, Brain Training, Nintendogs, Mario Paint, Tomodachi Life, Animal Crossing. They have form in this space, you have to give them that.

At this point I'm personally not sure if it'll pay off. I wouldn't write them off though and I certainty think it's a better move than the "all in" approach that people like Pachter wanted.

I fully agree with Mr. Pachter on this one. Honestly, I am not fond of either, smartphone games nor social networks. So the concept of Miitomo doesn't interest me at all. Quite contrary, looking at it makes me wanna play Tomodachi Life again!

All of the cynics repeat after me:

THIS. GAME. IS. NOT. DESIGNED. FOR. US.

"Facebook already dominates everybody who has social interactions. How the hell is Nintendo [or anyone else] going to substitute for that?"

True, Facebook's usage rate is extremely high among all demographics, right now, with the likes of Instagram, Tumblr, Snapchat, Twitter, etc.. /sarcasm
Pachter is clearly thinking only from the perspective of his age group, who could care less about nifty, gimmicky social interaction over more practical, less flashy methods (such as Facebook provides).

Besides, all of those websites can and do interface with Facebook for some degree of interconnectivity (and vice versa), so what's there to think that Miitomo won't do the same?

State the obvious.

He is right. People are not moving from Facebook. Ask Google how competitive the social market place is.

Haters are gonna hate though I guess.

@MrSeitaro are you sure about that.

From what I remember pachter said that the Vita was dead on arrival. I do not remwber him ever saying Vita would be a huge success.

Also he was right about the Wii U. Said it would bomb hard and that's exactly what it did.

Oh Pachter... maybe if we all just, ya know, ignore him, he'll go away! No? Alright, I guess it is kinda fun reading all the comments.

@faint ''It's like a virtual pet but it's you.'' Haven't thought about it that way. If they somehow get that message across, I think it could be fun for everyone; something you check back on once or twice a day.

I still want to give this a try when it comes out but he is probably right. I don't know why nintendo didn't come out with something more appealing to the current nintendo crowd like a mario game.

That being said I think miitomo looks really cute and I'm waiting for more info on it.

There's one vital point most angry people seem to be missing: Nintendo aren't trying to get their existing fans into mobile gaming, but mobile users into Nintendo games. Stupid social stuff like this is exactly what that crowd eats up. And man, screw Pachter.

Honestly, I don't really use much of Facebook simply because of how dangerous it was to me back in college.

This is safer than facebook in a way that its less social and more about finding out about your friends.

We know so little about this app. His brash statements are making him look foolish (again). He seriously thought Nintendo was going to move it's library to mobile where the standard input is nothing but taps and swipes? What a dum-dum.

I'm really looking forward to miitomo!

Suppose its just mostly for kids, kids don't use Facebook or shouldn't

@skywake I completely agree with you. I see miitomo as more of a tomodachi/animal crossing kind of game. It's something Nintendo have done very well in the past so I wouldn't write it off yet. If they throw in daily quests and street pass updates this could be a hit, a few mini games wouldn't hurt either.

Miitomo could be huge, at least in Japan, although I wouldn't rule out the west. Everybody loves daily quests there addictive, add in levelling up your miitomo and you have a winner.

If they could team up with facebook it would be massive!!!

@Pinkman I agree. Replacing Facebook would be difficult for any company. That isn't the intent. There will be gameplay aspect / functionality that will make it unique or stand more apart. It's also more likely to link people who have shared interests in gaming.

I'll be happy when this guy is finally gone. The guy's a complete joke, I don't know why you guys keep posting his dumb opinions.

_{Watch your mouth ~Santa}

Stop writing articles about the industry astrologer.

Erm, who said they're competing with Facebook?

Nintendo aren't trying to create a worldwide media conglomerate with this, it's a fun harmless app where you use your Mii.

And.
That's.
It.

Everybody chill.

I feel like Pachter about every new social, but that being said you should also consider that Miitomo has not the same target audience that fb has.

"I think a lot of the appeal of the concept that Nintendo was going to enter the mobile market was attributable to a misperception that Nintendo would take its library of content and move it onto the mobile platform. It doesn't look like they have any intention of doing that."

Nintendo has been very clear that they will not be porting their existing games to smartphone. Any one thinking otherwise can't blame Nintendo because they can't read.

@brewsky Heh heh...

I, for one, think it'll be great, or at least good. It's not trying to compete with Facebook—that doesn't seem to be its goal, anyways—, so of course it won't surpass Facebook.

@TrikeBoy This too.

Beware, western middle aged men. Miitomo may not be your best choice for social media.

I was on the fence about Miitomo, but since Michael Pacter says it's going to fail, I'm now 100% going to buy it just to support Nintendo and (hopefully) prove that idiot wrong.

@kobashi100
"Also he was right about the Wii U. Said it would bomb hard and that's exactly what it did."

...yet I can honestly say I've had more fun playing the Wii U than any system from any company since the SNES. Maybe it has bombed at retail, but my 50+ Wii U game library has brought me more enjoyment in the last 20 years of my 35 years of gaming than anything. I'm also going to mention that I own virtually every released western home console since the Atari 2600 with the exceptions of the Atari Lynx, Virtual Boy, Neo Geo AES, Sega Saturn and Xbox One.

Somebody mentioned some good points in a group that i post in:

A. Not too much detail yet.
B. It's launching along side the new Nintendo rewards program so it's most likely more of a gui to the account system than a full blown game.
C. It's a mobile game. You know the things you play to burn time while waiting or going to the bathroom.
D. Remember when Animal Crossings came out on the GC and everyone was like WTF is this? Turned out to be really fun for a lot of people.
E. Free to play.

Patcher will be upset unless Nintendo ports its catalog to mobile devices, so outside of that, no matter what Nintendo does, he will hate it. The deal is, Nintendo would be foolish to do anything of the sort. That would just cannibalize their business at such a lower margin. The plan is to create a mobile presence to drive people to their consoles- and this is a sound strategy.

Anyway, up yours, you no talent @ss clown Patcher.

I can't believe this ignorant trash can would ever think that Nintendo would just take what made it successful in the dedicated gaming world and just plop it on mobile and call it a day?

Ugh, the vomit this guy spews. The only thing he is right about is that people didn't see this coming, and that people are disappointed, but to assume it won't take off, or to assume Nintendo would just migrate all of its content to mobile is asinine. Shame shame. I'll be honest I don't see it taking over facebook, but hey if it reintroduces people to Nintendo ,if it has the cool streetpass gamingness, a better communication system then the current offerings from nintendo, if it connects well with every aspect of Nintendo Life then it could do very well, and I see it hitting out of the ball park in japan for sure, we'll see how NA reacts.

That's actually what I thought when I saw it. I think a real Tomodachi Life sequel would do better honestly.

He is right for the first time. Run to the hills hoard water it is the end of the world.

@Adamario Thanks. Edited.

People still use facebook to interact with each other? My facebook feed is nothing but "person x liked clickbait article y"

This is interesting -

http://nintendoeverything.com/kimishima-wants-100-200-million-my-nintendo-members-miitomo-talk-nx-offers-new-experience/

Miitomo outfits will be purchaseable and there will be game elements. Kimishima is expecting 1-2 million My Nintendo members. How many will try out Miitomo, though? How integrated will the two be, if at all? Will there be rewards for use of Miitomo? Will it be the only way to purchase mii costumes to be used in other games?

Not overly impressed with Miitomo as it has been revealed, but an analyst ought to be able to place the app/game within the strategy adopted by the company as a whole, should he not? Being able to relate to the announcements as Joe Public is a valuable skill, no doubt, but still only part of the brief of an industry analyst.

Pachter will cast doom on anything Nintendo does UNLESS it's go third party and make games for Microsoft and Sony platforms - his ultimate wet dream.

So...what? Did you guys really wanted SMG3 or a Zelda game on a smart app. If they did announced that you guys would be complaining cause you would have to pay to unlock levels
The meeting wasn't meant for us but for other consumers. Nintendo didn't hype this this app up. The fans did.People expect way to much from Nintendo. You still got Pokemon go and other games that are coming to the app but do you guys really want that? Even if the game doesn't appeal to you doesn't mean it won't appeal to someone else.

They could have utilised the power of Mario IP... but they went for this.

So many people overreacting. smh. This was never meant to replace facebook, nor be the next form of social media. Anyone who still thinks this This app was probably the proof of concept for their mobile front. They aren't going to go out and make a mario or zelda game to kill their own hardware sales. This app is basically to test the waters, and make a name for themselves. Once other people who don't actively follow Nintendo news sees they are making mobile games, then Nintendo will send out other apps.

And everyone has been complaining about too many mario games, and not enough new IPs, yet those same people want another mario game on a smartphone. A bunch of hypocrites if you ask me.

@Hinaru77 My thoughts exactly.

@Mijzelffan Well said

Pachter attempting sensationalism. I normally don't take major issue with him, but comments about Nintendo moving their library to mobile makes me wonder whether he's even paying attention to the industry.

One thing Patcher forgot. The Nintendo account Will allow you to sign in with things like facebook. Nintendo life already pointed out that "Nintendo wants to make it easier for users to create and use these accounts, so users will be able to register with their Nintendo Network ID, Facebook, Twitter, Google, email, and possibly many more."

This means that Nintendo may not need to compete with facebook if it works with it.

First problem with this app is it feels like a cross between truth and dare without the dare and a forum with topics like what would you change an why ect.

Second problem with this app is that people have retracted a bit on facebook over the year not trusting this kinda release of personal information. There are a lot of negativity and social media post that cost people greatly in the long term. If Nintendo can get passed that then yes it may succeed.

It's not a Facebook beater its a nice app where you can chat with your friends about Nintendo and gaming related stuff and Facebook is for your general stuff etc.

This is like saying people won't stray from Facebook to use Twitter. It's BS
In a world of pointless distractions what's another pointless distraction?
This is designed to compliment other social networks.

People forget that Facebook has seen decline in both new and existing users.
Twitter has also seen the number of users and new users both drop significantly over the past few years.
Instagram is also leveling in growth and users.
YouTube has seen it's users decrease too.

Google+ surprisingly has done really well for itself, especially due to Android users jumping on board.

I could easily see people who don't trust existing social media jumping on board Miitomo. I could also see parents allowing their kids to use it over Facebook.

I can also see Miitomo becoming a gossip app over time .

@Kaze_Memaryu @BacktoNarnia

Serves them right then, I suppose.
While Nintendo did give access to all their franchises, they have been saying the whole time not to expect Mario or any of the others to appear in their usual guise.

And to be honest, I think this looks more interesting than any pocket farming waitathon with a recognizable face on it.

Ah yes. Just post any article mentioning Pachter, sit back, and watch a tidal wave of traffic visit your website. Such a simple yet super effective strategy!

I wish we could all just ignore Pachter. He never has any interesting insights to share, just negative trolling.

It was my first impression that it was less of a game and more of a social app. In my opinion it's more of a companion to the upcoming Nintendo Account, which is perhaps why it's also been delayed to coincide with Miitomo. It's far from a disaster. So their first app doesn't make a splash, so what? Nintendo doesn't need it to be successful to continue in the mobile market, and enough people will still download it to make it a moderate success anyway - because it's Nintendo. The same reason why plenty of people will buy the other 4 apps they have planned. If they gain popularity among the mainstream casual smartphone crowd, even better. These other 4 apps/games may even take advantage of aspects within Miitomo, and so this is just setting up the initial platform.

It's always been quite clear to me they weren't going to import their library of classic games onto smartphones, at least not while they have a separate store on consoles. It may happen eventually, but when it does I suspect it will be cross buy between console and mobile, linked via the Nintendo Account. IMO this is positioning themselves for the NX and providing some sort of link between console and mobile.

@CB85
Actually tradition holds, when ever Pachter says something the opposite always comes true.

@CB85
This is not really true. He sounds negative becuase he's an video game investment advisor, and Nintendo are impossible to figure out, so the people he has to advice are aggravated.

Pachter himself is quite a big Nintendo fan.

I've heard that Michel patcher is kind of the worse thing ever, but he has a point.

I agree with him that this isn't the best strategy, but moving Nintendo's lineup to mobile isn't either. What they need to do is take their IPs and create spinoffs for them on mobile that better fit that environment. For instance, they could make an endless runner Mario game on mobile and keep the traditional Mario games on console and handheld.

Like a lot of people have been saying, I feel like his comparison to Facebook is at least as out of touch as he thinks Nintendo is.

Miitomo probably isn't going to do well with all the hippie moms or overly political grandpas on Facebook, but whatever. It (arguably) isn't for them anyway.

Maybe it won't take off, but if it does fail it won't be related to something as outdated as Facebook.

Facebook rules the social media market? Oh ho ho, oh boy. Not even close. And this app is a Facebook wannabe? There was a screen where it showed the mii inside a room walking around. So this has to have some gameplay.

I'm sure the response from someone at Nintendo will end up being "we're not trying to take on Facebook" and even after that being said, even maybe on multiple occasions, Pachter and people like him will keep saying "NINTENDO FAILS AGAINST FACEBOOK. WHY ARE THEY TRYING TO TAKE ON FACEBOOK STILL? FACEBOOOOOOKKK!!!!" or they'll just change the social media network they're referencing.

@SanderEvers Well I forget because I don't use Instagram. I have a camera that actually takes better pictures than my phone so everything that I would upload is taken with my camera instead.

Pachter is usually full of shit, but he does makes good points every now and then.
And then.
Though, Nintendo ain't trying to go after Facebook with this; they're going after LINE and other chat apps.

He's such an insufferable word-the-sounds-like-swat.

@Rockmin I use Miiverse more than all the social media networks I listed combined, and would use this because it's basically like Miiverse in that it's made with gamers in mind.

@Rockmin but that's not why he thinks it's a disaster. And we know there are actual games coming.

Well I'm actually excited for this.

Not meant to replace Facebook which is for old people like me and pachter and teens in high school who live in that little microcosm of life where they think that's where life begins and ends. Facebook fits well into that insanity as it can measure your social "success".

This is a toy you check in on once in a while that actually invites you to have some fun with others.

On top of that, it will develop into something more, probably as a key central point for earning rewards for games on dedicated hardware and even as a launching point for advertising.

Any disappointment I feel is just that it doesn't have instant excitement swirling around one of our favorite game characters and that the example is so limited that I'm left wondering about many specifics.

I do like that the Miis get a clothing upgrade.

As for the notion that if you know somebody you somehow know everything you'd care to know about them. Are the people you know that simple? Or is your perception of people that simple?

I am not a fan of this game/app, but I am sure it was not built to compete against Facebook. It bears much resemblance to Tomodachi Life, with your Mii randomly communicating with other Miis without your control. Dosen't sound a thing like Facebook, where you say what you type.

Our old friend Michael Pachter XD

I really don't see Miitomo setting the mobile world on fire. I hate to say it but Nintendo isn't showing me anything that gets me excited for the future, hopefully the NX does.

this app will be your virtual identity, a digital version of you that will be part of everything you do on your new Nintendo account from then on, it makes perfect sense as a first app..