Weirdness: In Some Parallel Dimension, This Nintendo Cross Presentation Might Actually Be Real

the controller looks great besides not having concave analog sticks

I like whoever made this up used one of my favorite 3DS Sizzle Reel themes from the Nintendo Direct in October 2012!

This is just terrible lol
My favourite facepalm is seeing the 'new' console looks just like the original Wii! Also the name ' Nintendo Cross' is just awful

I don't know what you're talking about! It's clearly real! Just like unicorns.

Oh lol, a 'proper' account- and reward system announced!!!

I like how they randomly decide where to put capital letters in the text

@MightyKrypto Haha best bit

I like how it appears to take place in a small room, with a small tv or projector, yet a large conference hall audience can be heard applauding at the end.

Painfully, agonizingly labored.

...Kinda like the logo, though. (Probably a free public domain font for all I know.)

Was this some school project? I like how the presentation is only a couple of minutes long and showed nothing of the so called launch games, or for that matter actual names. But plenty of Wii U games were shown. Also funny there's only basic system specifications, no CPU or graphics card details etc.

In that parallel dimension, the Wii U sells like hotcakes and the PS4 is having problems trying to get their fans to upgrade.

I also like how no one in the video pushes any buttons on the controllers and tablets, but the characters clearly move by theirselfs

Also got to love the static hands holding the mobile devices

I couldn't stand playing those games on a touchscreen alone. Need those buttons. This is worse than whatever happens next for sure.

@Iggly But Sony would also not be in masses amount of debts and having to sell off the laptop, TV, audio and smartphones division.

@MightyKrypto Ah you got there first

@CamWFC91 lol, i know right!!!

@Robotron2084
Yeah, this.

So... Because it's embarrassingly fake, you post an article about it with the YouTube video. Whatever lowlife made this is just going to reap the sweet, sweet YouTube AD money for sites like these spreading it, even if they're passing it off as a hoax. So dumb. This person doesn't deserve to be rewarded.

@CamWFC91 If Nintendo came up with technology to do THAT (not having to push any buttons anymore), it would be revolutionary!!!

No "F-Zero Cross"!? I don't want it.

this is so sad

(...Gags...) This is more fake than Federation Force.

Yeah, that 'proper' at the end kinda gave it away, lol. Sure wish for WiiU compatibility, though, but I doubt it, since they said they're 'starting from zero' with NX...

'WiiU GamePad available seperately' Yeah, like THAT will happen after all this time!

will it be a home console or a handheld? anyone?

AMD Jaguar, 8GB of Ram hello Nintendo PS4.

@Jazzer94 Or Nintendo Cross(X)-Box

Playing video games without pressing button, touching screen, or even moving, now they've reach every demography. From certain disabilities to inanimate people, now everybody can play.

Hmm... Interesting concept, but it's very fake...

For one, it starts with a title card that's in Japanese, and then moves over to English for the rest of the video. The controller on the other head is totally a Photoshop; from a design point of view, you really shouldn't have a power button placed so near an analogue stick like that. The NFC pad itself is a little too close to the start and select buttons, you need to think that the base for Amiibos need to touch the surface, rather the Amiibo would end up touching the buttons than the NFC pad.

To be honest, it's a nice concept, but it's really just a home-made flash animation that was then filmed with a phone with the lights out and Shigeru and onlookers put in as sound files.

As for whatever NX will be; this, Cross, system sounds about what I think the NX will be. It'll be backward compatible with the WiiU games, feature a streaming functions for the 3DS, and offer new games to support whatever hardware is in the system. What I would like to see is not only streaming over Mobile devices, but to have NX games stream over to the 3DS just like the PSVita with the PS4.

0.21 and further on. Notice how the ''transition sound'' doesn't even come from the video on the projector, but is rather a superimposed one.

I mean, the whole thing looks and feels extremely fake, but that's about the first thing that truly caught my attention.

lol 500 GiB.... who abbreviates it like this?? I see typos all over the presentation with the use of dashes also. Not so convincing and wow that echo effect. Did they even listen to it before posting it?

I wonder how long this took them to make. I say 2 hours

COPIED FROM MY COMMENT ON ETIKA'S VIDEO...
The things that make me feel this is fake... 1.Nintendo has never recycled the same controller design. Plus, if you can play Wii U games on it, then obviously, the Wii U Pro Controller would be compatible with the NX. Like the Wii Remote on Wii U and GameCube Controller on Wii. 2.The console designs is just way too lazy to take all this time to work on. 3.Zelda a launch title? No way. Nintendo already confirmed that Zelda will be launched on Wii U next year. Yes, Twilight Princess was released on Wii and GameCube, but that was simultaneously. There is no way that Nintendo will launch a new Zelda game 1 year apart and that goes for porting the Wii U Zelda. 4. Many 3DS games require the use of both screens. There is no way that will work on a single screen device. The only thing that seems realistic to me, is the launch year. 2017 seems very likely.

@LinkSword It actually says 500 GB. But for RAM it reads as 8 GiB.

This is the wonderful world of Marketing Vs. Computer Scientists. A Megabyte to a Marketer is 1000 Bytes, but seeing as there's no absolute binary number for 1000, a real megabyte is actually 1024 bytes. Wikipedia tried to solve this issue by introducing something called "Megibytes, and GibiBytes" as true binary numbers. Personally I just wish that we taught people how to count in binary, it really isn't terribly hard, but I guess that Decimals win.

Anyway, getting away from that tangent, it makes sense to read RAM in GibiBytes and Hard drive space in Gigabytes as RAM is always in units of 1024, whilst Hard drive space is typically in units of 1000.

If this were NX then once again it would be completely pointless as far as I'm concerned. It is basically just a current-gen system again, but it would be coming out closer to next-gen than this gen, which would once again put Nintendo in a position of having a "next-gen" console that would be a generation out of date compared to the competition, once they release their true next-gen systems. If Nintendo were just to make the same kind of machine as the competition again and go for these specs with NX then it would be another fail imo. Same goes for just shoehorning current Nintendo games onto touchscreen platforms with virtual touchscreen controls. If Nintendo did that it would be one of the worst possible decisions it could make imo.

This is about as bad an idea for NX as I could imagine—just another underpowered home console, that adds a stupid gimmick in being able to play Nintendo console games [badly] on mobile devices and basically nothing about it that is genuinely exciting, unique or cool in any way, shape or form. Getting those three AAA first party titles at launch would be sweet but that's about it and that's kinda just stating the obvious.

Some people simply don't get it.

Also; there actually really is no need for another Nintendo box under your TV at all if Nintendo does this thing right, imo.

I think I've already provided a much better idea for what NX could be (and while you might not get, or even like it; it's at least a trillion times better than the idea in the video above): https://business.facebook.com/iNCEPTIONALSOURCE/posts/706543209491500?business_id=623156907830131

The fakest thing is the 2017 date. The NX will be out in 2016. This E3 was a pretty clear indication of that with it's total lack of major new announcements or newly announced AAA-level games, and total lack of attendance by major Nintendo developers, specifically Retro.

I take it everyone else has notice that NX would stand for Nintendo Cross, like how XC stands for Cross Country?

@Quorthon I don't think the NX is coming in 2016 in the slightest—certainly not if it's just another traditional type of console like the idea in the video. The NX probably won't even be fully revealed at E3 2016 imo, and even if it is then it's still unlikely to make it in 2016. I'm thinking 2017 is the earliest you'll see this thing.

UNLESS...

...it's basically the idea I have already proposed and then it probably wouldn't be too much of a problem to release it in [late] 2016. In fact, it would probably be to its advantage to get it out as early as possible:

https://business.facebook.com/iNCEPTIONALSOURCE/posts/706543209491500?business_id=623156907830131

I think their lack of understanding of where to place hyphens in the text gave it away.

@Robotron2084 There probably is; just to point out to some of the more gullible people out there that it's bull and not to take it seriously—otherwise some people actually might

sounds more like a fanboy's wet dream than anything else. Also, the console is a black wiiu in a wii base? pft!

on the other hand....with all these rumors and fakes coming actually true...I don't know what to think anymore.

How about the very un-nintendo like font of the word "Cross"?! This is a great distraction though.

@minotaurgamer Lol... yep

Hands up who guessed the launch titles before they were announced?

o/

I know we're supposed to think this is a massive 50 foot projection screen like they use at E3, filmed from someone using zoom, but doesn't it look ODDLY like a 20 inch flat projector filmed from 6 inches away?

@minotaurgamer As opposed to the many more numerous rumors that were fake? The percentage is still pretty low on rumors

@GrailUK o/

Fake but atleast the creator of this also likes the idea of the colored ABXY buttons being a system standard.

"Proper account /rewards system"?
Nintendo doesn't talk like that! They would say New and improved!

I can't see how using a tablet without buttons instead of the wii u gamepad could even work.

One thing I noticed was that when it zooms in on the Pro Controller, and pans around, you can tell it's just a flat image, not an actual 3D render.

@MightyKrypto Nintendo has come up with that technology! It's called a "Super Guide"!

@Robotron2084 Slow news day, good for a laugh.

@defrb NX is a home console. Reggie confirmed it in a recent interview with Forbes.

@mystman12 hah lol... not exactly what i had in mind though

I hate virtual buttons on tablets. give me a controller anyday. That said, i hope the next console DOES utilize the pro controllers, since they are damn nice.

Yeah, it would be nice, if some things from the video would be real for the NX (or whatever it will be called).

Like "proper account- and reward- system"

AMD Jaguar is old news. The real NX better be coming with the latest AMD architecture like the upcoming Zen.

Lol "NX is new hardware, and it will start from 0."
Proceeds to show Wii U games, 3DS games, the Wii U Gamepad, and the Wii U Pro controller (which, to be honest, should be used as the foundation for NX's controller).

Now, going back to reality, while I doubt Nintendo will be able to get their consoles games streamed onto a mobile device (no physical buttons, digital buttons block the on-screen gameplay), I do hope the next Nintendo console can stream content onto the next Nintendo handheld (if powerful enough, which it should be). It would be similar to PlayStation's Remote Play feature, only the handheld is actually a popular and viable product with its own library of AAA first and third party games.

@westman98 And the handheld wouldn't be shot in the foot with overpriced proprietary memory cards.

@IceClimbers
Yep almost forgot that lol

@Kirk

This E3 PROVED that Nintendo is not working on Wii U and 3DS as anything resembling a priority. They have NO GAMES to carry the Wii U through 2017.

NX will be launching next year, to be revealed earlier in the year, get a full boost at or around E3, and then released in the fall. There is no good reason to think the NX is going to remain absent until 2017. For that to be true, we'd have to think Nintendo is stupid enough to attempt to support the Wii U for a full year and a half (2016-2017) or so with fewer than 4 games.

No, NX is coming in 2016. Nintendo can't afford for it to come any later.

@jpfan1989

Yeah, that was a pretty funny red flag.

Everyone is calling it fake, you do realize this is going to cause this to be real, right?

Wii 3? or Wii NX?
ether way im with Nintendolife on this one, (pretty weirdness, bad fake but weird,)
also it looks like the person took of Wii U Controller Pro name off (along with the Inputs) and re place it with NX name and ABCD inputs

@Quorthon I tend to agree with you, but I'll also admit that I half expect them to release it in Q1 2017. This because they will do the NX's reveal at the next E3, and they have NEVER released a console in the same year after a reveal.
@Kirk you've been really plugging your idea/concept of late, haven't you? Twice or more in the same thread might be a bit too much, though...
I also don't think that Nintendo will ever go that way.
P.S.
Been very busy with setting up my own company so haven't had time to read your Sci-Fi stories yet. I'll give you a heads up when I do.

@Quorthon I'd be willing to bet you that NX won't be out in 2016.

A sportsman's bet—since I'm too poor to bet anything else.

If NX does release in 2016 and it is just another new home console, of the standard type we'd expect, then I think Nintendo will have made a very bad move...

...Sega level of bad, imo.

@TheRealThanos I'm posting it anywhere there's a chance someone at Nintendo might see it. lol

Nintendo almost certainly won't go that way, and I personally bemoan that decision; unless whatever it's coming out with next is some kind of revolution and/or paradigm shift in the industry.

I read that story you suggested to me. Was pretty good.

@Kirk Don't know if you've already done that, but putting it on Gamasutra's forum instead of on NLife will probably give you a bigger chance of reaching someone, since that site is totally built around the members being people from the industry, so you'll meet a lot of like minds and people that are in the know...
Yeah, that story. I loved the ending so much, I read it twice to see where the tipping point in the story began, since I kind of missed it in the first read through...

@TheRealThanos I tend to just post it when there's an article that pops up in relation to NX on one of the sites I visit, or when these sites maybe touch upon what Nintendo could do going forwards—where it basically makes sense for people to put forward their own ideas.

The only thing with the story was that I went back over the early parts, after the ending was revealed, and noticed that some of the wording could be construed as a little misleading; such that you couldn't really guess the end coming because the author had kind of removed the chance you'd come to that conclusion with his specific wording, which was a wee bit unfair imo (not that I even remotely saw the end coming anyway). Other than that though it was quite entertaining.

...Honestly, I have this urge to make a "leaked video" just to mock the leaked/fake Nintendo videos out there. xp

Not that good at video making, so, yeah. :c

To use @Damo's words:

In fact, there's little point in publishing this article.

@Kirk Well, that kind of was the point of the story. To be able to identify with the main character and experience the change in the same way that he did. In the end you as the reader are the only one that truly understands, so I personally also feel that the moment the writer sort of detaches you from the main character is truly well written. And if you ever read more of his stories, you'll find that it is simply his style of writing. It appeals to me but I can understand if it is not equally appealing to everyone, even if you do like sci-fi.
But out of curiosity: have you subscribed to Gamasutra?
@shani I think you need to re-read who posted what...

@TheRealThanos Yeah but you can't basically explicitly say the character is one thing at the start of the story, only to pull a fast one on the reader at the end.

I think it would have worked better if he'd only implied he was that thing at the start, instead of explicitly saying it, and then when the end came I would be laughing at myself for not seeing it coming.

Instead I was like "But wait...he specifically told me he was something else at the start of the story".

Was still interesting, with some cool ideas, and a pretty enjoyable read though.

I'm signed up to Gamasutra but I rarely go there.

@TheRealThanos
What are you talking about? In the article, @Damo wrote "In fact, there's little point in listing the reasons as to why this video is clearly bogus, as we'd be here all day." I just responded to that.

@Kirk Yeah... I tend to not try and improve a writer's story. The man has received multiple awards in this genre and like I said: it's his style, so you also sort of have to try and crawl into a writer's mind to understand his intent every time you read a book or else you will always find something that you don't like, no matter how good the writer is.
And ehm... in the beginning he wasn't a "thing" yet. It was probably many a reader's expectation that the planet/surroundings would adapt to him because of how it was initially described instead of what actually happened, but it was exactly that which I thought was so great about it...
@shani Ah, that. I referred to the comments section, since most of the time the @person is used for that, not to directly address the writer of an article.

LOL at "Proper account - and reward system."

Definitely all of the official terminology there then...such terminology, so proper, wow etc.

@TheRealThanos Really? I see it used all the time to "summon" (yeah, someone actually called it that a few days ago ^^) the writer of the corresponding article. Like BW84, MitchVogel etc.

BW84 and Damo even posted under this article themselves. The writers are pretty active on NL.

BTW I don't mean to be rude but I still think this article is click-bait and a complete waste of time. Because it contains nothing worth mentioning, it just produces clicks (like I am doing right now^^).
But now that I see that @Robotron2084 already had made a similar post, I feel kinda stupid for not seeing it.

@TheRealThanos Well let's be very clear and careful here, because this is starting to get into territory where you're basically implying—even if it's not your specific intention—that I can't have an opinion that's as valid as this guy because he's some kind of "acclaimed writer" and I'm not. This is done indirectly, whether it's intentional or not, by using yourself as the comparison to the writer but in response to a conversation with me where I am specifically questioning one aspect of his writing in this particular story.

I reject the very notion that his writing can't be questioned or challenged, by either you or me, right out the gate.

So, just to be absolutely clear: If the guy is going to reveal the main character is an alien at the end of the story then it's bad writing imo to tell the reader the main character is a human at the start of the story. He specifically calls the main character a 'man' at the start of the story when describing him—his height I think it is, where he says something like "He was a tall scarecrow of a man". He might even do it more than once but I didn't dig in that much detail.

So, to me, it's a little bit of sloppy writing and the main niggle I had with the story, and just because I haven't won a writing award I don't think that makes my opinion/assertion any less valid regarding this particular example.

Like I said though; other than that little niggle I enjoyed it and found the premise quite interesting.

@shani Yeah well, it's summer and it is indeed a slow news week. At least we have something to read, even though not all of it is highly intriguing material.

I'm glad this is fake.

@SepticLemon I'm pretty sure you quoted the wrong person.

@Kirk I feel the need to apologize even though nothing I said was meant to insult. Take it from me that this is never my intention; saves me the trouble of having to repeat this to you in the future.
I only compared myself to the writer, not you. And I also told you what I do to be able to understand the writer better. Sometimes that also means reading something multiple times, not just because it may be a good story, but also because I truly want to understand the writer's intent. If a writer has a story going a certain way, then I assume that it is on purpose.
Take Game of Thrones for example: I've read all the books and was horrified at the death toll that included most if not all of my favorite characters.
Obviously the story would have gone differently if some of them survived, but that was not the writer's intention within the larger picture of the story that he was trying to convey. And I never felt the need to write or email R.R. Martin to question him on that. I just trusted the writer and the story and stuck with it and I'm still a fan...
So, in short: no offense intended. I'll try to be a bit more transparent next time. And please don't take this as an insult but you do seem to have a very short fuse, my friend. Which brings me back to the first part of this comment. Because I know we both mean well, I don't mind clarifying and/or apologizing where I would tell someone else to take a hike...

As for the guy being alien: he's an astronaut on another planet so of course he's an alien; we would also be aliens, even though in our eyes we're human. He certainly was a humanoid though, and later on the planet had transformed him into a dog alien, which accounts for all the food and so on suddenly tasting very good where it first didn't. Hence also the title of the story...

@TheRealThanos Yeah, I tend to have a very short fuse when it comes to people questioning something I say or do. lol

God knows where it comes from but it surely has something to do with my childhood and/or things that I've experienced while going from my formative teen years or something.

So wait...

Then I read the story differently to you I think.

My take was that he was this weird alien creature all along but it was just that we as the readers were/are supposed to be reach the end and think "Oh dang! I assumed he was a human right at the start but it turns out he was actually an alien all along". You know, like the human condition, where we always think of ourselves as the centre of the Universe and all that; so we just presume the protagonist must be human—because we're arrogant like that.

I thought the point was the author was playing with our assumption. This is why I had a wee issue with him saying the guy is a man at the start only to then say, No, he's actually an alien at the end; which I think would be unfair to us as readers. If however he was changed into an alien by the Mars creature/base thing then that's a different take, and I actually missed that completely.

Link me the story again...

@Kirk Why do you think I had to read it twice? I also wanted to know what or who changed. But the food, water and house were all still the same, so the conclusion could only be that one. And I've never heard of an alien called Bill Jenner...

@TheRealThanos Link me the story again, and I'll have another quick skim.

If that's the case then I take back my criticism, and apologise to both you and the writer.

No need to do that, we don't have to be of the same mind about it, but now that you've gotten this other description of it, here it is again:
http://www.google.nl/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCIQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fm.friendfeed-media.com%2F2760f7617963aa5c32515f7dfe609ed5962d78a4&ei=AjuUVYymM4KqU_iwgXg&usg=AFQjCNEa7PNO0Ysu1Fh1Br0vfSeiRzL0Aw
Enjoy!

@TheRealThanos Well if the author intended it a certain way I certainly don't want to do him the injustice of claiming it's something else.

With my story however, anyone can feel free to interpret it any way they want; seeing as I leave it intentionally ambiguous

Meh. The "XDS" one was a lot better.

@Kirk And having me think it was just a lead-in to the book that you were writing, so well played, sir. Talk about writer's intent...

NX is actually a codename for Nintendo XCube, the major surprise of the next year. Microsoft and Nintendo are joining strength against Playstation Sony. The first step is the re-realise of Rare classics for XBone and the next step will be the Nintendo annoucement of Nintendo IP's comming to Windows systems and phones - no android or apple.
The console will be actually a PC builded around WIndows 10 and integrated with it.

@Kirk By the way, have you ever read "The World's Shortest Horror Story"?

That's basically a Wii U with a Wii style stand, isn't it? Come on, at least try.

@TheRealThanos Christ; I def read that guy's book all wrong lol

It's obvious he is an actual man all the way through until the end—I mean he mentions 'man' and 'earth' multiple times—so the only conclusion is that he must have been a man from Earth originally, who was changed by the Mars base thing.

How totally slow of me

I read it a tiny bit rushed rather than fully focussed, so when it came to the end I just thought "Oh, ok. I actually thought he was a man all along but he's some kind of alien. How presumptuous of me." then I quickly went back to double check how I could have missed the fact he was an alien—to see if it was really well written in such a way that it never quite said to the reader either way what he was—and saw the bit(s) where he used the word 'man' at the start and just thought that was the writer being a bit lazy.

Turns out I was the one being a bit lazy.

LOL

No: What's the shortest horror story in the world?

@Kirk "The Last man on Earth sat alone in a room.
Suddenly, there was a knock on the door."

@TheRealThanos That's a brilliant horror story

@TheRealThanos

At the same token, Nintendo tends not to wait longer than 18 months between announcing a new console and releasing it, as I've illustrated before, with the Wii being potentially the only exception of the last three generations. For instance, the Wii U was announced in April 2011, and released November 2012. This is perfectly in line with NX.

Nintendo has not given us a launch date for NX, but we have some pretty damning evidence. Most notably, as I've said, the utter lack of games announced at E3 to carry their hardware through 2016. We know about a whole bunch of 2016, and even some 2017 games for other platforms. Nintendo also did not reveal that they were working on any major new titles across either the Wii U or 3DS, which strongly indicates that their major teams are hard at work on something else they didn't want to show.

On top of this, Iwata told investors he expected to be "back in Nintendo-like profits" in the fiscal year ending March 2017. The way to make good on that? Release a new console November 2016 and take the gamble there. The Wii U and 3DS are both selling worse than not only the Wii and DS, but also the GameCube and GBA. They are slipping bad, and neither platform has longevity beyond 2016, and this much is obvious.

No matter what, Nintendo is going to end up releasing as stop-gap, mid-generation console that is doomed from the start simply due to when it's coming out, as early/late/mid-gen console releases have a history of failure.

The absolute best Nintendo can hope for right now is another flash-in-the-pan fluke like the Wii and DS. They are not going to return to industry dominance with consoles, and while the Wii itself had sales, it still paled in comparison to it's contemporaries in games, support, libraries, and longevity.

That all noted, Nintendo's best bet is to push out NX sooner rather than later, and to wash their hands of the Wii U immediately and try for that flash-in-the-pan, which is most likely to be their last hurrah on the home console side. They will find money in mobile and being a third party. They are not going to find it in making home consoles, and outside of the fluke of the Wii, they have been on a steady decline since the NES.

@Quorthon Well in terms of looking at it from a Shareholder point of view it's probably best for Nintendo to get the NX out as soon as possible. From a loyal customer, hardcore fan and just gamer in general point of view; I personally feel this would be insulting in very much the same way it was when Sega started releasing and then dumping one console after another in very short timespans, or so it seemed at the time, and to me that's about the worst long term move Nintendo could make in its current situation.

Look at where Sega is right now because of such thinking...

The last thing Nintendo needs to do right now is foster more disappointment, frustration, anger and maybe even hate among its current and ever shrinking base of consumers. I mean if Nintendo drops the Wii U and moves onto the NX in 2016 then I think a lot of its most loyal fans are going to be utterly outraged and that's not a good business strategy imo. There's a lot of people already saying they've decided not to buy future Nintendo consoles simply because of its attitude regarding the recent E3 and the mostly disappointing half-*ssed filler titles it showed; so just imagine how much of a fallout there's going to be if it dumps all those loyal Wii U owners, somewhat early, in order to move onto the next thing.

I'd rather Nintendo thought of a smart way around this problem and out of its current situation, like I believe I am doing with my own proposed idea for NX, rather than just sh*tting on loyal customers in the hope of maybe turning a quick and easy flash-in-the-pan buck by jumping ship and starting with something new in the middle of a generation.

There's lots of reasons why the NX could come in 2016, as well as many why it probably won't, but in a perfect world I don't want it to and I really hope Nintendo knows better too.

@Quorthon All of which is why I said I tend to agree with you. It's going to be a new experience for them though, so they have to tread very lightly this time around. I'd forgotten all about the Iwata/investor bit, which he has indeed said. I think a holiday season release could work for them too, though. Sell a couple of million units with several titles readily available in december, and then follow up with at least 10 to 15 titles (first, second and third party) in the first couple of months of 2017.
Well, at least developers seemed to come away genuinely positive and even impressed from the behind closed doors sessions at the E3, so here's hoping...

@TheRealThanos The fact that Nintendo was supposedly pitching the NX to 3rd parties at E3 makes me question a 2016 release in the 1st place. Why? Because it means either a) the NX is easy to develop for and easy to port to, allowing for such a quick turn around for a launch next year, or b) Nintendo hasn't learned their lesson and isn't giving developers enough time with the system - the exact same start of events for the Wii U's pre-launch.

I suppose there's also c) the NX is a micro-console, and the 3rd party devs that they pitched the NX to are actually indie devs.

@IceClimbers Thank you

@Quorthon

Gamecube was codenamed as Project Dolphin back in 1999. It was officially announced as the Gamecube in 2000 and was released in 2001.

Wii was codenamed as Project Revolution back in 2004. It was unofficially shown off in 2005 (Iwata pulled a prototype out of his coat pocket at E3 2005) and was detailed/released in 2006.

Wii U was codenamed as Project Café back in 2010. It was officially announced in 2011 as the Wii U and was detailed/released in 2012.

So based on the past 3 generations, if NX is a home console, it will be released in 2017.

And no, Nintendo won't go third party. It will take probably another 20+ years of consecutive Wii U-esque level flops - in both their home console and handheld businesses - before the phrase "go third party" even approaches Nintendo's executives.

'"Proper" account and reward system.' Yes, because Nintendo would use language that an upset fanboy would use to describe their displeasure with Nintendo's current online model and imply that the current system is improper. This scam was not at all convincing...

@IceClimbers I don't see why it would have to be a micro console: they've probably already been working on it for the last two years and whether they go with x86 or with something that runs Unity or even Unix, that is besides the point, other than the first probably being the most easy to develop for in terms of multi-plats.
The news about the developers attending the closed doors sessions didn't go into specifics about what type of developers were allowed to attend, so it also didn't say that it concerned indies:

"Game Informer is reporting that Nintendo were approaching third-party developers at this year’s E3 event in Los Angeles regarding their new hardware which is currently known as the NX. According to the US publication the reception that the team received was positive, which if true, means that the overall concept is one that appeals to developers and gamers.

The problem for Nintendo is the NX’s launch is at least a year away - likely more, as the company reportedly just started talking about it with third party partners at this year’s E3. (The reception, say insiders, was positive.)"

Come to think of it, indies probably wouldn't be the most wanted parties on Nintendo's list for something as important as a behind closed doors reveal of either the new console or information on the concept of the new console. Logical deduction makes that rather improbable, so it's a pretty safe bet that we're talking AAA developers here, or at least some of the parties that left the Wii U in the cold, because it was bad business for them. With this closed doors session, Nintendo may have inspired some of them to consider coming back for their next console, if we are to believe GameInformer's report on it.
@defrb Thank him for what?

One of the biggest flaws for me in the video was the bullet points near the end. Why do the sentences start In lowercase letters? Also the bullet that reads "proper account - and reward system" ; Who is to say what a PROPER account system is? That would imply that Nintendo is sorely disappointed in their current account system. The word PROPER is also region specific. It's not a word that we use often in the US, it would be weird for them to use a style of speaking that seems region specific as opposed to a more neutral word choice.

the creator just confirmed is fake: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hGPhzJ9XD0

I'd buy that tho

I like how the intro is in Japanese but the rest of the presentation is in English.

Hmmm?
@Damo : "the very un-Nintendo music also sets alarm bells ringing."
@ericwithcheese2 : "I like whoever made this up used one of my favorite 3DS Sizzle Reel themes from the Nintendo Direct in October 2012!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4QFbibEnX8 29:00

@Damo : YOU'RE a weirdeness article! I really just said that. Wow I need to stop.

8 GiB system memory?

Not saying this video is 100% real at all, BUT, in defense of the smartphone, tablet, gamepad thing, Iwata said he wanted the NX to bring together all those platforms for a dedicated home system.

@Kirk

Nintendo fans have shown that they really don't care what Nintendo does because it's always okay because Nintendo does it. Besides, the Wii U still has lower sales than the Dreamcast. From a corporate point of view, they aren't going to be upsetting all that many people by canning it early.

Again, I will remind you that the GBA was replaced in the same timeframe, and no one cared.

What you're saying is that it's "smarter" for Nintendo to waste time and money on a lingering console no one wants just to make a few core fanboys happy who aren't buying games anyway, because if they were, there'd be a lot more 3rd party support on the thing. The Wii U is a money vortex, and every time Nintendo has found "profitability" in the past year has been through exchange rates and crafty number crunching--never because of improved sales.

Is this really smart business? Hell f**king no. Who's going to be hurt by the NX coming out soon? The Nintendo fanboys who forgive the company of literally any transgression? Or the legions of gamers who never even bought into the thing in the first place?

Keeping the Wii U out longer without the NX replacing it is a losing proposition no matter how you slice it. Sure, there will be some upset fans, but for a corporation like Nintendo, that's a risk they will be willing to take if they can sell way more of the new hardware to someone else. And besides, those fanboys will come around again anyway. Just show them another Zelda or a Mario and they won't care anymore that the new hardware is out. How many suckers bought yet another 3DS just because of Majora's Mask?

Yeah, I think they're perfectly safe releasing NX early.

Now, I agree that Nintendo should have worked to repair the Wii U, the way Sony did with the PS3. In large part because this repair of the PS3's woes helped make the PS4 stronger. But Nintendo didn't, and now not only is it way too late, it's extremely clear they have moved on behind the scenes, as E3 painfully illustrated.

@IceClimbers

Every console launches with ports, and it's been this way since the Dreamcast at the very least. It's an easy way to get games to the new platform, make a bit of money to fund the next projects, and to familiarize with the platform. If NX is on solid footing to allow for some easy ports of PS4/XBO games, then that's something positive.

Gamers need to stop being such bloody crybabies about first-year ports on consoles. The first year is never the best, and always features ports and remakes. If you don't want 'em, don't buy 'em, but they serve an important purpose to keep the industry moving forward.

The smart thing to do would be to understand this very simple concept--and that goes for all of us.

@westman98

Nintendo is already going third party, genius. Or do you think they're making their own phones and tablets that will only play their games?

No, their games will be on Android and iOS. They are already making steps into 3rd party territory.

And frankly, if they went on failing as long as you magically think they could, they wouldn't go third party. They'd go bankrupt and be carved up like a Thanksgiving turkey to anyone willing to buy up the franchises from the corpse of the company. The same as when THQ went under.

Keep in mind, the longer a company fails, the harder it is to crawl out of that hole, and the more money and debt they have to incur to get out. Sony is still crawling out of a 10-year downward spiral, and they'll be crawling out of it for another year or two. Nintendo can just fail for 20 years, huh? You have no idea what you're talking about.

OK, yes, this is a clearly a fake. Why people spend time trying to fool so many people is beyond me, but let me just say I would love a pro controller style that includes the reader for amiibo functionality in it. That's actually a pretty cool idea.

@Quorthon

Ok, so Nintendo is making mobile games.. Yippee!!! Guess that means they'll be dumping their hardware business completely and going 100% on developing mobile games...

And what type of games will they make for mobile?? Mario Kart 9?? Smash Bros. 5?? Pokémon generation 7?? Mario Galaxy 3?? Animal Crossing 5?? If those are the games that Nintendo will develop for mobile, then I would probably agree with your Nintendo hardware-less future. Do I think those are the type of Nintendo games we will see on mobile?? Highly doubt it. Probably more along the lines of Rusty's Real Deal Baseball and Steel Diver Sub Wars, two 3DS games that are free to play and ready to be "mobilized." Who knows??

And no, I doubt Nintendo would survive that long with 20 years of hardware flops after flops. I am simply suggesting that their management won't ever consider "going third party" unless that happens.

Also, comparing Nintendo to THQ from post 2010 is being completely disingenuous. THQ was broke after 2011, with some $60 million in the bank (which shrank to some $12 million by late 2012). Their games were barely selling a few hundred thousand copies, despite the massive install bases of the platforms available (Wii + 360 + PS3 + DS + PSP). They had to go bankrupt; there was no other choice that their executives could think of. Nintendo has definitely struggled hard this generation, but saying that they will "THQ" themselves if they don't go third party is asinine.

@SepticLemon it's very possible to represent 1000 in binary (0000001111101000), and it's a kilobyte that is 1024 bytes not a megabyte. They use 1024 because it is cleaner (0000010000000000) as it is a power of two.

@Quorthon "Nintendo is already going third party"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qileP4bAzek

@123akis of course it is lol

But why AMD? Nvidia rules! Nuff said