As you're likely aware, The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth was just recently confirmed for release on Wii U and the New Nintendo 3DS. The Zelda-inspired dungeon crawler caused quite a controversy back in the early days of the eShop when Nintendo rejected the game due to its questionable religious content. Since then, times have changed, and now an enhanced remake of the game is finally making it over to Nintendo platforms.
In a recent interview with Polygon, Tyrone Rodriguez and Edmund McMillan - the game's creators - talked about the process that went into getting the game approved and why the old 3DS was excluded. Interestingly enough, the game was originally planned as a 3DS game until Nintendo shut it down. Rodriguez went on to say that he believes the reason for Nintendo pulling a one-eighty is due to its reliance on the ESRB and other ratings systems to determine the appropriateness of content, as opposed to its own judgement. Indeed, Nintendo's publishing of titles such as Bayonetta 2 and Devil's Third certainly does point to a changing philosophy within the company. It still wasn't an easy battle, though, and three particular people at Nintendo were pivotal in getting the game on the eShop. These three people were Steve Singer, Mark Griffin, and Dan Adelman; the Vice President of licensing, Senior Manager in licensing game development and head of Indie development, respectively.
Once the game was approved for the 3DS after many years of deliberation, the developers faced the problem of getting the game to fit on the 3DS' humble hardware. Rodriguez likened the original vision of the game to an 8 ounce cup of water and the final version released on other platforms as a 16 ounce cup of water, it simply wouldn't fit. A prototype was made for the original 3DS, but it was significantly inferior and was quickly scrapped. The team then decided to switch it over to the New Nintendo 3DS and, in the process, they managed to be the first Americans to receive the New 3DS development kit.
Unfortunately, an old 3DS version is out of the question with Rodriguez going so far as to say:
Officially, I'm going to tell the internet no.
Rather disappointing, but understandable given the time and effort it would take to deliver what would ultimately be an inferior product. At the close of the interview, Rodriguez stated that while the DLC won't be available at launch, they would be looking into releasing it in the future.
The interview makes for quite an interesting read, you can read the whole thing here .
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[source polygon.com]
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It's twin stick right? Hmmmm, not what the C-stick is best for.
Eh... "religious"... All Kid Icarus games had a religious element. As well as a few other titles, almost anything with monster, more likely Vampires.
any ETA?
Religion is off limits. But offensive gameplay themes aren't?Who understands you Nintendo. You can't straddle the fence and protect the kids at the same time. I mean whatever I'm still buying it
Even though the game itself disgusts me, its approval is a victory for free speech. Therefore, I'm glad this is happening.
I have been waiting for the chance to be able to buy this game on a Nintendo system and it seems I will finally be able to do so. After Super Meat Boy I sort of became a fan of Team Meat and though I was baptized I am not concerned at all about the religious content seeing as a good game is still a good game, and one I have been waiting a long time to play at that!
I'm glad it's finally being released on a Nintendo console, for sure.
@flag Summer of this year I believe.
@Dezzy It's twin sick in a pretty loose sense. The movement is full analog, the firing works basically like a d-pad (up, down, left, right). As a constant player since launch on my vita, I can tell you it will work great on the c-stick unless they botch the whole version...these guys won't.
@Dezzy You can use the ABXY buttons for shooting instead of the second stick. I prefer that to using the second stick on PC, so will do the same on (New) 3DS.
I doubt the C-nipple would be good enough for decent play in this game.
Hopefully the game won't suffer with the frame loss that the Vita version has occasionally.
I upgraded to New 3DS so I'm ok with it releasing exclusively on the most recent hardware but it seems strange that a 2D game with simple graphics can't run on standard 3DS while some visually impressive 3D games can (like Smash Bros).
Only for the new 3DS, damn you Nintendo..
@BaffleBlend Victory for free speech? Except this has nothing to do with "free speech"
@kereke12 Apparently you need to read the article again. That was not Nintendo's decision
This game has DLC?
@Dezzy I've played for over 100 hours on pc using only keyboard ... analogue controls aren't a requirement at all. The original game didn't even have analogue as an option.
"3DS' humble hardware"? This isn't even a joke. Castlevania: Mirror Of Fate? Ironfall: Invasion? Hello...
Also
"Political correctness"?
What are you parents doing in modern times?
And have claims to your children that they are using you?
@TingLz: I meant "anti-censorship". I was sleepy and chose the wrong word.
@BaffleBlend Much better! That's the right word here
It's a 2D game. The original 3DS could handle it easily if they knew how to optimize it.
There's no way the 3DS really couldn't handle this game. The system is WAY weaker than I ever thought it if could. Surprising.
Now bring Meat Boy to where he was supposed to belong already!
@Link-Hero that wouldn't surprise me. They're extremely overrated. The game is medicore compared to the vast excellent offerings of the Nintendo eShop.
@R-L-A-George there's a difference between how it is presented. In this game God tells the mother his son has been corrupted by evil and needs to be "cleansed" (sacrifice) this game uses themes games typically avoid
I was going to buy Rebirth on PC, but now I will wait for Wii U. The Binding of Isaac is a loving homage to the early The Legend of Zelda top down dungeons so it is fitting this game finally ends up on a Nintendo console. Yes!
I can't believe this will only work on the New 3DS. It has begun.
I personally have absolutely zero interest in this game, but I'm glad to see that Nintendo is giving everyone a chance now on their platforms.
@R-L-A-George I think Nintendo considers that more mythology than religion. I mean, I'm pretty sure no one's religion involves Zeus, Athena, Medusa, Hades, Poseidon, etc. anymore.
wasn't a fan of this game on the PS systems, don't really see what all the fuss is about. it's a top down dungeon crawler with pixelated poop. It's not particularly offensive or gross, and really doesn't do anything special.
No interest here. Making a mediocre game is one thing, but to purposely add in subject matter to gain attention and sales based on controversy doesn't win me over. To each their own, I guess, just not my cup of tea.
It's always weird to me when a game with 2D art has space issues. But I guess I don't know crap about coding.
PS Vita did it better, no complaints, and got it for free! Plays like a dream and looks sharp as a razor. About time the 3ds is getting a little chest hair!
Only for the New 3DS?Well i guess i'm going with the Wiiu version then.
@R-L-A-George I think the problem was less to do with religion being referenced in the game and more to do with it openly mocking a rather prominent sect of religion.
I'm always glad to see Nintendo get more games but I don't think this fits their main audience.
I also know absolutely nothing about coding but find it surprising that this game wouldn't fit on 3DS compared to some of the seemingly massive and deep retail games.
On the other hand I love exclusives for my new hardware!
I'm quite surprised they stuck with it so long as most would've just blown Nintendo off and said forget it. I wonder why they were so admit about getting this game on Nintendo systems?
@Link-Hero seems the most likely answer to me as well.
I'm so happy this is coming to Nintendo consoles at last! I've spent over 250 hours on the PC version and the developers are such huge Nintendo nerds it's good to see it on the New 3DS and Wii U. If you actually look past the poop and religious themes then it's actually an incredibly detailed game with tons of depth and replay factor. I still haven't done everything and I still play it because it's so fun. This is a huge step forward for Nintendo! Now let's just hope that Afterbirth will be available later!
Well, I know I'm not getting this. not enough reason to get a New 3DS.
Well I am not upgrading my 3ds to new3ds but I got a wii u so, I still win.
I don't see logic here, even if that's what they are trying to explain. where's the logic??
@Maximknight you might want to get ur 3ds waxed if its getting hair on its chest.
@Squiggle55 hate to break it to ya, but its not an exclusive. not only is it available everywhere else, Nintendo was the last to get it. Far from being exclusive, it's more like left overs, or sloppy seconds...
I call BS that this freaky game Blinding Isaac can't be ported to 3DS, if the Nintendo 3DS can play Resident Evil Revelations, Super Mario 3D Land, and Metal Gear Solid 3D, then it should run no problem.
@Daveh30 Oh I know that. I already own the game from ps+. I mean I like having my New 3DS do things the old 3DS can't do, so that I don't feel like I bought it for nothing. =p
disappointing to hear. what happened to the more open embracing nintendo. There is this thing called steam where all games are welcomed. nintendo is just losing money stopping games from releasing on its system. shame it took so long for this game to be approved
no original 3DS version? NO DEAL
@Dezzy
The shooting is really only four directions, and likely assigned to the ABXY buttons.
I have this on PS4 so I am not worried about it not coming to the 3DS.
It's a fantastic game, but would be even better in portable form. I'd buy it, as long as it's as cheap as it is on other platforms.
I've put several hours into both versions (original and rebirth) on steam and always wanted a 3DS version. I'm going to have to buy this.
I twerked around with the "C-stick" in Majora's Mask, and it's surprizingly agile as an input method. It looks so wrong, but feels so right when you actually get up close and personal with it. Double entendres abound!
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In my opinion this game is lame it's not that fun very repetitive and the art style sucks just my opinion and to say it won't work on the original 3DS is an utter LIE ! , the ONLY and I STRESS ONLY reason this game got any attention is because of it's theme there are countless games of this type that are alot better .. The thing about this game that offends me is as a consumer I don't like to be lied too this game could easily run on the original 3DS hardware .
@Haiassai Well, criticises, then. Either way, the Binding of Isaac's criticism of Christianity and Kid Icarus' simply using Greek & Roman mythology as source material are two completely different situations.
@lucario1818
I think you replied to the wrong person.
Not buying a N3DS for a flash game
@Quorthon yeah sorry bout that.
This game is disturbing to me. Not for it's themes. Just the art style. just gross looking. Kinda like the Titans in AoT series.
Another game people made a huge fuss over for a 2D game and a lazy dev pretending they're appeasing Nintendo fans.
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