The New Nintendo 3DS now has a release date for both North America and Europe, with 13th February no doubt circled on a number of calendars. It continues Nintendo's trend of sprucing up and revitalising a portable generation with a refreshed system, and there's certainly evidence and buzz to suggest that a good number of 3DS gamers are contemplating the upgrade.
As a piece of hardware it certainly delivers enough to justify the change - the stable 3D delivers an effect many would have loved since day one, the C-Stick makes the Circle Pad Pro a thing of the past, and we can expect amiibo and built-in NFC to be a focus. From Nintendo's perspective it's clever; it's a faster, more feature-rich and improved machine, but in terms of the manufacturing costs per unit we can't envisage any of the improved tech greatly reducing profit margins. It's no generational leap - which is fair enough, it's not branded as such - so should help Nintendo's financial reports look a little healthier come April.
Its timing, in terms of within this generation, also makes sense. We're now approaching the fourth year of the 3DS, and considering the fact that it wasn't technically cutting edge at release - though glasses-free 3D was relatively fresh - it's certainly been creaking a little. That's not to say Nintendo and notable third-parties aren't making games that both play well and are easy on the eyes, but a lot of the extras added since March 2011 have seen the system struggling to keep pace.
It now deals with Miiverse, HOME Themes and a few examples of titles utilising free-to-play or heavier online components; none of these are necessarily a big deal in themselves, but they add up. Games such as Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate are straining the hardware - Smash players can't go onto Miiverse while running the game, while both titles effectively reboot the console when they're closed. The quicker CPU on the new model not only contributes to making stable 3D a reality, but speeds up the general interface, eShop downloads and more. It's slicker and more satisfying to use, and one of those devices that - when tried out - makes it hard to go back to the originals.
That's all good stuff, but there have been aspects about this that have been frustrating. Let's start with the staggered release. It's possible that finalised design came too late for Nintendo to manufacture enough units for a worldwide roll-out, so this complaint should be taken with that potential proviso in mind. That aside, its arrival in Japan last October - then shortly afterwards in Australia / New Zealand - was naturally bemoaned in the West, especially as it meant an obvious Holiday treat was never even offered in Europe and North America. As it was announced in a Japan-only Nintendo Direct the company also adopted the play-it-dumb approach, plugging some 3DS XL bundles and new options for the Holiday season when, for those that follow the big N or actually look at the internet, it was obvious that waiting a few months for a New models would make more sense.
Did this affect hardware sales? It's hard to tell, though the existing models clearly didn't fly off shelves in the US, at least, with the latest NPD press release focusing on software sales - which were excellent - and ignoring hardware numbers and percentages entirely.
Some may point out that a similar release schedule happened with the DSi, which is completely fair. It's an apples and oranges comparison, however - the DS Lite was the runaway success of that generation, contribution nearly two thirds of the entire DS family's sales. Sales in general were higher, as the 3DS can rightfully be regarded as a success but, with the market being so different, can't hope to match the sales of the DS era. Also, Nintendo Direct broadcasts didn't exist in that time, while social networks and awareness of Nintendo ins-and-outs is arguably greater in the fanbase than in 2008 / 2009. This is the information age, so announcing a product in Japanese doesn't stop fans knowing about it.
So, the release split wasn't, in our view, ideal, but the biggest mis-step - and one we're still trying to figure out - is with the XL-only policy in North America. The standard New Nintendo 3DS is a rather different product to the XL, in that it offers an alternative design from its predecessor - the New XL feels very similar in the hand to the original XL - and has the extra allure of cover plates. As amiibo has shown, if you give Nintendo fans a chance to collect neat extras to enhance their systems they will - quite literally - empty store shelves. The 'kisekae' plates in Japan are dizzying in variety, with over a dozen on the way to Europe, and the option to change the look of your system at a low cost is rather attractive. It's simple - customise yourself with the smaller model, while there'll no doubt be a whole load of special edition XL options; we already have two special New XLs at launch. Within our UK office most of us are down-sizing to the smaller model, as it's a lovely design.
Statistically, the XL will likely outsell the smaller model in Europe as it has in Japan; that's fair enough. But the option matters, especially when there's easy money to be made on cover plate accessories. We're still baffled by Nintendo of America's decision, and can only hope - optimistically - that it's a stock issue, and that the smaller models will arrive Stateside in the coming months. Even that viewpoint is flawed, as surely Nintendo wouldn't delay such a product for one of its most valuable, vital markets.
If the decision was taken based on focus groups or sales data for the original smaller model then, again, we'd argued that's flawed thinking. The original 3DS carried a stigma of being a flop, as it was at launch - it was famously revived in Fall 2011 by a hefty price cut and some vital game releases in that year's Holiday season. The XL's arrival in 2012 truly took off, though, and it's been the dominant model; the small original is barely relevant at retail, with the XL running the show. The original 3DS was associated with failure and, certainly in this writer's opinion, was a bad design. Angular, uncomfortable to hold, the XL was a beacon of comfort and superior build quality; it was a no-brainer. The standard New Nintendo 3DS is an entirely different proposition, and deserves its chance to sit alongside the XL despite the larger model inevitably selling more units.
Unfortunately, this decision by Nintendo of America detracted somewhat from this week's release date announcement. It was left-field, and it's not often that such a big market will say "no thanks" to a product as attractive and full of sales potential as the smaller New 3DS. It'll baffle us until the end.
And so it's been a mixed route to the West for the New Nintendo 3DS. We're excited about it, and its arrival with The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask 3D and Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate will generate a lot of buzz. Ultimately, all said and done, we're pretty hopeful that the allure of the New systems will lead to significant sales, providing the 3DS family with the boost it needs to extend its generation for another couple of years. Once they land we'll likely care less about these mishaps, in any case.
With the absence of the standard New Nintendo 3DS in North America, I asked our long-term reviewer and dedicated portable gamer in the US - Ron DelVillano - to contribute to this article. Below he gives his own reaction and sense of disappointment, but also his perspective of the reactions he saw on social media.
I've been a Nintendo fan my whole life. More than that, I grew up almost exclusively playing video games on portable Nintendo consoles. I don't know if it was the regular family road trips or the fact that I wasn't restricted to only playing games in one room of the house, but I've always been drawn to handhelds. As I grew older and was spending less time at home, portability became much more important to me. I would bring my consoles to work to squeeze in a few minutes of Minish Cap on my Game Boy Micro and I nearly failed out of more than one college course because I was preoccupied with planting the perfect crop layout in Harvest Moon DS. I've always been an early adopter of portable hardware and it should come as no surprise that I have been eagerly anticipating the release of the New 3DS in my territory.
Then the Nintendo Direct aired.
Nintendo of America made the announcement that it has decided to release the New Nintendo 3DS XL in North America, but there was absolutely no mention of the standard model. No mention of the model that provided extra portability and customizable faceplates. No mention of the model that is, for all intents and purpose, a handheld gamer's dream. NoA didn't confirm that I would never see the standard model, but the lack of a mention was alarming. In a word, I was heartbroken.
I'm not generally one to complain too publicly or too loudly, but Nintendo – a company that I have supported for as long as I can remember – really let me down. I couldn't imagine why the company would decide to release a console worldwide, then block North Americans access from enjoying the entire lineup. There was something that I wanted, but instead I was offered something else entirely. I spent a good amount of time on Wednesday stewing in frustration until it occurred to me: Nintendo doesn't owe me anything and I don't deserve anything from the company just for being a customer.
I have, without any semblance of a doubt, been a loyal fan of Nintendo. I own all of the consoles, I purchase most of the major first-party releases, and I have achieved Platinum status on Club Nintendo every year that the program has been available. I even write for a Nintendo-centric website, but none of that means that I deserve what I don't already have.
Don't get me wrong; I think it's fair to be frustrated and bothered by corporate decisions that ultimately affect what you can and cannot purchase, but don't think it's fair to act belittled or betrayed. This was obviously a strategic decision that Nintendo had to come to and I'm sure it wasn't an easy one to make. That being said, if you are living in North America and you do not want the New 3DS XL, then I encourage you not to purchase one. Show the company what you do and do not want through your support of their products, not by lashing out with petty attacks on social media. If I change my mind at some point and decide that I want a New 3DS XL then I'm going to buy one, but until that day, I'm one with the masses.
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In the west, and especially in the US, 3DS sales didn't really take off until the XL model was released. Nintendo can see the differences in the sales for themselves and obviously figured it made sense to just focus on the larger model. We don't get to see exact figures in Europe, but I'm pretty sure that the sales of the new XL will dwarf the sales of the regular sized New 3DS.
I'm sure the thing will sell bundles, but (and there's no way we'll ever know this for sure) I think almost everyone buying it will already be an owner of a previous 3DS. If the amazing library didn't sway someone, I just can't see the improvements doing it.
@Peach64 I pretty much agree with everything you said.
Honestly I would love to see the numbers of sale of 3DS VS 3DS XL in NA as well as the numbers for how many 3DS were traded in for 3DS XL. Once we see those I am sure then it would make sense as to why Nintendo is only bringing out the New 3DS in XL form.
People need to remember that Nintendo's first and most important goal as is the same with every business is to make money. If a product is not going to make them money or cause them to lose money why on earth would they have it?
still want the smaller NEW 3DS but am settling for the bigger one. if they do eventually release the smaller model here, then I will trade the NEW 3DS XL in for it.
I am still very conflicted. At first I said I wouldn't buy one. The improvements, especially after seeing it boot Sm4sh comparatively to the original models, falling in love with my Amiibos and adorning the possibility of head tracking 3D, I was on board to buy the New 3DS to add to my lineup of a DSLite and 3DSXL, both red and black.
Then NoA says N3DSXL only, and they say 'new red' and 'new black' but all I see is 'wine' and 'gray'. The limited edition ones look great but good luck getting one for a good price, especially since I am intent on holding onto my 3DSXL I already own.
I want one, but right now, I'd rather finally buckle down and pick up a PS4 or a Vita. I already have a 3DS, it works fine, and a few extra seconds of faster booting on Sm4sh should not be enough to warrant another $200. Maybe I'll get one when better colors become available.
I've already stated this elsewhere but I'm not personally bothered by only the XL as I was getting that one anyway. The 3DS XL sold overwhelmingly more than the regular model so from a business point it makes sense.
At the same time this is Nintendo. I understand that Nintendo is a company but we as customers have come to expect more love from them than this. I don't think Nintendo has ever done a stunt like this for "business reasons" before.
@ShikabaneHime13 That really gives me hope!
I sent them an email the other day, and they replied with a typical copy-paste response and it kind of disappointed me a bit. But if what you said is true, then that cheers me up a bit
By the time this all blows over, I bet the standard N3DS will have gotten more sales than it would have if they just released it here in the first place
"I have been eagerly anticipating the release of the New 3DS in my territory.
Then the Nintendo Direct aired.
Nintendo of America made the announcement that it has decided to release the New Nintendo 3DS XL in North America, but there was absolutely no mention of the standard model. No mention of the model that provided extra portability and customizable faceplates. No mention of the model that is, for all intents and purpose, a handheld gamer's dream. NoA didn't confirm that I would never see the standard model, but the lack of a mention was alarming. In a word, I was heartbroken.
I'm not generally one to complain too publicly or too loudly, but Nintendo – a company that I have supported for as long as I can remember – really let me down. I couldn't imagine why the company would decide to release a console worldwide, then block North Americans access from enjoying the entire lineup."
@ThomasBW84 took those words straight from my mouth. I completely and whole heartily agree with you. The hype (the dare I say it), the high, that I was riding the night before planning what faceplates I was going to order, how I was going to order in middle of class! That all came crashing down with a strong feeling of disappointment. I was excited and then...whoosh. All gone Nintendo is a company I've stood behind, and this is a big-old stab in the back. Sure to them I am a nameless consumer, but one that owns every single Gameboy, every version (so far in the States) of the 3DS...that should count for something??? Right?? then you realize, I doesn't. Still as Thomas put it; "if you live in the states and want the smaller one, don't buy it" and that is what I plan to do. Nintendo next time you a new handheld around...I might wait on it, going have to be a real compelling sell to get back on board the day-one ship
@Wilford111
Even though people are getting responses by email, I personally find calling far more effective. It allows them to hear "me" instead of just some nameless, voiceless stranger behind a wall of text in an email. And I can convey more by pointing reasons "why" the XL is not a good fit for "me". Everyone will have different reasons, hence why we are encouraging others to take to the campaign. Even if you plan to get the nXL, leave feedback in support of your fellow consumer's right to choose for themselves.
"We're still baffled by Nintendo of America's decision, and can only hope - optimistically - that it's a stock issue, and that the smaller models will arrive Stateside in the coming months. Even that viewpoint is flawed, as surely Nintendo wouldn't delay such a product for one of its most valuable, vital markets."
Maybe you're baffled by a lack of 3DS, but I'm baffled about how such a long article, write by 2 different people, can fail to mention even once the probable reason for a lack of "new" 3DS in the US, the 2DS. Maybe it's in there somewhere but I can't find it mentioned.
The 2DS, like Trix, is for kids, the "new" 3DS XL, is for adults. Mystery solved.
I remain extremely aggravated that the standard model isn't coming here. This wouldn't be an issue if it weren't for Nintendo's outdated policy on region locking (another baffling decision). The only way to get the "New" features (C-stick, ZL, ZR, exclusive games) is by dropping $200 on an oversized model that blows out the graphics and doesn't even come with a charger.
I guess I'll be skipping on a generation of Nintendo handhelds for the first time in my life.
I doubt it's a problem with lack of stock: if it's true the XL is outselling the standard there should be a big enough supply of standard models for everyone. Feels more like tyranny of the majority in just deciding that since more people prefer the XL then that's the right choice for everyone.
OK, reread it all again. Seriously, how does the 2DS not get mentioned even once? The fact that the 2DS has never been released in Japan kind of sets a precedent for the regular size new 3DS not being released in the US, does it not? Seems at least somewhat relevant, and perhaps even explanatory, to me.
Plus it's still region locked!
Well it's on them really if my money means nothing to them; I'll be content with my 2DS for the foreseeable future, as I have no interest in the 'new XL'. Will definitely make a call though to give my own direct input soon-ish.
@rjejr Then it seems a bit strange that, even if they would only focus on that and the 2DS, the latter hasn't gotten word on any kinda upgrade...maybe they could actually -somewhat- right this wrong(for now). I'm not even a kid and, 3D aside, I find the 2DS form to be highly superior to the clamshell design(though it's pretty silly to say the 2DS is the kiddy model anyways, imo). Even 'kids' would want to have access to any further exclusive games and such coming out.
@KillScottKill Agree with that post. The XL is pretty much a pixel-y mess imo. The new standard seems to apparently hit a sweet spot in size when it comes to that.
@rjejr
sometimes the 2ds was for adults who needed a system but, knowing the n3ds was coming, opted for the cheaper one til release.
Still waiting on my Ambassador Edition...
I honestly think it's a shortage issue and Nintendo NA doesn't want to delay the launch. To me it doesn't really matter because I'm set in getting the Mon hun XL
I have no doubt the smaller model will come to the U.S. Nintendo isn't gonna leave money on the table especially with faceplates that could be sold although that begs the question...since the XL is the predominant sales leader, why not make faceplates for the console that sell the most?
@Lalivero - 2DS is for kids - marketed that way from day 1 by it's lack of 3D screen and 3D being bad for kids eyes under the age of 3. At least that's how it marketed, when it is, in the US, I don't know how the EU/UK handles it or if it is even out there, though I think it is. And since it is "for kids", well you just don't advertise a new $129 toy for kids 6 weeks after Christmas unless you want parents burning down Nitneod HQ in Seattle.
Also, since the new 3DS screen is a big part of the "new" 3DS, and 2DS doens't have 3D, well not much to market there. 2DS will have a new NFC model over the summer probably. Or the regular size "new" 3DS will release over the summer w/ a huge stack of faceplates. Hard to make that call. Old 3DS will stop being made and run out of stock eventually either way. I don't know if the US will get the new one or a "new" 2DS w/ NFC for the amiibo. But I do think the 2DS being out in the US is a factor for why the "new" 3DS isn't coming out now.
Oh, and theres a reason why those faceplates won't be that huge in the US. Almost everybody has some type of 3DS cover, and not to many of those covers are clear.
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=3ds+covers&tbm=shop
I think I'll opt for the smaller one.
Reasons:
1. Even with the original 3DS XL, I always had the feeling the screens were a bit TOO big for a handheld console, as much as the console itself.
2. Lower price and infinitely superior design (even if it wasn't for the face plates).
No matter what, both models deserve praise for finally convincing me in terms of hardware (whereas the 3DS software was convincing enough a long time ago).
Nintendo, please! Just release the regular New 3DS over here. It's not fair to just exclude us. I really want one. And so do a lot of other people. I doubt they're gonna change their minds, but whatever. sigh Well, they'd better at least have more of the Majora's Mask XL available by the time it releases... >_>
@rjejr
I do see what you are saying, I just think you are putting too much emphasis on the 2ds. I have seen adults playing them, but no kids.
Perhaps the marketing has missed the point.
As to the face plates: the market for them is not kids here in the states. It's teens and adult gamers who are gonna lust after them. The nerd type covers are good for kids, but I honestly don't see many older gamers using them.
The internet rarely agrees, yet it's also rarely a sentiment that matters in reality.
@Inkling Lol I feel sorry for you. At the rate it's going now, you'd have probably been better off just waiting for it to release.
@k8sMum - And sometimes adults eat Trix, but I've never seen a Trix tv commerical showing a bunch of hot chicks in bikinis eating them. All the commercials are marketed at kids, adults get horrible Kashi and Special K commercials, not Trix. For the record, I pretty much only eat Frosted Flakes myself, eaten them all my life.
"I just think you are putting too much emphasis on the 2ds."
Well I probably over compensated for the complete lack of it appearing in the article, so maybe I put to much emphasis on it, I'll admit to that. But to look at it from the opposite perspective, I'd bet if there was NO 2DS in the US, then we would be getting the new 3DS regular. So it's not the only reason, but I do think it is a contributing factor. Too large of a factor not to be mentioned in such a long piece that manage to cover the history of the DS, DSlite and DSi.
@BLPs - For the record, I'm not saying I agree with Nintnedo, only that I think the 2DS is part of their reason for no "new" 3DS in Feb 2015 in the US.
@rjejr There are also people out there who can't see 3D anyways, not just kids? In that sense, it can be considered gimmick-y. It's just a cheaper alternative model anyway you look at it, for anybody really. And, despite the likeliness of stock not being ready before, you can consider the launch of the 'new 3DS (XL)' being so soon after the holidays as a reason to burn down N HQ in that case.
That whole 'we have a 2DS' is also a poor excuse if they really want to use it, considering EU got the standard model. That's pretty frickin' laughable actually.
@rjejr
I like kix with sliced banana, myself. Hot chicks in bikinis eating anything wouldn't make me buy it, tbh.
Do you see many adverts of the 2ds? I haven't seen adverts for any ninty hardware in a long time. I did catch a Smash Bros ad once. They just don't seem to be on tv much anymore.
@BLPs
Because not everyone is the same and wants the same things?
@Lalivero - "That's pretty frickin' laughable actually."
That's pretty much my standard reaction to every decision Reggie has made the past 3 years.
@Peach64 I don't like the argument that the XL sales better. All that means is that they should produce the product in smaller numbers. If they were only looking at a market that could sustain 1 million units, that is still nearly $200 million in sales that they are leaving on the table.
Release the standard "new" 3ds in the U.S. and I will buy 2 of them.
@k8sMum I guess I'll add onto the kinda randomly amusing cereal convo then. I love Corn Pops myself. And 'hot chicks in bikinis'? Nahh, they can stay on the beach.
@rjejr We can definitely agree on that, haha.
@TruenoGT
Are you really saying that the nintendo handheld market isn't doing way better than the Wii U market?
@lalivero
I've thought for a long time that Reggie has the most slappable face on the planet.
This is what we get for not getting the Ambassador's Edition. Not only do we have to wait, but we don't the standard size at all. This was the first time I ever preferred the standard version over the XL. It's nice to see that Nintendo always has my back...
@k8sMum - No, I don't recall ever seeing anything Nintendo advertised on tv, but I have seen a few of these 2DS internet commercials, and they always show kids playing on the 2DS, and kids on the 2DS playing with adults on the 3DS or 3DS XL (hard to tell in a few seconds between regular and XL though I'd bet on XL).
http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Nintendo-Explains-2DS-Features-Parent-Friendly-Trailer-60169.html
@rjejr
Ah. I've not caught any of the 'net ads, or ignored them if I did.
Definitely wish the standard model was available since I am not sure if I want an XL.
they seem to think that the current market saturation in North America is problematic
This is a good thing still. Those people that are complaining are clearly a small majority,but i do think it is a stock issue and those other versions will arrive soon. Dah it is obvious. This is a launch. Come on now. Really, please and spare m the details.
A Nintendo customer service rep I spoke with today was super awesome. She stated she herself had been looking forward to the smaller New 3DS and had even planned which faceplates she would've liked to get. She also mentioned that the center is still receiving a ton of calls with complaints over the exclusion of the n3DS and actively encouraged me to get more feedback sent in. So it doesn't hurt to let them know!
Well, the original 3DS launch was "rocky" as well, so was WiiU and most recently amiibo of course. It wouldn't be a this-gen Nintendo launch if they didn't shoot themselves in the foot along the way. Just trying to imagine how much more pleasant a consumer experience these last years with Nintendo products would have been, if not for that annoying region-locking ... at times I regret that I went along with it. It would probably have been best to just boycott it completely right from the start with the DSi I'm afraid.
A very solid and rational response from the author. And that is what I would encourage people to do. Keep your cool, no need to be crazy, but sign a petition or something to let your voice be heard. Heck I'll even sign it, just for the people that wanted one.
The choice between the two models is difficult. I've had both a normal 3ds and a 3dsxl. I was fine with the original, but the xl model ultimately won me over. A larger screen just feels better when playing Nintendo games. When comparing the two, the original's screen is so puny by comparison. For me, the original xl wins over the original 3ds.
The choice between the two new models is less objective, imho. I love the larger screen of the new xl, but I also like the removable plates of the new 3ds. I don't know why Nintendo kept the removable plates to the new 3ds but not the xl. Having removable plates for both just seems ideal to me. Considering that one must unscrew and remove the back of the new xl to change the sd card, a concern over possible damage to the console through fiddling with the back and front seems unfounded. I don't know. It seems like a confounding design decision to me.
Anyways, NA only gets the new xl, so the decision on what model I get has ultimately been made for me.
Thats well said Tom, and Ron. I feel the same. Even though I was so looking forward to the standard 3DS, I can live with having the XL until the next generation of portable system comes to fruition. Better that, than nothing at all. Perhaps they'll make up for it somehow...
That said, I am purely excited to have a Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate edition XL on the way!
Anyone think there is a chance of a new 2ds in the near future?
@Obito_Sigma
"Nice to see Nintendo always has my back"
Sounds like you're taking this personally. Nintendo doesn't have any of our backs- ultimately, they're a business trying to make money. And if they decide to bring a product or not being a product, it's going to be a result of how financially viable it is to do so or not do so. Sure, they have a passion for creating video games and do try to throw us a bone when possible, but always in the context of running a profitable business.
They're never going to do anything to "have our backs" if they believe it's going to jeopardize their bottom line. I do think that's important to remember, because as fans we care about Nintendo, and it's easy to slide into the false reality of believing the unconditional feeling is mutual.
I think the basic model will be gracing stores... sometime later, perhaps before E3. I want the XL anyway, so I'm good.
@Ralek85 Shooting themselves in the foot is well near the business philosophy of Nintendo, and has been for a very long time. (Not hating on Nintendo, btw. I love their products, but they have made many bad decisions in the past that can't be overlooked.)
@rjejr you definately have a point about the 2DS, though I wonder how well it has sold and if they would even deem it worthy to even update it to "New" status? Also, could they make the new additions with out making concessions in it's low entry price? I also wonder if they'll even bother to release the Standard New 3DS. We can say "supply constraints", but given that Nintendo is releasing two special edition N3DSes, it almost clear what Nintendo's priority is in the states. They seem content on selling the XLs with the flood of special editions that that's become commonplace with them.
@k8sMum I might as well throw my hat in this cereal convo too. I'm a Cap'n Crunch and Froot Loops guy! The 'hot chicks in bikinis' if they gotta stay on the beach, I'm joining then with cereal in hand!
Hate to agree but, yeah, the late Western-release, plus the XL-only bombshell hasn't earned a whole lot of goodwill from U.S. consumers.
Hopefully, Nintendo's marketing will, one day, catchup with its products.
@Sir_JBizzle
As my name implies, I am not the demographic for the hot chicks in bikinis. I am more likely to tell them I am chilly so they need to put sweaters on!
I can't seem to find any word on how well the head tracking 3D adjusting works in a poorly lit environment?
I'm afraid that it's going to act up and mess up the screen if it's on and you play with your lights turned down.
The people whining about the small 3DS not coming to America are only the vocal minority. The small 3DS and DSi were never popular in America
@Moshugan
It has an IR light. It's fine.
@ryanator008 does it hurt you or infringe on your life that some of us want what you don't? I don't get why those who don't care seem to care so much.
I've just never been a fan of the XL models, they're too big for my taste. Hoping that Nintendo of America releases the standard at some point but I'm not holding out for it by any means. It's just really disappointing.
@Inkling
same here so much for delivered within 7days, no dispatch notice either.
Is there any prevision when the new 3ds arrives at Brazil?! Since Nintendo left our country due to abusive tax and i can't buy it in pre-sale because all stores only send to U.S adresses, i wonder if we will ever see it here...
I gotta be honest and how much i want the new 3DS , im not gonna buy it, i dont really see the point in it, and its really not worth it
BRING THE BLACK new 3DS TO AUSTRALIA k thanks from 1st world problems.
@k8sMum - My apologies for the bikinis thing, I was only trying to empasize the difference in advertising towards adults and children, and regardless of the adult product skimply clad attractive females usually arent far away.
Speaking of chilly, I wish Taylor Swifts mum would have told her to put on a sweater New Years eve, I was freezing just watching her. Even cheerleaders cover up when its freezing outside.
I don't understand why people are so uptight about there not being a regular size New 3DS in the US. People need to stop crying and acting spoiled. There is nothing wrong with the XL, hell i would even argue the XL is better than the standard size 3DS. People always need something to cry about. I don't see anything wrong with the system (besides the lack of an AC adapter). I've preordered a New 3DS and can't wait to try it out
After some long periods of thought, I've decided to pass on the New Nintendo 3DS XL. I'm not willing to fork over $200 for something I'd seldom use. Honeslty, I've had my time with the 3DS. Right now I'm more interested in my Wii U, and I'm planning on getting the Xbox One soon. I'm not a Nintendo hater, I just want to play Halo with my friends.
@Sir_JBizzle - I assume either a new 2DS or new 3DS will hit the US at some point over the summer or fall so they can market its interoperability with amiibo next holiday. Adding NFC and C-stick into 2DS shouldnt add too much to the price with all the cuts they made to the 3DS originally.
I think Im batting .000 in my Nintendo predictions the past few years though, so dont be surprised if US never gets either.
PS - Can you and @JaxonH settle it in Smash for the Megaman avatar?
@iPWNoobs Just because you prefer the XL doesn't mean that people don't have the right to complain. How would you feel if it was the XL not coming to NA? The XL is fine and I own one but I wanted the regular New 3DS. It isn't fair that everyone else gets to have it.
@omalleycat215 - I think theres a chance of a new 2DS before next holiday, not sure if that meets your idea of near future though.
2DS with NFC in the fall with an amiibo Pokemon game bundled in - just the game, not the 700 amiibo - would likley be a huge seller. Seems like a new Pokemon game comes out every year - ASOR, XY, BW2. Maybe a combo VR NFC game like Snap - scan your Pokemon before you can photo them. Pikachu and Charizard are already ready.
Honestly, my hype for the release of the new 3DS XL hasn't dropped one bit. But that could probably be because of the release of Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate.
@Bazly Sorry you feel that way. But I can understand. It is really annoying when these things happen. To be honest, only real reason I still stick around with Nintendo is because of their games. But yeah, they've really got on my nerves with their decisions in the last past few years. sigh Like I almost actually sold my Wii U because they kept upsetting me but then I saw their 2015 line up and I kind of decided to keep it... Not sure how much longer I can keep dealing with it though.
@k8sMum People are in denial. It isn't coming to America, and would make no money if it did.
@rjejr
No apology needed! I was just running with the joke. It's all good.
@rjejr the faceplates seem like a cash cow according to everyone that wants the standard one I wouldn't be surprised to see Nintendo release the Standard New with a ton of faceplates around E3 time to capitalize on the media attention.
@JaxonH has the full upgrade armor, so he probably wins! Haha
Speaking of settle it in Smash, does the NintendoLife community ever get together for some Smashing? It'd be awesome to lock horns and practice with you guys!
@ryanator008 you describe those voicing an opinion of displeasure as 'whining'. This has been a theme the past few days. It's become tiresome that, tho we may be in the minority we should just shut up.
I will vote with my wallet. Doesn't mean I need to pretend I am happy with this business decision ninty made.
Thomas Whine-head
This is every single person who is complaining about just the XL releasing in North America
XL purchase now, Standard 3ds at Christmas with all the panels. Purchasing crystal 2ds's in between.
@rjejr The Pokemon Snap idea is genius! Definitely could see that happening. Like many, I have fond memories of Pokemon Snap for the n64. It should be revisited on the Wii U, 3ds, or both.
I think the fact that there's a smaller version on the market just reinforces in people's head that they're getting the best deal (by getting an XL).
@MasterBlaster Why did you post twice?And why the hell did you just took a stab at Thomas?You must be a big boy now.
I personally would have preferred the regular sized one vs the XL having said that there is enough new features I can overlook if. I'm just disappointed with the limited availability of the majora's mask special edition, and that it sold out in less then a day.
@iPWNoobs Some people like myself don't want to carry around giant DS around it's annoying.But i'm not hating on it though.
I hate to be cynical but to me it seems after Operation Rainfall worked (and proved NoA wrong) that Nintendo of America almost has a pure disdane for it's fanbase. Their attitude is almost "You people are lucky we are even releasing this here." And "We don't owe you an explanation."
Hell according to Reggie all those postcards, emails, tweets, phone calls, letters, have zero effect on what the fans want.
The downside to this is that we cannot have XSeed do Nintendo of America's job this time.
@rjejr @Sir_JBizzle
Might be time for me to change my avatar soon anyways. After all, MH4U is upon us.
@rjejr
I feel like Muhammed Ali with you sometimes, ducking and weaving through the tattered war zone of comment sections, discussing crumpets and tea while the rest are rioting in protest.
It could be a success in America IF THEY WOULD JUST RELEASE THE DAMN STANDARD MODEL.
@ecco6t9
Well actually, Operation Rainfall didn't actually work in the sense that the goal was to convince Nintendo to bring those games over. Of course we did get those games, but it was only thanks to Gamestop and XSEED. As much disdain as I have for Gamestop, I do believe they were the only reason why we even got Xenoblade (they probably helped fund production of the discs).
@Sir_JBizzle - If they make faceplates for the US they'll make millions of the ones nobody wants and the good ones will only be available for inflated prices on eBay.
The people who want them should thank Nintendo for not putting them thru heartbreak.
@omalleycat215 - I have no personal history with Snap, just what I read about on the internet, but OMG it didnt even occur to me they could put it out on both systems cross-buy like Mario vs Donkey Kong Star Tripper. They could make it free and more than recoup the cost in Pokemon amiibo sales.
We have over 60 Skylanders, hopefully no Pokemon amiibo game until my sons are too old too care
One of the main reasons I have yet to take the plunge (apart from the holiday period emptying my funds) is the fact that the black New Nintendo 3DS has yet to be released in Australia. It may eventually end up that I import a UK version, provided that I can have my Aussie NNID and eShop account on it, which would be ironic since people in Europe have been importing the white Aussie model due to lack of availability and I would effectively be doing the exact same thing in reverse!
@JaxonH oh, my. We are not worthy...
@JaxonH - Nice Jax, very poetic of you, almost Beat Generation like. Or maybe you've just watched too many McConnahey car commercials?
I think the dancing toad summed this whole thread up best back at #75 @Discogentleman
@iPWNoobs "There is nothing wrong with the XL"
$40 more
Blows out the graphics
Doesn't have customizable faceplates
A/B/X/Y Buttons aren't fully colored liked the Super Famicom was
Not as comfortable to hold.
There. There's all the things wrong with it.
@Bazly Ditto on all counts good sir . I own a business and yes like all business owners I want to make money . That being said my customers are my source of income , period . If anyone thinks it's a good idea for me (or any business /company) to lose their customers because I made a decision FOR them based on what I thought was best without asking , well then entrepreneurship isn't for you .
Think about it this way . You go to a restaurant and order a steak with steamed veggies and a coke but instead your waiter brings you water and fish . You should just accept it because they don't owe you anything right ? They're in business to make money . Giving you fish and water was cheaper therefore a better business decision . Would you be okay with that ?
@KillScottKill I've had an XL for about 10 months now and I like the big screen but I don't like the blown up pixels and I'm kind of getting sick of its big size. It sucks. I really wanted the new standard one cause it was smaller and for the faceplates.
@rjejr
Well right. That's kind of how I felt yesterday too. Understand some people genuinely wanted a normal one and are disappointed. That's fine. But some of these posts are straight out of control. After all, we're not even talking about missing out on a new system, we're just talking about a system being 3 quarters of an inch larger than some wanted. Is 3 quarters of an inch and $30 really worth all this? People talk about the XL being uncomfortable but I own both, and it's the other way around. It's why we all upgraded in the first place. And the pixel issue is almost nonexistent. Enlarging a handheld game to a TV screen? Ya, pixelated mess. Enlarging handheld game by 3 quarters of an inch? Non-issue.
Newsflash - Life is not fair. Feel said that nobody every taught you that. Just because somebody else gets something, doesn't mean your intitled to it also.
It is very simple, don't want a N3DS Xl, don't buy one.
Simple. Wait until the N3DS standard comes out. Or move to Japan.
I personally have owned over 16 Nintendo Ds systems due to my wanting each design and exclusives. The standard faceplate version was absolutely perfect for me, as I get bored of designs and change them up. I even preordered the Kyogre limited edition suede faceplate 3ds just to get the plates for the USA version. I sold the japanese 3ds and waited. And now what? I can't enjoy changing around my own system? I'm not buying another 3ds until the standard comes out, or I'll be taking my business to Nintendo Europe and importing my games from now on.
Guess what? It wouldn't be a problem that NA didn't get the standard model if it wasn't for LUVYDUVYWUVING REGION LOCKING.
I can't help but feel bitter about this release, and some of Nintendo's practices in general recently. I hear the "they're just running a business" defense every now and then, and I get that, but that doesn't stop it from being scummy.
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Do you see how many people are anticipating the smaller screen model? It's the EXACT opposite of smartphones nowadays. It's refreshing to see that there's still business for smaller screens. Of course Nintendo doesn't know that.
Still, if you're complaining about not having the standard model in the U.S, just be quiet about it and go rage somewhere else. I'm sure you can bear with whatever 3DS model you already own.
It wouldn't be such an issue if people hadn't bought plates in anticipation of the standard 3ds. I'm fine using my cobalt regular sized 3ds while I wait.
"until it occurred to me: Nintendo doesn't owe me anything and I don't deserve anything from the company just for being a customer."
Sigh....I'm still not completely over this whole debacle, but in the back of my head I already understand and accept this simple truth. Nintendo doesn't owe us anything. If they feel that their choice makes sense to them, they'll stick with it. I'm one who believes that they'll probably never make the standard New 3DS available in America, just like they'll never remove the region-lock on their current consoles (and perhaps even the future ones, unfortunately). I could easily just skip the New XL and stick with the old 3DS and show Nintendo that I don't support their actions, but unfortunately I've been getting tired of how slow my trusty but creaky old 3DS is. If I'm able to sell my underused 2DS and my 32 GB Vita memory card (upgraded to 64 GB) by the time the New XL launches, I'll probably trade in my old 3DS for it anyway just so I don't have to deal with incredibly slow load times.
It'll just be an annoyance switching between the XL and my Vita Slim and occasionally my Shield and adjusting to the massive difference in screen quality (especially considering all the aliasing found in many 3DS games).
Screw the new 3DS, at least its coming. Where is the Project zero 5 release date? No one can deny it would have fit in well amongst the first half of 2015 schedule. Plus the Wii U is in dire need of a few meaty single player games (which it seems we wont get until the 2nd half of 2015) Surely Im not the only one who feels that the Wii U line up is kinda throwaway until the release of Splatoon?
@Bazly
I share your sentiments completely. Yes, they're a business, and so they have the right to do whatever they want. I accept that, and I'm not gonna throw a temper tantrum. That said, I too am tired of staying invested in such a company, and am also ready to just move on. So hey, you're not alone.
And I'll preemptively state that there's no reason for anyone to call me a baby and a whiner, etc. As I said, I fully understand Nintendo's rights as a business, and I'm not making trouble for anyone. I'm simply tired of their decisions. If nothing else, I guess we're just not on the same wavelength, so I guess I'm not the kind of fan that they're catering to (or offering options to) anymore. I accept that.
Oh, and no, knowing how NoA usually operates, if they weren't gonna offer it at launch - when every other region did - I would be absolutely shocked if they offer the standard N3DS at any point. They've decided once and for all that NA wants XL, and that's that. (And it's true that the majority does, but that's also true in the other regions, which did get the standard option, so...)
Anyway, life goes on.
@KillScottKill You aren't skipping a generation if you skip the New 3DS. I imagine we'll see the next generation hardware in 2-3 years.
Please, I beg everyone, do NOT buy this. Do NOT encourage Nintendo to continue its terrible naming policies (Its HURTING them! Imagine trying to sell this as a salesperson!) and releasing halfway systems. Imagine all the people who do not know better seeing "3DS" on the box, buying a NEW 3DS game, and then wondering why it won't play in their 3DS. People severely lack common sense nowadays so it will just damage Nintendo's reputation. As someone who grew up with Nintendo systems, please do not support this stupidity. Naming their 8th gen system the "Wii U" and refusing to market it properly already screwed them over once, and now they're trying to release a 3DS with the name "New" tacked onto it? Imagine buying a used one. "Used new 3ds"
I remember eventually buying a DSi and got burned because they announced the 3DS a year later. Anyone who buys this WILL be disappointed they did as soon as their 9th gen handheld is announced.
My rambling is over, but please, do not encourage this.
@Chaos_Eevee
Well, my reason for doing so isn't the name, stupid though it may be. But due to the lack of the standard size choice here, there's zero chance that I'll be buying one. So different reason, but same result.
The only version of the new 3ds I wanted was the standard one and since that is not coming to America I was thinking I could just import a European one. NOPE! I remembered that Nintendo is the only company that still has region lock on their systems. ]:l It is like Nintendo is afraid of money. But yeah I'm not going to get a new 3ds XL, or at least not right now. Maybe in the future when more things become exclusive on it and I have more money to spend. It is funny how the exclusion of the same system but at a different size totally changed my opinion of getting a devise though lol.
@Bazly
Nintendo should be very worried that people are thinking like this.
The zealots who want to protect their beloved Nintendo by telling others to be quiet aren't helping Nintendo. If the company makes a decision that could lose them money and customers it actually helps if people let them know. After that if they don't listen, take your money elsewhere.
@midnafanboy
Stay gold....
I am not here to argue. I am not here to rant. I only have a basic message for leaving here:
Nintendo is screwing up. I don't condemn them for it. I DO have a long amount of irritation with their practices over the last several months. Amiibo shouldnt be limited to one run if they are flying off the shelves. WiiU-GC Adapters should have been reprinted within two months of their demand, and announced within 2 weeks that there was a reprint coming. Majora's Mask LE Game + statue shouldnt sell out within hours. MM New 3DS XL shouldnt sell out within A QUARTER OF AN HOUR.
And MOST CERTAIN, Nintendo shouldnt limit my choices. I only wanted a Standard N3DS. I was planning that all along. When I found out that the Standard was unavailable, I decided to settle for the MM Special Edition. I couldnt get that either. I will WAIT. And I WILL say it wherever I want. Social Media and in RL.
Nintendo's current actions have been crippling to their company and just sitting down and saying nothing will Not help Nintendo. Because they will not know the level of our anger.
People actually want the smaller screens new 3DS just because of face plates???
Weird?
@Nomad
It isnt just faceplates. The screens are larger but the dimensions are the same. That means that the larger screens are just "zoomed in". It doesnt show you more, just bigger. Faceplates make the system adaptable. The biggest issue is the lack of respect though. "Americans will not want this, let us just force them to buy the more expensive one". That is the issue.
Everything is bigger in the US - a UK large portion of fries or soft drink is equivalent to a small portion in the US!
@jos I don't expect mine to come at this point. I've had no calls, or contact of any kind (even though they promised me they'd call back in 24 hours). I should have waited for the release
@Chaos_Eevee I agree the wii brand should have been dead and buried as it was in public consciousness come 2011
People are upset that Nintendo made four things people like but weren't able to make many millions of each within 6 months to satisfy everybodies demand immediately.
Would i have been better if there were no Amiibos? Or maybe no GC USB adaptor? Or no New small 3DS? Or no New XL? Can't have your cake and eat it too - at least not get really upset and complain on the Internet because other people got theirs first. Seriously, sounds like a bunch of 3 year olds.
@HandheldGuru97 Maybe you should read the next few sentences in the article, you know, where it's explained that Nintendo doesn't owe you anything. The very words @ThomasBW84 'took out of your moth' are the ones he doesn't agree with.
@electrolite77
Nintendo should be. But they aren't. And TBH, I've been given no reason to think that they ever will.
I just really cant believe theres no normal N3DS... Sigh Nintendo and their "marketing"
Is there actually a notable number of people who preferred the original to the xl?
I don't agree that the western release was 'delayed', just sayin.
This is a real shame. I received an Ambassador edition "New" 3DS and felt initially that I would be facing a downgrade but the regular edition turned out to be really great. The "New" XL should be great too, but in terms of bangs for your bucks the regular seems a little cooler. The reasons given for NAs exclusion make sense but at the same time are bewildering, especially as the Cover Plates are essentially Nintendo's greatest idea in terms of money making. Allowing every model to be a limited edition one with the purchase of £10.99 Skull Kid Plate Set.
@Bazly
Nintendo didn't just do this for no reason. I'm pretty sure some of the best analysts in America are better at their job than you are.
You never know, maybe the regular 'new' 3ds will go America if there is enough demand for it.
@rjejr but those covers are not official nintendo... (Sarcasm?) but you do make one heck of a point!
@Chaos_Eevee Sorry, but your statement is that you would rather see Nintendo shut it doors, rather than letting other (perhaps not as "experienced" as yourself) people enjoy this iteration of the 3DS? Wow. That is very selfish attitude. Should they also make a lane hjust for you on the freeway? I know I would want one (as would everyone else on this site) but doesn't mean I tell people not to drive on the freeway, just cause we didn't get what we wanted. Selfish does not begin to sum up your sentiment.
@AVahne
It will be a success and they won't release the standard model.
They could compare sales numbers for different models all they want. It still shouldnt mean a lack of choice for one region while most of the others still get that choice. The Ambassador promotion in Europe makes this even more confusing, if NoA wont release the faceplate model....then why not at least release it as a Club.Nintendo promotion.
The kids I know like the 2DS and regular 3DS models, when commuting in NYC or walking in Disney World...those are the two models I see everywhere. The issue of extra costs for Nintendo would disappear too, considering they'll be selling faceplates like crazy and probably running out of stock for those within hours.
But alas, it wasnt meant to be so I wont be upgrading. The weight of the top screen and that clicking hinge just make the XL models uncomfortable for me. Consumer choice is just that...a choice made by the consumer, not their bottom line sales data team.
@Inkling
a lot of people feel the same, I am going give it few more days and then going to ring the bank to reverse the charge on my Card.
I'm guessing the reason they wanted to only release the XL is because of the feedback they got from the original being small and not fit for big hands.
Whenever I play my XL, It feels very comfortable and I do intend to get the new one because of it having better speakers. Quite frankly, the only reason why I liked the original model better than the XL is because of its loud speakers and if this new one here has that, then there's really no reason to even get the new standard one because of it being smaller. If a game can be played in a big screen with an affordable price, people will mostly buy that.
This could also be NoA's fault seeing that they sometimes screw up the market but if you ask me, I don't mind it at all. I'm sure that NoA has their reasons and they needed to figure out how to sell the new 3DS XL.
I don't know as players, why so many of them talks about marketing. The question is as simple as: do you or any of your friends want to by a regular new 3DS if it's available in NA? If nobody want to bother about it, it's done. But I found at least 1/3 of players want it and really disappointed. That's the matter. It's true that maybe half of them will be forced to buy new 3DS XL, which means NOA only lose 1/6 of the total potential buyers, but on the other hand, don't forget that the one who got regular new 3DS will more likely to throw more money in all on the device because of the cover plate.
I like carrying my 3ds out and about for streetpass but I play it most at home. Still can't decide between normal or xl model. Faceplates or tardis blue xl? Also the US should have had both models, not everyone likes phablets!
Personally I'm glad they are bringing the XL over here, the small systems always hurt my hands. It's also why I have a battery grip for my Vita, my hands cramp up if I don't have it. I get people are mad about this choice, but I can guess a few reasons why they went this route. (Also the buttons on the small one are loveydoveywuving ugly)
A)It's Cultural thing, can you honestly tell me in the states we are generally big on customizing are own devices? I know we do it here, but on the scale like japan. Just look at our tech in general, it's always the same colors or slight variations of (Wow that midnight blue looks like black from a distance).
B)I wouldn't be more shocked if the XL is only here because people rave about it more. Feels like when ever the XL is announced people rave on and on how they should have done it originally.
C)They don't want to compete with the 2DS. I'm pretty sure if the New 3DS comes out it will cost more then the 2DS, and people will be more likely to snatch that up still because it would be cheaper.
I know I might be not liked for this, but I rather have the XL mostly so I can play the damn thing without having to buy a add on so it doesn't hurt. The XL still fits in my pocket when I go out. Speaking of hand cramping if Nintendo patches Kid Icarus to use that second stick for dual analog (Cause they whined about how the 3DS isn't powerful enough to do that) I would by it again. I know it's all opinion but that game should have been flogged for including a stand to help with playing it.
I can't wait for the New 3ds to come out in Febuary. I'm gonna love playing Majaras Mask and seeing it in a different perspective by using the new nub controller. The Atlus games are gonna be magnificent on my New 3DS XL because I'm looking forward to the new motion sensor for viewing 3D. Xenoblade Chronicles is just gonna boost me with so much Hype for Xenoblade WiiU. Not only am I gonna get to play one of the best RPG in a generation ,but I'm gonna get to bring it with me on the go. It fits in my pocket /bag perfectly. The speedier downloads are gonna be another God sent. Downloading on the current 3ds is down right archaic. Mii verse is gonna be better on the new 3DS as well and improved browser speed is another awesome thing I'm gonna be looking forward to. I can't get the normal blue color I normally get but that's not gonna get me down. I'm gonna pick up my new 3DS XL day one and to use these new feature and play these fantastic games. I'm emphasizing games because that's what it is about. Not about sales, not about marketing, not about a faceplate, not about a standard size, it is about the GAMES. Anybody that fails to see it just isn't a true gamer and I'm not sorry if I offended any hypersentive people.
@River3636 Well, I want the standard size and they aren't offering it in my region, so I'll be enjoying my GAMES on my old 3DS.
Well said
It's a shame that normal-sized New Nintendo 3DS won't be arriving here in North America. But it's not like I was going to get one anyway. If my normal 3DS can play Majora's Mask, I'm happy with it.
The real killer for me is the Micro SD. I currently have a 128 GB SD card in my original 3DS that wasn't cheap to make sure I'd never have a space crunch again. If I upgrade to a New 3DS, which I'd love to do, I'll have to spend another $100 to have the same amount of space again, and the current card I have is now crap.
@therick112 you are so right about that micro sd card. I am not looking forward to that one. I won't transfer for my data for a little while. Think I'll trade one of my 3dses in to compensate.
@MasterBlaster Lol
@LordGeovanni
Exactly.
WE'RE the customers. WE'RE the ones that give them money. If anything, they should be thanking fans for sticking with them this long. At this point, Nintendo has mainly been a smaller community. THESE ARE THE REASONS WHY PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO BUY ANYMORE.
I've been very unhappy with NoA as of, at least, the last 4 years. This is absolutely ridiculous. IF EUROPE AND AUSTRALIA, PAL regions mind you, HAVEN'T BEEN GETTING SCREWED OVER, THAT'S PRETTY SAD (no offense to you guys, but I mean as PAL regions, you guys have usually got the short end of the deal).
I am pretty sure at the end of the day, Reggie is the one who makes the final call. If he is, he should be outed. He's a jerk and completely ignores the fans. NINTENDO OF AMERICA LITERALLY DOESN'T CARE FOR THEIR FANS. LOOK AT ALL THE EVIDENCE IN AT LEAST THE PAST 4 YEARS!
They don't even care for things they know to be cash cows (Amiibos, bundles, etc). SO DON'T GIVE ME THE EXCUSE THAT "THEY WANT TO MAKE MONEY", I USE THE EUROPE THING AGAIN. IF THEY HAVE MORE STOCK, THAT'S REALLY SAD. Don't defend something if it's wrong, you only encourage them. I'm not saying be a jerk when you complain to/about them, but give NoA some backlash, not just for the Regular New 3DS, but for all these recent issues. If a child does something wrong, you let them know; it's the same for a company, but on a larger scale.
I've just about had it with NoA. I'm not buying the New 3DS XL. I'm gonna wait for all this backlash they so rightfully deserve for all the stuff they've put us through to sink in. If not, consider my business with them done. I hope that some of you give them some (polite) backlash as well.
@k8sMum
The whole "vote with your wallet" thing doesn't work as well as most people think it does. If their sales are low, they won't know why, and there's no way they'll convince stores to sell a smaller version of the same thing after the first one bombed.
I don't know why the XL is so much more popular. Yeah the original isn't the best looking console but then I don't think the XL is particularly sleek in design. I own both, and I have always used my smaller model as my main console. Mainly because it's smaller, it makes it easier to fit in my pocket. Not such a worry in the past, as I rarely play handheld games outside of my own bedroom. But with the addition of StreetPass, I find myself taking my console out with me whenever possible, even if it's a trip to the cinema because there's a chance I will pass a hotspot and grab 7 Miis. So in at a time when Nintendo have made it worthwhile to travel with your console, why are people opting for the bigger, chunkier model?
There's also the issue for me that the bigger screens offer the same resolution across bigger screens, making text look more blurred and graphics more jagged. Bigger screens are great! But not when they actually make games look worse at the end of the day. So yeah, I use my smaller model for my main, and I'd be super annoyed if Nintendo decided not to release the smaller New 3DS in my country, forcing me to upsize, especially with exclusive games being compatible with the new hardware.
@Baker1000
The smaller one is my main as well (but my XL is also in Japanese).
I'm actually due for an update; my regular 3DS's shoulder pads are starting to go. That's why I was happy to get the newer, smaller one. But now, my dreams are dashed.
I hope NoA wises up and releases the Regular New 3DS. Even if it is online-only, I'm sure many will flock to it.
@JaxonH - I understand people being upset - heck I lost my mind over Kirby being delayed exactly 7 days (thanks for not giving me a hard time BTW, I'm better now ) but I never felt like I was commenting on that or them. My only initial comment was about how the long 2 person perspective article didn't include any mention of the 2DS, and how just maybe the US isn't getting the new 3DS b/c Nitneod wants to split the market between XL and 2DS. Or maybe a "new" 2DS.
So I get the outrage, I feel their pain, and I don't agree with Ntinedo's decision (but it seems I almost never do), but I just don't get how the authors and others ignored the 2DS as a plausible reason for why no "new" 3DS in the US. I was trying to solve the mystery which doesn't seem that baffling to me, the anger I get.
Keep in mind, The average consumer won't be aware of the existence of the smaller model elsewhere in the world. Most people who don't follow game journalism sites regularly will only know about products released in their territory, and won't be pining over what Japan/Europe has, and they can't get.
I'm surprised so many people actually prefer the smaller model. I have an XL and playing my nephews standard model is so jarring. It feels weird.
@Arcamenel The same can be said for me and the XL, since I mainly play on the smaller model.
@rjejr
(I can't remember if someone had mentioned this earlier, so I apologize if they did, but...) You have a valid point with the 2DS, if not for one key thing: Europe has the 2DS, and yet are still getting both the 3DS and 3DS XL - they'll have 3 different models at once. In the end, it just comes down to NoA - they have decided that not enough of their consumers prefer the normal size to warrant even giving the option. Sucks for people like me, but that's that.
@ryanator008 ok, so we can't whine, we don't have any impact financially...(please don't assume I think ninty is gonna worry about my not buying from them.)
Unless the are completely oblivious (and they may well be), they will know the whys of it. Do I think it will change anything? I doubt it. I think they would rather shoot themselves in the foot rather then admit they screwed up big this time.
This doesn't ruin my life. It's a gaming system. But I can and will express my feelings of disappointment.
@BLPs No, you aren't. I love my midnight purple 3ds and I wouldn't change it for the bigger model. The games look more pixelated and the handled's design isn't as good as the regular one to me.
I do get what you are saying, I'm american, but I'm not from the United States, I'm from Mexico, and yeah, we have bigger problems that what handled is gonna come to our country. However, it's good that people speak what they desire, since as you said life is unfair, but many times that happens because we don't speak our minds. You are right about asking it nicely and being patient though, they tend to overreact over small things, because even if they really want the handled, it's still just that, a handled, a way of entertainment. They should show their discontent by not buying the new one and signing petitions for the regular model and if they don't manage to get it, they should be happy with what they have or in any other case, if their disappointment is so big, then they should stop supporting Nintendo.
I have a feeling they'll make the standard model an exclusive purchase at certain stores sometime in the future. It could see it going the way of the Gameboy Advance Micro (which also had interchangable plates) and be marketed to the "hip and cool" crowd, sold here and there and quietly fade into obscurity after the small amount of people who wanted it (like me) gets it. Then they can sell plates online or people can import them or whatever.
My only hope is that IF they do that, they don't publicly announce it as "limited run" or "special edition" because whenever that happens, people with more money than decency will buy up all the stock at once and scalp the living hell out of them.
@ThomasBW84 I couldn't have said it better myself. Portability is an important factor when it comes to raising public awareness of a new product, growing the street-pass community, and just serving as a portable console in general.
That said, it looks like my new micro SD card might be spending quite a bit of time alone in its package. Sigh.
@BLPs, @roy130390
Have either of you even bothered to read the comments here or is it more comfortable to just rely on stereotypes? I don't seen tantrums or true rants. I see people responding to a decision they are disappointed in.
Your descriptions sound more like The Guardian btl comments. Contrary to the image in your minds, we are no more all alike than brits or Mexicans. How do you know what 'most' Americans do? Do you know most Americans? Didn't think so.
I'm an atheist, so there goes your assumptions right off the bat.
@BLPs
I, too, have been in my own personal hell, for about 10 years now - and don't have a way "back." Since I can't control that, I take small amounts of pleasure from the little things - things that distract me from the big things. So although not truly important, they're still important to me. Getting the chance to buy the white standard N3DS - like every other region, mind you - was something I was really looking forward to, regardless of how ultimately unimportant it is.
More importantly, as k8sMum just said, where are you seeing tantrums? Literally 90 to 95% (at least) of the people I've seen voice their displeasure - whether here or at GameFAQs or in petitions - have done so in a calm, respectful way; merely letting their disappointment be known. What's wrong with that? Do you think we don't know that these are just video game problems? I assure you, we do. I know that as well as any. So I'm not quite understanding what we're doing that is so wrong or offensive.
@Rocky2418
Hell is pretty crowded. Mine began March 16, 2001. Like you, there's no way back. Gaming helps, tho, doesn't it? Anticipation for consoles and games is something to look forward to, to let some light in. No, it's not life changing or anything, but it's fun which is sometimes hard to find.
Exactly - couldn't have said it better.
@Platypus101 No, I only mentioned the DSi bit because I do not want others to be disappointed like I was. You took what I said way out of context. I want Nintendo to see that their products with bad names and design decisions ("Wii U" "New 3DS") fail miserably and then come back from that. They have enough money in the bank to do so. They need to see failure to let their egos soften up a bit so they can go back to making smarter decisions. Sony did the same thing, the Playstation 2 was a massive success, they got cocky with the PS3 and look what happened. It only became profitable in 2011 I believe? They learned from their mistakes and made the PS4. Even Microsoft did the same thing. Xbox 360, massive success. They got cocky with the Xbox One and faced massive backlash.
Nintendo saw the success of the Wii and the 3DS and got cocky, and they need to fail to succeed again.
@k8sMum
So you're saying that it will make no impact, yet you go on about how Nintendo would respond to it impacting... What? We all know that the small 3DS and DSi didn't sell well in America. I never see them around town. The amount of people that really like those and also weren't willing to switch to XL is very small. It'll take a tiny slice out of the New 3DS XL's sales, and Nintendo knows that already. If the New 3DS fails, it won't be because of the small amount of people they alienated. And in that situation they wouldn't be able to bring out the smaller version, because no stores would carry something that would sell less than something that, in that situation, had very little sales to begin with.
And about your whining? It's pointless. It's already been said, and it's not changing Nintendo's mind.
@ryanator008 I get the idea that when you complain you consider it complaining. When others complain you consider it whining. Look up what George Carlin said about stuff.
I said they would know the whys of it thru websites such as this airing people's dissatisfaction with there decision. Will customer dissatisfaction have any impact? I honestly don't know. You must have a crystal ball because you are certain of everything.
I just really wish that the regular black model will come to AUS/NZ soon, because it just look so much nicer than the white one to me.
@Jesh
This is actually one of the reasons we are encouraging people to call them directly versus the email. The email they send in response (now woth a wait time of a day or two once read by customer support) does come across scripted but someone actually has to read it before you get the response back.
If you wish to call to leave feedback about how you feel regarding the lack of the smaller system, you can reach them here: 1-800-255-3700 ext 5 then 4
@BinaryFragger
In line with what you just said about doubting Nintendo would be upset with fans for providing feedback... I just called the number Shikabane provided above, a few hours ago; and in just the span of about 2 minutes, I calmly provided my personal complaint/feedback regarding the lack of a regular N3DS in this region, having them record it. And at the end of the call, you know what she said? That if I have any other complaint I'd like to share in the future, I can feel free to use the online customer support or just call again if I prefer.
Indeed, Nintendo has no problem with fans providing feedback or complaints (done respectfully, of course). They probably won't do anything about it, sadly, but no, there is nothing wrong with what we're doing - nothing out of the bounds of what Nintendo allows, and even encourages, such as at the end of that phone call.
We're not starting a radical movement here, guys. We're merely upset with a glaring exclusion, and are letting them know that we are, even if nothing is likely to change. I don't see why we're being criticized for this - if Nintendo doesn't mind, why should any fans here mind? Truth is, if I had wanted the XL all along, and they announced that's all we'd be getting, I'd simply be thankful and look forward to the release; I wouldn't be going into the discussions of the fans who really wanted the other model and giving them a hard time over their disappointment and decision to be proactive about it. I don't see why I'd even enter into the discussion.
But alas, I suppose there are people out there who simply enjoy tearing others down, just for the heck of it. Despite the fact that I see it all the time, though, I still can't even begin to understand it.
This whole fiasco could've been avoided if Nintendo reversed region locking.
@Rocky2418 Yes and no. Nintendo made the 3DS XL to entice people that wanted a bigger handheld. Now Nintendo is saying that the crowed that wants the improved smaller version has to get the XL or not upgrade. Kinda one sided.
@Pink_Floyd
My apologies, but I'm not sure what your "yes and no" was regarding in my post. I said several things, and don't quite know what part of it that was addressing. Let me know - thanks.
@Rocky2418 The point I was trying to make is that Nintendo should've made both. Even if they produced the XL 3 to one it would have made everyone happy. Instead they want you to choke down what they are offering and if you don't like it call customer service. And maybe just maybe they will offer the smaller 3DS but no guarantee.
@Pink_Floyd
I agree with you completely. That's why I was (and still am) confused - it sounded like you thought I was in agreement with NoA in only releasing the XL. Good lord, no. I'm one of the people arguing for the standard N3DS being released here. I'm at least as upset as anyone else here. I was planning to get the white standard model on day 1, and was devastated by the exclusion of it in the Direct.
Anyway, that's why I was a bit lost - you're preachin' to the choir.
@Rocky2418 Yes but as a value costumer we shouldn't have to take time out of our busy schedule and call Nintendo. Thats what I'm saying.
Ah, gotcha - now I understand what you were saying. Yes, I agree about that, too. I was merely saying that there's nothing "whiny" or "childish" about calling to voice a complaint, as many people have either implied or said outright (even saying that it's tying up NoA's phone line or being a nuisance). That's all.
No, we absolutely shouldn't have to, I agree. Just explaining to the people critical of people like us that it's okay to do, even from NoA's standpoint.
@Rocky2418 - EU having the 2DS may be a reason for the US to also get new 3DS, but I don't see it as a reason for the 2DS not being a factor in NOA deciding not to bring the new 3DS here right now. Japan has the 3DS and 3DS LL but they havent gotten the 2DS yet. Japan and EU have 3DS and 3DS XL, US and EU have 2DS and new 3DS XL.
I dont know the final reason why the US isnt getting the new 3DS Feb 13, but I feel confident 2DS was a factor. Not the only factor, maybe not even a huge factor, but if there were no 2DS there would be a new 3DS, so its a factor, and it was never even hinted at in the article, which I found odd.
Fair enough.
More so, if it were just this most of us probably would of shrugged it off. But Nintendo of America has done a lot of this for the past 9 years.
Ash, Soma Bringer, Fatal Frame, Captain Rainbow, Tingle, and several more that the fans were denied.
It leads us to two things. Nintendo of America is either incompetent at reading that "Nintendo fans want Nintendo games." Or they are spineless if it is in fact Nintendo of Japan deciding everything for them.
@Bazly
You think you know better than the big boys at Nintendo It's natural to feel that you're smarter than everyone, but you have to understand that these folks know what they're doing. They didn't sell 40 million in the 3DSs by being dumb.
@ryanator008 Man those big boys did a great job with the Wiiu's launch, a great job!Sold millions! Especially with the 3DS when it first launched,yup they know what they're doing alright.
I almost doesn't matter, until NOA releases the smaller unit in the US, I will abstain from upgrading.
To everyone saying that the XL outselling the regular 3DS in the original line up, that really isn't a fair comparison and I hope Nintendo is not following that logic. The original 3DS design was horrible for many reasons:
-It was angular and uncomfortable to hold.
-It was a finger print magnet.
-The raised lower screen would scratch the upper screen.
-The hinges were weak and floppy.
I could go on. The only thing it has going for it is the pixel density is higher so the image looks amazing on the smaller version. IF Nintendo had released a smaller sized unit designed like a smaller XL or similar in design to the New 3DS then I think the numbers would have been quite different. Of course it picked up when the XL came out, it is the superior design. It would be better for Nintendo to release both and let the consumer decide. I know I was leaning towards a regular New 3DS but will happily get an XL. If they come out with the normal size I will just upgrade my son's unit and pass him down my new XL.
@k8sMum
Complaining:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/complaining?s=t
Whining:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/whining?s=ts
I guess you could say It's how I read your posts. But given how entitled you're acting, that just came naturally. But don't worry, internet demand makes anything possible!
https://www.change.org/p/cartoon-network-warner-bros-bring-back-young-justice-and-green-lantern-the-animated-series
https://www.change.org/p/nintendo-co-ltd-port-smash-bros-4-to-the-psvita
https://www.change.org/p/microsoft-give-us-back-the-xbox-one-we-were-promised-at-e3-2
@midnafanboy @bazly
It's a hard job. They only did what made sense. Really, most of it was out of their hands. The world just moved on after the Wii and DS. There isn't much they could have done about it. That said we should set our sights at the current state of Wii U and 3DS sales. The 3DS is a huge success, and the Wii U is slowly picking up. A few ammeters would get a situation like the Ouya, which didn't pick up, despite them thinking that they were hot stuff.
@ryanator008
Well, they could have, I don't know, done what everyone has been saying they should have done. Drop the Wii name, as like you said, people have moved on from the Wii; MARKET MORE, put a lot more ads on TV and for heaven's sake, get rid of the cheesy child-friendly ad focus covered in sprinkles and gumdrops. There's a bright and cheery appeal, and then there's... whatever those ads are.
Also they should have had better games at launch. Yes, Nintendo boasts how the 3DS and Wii U have had the largest game lineup at launch ever, but those games really aren't appealing to most Nintendo fans... at least that's how it seems.
Really, if Nintendo of America was run by competent people, these problems would be a lot less.
Also quit being rude.
@Wilford111
If they dropped the Wii name, people would complain that nobody would know that it's the successor to the Wii. If they delayed the system launch to get more games ready, then they would have much bigger problems. The Wii already wore out its welcome, and the momentum was dead. The Wii U needed to release when it did, or its situation would be much worse.
@Bazly
Your opinions make no sense, and Nintendo won't answer your pleas (and probably even planned for them). Just go with the bigger one. If your pockets are to small, get bigger pockets. Mine fit my XL perfectly fine. If people can find ways to carry tablets around, I think you can find a solution for something much smaller. And if you don't get a New 3DS XL anyway, then you have nothing to complain about. $0 for nothing is a pretty good deal.
@ryanator008
Funny how you think you know what you're talking about.
sigh... sorry, I don't mean to be rude, but it is very annoying how you are making everyone out to be some kind of moron, just because they want something they can't have. Show a little consideration, okay?
opinion - "a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty; a personal view" (taken from dictionary.com)
With that in mind:
"Your opinions make no sense."
That would be your cue to stop trying to reason with such a person. I... don't know what more to say than that.
@Wilford111
You mock me, then call me rude. I am totally lost.
@ryanator008 You are rude, that's for sure.
But, I'm sorry for that little statement. I was just a little frustrated by how close-minded you're being.
@Wilford111
What about you? Are you not rude? Do you get a free pass? We need equality!
@ryanator008 Nevermind, you're hopeless. Forget I said anything.
@Wilford111
We do not forgive. We do not forget.
@k8sMum
Dude, the one that seems that didn't pay the proper attention to my comment is you. As I said, I agree about demanding from Nintendo the products that you want. However, some people do react as if it's the end of the world, and that depends on the interpretation of the person that is reading the comments so you can't say I'm wrong and viceversa. Have you seen me attacking any user of this site? No. You know why? Because I wasn't even talking about anyone from this site (In fact I was defending them, that's why I talked abuout life being unffair in great part because we don't speak our minds). I'm also part of other gaming communities, so I have seen lots of overreaction about this news. With all due respect, the only one relying on stereotypes (thinking anyone from another country attacks the United States) is you for the way you have replied. Also, if you didn't notice, I'm also from America and that's why I salid to BLPs that I'm Mexican, since there are a lot more countries in America than just the United States, and also as an example that America does have bigger problems that just what handled comes to our country.
Also, I didn't mention religion at any point, so that's why I wouldn't recommend you replying to 2 or more different persons at once.
As a European in the UK obviously our market works very differently and contains different audiences however I do stress how popular preorders for the regular 3ds have been. A lot of people I know, family, friends and myself have preordered one and if it hadn't been for the faceplates I wouldn't have bothered since I have the pikachu xl. NOA have their reasons respectively but equally giving the option of choice is important. However it seems our regular 3ds - while not selling more than the xl, seems to have sold more. The faceplates are quirky and add uniqueness to the device and it's user plus I have actually imported a couple from Japan too whilst excitedly waiting for the release on Feb 13th. That being said, my partner who lives in America owns the xl currently and plans to move straight onto the 'new' xl whilst he says the xl is popular among his circle of friends. Whether NOA has made a business decision based on numbers or surveys is irrelevant, they must've felt the market wasn't enough at the current time to warrant a release for the standard but I think it's still a little unfair and people have a right to be disappointed. I have signed petitions for the regular one to be released over there, as it seems many people are very keen for it. I wouldn't worry too much though, as I'm sure they'll see there is a bigger market for it than they thought and release later in the year!
Speaking of NoA making their decision based on "the numbers"... Someone in a GameFAQs thread posted a link to Nintendo sales data, including the lifetime sales of 3DS and 3DS XL in Japan, America, and other territories. I decided to take a close look at it - crunch the numbers, and so forth - and unless I'm missing something, what I found was not what people claim. Even excluding the 3DS sales that took place prior to the XL's release - when there was no 2nd option - America had the highest percentage ratio of regular 3DS to XL sales during the first year of XL's existence (almost exactly 50%). And even during the XL's entire lifetime, when the 2DS was cutting into America's regular 3DS sales, said ratio was still almost as high as Japan, who didn't even have the 2DS cutting into the regular sales. Here's the link to all the specifics that I broke down:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/997614-nintendo-3ds/71032654?page=33
It's post #333, on that page. Supposedly Americans prefer the XL more than other countries do - so why does this data say otherwise? In any case, overall, it seems to be about a 2:1 ratio of XL to regular sales across the board during the XL's lifespan, with Japan and America actually having a higher percentage for the regular than other territories. Two to one; is it really wise to exclude the preference of 33% of your fans? Why not just produce both, but produce only half as many of the smaller model?
I digress, I flat out don't understand it; less so, now that I've seen these numbers.
Oh yeah, I forgot. Here's the link to the actual sales data, so you can see where I got the numbers:
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/library/historical_data/pdf/consolidated_sales_e1409.pdf
@ryanator008 @ryanator008
Do you work for Nintendo? It's the only explanation I can come up with for your blind belief that everything Nintendo does it right and other people's opinions-Nintendos customers remember-'make no sense' or that they should 'get bigger pockets' to accommodate Nintendo not giving them the product they wanted.
These analysts-the folks who 'know what they're doing' in your head-are helping to oversee a flop home Console, a handheld Console that had a dreadful launch and though recovered is selling much less than it's predecessor, recently annoyed a lot of their customers with this new 3DS launch and failing to launch games on the Wii, and three years of losses for the company. Don't try and hold them up as infallible and right, and the customer as wrong. It simply doesn't add up.
@Rocky2418
Yes, that makes Nintendos decision even stranger. It really appears they've got this wrong and will have to backpedal or lose out on customers
Just give us a successor in 2016.
I would have purchased a standard one, but not bothering with the XL. Don't care for it. I'm annoyed, but that's as far as I'll go. I mean, it's not like it would have cost NoA a ton to have the firmware set to North America; no real additional parts are needed for a specific continent, so production numbers should be unaffected. Heck, release it as something we can only buy online, keeping retailers happy about stock. I'd be willing to wait a couple of weeks, too, if it means pulling it out of a pool of systems for another region. The limitation, with few conceivable downsides if they're imaginative, is what I don't get. They SHOULD be able to make more money without sticking their necks out.
I thought it was annoying they've limited the choice in certain regions, and made both Europe and the US wait until Feb 13th.
Though being in the UK, i decided to buy the New 3DS XL Australian model (From 365Games) as i didn't want to wait any more and the price wasn't much more than the current price when released.
I can't wait for delivery now xD
@Cloud-San-VII I feel for you. Like I said, if they decided not to do a small release in the UK I would hit the roof. Especially as I prefer to colour options on the launch models over the XL too. I hope they see sense and release it in NA.
Put it this way, I already have an XL and want a portable smaller version for the subway commute. Pocketable the xl is not. Nintendo dropped the ball for many commuters.
I can understand the frustration, but I can also find a lot more to whine about than this. Nintendo has been busting it to continually make their product better, and it shows.
Say iPhone did the same thing and released only the 6 plus in America. There would be huge backlash.
NL: "Nintendo doesn't owe me anything and I don't deserve anything from the company just for being a customer".
This is the sad reality we had to face when we were hoping for a Western release for Zero/Fatal Frame 5. Nintendo doesn't really care about their customers, even though we make their business profitable. They just want to tell us what games and handhelds to buy.
@VanillaLake Nintendo is at their best when they're the underdog and fighting. They're at their worst when they adopt the arrogant we-know-best attitude. Somehow they're managing both attitudes at the same time.
@Vineleaf Yes, that is very true. When the 3DS and the Wii U launched Nintendo thought they would be a huge success because of their names but they didn't and Nintendo had to offer a fairer price and better games. Now they are making good 3DS and Wii U games but also making daft decisions nobody but them would understand. When you are a child all about Nintendo (or anything) is good and magical but then you grow up and get baffled and disappointed by them.
I had the original 3DS in the past (ambassador one) and now I have a 3DS XL. Both of these designs disappointed me (lack of second analogue button, too sensitive 3D, very poor pixel density on XL's screens, etc.), now they are offering the smaller New 3DS which is great and solves those problems, but why so late? I live in Europe but if I lived in North America the New 3DS wouldn't be available in my territory. Also, Wii U needs more exclusive games but Zero/Fatal Frame 5 which was paid and co-developed by Nintendo is Japan-exclusive. Yes, we did get the poor 3DS spin-off (:/). I've tried but I can't understand Nintendo's decisions.
Any indications of what special edition new 3DS consoles might come in future?
@YoshiTails There have been rumours about a Fire Emblem future new 3ds xl but that wouldn't be just yet if it did happen.
since the release of N3DS in japan of october, i was already set on getting the the standard N3DS model. i never really had an issue with the standard 3ds in the first place since i just taught myself to deal with it, plus i much prefer the face plate thing. however, nintendo has making some "questionable" decisions with the N3DS family this time around, and the absence of the standard model in NA is only one of them. at any rate, there's no way i'm getting the XL model unless the new fire emblem game gets a special edition or something. until then, i'll just wait or finally get that japanese 3ds i always wanted anyway.
I've always bought the smaller version because of the price. But now this just gives me an excuse to buy the (IMO) better version.
"Only Nintendo could make me want a system that I already have." -My friend
Well I'm still pissed that they won't bring the regular New 3DS and I complained a lot about not wanting an XL since I liked the portability of the regular but I have to admit that while playing MH3U I though it would be better on a bigger screen. Since I'm really looking forward to the new Monster Hunter game, tomorrow I'm trading in a DSi, two 360 games (BF4 and GTA V), two Nintendo Wii games (Mario Kart and New Super Mario), a lot of DS and 3DS games (from Nintendo). I'm hoping to have enough for MH4U and to pay a bit of a red New 3DS XL. We'll see but it could be cool. I could trade in MH3U since I'll have the fourth one but I think I'd miss it.
NoA are secretly in bed with Microsoft and are trying to bring Nintendo down from the inside.
@OGGamer
I really think the analogy should go more like this.
ME: Waiter, I've been hearing all about your NEW restaurant opening, and your NEW menu, especially the STEAK. I've heard everyone has been raving about the STEAK. So let's do this.
Waiter: Sorry, Sir. We don't serve STEAK. We have the FISH. But it's NEW. And delicious.
ME: Uh, OK...that's cool. I like fish....but what's not cool is I can see the guy at the next table eating STEAK!! And it looks awesome! Matter of fact, everyone around me is eating STEAK!
Waiter: Sorry, Sir. Those are EURO/JPN tables. And I'm afraid they are region locked.
ME: Know what? I would never eat here. But...on 2nd thought, I will take an order of the FISH will the limited edition seasonal MM sauce. To GO!
Waiter: I'm afraid we're all out of limited edition MM, Sir. We ran out this morning.
ME: Go Amiibo yourself.
I just can't wait for me MM N3DS XL
This is me just trying to be hopeful, but I was thinking that perhaps the limited variants in color and size of the new 3ds in North America is some type of marketing ploy. There's obviously been lots of hype going around about the new face plates on the normal sized 3ds, and since it isn't available, it's of course going to be more desired, after all people want what they can't have. Personally, I'm not a fan of the XL's either, but it's just because I have smaller hands, and it does not fit comfortably in them, nor am I a fan of the colors they have released for the new 3ds XL in North America, but I know the second they release more colors that I find more desirable, It'll be more likely that I will purchase one. I know choosing not to buy the console for it's color seems petty, but why buy something expensive if you don't love it entirely? Perhaps I'm getting carried away here, but it doesn't seem like that bad of an idea.
@Peach64 and others
I think that there is a market for an small 3DS, specially one that comes with changing faceplates. Still yes, I'm sticking to the new 3DSXL because I'm a big man, with really big hands and diminishing eyesight.
Maybe Reggie thought that with the 2DS could be sufficient to appease those who want an smaller 3DS.
@anem0ne
I'll love one, along with a much needed Kirby special edition (there hasn't been one ever, except for a KIrby Squeaky Squad DS Lite given at a competition (they only issued like 20 or 50). Also, A metroid-based 3DSXl could make a splash sometime.
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