Topic: Why i think that there will be no new Nintendo Home Console till 2015.

Wow, this is long.

Gimme a min to reply with a good response.

Theories are theories.

Hmm, makes sense I guess.
I hope they don't come out with another console for a long time, as I just got over the fact that I've spent so much on my Wii/remotes/games/accessories.

nintendo has said repeatedly they have no interest in an HD upgrade to the current wii. they deny a lot of things these days, but they usually keep their denials vague enough that they can get away with going back on them later; the HD upgrade denial was pretty specific and i doubt they were lying.

even with HD output, the wii will still be significantly less powerful than it's competitors. what's the point? i doubt it's possible for an external add-on to alter the capabilities of the wii's internal hardware, so HD wii means buying a new system. are the 55 million people who own a wii going to spend a few hundred all over again for the same thing in HD, or is it going to attract the PS3 and 360 fans who scoff at the notion of buying a wii now? the casual crowd has proven that they don't care about graphics, and the hardcores who do care won't touch the wii no matter what upgrades it gets.

they could coax some people into buying another wii by adding additional improvements like more powerful hardware and dvd playback along with HD, but at that point it's not the same system and i doubt that sony and microsoft's "the same thing but better" strategy is the direction nintendo wants to go for their next system. their plan for this year is to keep the wii afloat with strong software alone; next year, when all the 1st party titles have been exhausted and it's up to 3rd party titles to sustain the wii, it'll be the beginning of the end. that's the time to introduce an all new nintendo that does something amazing, which i think makes a lot more sense then an HD capable wii.

I do agree that we won't see a new Nintendo console until around 2015 (just in time to go shopping in our flying cars according to "Back to the Future 2"), but I doubt there will be an HD add-on. I wouldn't care if there was, since my family doesn't have an HD TV or care (myself included) to get one anytime soon (We consider HD highly overrated), especially if they drop GameCube support like the DSi did with GBA support.

If graphic/cpu/memory power is not multiplied by 10, just making it able to emit in HD is a nonsense. HD just affects screen resolution, it doesnt mean the objects will be more detailed or you will have any better textures, shadows, reflections, etc. For better example, lets suppose they add an HDMI connector to the DS so you can see DS images in HD TVs at full resolution. Fine, but the graphics will not be any better. HD makes sense when you have a hardware that really can take advantage of larger resolutions, which is not the case of the Wii.

Nintendo always revamps their handhelds, while keeping their consoles pretty much the same for the most part, the N64 had the expansion pack and 64DD, but peripherals seem to be easier to sell than upgrades, as for blu ray I personally doubt it, big N have always been a bit odd in choosing their consoles media, while blu ray has many advantages I feel it would be kind of out of step for Nintendo to take the obvious route, but who knows.

Waiting to 2015 is a long console life. The Wii is already far enough behind technically.

Also using wikipedia as a reference doesn'tadd credibility.

This all sounds really expensive and not worth Nintendo's time with their current popularity. I did read an article somewhere though about how Nintendo is considering making a hybrid HD/SD (or HD/regular-D in layman's terms) console sometime in the future. (Most likely the FAR future.)

The Wii is the new NES in terms of longevity. The NES was still in production even when the N64 was released, and the Wii won't cease production until at least 2016.

Reasons why they WON'T make an HD version of the Wii:

-Nintendo doesn't traditionally redesign the technical specs when releasing an update on CONSOLE hardware. In other words is always just a physical change. And yes, an HD version of Wii would require a huge increase in processing power.

-All the games thus far have only been designed for standard resolutions and it's unlikely that a universal solution exist to upscale every game properly. If you look at the emu scene, which I in no way promote by the way, each individual ROM image needs to have different settings in order to run efficiently. By efficiently I mean simply playable as the games tend to run with technical hickups such as framerate drops, missing or distorted objects and/or distorted sound. Not to mention the lag involved with upscaling can completely render fast timing games, like Punch-Out!!, unplayable. It's just not as easy as everyone thinks to update to HD.

-The Current Wii model is still doing quite well sales wise, so why confuse consumers by introducing a new SKU where it's soul improvement is an increase in resolution? Something that I'm not sure the majority of Wii owners care about, I might add. I'm aware they've done it in the past with the Game Boy and DS lines but it's different with portables as they tend to be considered "disposable technology". A person can buy a lot of cell phones in a short amount of time but they don't buy a new DVD player if the one they have is still working. It's the same with portables/consoles.

As sure as I am that Nintendo is not readying a WiiHD, I'm just as certain that HD technology will be a vital part of their true next console, which I believe will be here in two or three years time.

@Rhansley64

Even if a HD upgrade does happen none of those game are likely to be ported as most people who own a wii who wants those games own a 360/PS3 and not only is the market not there but the wii is still underpowered.

I doubt there'll be an add-on either, since, well, when has using an add-on to try and make your console more up-to-date been a good idea?

Starfox: 2016? The poor gamecube didn't last 7 years!

I'm pretty sure that we'll see a new home console from Nintendo before 2015. The Wii by a technical standpoint is already 4-7 years behind what an average computer would be. And I don't think I can only just live off of Nintendo games when it comes to consoles for the next five years.

There were a lot of errors in your theory. That's not what matters. I see how it can make sense though.
This Wii HD thing that everyone talk about is essentially a new console, with the Wii name. It will need a better GPU to ensure it can still render these games at a higher resolution with a smooth frame rate.
Also, I have no idea why you were talking about the increased memory capacity of DS cartridges.

Well for start i use the DS increase in cartridges idea as a backing up theory that Nintendo can and will increase future Wii Optical Disc memory, second even do it's still a rumor Nintendo has a habit of redesigning there handheld system but at the same time they used to create redesign Home Console the NES 2 and SNES 2 is prove of that and third it's a possibility that Wii HD is an entirely new Console but after reading this:

http://wii.nintendolife.com/news/2010/01/reggie_no_new_consol...

I highly doubt that the rumor Wii HD is a new Console.

SuperMarioman the Gamecube was in a way unappreciated by many what StarFox was saying that just like the NES lasted a decade even after SNES release the Wii might have the same honor depending on Nintendo's choice when and where should the Wii Console stop producing which in my opinion might happen in 2020.

shingi_70 and Digiki disagree Wii is not underpowered at the same time i think PS3 and Xbox 360 is to much overpowered.

V8 Ninja don't under estimated a Console/ Handheld's life, based on NPD and other resources they can last long on their popularity the Game Boy lasted 14 Years before 100% replaced by Game Boy Advance .

Yeah, the NES lasted longer than 5 years. But the SNES was still released right on time in 1990/1991.

The release years for Nintendo systems are 86/91/96/01/06, so why would the Wii suddenly have a 9-year life cycle?
The norm for Nintendo is a new system every 5 years. During this generation their hardware is so inferior to their competitors' that they need a new system more than ever.

There will be a new Nintendo system in 2011.