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Topic: Has anyone tried running the Castlevania resurrection rom on the mini systems?

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Zeldafan79

You know that unreleased Dreamcast castlevania that got dumped online a few days ago. I wonder if that would work on the mini genesis, PS classic or whatever. Anybody know? I'd like to try it but don't want to use a PC.

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Tasuki

I don't think we can discuss that here. Try googling it instead.

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Zeldafan79

It's an unreleased Rom. Nobody could have paid for it if they wanted too. I can't talk about that but this site prints up articles about hacking and modding every week?

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Northwind

Zeldafan79 wrote:

It's an unreleased Rom. Nobody could have paid for it if they wanted too. I can't talk about that but this site prints up articles about hacking and modding every week?

Actually a fairly valid point here.

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Eel

I suppose you can ask the question as long as nobody provides instructions or links.

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Northwind

Eel wrote:

I suppose you can ask the question as long as nobody provides instructions or links.

As far as I can tell, the rules of this site - as listed under the 'Report' option for posts - forbid discussion of 'current gen emulators/homebrew'. That is, the rule itself calls out 'current gen' as being an important factor, and strongly implies that discussion of past-gen emulators/homebrew is acceptable.

Given that the ROM in question is several generations old (or rather, would be several generations old if it had ever been released), I personally can't see how even providing instructions or links would necessarily violate the rules of this site. I do sort of agree with Zeldafan79, that this does not seem meaningfully different from the numerous articles about emulation of older systems that commonly grace the front page of this site.

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Tasuki

@Northwind But he's asking about modding a Genesis Mini or PS Classic which technically are current gen consoles. At least that's the way I interpretated it.

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Eel

@Northwind the rules also say:

We ask that you do not link to any resources for illegal copyrighted content such as where to download ROMs and we reserve the right to lock, edit or delete any threads or comments we feel stray too far into an illegal or legal grey area.

As for the articles, I can't control what they post on the main site. We only moderate the users, not the writers.

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Northwind

@Tasuki @Eel: Ok, so I'm seeing two things here.

Tatsuki seems to be focused on the idea that the 'host console' is the issue, not the ROM itself. I think it's debatable whether the retro minis can be classified as 'current gen'; the PS Classic is definitely not 'current gen', since PS has moved to a new gen since it was released. The Genesis classic is a greyer area, since it's the first piece of hardware Sega has released in decades and they're unlikely to release another any time soon. Additionally, the rule doesn't specify that it's referring to current gen consoles (though that's arguably implied by the concept of emulation) - but from a software-development viewpoint, it's also debatable whether the retro minis are 'consoles' at all, and thus whether they fit into the structure of console generations. Basically, I feel one must use a pretty unintuitive definition of at least the term 'generation' - and possibly also the term 'console' - to argue that those are current-gen. (ELEPHANT TEST: Can anyone give a definition of 'current gen', or of 'console', that includes everything that is current gen or is a console but excludes everything that is not? )

Eel seems to be focused on the ROM itself, which is closer to my intuition on the topic as well. Additionally, Eel's quote seems to be getting pretty close to the actual heart of the issue: not wanting to be associated with illegal behaviour. That's a reasonable concern. (Disclaimer here: I ANAL.) However, modding a console is - in and of itself - almost never an illegal behaviour (outside of Japan, at least). Some of the things that one can do with a modded console are illegal, yes, and in many jurisdictions it's illegal to distribute or advertise tools which can be used for illegal activities even if those are not the only activities those tools can be used for - but regarding the topic at hand, the mods under discussion are intended to facilitate nothing that (for example) the Polymega does not, so if it's ok to discuss the Polymega then this sort of has to be. (SEE: https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2021/02/hardware_review_des...) Add to that the fact that the ROM under discussion is one that literally nobody could pay for in any form even if they wanted to - and the fact that nobody is asking where to get the ROM (only about way to use it) - and to me this seems to be one of the least-grey areas one could ever encounter w/r/t this broad topic; the legality seems quite clear.

To be clear, my intention here is not to argue with the mods, so I do hope I'm not coming off as argumentative or rude. I understand that mods are just forum members who are trusted, and have no real say in the rules themselves. (I also understand that it's often a thankless job, lol - and fwiw the mods here almost always do a great job!) I just feel like this one instance seems to fall pretty clearly within the bounds of what's allowed, since one really seems to need to stretch to claim that it's either 'current gen' or a 'legal grey area'. If this is indeed deemed to not be ok, then of course I'll defer to the mods' decision; in that case, however, I would humbly ask for some clarification from the actual staff of the site regarding what is and is not allowed and how each rule is intended to be interpreted, for the benefit of everyone here.

(That screed aside, @Zeldafan79, if anyone does have any suggestions for you, maybe have them DM you on some other site or app, or email, or something like that? I think your points are valid, but I also support not giving the mods a headache. The ambiguity of the rules isn't their fault, after all.)

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Tasuki

@Northwind My thoughts on the Mini consoles are they are current gen. They came out last year and a couple of years ago yes they play older games but the consoles themselves are current gen. Yes they are based off older consoles but they came out during this console gen. But again that's my interpretation.

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@Tasuki, just out of curiosity, how do you define/interpret what is 'current gen'? What are the criteria?

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Eel

That’s kinda getting off topic now. Let’s continue that in the chitchat thread instead.

As I’ve already said, the topic is fine as long no download links or detailed tutorials on how to get the game running are shared.

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Zeldafan79

Yeah i wasn't expecting rom links or anything like that. Just curious if the demo would work on the mini consoles. I know some Dreamcast games will run near perfect on the ps classic. Maybe if no one else has already attempted it i might test it later on mine and report back.

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Azuris

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They count to the old gen and actually add to their overall sales.

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Zeldafan79

Okay update for anyone interested. Yes it does run on the PS classic and pretty well too. It's a little laggy sometimes but the game wasn't finished anyway so no biggie. I gotta say if i had played this in some alternate timeline where it actually released i would have been loving it! It's better looking than the N64 games and the music is really good too! The one track that plays in the opening stage is very nice! It kinda sounds like something out of the childs play movies. Real shame this didn't get released.

So yeah if you got a modded ps classic that's one option for playing it.

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Tasuki

@Northwind To me current gen is anything that came out the last 5 years. It doesn't matter what games it plays. Take for example the Super NT or some of the other clone consoles. Yes they play retro games but they didn't come out 30 years ago they came out now current gen. Same with the Mini systems yes, they play older games but they came out within the past five years. Just like I wouldn't consider Atari Flashback as a retro console. Yeah it plays games from 30 years ago but it's only been out for 5 years or so.

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KingMike

I would say a Mini console is a little different since you can't buy more games for it.
I personally think the built-in game selection is kind of the point of playing a Mini console instead of just using an emulator, so I wouldn't mod it.

But since if you have those Mini consoles, you already paid as much as you ever will be able to pay to the console maker, so if you do it for your own use (not ebay scalpers who buy and mod the entire stock for profit), it doesn't really matter.

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