@ThanosReXXX LOL ok cool man, congrats on getting those times right! Thanks!
@Anti-Matter If you truly are interested, I would recommend just getting game pass and buying the DLC seperate as opposed to buying the ultimate edition as it will end up being cheaper. To be honest you have been pretty vocal about your disdain for racing games with realistic cars and that is 90% of what Forza Horizon is. The Lego DLC would only be a small part.
EDIT: Speaking of FH4, the Achievements for the expansion are out if anyone is into that like me!
@Anti-Matter I have all the DLC and I haven't actually even finished the base game yet, so I haven't looked at what it is! But yeah, as Dark said, Ultimate comes with the DLC, the car packs, Lego, everything. Standard is just the base Horizon game set in the UK, without the DLC and additional cars etc. If you're only interested in the Lego pack though, I don't know if it's cheaper to buy Ultimate (on a sale?) or buy just the base game and the Lego DLC. Either way you'll need the Lego DLC. You may well enjoy the base game too, though, if you get it. You're not into realism specifically, and I'm not a car guy, but the open world, ride anywhere racing is pretty fun in Horizon and is certainly family friendly - it's just race cars
Lego looks great. Better than Hot Wheels. The Hot wheels was fun, but the focus on loops and ramps didn't really take advantage of the controls of the game. Lego seems like you can really have fun making use of the "everything is made of breakable bricks" mechanic as you inevitably run into stuff
@redd214 Don't think the expansions are unlocked immediately either. Probably have to qualify for the Horizon Roster to get the expansions to appear on map.
@PikPi Bethesda is the WORST offender of irrelevant trailers. Their trailers all feature these weird live-action cuts completely outside anything related to the game at all. They had a slick live-action trailer for what amounted to a card game for phones..... They had this epic beatdown of a dragon (rendered) for TES:O that has nothing to do with how the game actually looks or plays (at all.) They had a slick Cdr. Keen animation intro for what amounts to an Ice Climbers-esque phone game that takes a dump all over Cdr. Keen. They only game they properly showed was Doom: Eternal. Todd Howard came out with a "Sorry, not sorry" FO76 statement, before patting himself on the back and finally showing a clip that, they, indeed, have now actually made a game with the FO76 product. So the past year has just been a lengthy pre-order, beta, and an F-U discount. The show overall was fun, as long as you don't stop to think about what you just watched.
@Grumblevolcano Ohh, good point, this is true. You do have to play some of the main game which acts as kind of "tutorial time" before expansions get unlocked, @Anti-Matter.
@NEStalgia
Hmm....
After hearing some feedbacks here, i will think again if someday i buy Xbox One games, i know what games i should pick.
Right now, i just gathering some informations and will reconsider some suitable Xbox One games if i have a bit interest to start Xbox gaming. 🤔
Thanks for the information. 😀
@Grumblevolcano Wonder what the heck was originally in that box that says "redacted"...
@redd214 Sarcasm, huh? Alrighty then... I think you completely misread my intent, but whatever.
Don't need any pat on the back for "getting the times right". Just like you always do, I just wanted to add some useful info for people that might not be interested in Forza, but would like to see what other stuff Microsoft would show later in the day.
@Anti-Matter And of course, you'd also be able to play Sims 4 and all the interesting new expansions for that...
@NEStalgia Ah... there's our old, nagging NEStalgia again...
I actually thought the Bethesda presentation was fine, and the live action bits were actually a nice addition. I also always liked it, when Nintendo used to do that, with the Robot Chicken inspired bits. But tastes vary, I suppose...
'The console wars are like boobs: Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'
I liked the show, the Lego expansion looks fun and Cyberpunk 2077 looks gorgeous and tons of games coming to Game Pass which is already great value. It was obvious to me that they wouldn't give many details about Xbox 2 and how can people expect them to "show" a console that they are still building? LOL It will probably look similar to S and X, who cares. They said more than I expected about Scarlett/Anaconda though like release date and technology it will be based on: SSD, custom Zen 2 and Navi processor, ray tracing support.
Oh, Elite controller series 2. That's probably the best gaming piece of hardware you could possibly buy and will get it if my Elite ever dies.
Halo Infinite will launch on S, X and Scarlett but of course I want to play it on Scarlett and not on Xbox One. The difference is not minimal like when playing Breath of the Wild on Wii U or on Switch. LOL
Next year we will see a lot of new games from the new studios and hopefully Fable and Banjo.
@ThanosReXXX It's completely different from the Robot Chicken stuff - that was entertainment added to the presentation itself, outside the scope of games. The Bethesda stuff is what they presented as the games. Their trailers for the bulk of games in their presentations weren't actual trailers for the games, but basically the same thing as those 90s TV commericals for SNES games featuring live action that ultimately looked nothing at all resembling what the game was.
Where Robot Chicken stuff was just fun fluff added to make the presentation of actual game trailers fun, Bethesda skipped actual game trailers and just had fluff vaguely imitating the games instead. The worst cases were the card game and Cdr. Keen game where what they finally showed on screen was a very primitive game, that had nothing to do with the exciting things they showed. The next worse case was TES:O with the cinematic dragon scene. Which makes it look like they're selling an action game with super next gen graphics. When in reality, they're selling a TES:O expansion that looks and plays nothing like that at all. Imagine a Pokemon trailer consisting of actual kids in a forest throwing balls at some giant rhino thing, but what you got was X&Y. In 1994 that was "cool" but today it's just "false advertising."
@BlueOcean Oh yeah, I almost forgot the Elite 2 announcement! I was waiting all Fall for that, if you remember, finally just caved and bought another Elite....and then they drop the 2 now. Grr. It looks slick though. Hopefully it fixes the build issues of Elite 1. Sad they caved to the demands for a built in lithium battery making it disposable though....I kind of liked the replaceable batteries of the normal and Elite controllers. The last controller with normal rechargeable batteries is going disposable after all. The tensionable stick rumors were true after all!
And yeah, I meant to comment on Game Pass getting cool. I have 2yrs left, and was going to drop it after that because I don't use it much, I buy most things I like that are on it...but so many games they showed being playable with it is pretty appealing....I'd try out a number of them that I otherwise wouldn't buy.
@NEStalgia I would have preferred AA batteries too but I assume that the rechargeable battery is replaceable. The controller looks awesome, too bad you already got a regular Elite but at least if ours break eventually there is a better version available. I also play games on Game Pass that I would have not got otherwise.
By the way if you guys have Gold or Game Pass you can upgrade to Ultimate for £1 and if you have both Gold and Game Pass you get extra months.
@DarthNocturnal Fix that and it's not Elite anymore. Seriously, I think the Elite is great value. The other controllers are relatively expensive compared to it (Xbox One, PS4 and Switch).
@BlueOcean It would be a nice perk if it was just a Play & Charge pack that's replaceable, but I would nearly guarantee you that it's your standard fare sealed design controller you'd have to bust the casing open to even attempt pulling the battery (like Joyon, Pro controller, DS4.) Adding a door and removability adds to production cost, so it's unlikely and "non-standard" today. I hated that people were demanding they make a "modern" controller with a built in battery when they already had a nice replaceable battery system going. Looks like they went for it.
@DarthNocturnal Still cheaper than the 3rd party high end controllers Sony licensed (and half of those don't work that well....) Vantage is like $200+ for wireless.
@NEStalgia I wouldn't like if the battery was not easily replaceable, I can see it as a possibility but at the same time the backlash would be considerable. I hope that Microsoft clarifies.
"Stay in the game for longer with up to 40 hours of rechargeable battery life and refined components that are built to last. Charge the controller either inside or outside the carrying case with the included USB-C cable and charging dock".
@DarthNocturnal You can buy several games for that price but you can play tons of games with it. It's not $200+ like you said, it's £159.99 / €179.99 / $179.99. If it was $60 like the other controller that you mentioned it would be cheap plastic. It's not just about the extra buttons or profiles but the quality of the controller, the quality of the customisation and how it feels in your hands. Have you played with the Elite controller? Not even Microsoft expected it to be as successful as it is.
I too thought it was ridiculous to spend a couple hundred bucks on a controller. Then I sprung for the Astro C40. Granted it's a ps4 controller but same principle as the Elite. I have found it to be well worth the price. Obviously it's a niche/luxury buy but wow it makes a difference. Going back to a regular one is almost impossible.
@DarthNocturnal I didn't remember that you are Canadian but if you just write "$200+" then everyone (on this British website) except the ones that don't forget where are you from are going to assume you mean US dollars which have a higher value. And yes, you would be paying CAD $238.75. I checked for you. Oh and you don't have official price yet:
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