@Grumblevolcano@ThanosReXXX I feel Xbox is going to go down that path — half step upgrades every 3 years instead of one major one every 6 years. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this how PC works — small incremental upgrades that over the years result in a much more improved product that nevertheless has full backwards compatibility for games released for PCs years prior? I could see it working out fine.
@shadow-wolf Well, while it's true that the PC market in and of itself offers (incremental) updates/upgrades to hardware in a certain time frame, it's not entirely comparable to console gaming, also because of the disparity in PC systems: there's not just low end, mid grade, and high end PC's, there's of course also people building their own custom systems, or companies/stores doing that for them.
That could never work in the console industry, unless they simplify it, but such a system is already in place, with the current entry model S, and the premium model X.
And from all we've heard so far, the same is going to happen with the next iterations. I simply see that already revealed disc drive-less One S as nothing more than a little added flavor in the same recipe for digital-only gamers, but I don't think they're going to go down a road where they, like the PC market, are going to offer a choice of three models every time.
@shadow-wolf Something like that, PC gamers have to buy new GPUs and CPUs every few years. Xbox would be the same but relatively cheaper and hassle-free, with Microsoft earning money with the store and subscriptions. Backwards/forwards compatibility is the best feature of Xbox in my opinion especially considering that it is free and cross-buy (now extended to Windows 10).
Personally just want to get some info on xCloud and some next gen news. Not expecting a lot of surprises from Ms this year. Think we pretty much know what big games their going to show off and have some 3rd parties on stage (Gearbox/Division etc.) Don't think itll be a classic but still a solid showing overall
Surprised they have the SAD edition at $250 when the normal S can be found for that or cheaper pretty regularly. Really thought $200 would be the max SRP. Doesn't seem like much of a deal at that price point imo.
@redd214 It feels like it's priced for sale pricing. I.E. "The E3 mega-sale, save up to 30% on a new XBox One (SAD Edition) with purchase of 2 games!" type things. Set MSRP unreasonably so it looks like a great value when it's frequently on sale.
@Grumblevolcano Well I've felt that was their strategy all along based on prior Phil comments, but I got eaten up alive in this thread for sticking with that.
@NEStalgia I understand "price conditioning" very well but this seems a bit bananas to me. I mean the SRP for the S and SAD are only apart $50, seems weird.
Was fully expecting to go balls to the wall with the pricing. Imagine $150 take a loss on HW but make up for it in subs, get people in and hooked on gamepass and prime them for xbox 2.
Ah well, at least their trying something new. We all know it'll be one sale soon enough but in my eyes this offers little value at their initial price, and that's coming from someone who is all digital and would be the target market potentially.
@redd214 I wonder if part of it is that not only is it positioned to go on sale, but that they'll put the S on sale less, or for less discounts than before, and move all the discounting the to the new budget entry. But yeah, it would have been insane to see the numbers change if they made it a loss leader and just started stealing Sony market share.
@ThanosReXXX Hey at least someone in this thread shared my thinking
Welp time for me to get a bone X then. Geez at this rate Next Console Release I'll only need to track the fighting games.
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