Id like to appeal to internet group think for a moment. For FH4 add ons, as a game pass subscriber, would you guys buy ultimate now, buy the add ons pack as dlc for gp, or do neither and wait for deep discounts at a future date?
You get all the cars and gameplay bonus rewards with the Ultimate Edition so it makes sense to activate it as soon as possible. Plus, the expansions are included and the first one is out this year.
Because you are a Game Pass subscriber, it makes more sense to buy the Ultimate Add-ons Bundle only, the normal edition of the game is included in Game Pass. This way you get the Ultimate Edition by buying only the DLC bundle (which is 10% off for Game Pass subscribers). If you really want to own the base game you can do it in the future when it's cheaper. This is what I did.
Forza Ultimate Add-ons Bundle will cost you $45, £36 in UK and €45 in EU. With this and Game Pass you have absolutely everything. It's worth reminding that Forza Horizon 3 Ultimate Edition did not include the two expansions, so Forza Horizon 4 is far more generous.
@BrainOfGrimlock See my answer above about Forza Horizon 4. There is an article and video on Eurogamer/Digital Foundry about the first Red Dead Redemption, if you want to check them out. I was interested in RDR2 before I heard about boring sections and awkward controls so I won't pay a big amount without trying it first. A demo would sell me the game or not, but I guess that Rockstar doesn't care about the undecided buyers. I have many other games anyway. I haven never played Hitman but I got Blood Money with Games with Gold so that is my opportunity to try the series. Is it good?
@Ryu_Niiyama Yeah, I mean the original promise of XBox was bringing "Windows to the living room space" (stated goal) so it shouldn't be surprising that today that's literally what it is As a former PC gamer that couldn't stand the cost and time consumption of PC gaming any longer, a "pre-done, cheap, gaming PC as a VCR" is what I dreamed the XBox would become back in 2001 even though OG XB didn't really get there, and as a PC gamer at the time I resented (coming right off KotR) that Mass Effect, Halo, and Jade Empire were console exclusives. It was a nice day when they came to PC. The new version feels like Microsoft's rendition of Valve's doomed Steambox, except you're locked to the MS store instead of locked to Steam. It feels like I never left PC, except I have an extra 10 hours a week not spent cursing pieces of fiberglass and parsing boot logs!
@BrainOfGrimlock The discounts are great (a lot of prices match or beat prior sales.) Yeah the new games are "only" 20% off, but hey, Amazon doesn't offer that anymore and it's digital.... Not the best deal that will ever be for them, but not bad for 8-week or less old games.
Deus Ex: MD for like $5 is both sad and funny. I fear we'll never ever get digital Human Revolution Director's Cut Man that OG launch is horribly ugly.....the game is amazing but it's one of the few games the visuals are bad enough I don't want to sit through it again. The remaster eased up on the "everything is shades of gold" filter, and made textures and lighting that looked at least better than Halo 1 original. Square....because of course.
RDR1 on the X looks great. I mean it doesn't look like RDR2, or anywhere close, but if you boot RDR1 before you boot RDR2 (I did it the day before 2 released) it looks almost like a current gen game. The assets are notably low poly comparatively of course, but the picture looks great overall. I was impressed with how good it looked on X. Shame they can't fix the meme-ready running animation too.
Hitman: Oh given their own releases I think it's safe to say Warner is very involved with the version rubbish. I still can't figure out what version is what of Shadow of War....and I own one of them. Though only Squeenix manages to be more confusing (seriously, until Royal (which still doesn't include everything) figuring out FFXV needed a flow chart on the order of Smash conspiracy theorists just to add to cart.)
I have a weirder gaming addiction - I buy the games day 1, play them for an hour or two, then go back to old ones I won't keep doing that, I've just been enjoying it with this years killer wave of games. Fallout 76 kind of killed the party there... Then again, I waited like 8 years for FFX-2 and I still missed the sale by 3 days. For games like Horizon, Game Pass is fun: Try it free day one, then wait for a sale.
FFX: I think praise for FFX is kind of like Praise for Ocarina. It's only the best Zelda if it's the one you started with. Everyone else knew ALttP was the best all along, but there's always more people who joined later than earlier, so the Ocarina people drown out the ALttP people. Similarly I think a lot of people started with a PS2 and FFX so it's "the best" and was visually much more spectacular. Prior to that it was VII that was all the rage, because a big pool of people joined in with PSX and VII. The lifers already knew IV and VI were the ones to beat, and the dedicated fans know IX is the masterpiece that shall never be topped.. X isn't bad by any stretch, it's arguably the last "true" FF.....but I'd argue IX was, which was kind of the point of IX, a grand sendoff for the old ways before the PS2 hardware and a direction shift. X was the last of the more traditional experiences, but it was the first of the new direction ,and you can see its influence in XIII and XV. It was linear, it had Blitzball, it deamphasized towns (but didn't eliminate them like XIII), and the roles of summons were...odd. It gets better mid-way. I like it more than I did before, but IMO the PSX and SNES FF games were the "real" FF games, and BD/Octo is mostly what's carrying that torch. And WoFF. it may be a Pokemon clone but it seriously has that IV-IX feel. The dungeon music....it's just "right."
XC2 waits for no one. Play XC2. Play Torna. Fantastic games, definitely put them first. (Unless you hate the Xeno formula....it's still the Xeno formula.) Plus Torna's the better design from Nomora
@BlueOcean BTW, FFXIII-Lightening Returns really impresses me so far. It's very different from the first two, and feels a lot more coherent. Snow somehow got cool! And Hope....ok he's still a little dweeb but I don't want to murder him anymore! The player has agency....the player can move around. There are ladders. You can explore (haven't found treasures yet), talking to NPCs requires pressing A! Not just triggering cutscenes! Combat is extremely different. It's a kind of real-time...RTB instead of ATB. You get two gauges that charge, and two attack stances. You still try to stagger and attack but a real time button mapped set of attacks/blocks/perfect-blocks (almost MH meets Type-0? Why not, Gran Pulse always wanted to be MH.) makes it unique, dynamic, fun, not really a turn based RPG....maybe closer if anything to latter Dragon Age games. But different. XIII is enjoyable, after the fact, as a cool experience, if deeply flawed game. XIII-2 seems to fix a lot of problems and turn XIII into a "it's mostly like FF now more or less", XIII-LR is just a plain cool game, that's different from everything else. I'm ok with XIII and XIII-2 being a prologue for the very cool LR.
I just discovered a cool forum feature. Adding a plus at the start, I believe, seems to indent a paragraph and make it a bulleted list!
RDR2: I'll get back to it. Someday. Nier, Starlink, MHGU/World kind of pulled me in in the mean-time along with FF. And Smash and Pokemon soon....wow.
Hitman: Yeah they did that with Splinter Cell: Conviction, too. All the stealth games were going action in the mid to late 7th gen. It was annoying. They righted both ships in the 8th (but sadly Splinter Cell still bombed.)
It's fun that we have another text waller here to annoy Blue & Redd This thread is somehow the gathering of text wallers. It must be something about XBox...which is weird considering last gen XBox owners seemed incapable of expressions longer than "dooood"
@ThanosReXXX Yeah, Ultimate Edition is buy to own, but it's "only" 20% off.... I'm sure it will go down more at some point. Just not sure if it's before the expacks come out or not. The trailer hyped me for pack1
Also, you really still need business cards listing you as an "S&M Professional"
@ThanosReXXX Yeah I ended up buying it before falling asleep. And its actually sold out now. There's still some bundles for that price but some are completely gone, including the one I bought.
Additionally, outside Amazon, I bought one month of Gold since they were selling it for around 50 cents, and used that to buy Lego Jurassic World and Final Fantasy XV Royal Edition on sale.
I think that's enough spending for the weekend... I already feel a bit woozy thinking about it.
Anyway, so I'm officially part of the xbox family now. And it also has the honor of being the first home console I actually buy for myself, with my own money.
@Yosheel Well, with that month of Gold, you can still also grab the freebies that are up, unless these titles don't interest you. Also be sure to check out the Marketplace on the console, and enter "free" or "demo" in the search bar. You'll be surprised how much stuff is available.
A large part of the free stuff has paid in-game content, but it doesn't disturb or hamper the gameplay if you stick to the free stuff only. Just takes longer to grind your character up to respectable levels, in most cases...
And there's quite a few demos on there as well, which is always nice to have a good "try before you buy" experience. Anyways, welcome to the club for real, and have fun with it.
P.S.
And keep an eye on cdkeys.com for those cheap 1 year Live Gold subscriptions. You may never know if they are going to be dropping those prices for Black Friday, or around Christmas, so always worth it to keep tabs on it every 2 - 3 weeks or so.
'The console wars are like boobs: Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'
@Yosheel Well, better share all that free game and demo stuff with your brother too, then.
And put this in your browser's favorites, so you can check out every month if it has something you might like. https://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/games-with-gold
If you can't buy/select games in that region, the page will automatically give you a pop-up asking you to change the region, so just use that link and see if it works, or change it to your own region.
And no, it's not automatic, but once you've got the Xbox One installed, scroll down on the home page, and you'll find Games with Gold there. Or you can simply sign up/sign in on that link I just gave you, and claim the free games from your internet browser.
I don't know if you and/or your brother have any credit cards, but if not, you can use PayPal. The free games also still need to be registered, and Microsoft uses either credit card or PayPal for that.
@NEStalgia Please stop using acronyms for everything! BD? Blu-ray Disc? Blue Dragon? And WoFF is... World of Final Fantasy, OK... RTB is real-time what? ATB? The DJ?
Hey, shouldn't you beat FFXIII before playing XXIII-2 AND Lightning Returns? Or are you talking about when you played them back in the day? Hum...
I just discovered a cool forum feature. Adding a plus at the start, I believe, seems to indent a paragraph and make it a bulleted list!
This is almost mandatory for you but I will use it too. What do you guys think about Deus Ex: Mankind Divided? I haven't played any but I have heard mixed opinions about the series. I don't ask about Human Revolution because you say that the Director's Cut is the good version and it's not backwards compatible and I don't have a 360 (or a PS3) anyway.
I also consider the Black Friday sale super good, the only games that are not hugely discounted are new games but FFXIII was a very nice surprise. On top of that they restored the uncompressed FMV and enhanced the games for X. Just wow. I need to beat the Kingdom Hearts already.
For once Resident Evil games are not included in a sale! I have them all, mind you. I was expecting to see Street Fighter 30th Anniversary Collection but it's resisting.
@Yosheel I was as excited when I bought the Xbox One X as I was when my parents gave me the N64, no joke.
@Yosheel Kinda weird though, that it is Xbox One X-enhanced, but not Xbox One S-enhanced.
Well, the performance is probably better, but other than that, I didn't see much difference, and I've still got my Xbox 360 hooked up to my TV, so I can easily compare back and forth.
'The console wars are like boobs: Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'
@BlueOcean The acronym using.
I think the same can be said for several of us. We've all had our discussions/misunderstandings before, but now, we're all good.
@BlueOcean It will seem silly, but I got the Minecraft Holiday bundle... Partly because minecraft dlc is universal, so I can use the extra content on the switch, as well as the new xbox. The included minecoins will probably pay for another year of my online realm.
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