@ReaderRagfish Yeah, well... like I said: they aren't the cheapest, but they are pretty damn good, and their guarantee and returns service is second to none. And buying hardware off of eBay is never a good idea, UNLESS it is from a reputable seller, that also has an actual (web) shop.
Shame about the digital version of MvC2 being delisted. Didn't know that. Then that must also have been the reason for True Achievements not having it on their list. Well, (besides buying an OG Xbox) that leaves you with only one option, then: JTagging your Xbox 360, aka softmodding it.
If you're up for those kinds of shenanigans, visit the Digiex forum at digiex.net
'The console wars are like boobs: Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'
@Anti-Matter There was never a "slim" OG X-BOX. There were several limited edition "clear" ones in various colors of translucent, but they were all extremely limited edition. The first two were for staffers and for employees at partner hardware companies. There was a smoke colored Japan launch one, only 50,000 were made. Then there were a few super limited translucent ones with only a few thousand made. Anything but a big black box for the OG machine would be pretty rare and probably expensive.
@ReaderRagfish Hm, and how about the guarantee on them? Are they truly refurbished, or just cleaned on the outside and then sold? I know plenty of retro shops in my area, that only do the bare minimum, which is checking if the consoles work, if they actually run games, and then dust them off a bit to make them presentable.
Refurbishing is far superior to that, often times also meaning disc drives and hard drives are replaced/repaired, and cleaning isn't restricted to wiping the dust off of the outside casing...
I'd choose quality over cheaper any time, but ultimately, it's not my money, so make the choice that suits you best. As long as you don't regret it in the long run...
On a side note: if you're a handy fella, you could of course also do the refurbishing yourself. There's plenty of YouTube tutorials about that as well.
'The console wars are like boobs: Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'
@NEStalgia Depends on your definition of expensive. Lukie games used to have some of these special editions, and several of them didn't cost more than $150, the more expensive ones being the VERY rare editions, that they were selling for prices between $224.25 - $295.95. On average, I'd say those are actually pretty reasonable prices for limited or special editions of OG Xbox consoles, seeing as eBay prices for those often amount to 5 to 10 times as much as that.
@NEStalgia Well, personally, I've never been that interested in limited edition consoles, or handhelds, and if I'd buy a retro console, I'd always want an original version anyway. I wouldn't mind getting my hands on one of those Halo editions, though. Would probably be the only exception for me, ever. Unless a highly interesting and friendly-priced bundle comes along for any of the upcoming consoles...
@ReaderRagfish They won't resurface hard drives, almost no refurbishing company does that, at least not where it concerns game consoles, but they do replace hard drives and/or disc drives, either with completely new ones, or with drives coming from consoles in a far better condition than the one being refurbished.
'The console wars are like boobs: Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'
@ThanosReXXX Yeah I also generally prefer the "normal" model...it's the one you see everywhere and thus the one you want when you don't have it. The exceptions to me have been the Scorpio Edition.....the black-to-gray gradient is just really slick looking, and the KH3 PS4 Pro which was also extremely tasteful and i have a soft spot for that series.
I don't think I've ever done limited editions on any others. Though I got a purple OG 3DS at one point that wasn't truly limited, but they didn't make them long.
@NEStalgia Don't get me wrong, I do find some of these limited editions pretty interesting and/or beautiful, but besides basically always wanting to own the original model, I'm just not interested enough to pay the extra cash for them. And I'm also not much of a "I need x amount of copies of this or that console" kinda guy.
Given that the next consoles will be backwards compatible, it doesn't seem to make sense to buy an Xbox X at this point. It will have been made superfluous in about a year's time.
The PS3 sold 87,4 million, and the Xbox 360 sold 84 million. The delay of this information is caused by the constant changes in if you disclose sales or not. Microsoft should definitely work closer with Nintendo so they can catch up to Sony. It's not good for consumers or the industry when one manufacturer made 4 out of the 5 most sold home consoles.
@Agriculture They were misleading with that. They really outsold XBox starting in the final year when they had bundles with new first party games and MS had moved onto the pending disaster of Kinekt focus to chase Nintendo, and they sold PS3s longer after PS4 came out than MS sold X360s.
It also doesn't factor in the sheer popularity of PS3s as cheap BD players. Even I bought an extra PS3 just to use as a BD player. It was awful, it broke it's disc drive in a year. The prior actual BD player lasted years. And it was never used for games.
X1 was a dog until 1S came out, no question ,but Sony's using out of context numbers to re-frame the question. PS3 was a dog for most of it's life, much like X1.
@NEStalgia Exactly. Some people just LOVE using out of context information, to make their (for this thread especially) completely non-relevant point...
@Agriculture They were misleading with that. They really outsold XBox starting in the final year when they had bundles with new first party games and MS had moved onto the pending disaster of Kinekt focus to chase Nintendo, and they sold PS3s longer after PS4 came out than MS sold X360s.
It also doesn't factor in the sheer popularity of PS3s as cheap BD players. Even I bought an extra PS3 just to use as a BD player. It was awful, it broke it's disc drive in a year. The prior actual BD player lasted years. And it was never used for games.
X1 was a dog until 1S came out, no question ,but Sony's using out of context numbers to re-frame the question. PS3 was a dog for most of it's life, much like X1.
Yes, the reason why Sony is in this position is to a very large degree because of Microsofts screw ups. The only reason the PS3 had a more successful end of it's life cycle than the 360 was because it came standard with a hard drive and blu-ray drive, which made it possible for it to hold modern games and their enormous patches.
Even Microsoft themselves have said that the lack of a HDD on all 360s was a major problem for them, because they couldn't make games that required a hdd.
@Agriculture Certainly. All that said though, PS3 is a bit apples to oranges since it's hardware units sold don't always equate to software buyers, and it had a longer market life than X360. 360 certainly lead the market for much of the generation, and it's a bit snarky of Sony to come out years later and show off how they eclipsed X360's sales in part by simply not discontinuing it as quickly. WiiU could surpass PS4 if it were still made for 50 years and sold for bargain prices on dump tables. PS4...sure, it' curbstomped X1 because MS blew the X1's first several years badly. That's a much fairer fight, though I'd not say Sony won it so much as I'd say MS lost it. But if Sony is smart, they'd be aware of that and not buy the same wrong narrative MS management bought into post-360.
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