Topic: The everything Xbox thread

@BlueOcean you're welcome. Didn't play the first but the 2nd and 3rd were fun. Much different than most of the fps games at that time,

@BlueOcean doesn't say anything about any shirts.

The only visible difference I can tell is that the title banner in the box art is green instead of gold.

@BlueOcean The problem with the no new Forza theory is the games expire after 4 years. Horizon 2 expired this year, Motorsport 6 will expire next year, Horizon 3 will expire in 2020, etc. so there needs to be at least a new Motorsport game in 2021 and new Horizon game in 2022.

@redd214 @BlueOcean The internet developed a way to communicate many thoughts and ideas in any depth with anyone in the world. Meanwhile those who would formulate discussion greater than 255 character quips of banal topics are berated. Perhaps Earth does not need progress. We simply need sharper implements on longer poles, and sturdier implements with which to bludgeon.

@redd214 But will it run Crysi....oh.....nevermind.

@NEStalgia No point in using 8 paragraphs to get your point across when you could do the same in 2 or 3. Also less emojis

@redd214 Ahh the modern quest for expediency and efficiency at the cost of details and completeness. Yet nothing in all those paragraphs was redundant to any other. Each expressed a different set of details thoughts and information. But a conversation with all the specifics omitted to simply state final summaries in as few words as possible for a world interested only in the end result rather than the substance of anything I suppose makes sense. After all it's a world where review text doesn't matter, just the distillation of a final score. Why watch the game when you can check scores online. Who needs to read the book, when the Wikipedia summary will tell you the gist of it? No time for reality, dialog and interaction, why not just string lists of imperatives together. It's efficient, and efficiency is precisely why we are on a forum about video games. The meaning of life, the universe, and everything is 42. It's all so clear now.

The emojis, as edited above is it's far too easy for sarcasm on the internet to come across as hostility and somehow on an internet forum everything comes across as an argument, so the abuse of emojs is to prevent such misunderstandings. It saves the requirement of infinite more text walls to calm tensions down after misinterpretation.

@NEStalgia great talk, thanks!

NBA 2K19 is $20 off today, all platforms I guess to coincide with start of the season. Holding out to see BF price myself but figured I'd share.

Fyi: i couldn't start any games while logged in:

" 10/16/2018, 8:07:51 PM

Affected platforms:
Xbox One
Xbox on Windows 10

Affected services:

Using prepaid cards or codes for downloadable items or Xbox Live subscriptions, Downloading items that you have already purchased

Latest update:

Our engineers and developers are actively continuing to work to resolve the issue causing some members to have problems finding previously-purchased content or purchasing new content. Stay tuned, and thanks for your patience.

Second time in 2 weeks. Welcome to PSLive

@DarthNocturnal yup. I've spent the last hour frantically rebooting and unplugging hdds as it told mei needed to log in as the owner of the content to play..... Even thoughi was logged in.

So...... Howzabout that new starfox game huh?

@NEStalgia You don't make long comments so they are more detailed and better convey the intended meaning or at least that's not the results that you are getting but exactly the opposite. Your comments are partly incoherent, repetitive and it's obvious that sometimes, ironically considering their length, change the subject to unrelated matters to make your mistakes less noticeable. You also have a tendency to misunderstand the purpose of other comments because you can't abandon your own perspective and bias against Microsoft.

@DarthNocturnal Can you believe that I didn't download the demo because I didn't need to see if the game was good? Would it work now?

@ThanosReXXX I only had Nintendo consoles until Xbox One. Yes, I was officially a Nintendo fanboy.

@BlueOcean While I won't deny that in a forum setting I'll write in a "stream of consciousness" as it's supposed to be a conversational tone, your accusation of "changing the subject to make mistakes less noticeable" is absurd and unfounded. And it's beyond ironic that you accuse me of misunderstanding other comments when you have done that to me for the longest time, and I've told you numerous times that you seem to always misunderstand me yet you not only continue to do so, and not only do I continue to humor you and try to make light of it and take it into a jovial direction, with as much humor and light hearted banter as I can, accented by as many smileys as possible to make clear my intent and ensure there is absolutely no possible confusion about the nature or intention of my statements, but then you accuse me of being the one to do so.

And case in point I do not have a bias against Microsoft, or XBox, and your perpetual insistence that I'm some sort of Playstation specific fan, even when I keep reiterating that I'm a fan of all the consoles and have owned multiple generations of all consoles, when you yourself have not, is beyond the point of hypocracy.

I'll be blunt. You've been increasingly and persistently hostile in how you come across. It's not a tone of friendly conversational disagreement but one of genuine dislike. Don't like me? Hit ignore, let me know and I'll do the same, and be done with it. I've had several nice conversations with you about controller ergonomics and recently Assassin's Creed, so I'd hate for that to be the end of it for certain, however the majority of other conversations I've had with you you've come across as hostile from beginning to end, and no matter how I try to ignore it and change the tone of the conversation you double down on using that as fodder to poke and prod. Only two other people on this forum have managed to be quite so frustrating, and one was a drive-by comment thread troll. I thus far have no one ignored. I have my bouts with thanos but all conversations with him come across in good humor and with points of agreement and disagreement. At no point does he come across as hostile, argumentative, or ill intended, as conversations with you both recently here and not long ago in the Final Fantasy conversation tend to. Nearly any post with you feels like a quest to find an argument rather than discourse. Yes, thanos and I tend to misunderstand each other from time to time, but you and he are the only people across all of NL that I seem to have that issue with on a regular basis, and with thanos, understanding seems to occur through further dialog, rather than greeted with argumentativeness.

I own four different xboxes from the start of the 360 to the 1X. I was a PC gamer for a decade. I owned a PS2 and a PS3 starting after the launch of the PS3,. I had OG PS4 and 2 Pros. I have two Switches, two WiiU's, 5 3DS's, and a Wii, NES, SNES, and Virtual Boy and OG GameBoy, and an Atari 2600. You don't have a Switch, despise Playstation, and didn't even have a 360. Yet you're accusing me of console/brand bias on a frequent basis. Out of the hundreds of people on this forum you are the only one that I can't seem to have any manner of understanding with. Even Sligeach_Eire managed to have more conversational dialogs with differing ideas. Even GatorBoi, a self-admitted XBox troll did. If you don't like me and wish to share an ignore that's you're perogative and I'll accept that, but you may want to consider that if out of hundreds of people I converse with here, you remain the one that seems to have the least understanding of my meanings, even among the actual trolls, and perhaps it's how you read my meaning that is the primary source of trouble. I'm fine either way, ignores, or trying to be conversational, your call.

@Thanosrexxx apologies for taking the time to deal with the above instead of replying to your post! I'll have to get back to that tomorrow.

@BlueOcean Aha, okay. Well, I've always been a multiple system person myself, seeing as it was pretty clear for me a long time ago already, that you can't get all games on one system, but I can definitely also understand wanting to stick to one system, for personal reasons, although I myself am not really partial to brand loyalty, since the brands themselves don't really do anything to instill that loyalty in me...

@NEStalgia No worries, buddy. Get to it when you have the time. I still haven't responded to some either, simply because I either don't have the time or just don't feel like it at the moment, because it'll cause another text wall or two, and even I don't like to wade through these, sometimes...

It doesn't have to be brand loyalty exclusively. Sticking to a single system is also cheaper, and some people have limited shelf space too.

As for myself, I tend to stick to Nintendo. But I do have a PSVita, and enjoyed my PSP greatly while it lasted.

My brother had a 360, which I didn't play very often, and also a PS3, which neither played very often. The PS3 is still at our house being used as a media device, the 360 moved with him.

@Yosheel That was more of an added point. Maybe I didn't quite word that correctly, but it could have been clear from me saying that I can also understand people sticking to one system for personal reasons...

@DarthNocturnal Yeah, I got that message as well, after having played the FH4 demo, so that certainly was a nice surprise indeed...

@NEStalgia Oh well, you also tend to accuse me of your own deeds and copy my own arguments against me, I had forgotten that. I am not angry and I don't hate you and I don't consider that I have had any problems with you. I don't know you. I just interact and objectively describe what you are doing because if you feel free to do it I feel free to say it and, believe it or not, I stay classy and brief because I want the thread to stay cool.

This generation I don't have a Switch but I have a Wii U which serves me well for now and I have two close friends with a Switch so I can play it if I want to. I also have a PS4. I don't think that I need to justify what I own and what I don't but you are implying that I only have an Xbox One and not only that but compare me to the worst trolls you can think of and then say that I am worse. Nice. But you know what? I don't care. All these accusations and trickery are typical of a person without arguments. I've never done what you are saying.

@Yosheel This is the first generation that I have consoles from the three companies: 3DS, Wii U, PS4 and Xbox One. I think that it's not necessary to have all these consoles, accessories and games and for me it's normal that people have just one or two and play on others whenever they can. I would gladly sell my PS4 now that I've played the few exclusives I was interested in and because I hate the controller (not the console like @NEStalgia said).

@ThanosReXXX Yes but it's more what Yosheel wrote. I have four consoles this generation. I use the 3DS as a handheld, the Wii U as the Nintendo machine, the Xbox One for as much as possible and PS4 for a few exclusive games I could live without. If I ever had brand loyalty that would be to Nintendo because Switch is the first Nintendo console that I don't own since SNES. So the only brand loyalty I've ever had has been interrupted. I am not an Xbox troll like @NEStalgia suggests but a recent and satisfied costumer, but I think that it's sad that the only Xbox thread that we have since PureXbox was abandoned it's full of negative and false information about what the Xbox division is now so I stand out against it. You might have thought that I had the 360 because I talk about 360 games a lot, but that's precisely because I am playing them now on Xbox One.

@BlueOcean Yeah, that's probably it. I've seen you mention quite a few 360 titles, so that must be where my assumption came from. Well, at least now you get to play them in their ultimate form, because most, if not all backward compatible titles have some sort of graphics or performance-related improvement, which is a nice bonus.

@ThanosReXXX My first Xbox console was the fat Xbox One without Kinect, the Elite bundle with the Elite controller and 1TB hybrid drive. I didn't get Gold in the beginning, I was busy with Rare Replay, which is the game I bought the console for. Then I discovered Halo, Forza Horizon, Fable... and re-discovered Killer Instinct. I sold the fat console and pre-ordered the X which is the best console, and the Elite the best controller, that I've ever had.

All backwards compatible games run better on Xbox One than on 360 at least performance and forced v-sync, except in the beginning when the emulation was not as perfect as it is now, but if they are X-enhanced like Fable, Sonic Generations, etc., they are even better on Xbox One X. And, by default, the X upscales, supersamples, applies better anti-aliasing... I have also noticed that some Xbox One games that are not specifically X-enhanced run much better on Xbox One X. For instance, Watch Dogs, the frame rate is much better and smoother on X so the game is more enjoyable. So yes, I skipped a lot last generation but this generation I am playing remastered and better-performing versions of all that great stuff.