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NEStalgia

@BlueOcean that's definitively not true about performance mode. Draw distance is reduced so pop in is more frequent, lod is reduced, lower res textures are used, and those lighting and reflections are removed. Foliage and ground brush density are reduced. Maybe it's still better that 1s gfx (through the comparisons I've seen keep it very close) .... But there's very mucha downgrade beyond resolution. I only have 1080 displays, the difference is certainly visible.

I am however enjoying performance mode in cockpit and driver view

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Banjo-

@NEStalgia Very slightly lower resolution textures and downgraded light reflections but you are overexaggerating since the beginning and now that I have played in both modes I have confirmed it. Pop in is more evident in FH3 than in FH4 in Performance Mode, I still play both games. Who would I trust, Playground, Digital Foundry and my own eyes or a person that is known for constantly having all kind of uncommon issues with Xbox hardware and software? Hm... No wonder you are the only one seeing all those issues.

https://www.digitalfoundry.net/2018-09-13-forza-horiz4k-forza...

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ThanosReXXX

@Ryu_Niiyama It is virtually impossible to break @NEStalgia, since he simply denies everything, and I am a Mad Titan, so the same goes for me. I just delay time, or erase an era altogether, to get whatever outcome is most favorable for me...

@BlueOcean You're welcome. Funny thing is, that I was actually wondering about the exact same thing, so the article was also an explanation for myself...

'The console wars are like boobs: Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'

ThanosReXXX

@NEStalgia Going up against Digital Foundry's conclusions AND Playground Games themselves?
I'm not entirely sure if I should count that as a new low or a new high, but I'm guessing the former...

'The console wars are like boobs: Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'

Grumblevolcano

@ThanosReXXX I'm going to guess specific TV issues or hasn't activated the 1080p setting in console settings (for some reason default is 720p).

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NEStalgia

@BlueOcean i do trust df. I haven't watched the video yet. Though i also trust what i see for myself in my own display: a 1080p pc monitor meant for graphics work. If absolutely nothing else, what we can conclude is that supersampling has tremendous impact. Though the stills of the low res textures and low density foliage really show this is more than "reduced to 1080p" what you are describing is what I expected to see, and wanted to see, but is not what i actually see. Both modes are cool but performance is simply not "the same settings rendered at 1080." Nobody with eyes (sorry ryu! ) Could conclude that.

Look. At. The. Trees.

In other news they really did something to external hdds on this os update. In instant on mode it just hammers them on for one second every minute or two, permanently. I'm going to have to turn off instant on, or unplug the externals every time i turn it off. Which means no downloads and patches automatically. Grrrrrrrr.i should know better to trusta Microsoft patch.

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NEStalgia

@ThanosReXXX i have the luxury of two consoles, two identical monitors in the house. Through the magic of game sharing, can run fh4 on both at once in the different modes. At 1080p (no 4k displays). It is not the same image. Period. I trust df, usually, but in this case were they testing quality mode at 1080p ss? Or on 4k?

The same woodland location in both modes will have more trees, more ground brush, and denser, more detailed foliage at the same location. While i do trust dfs testing, either that trust is clearly misplaced, or their test setup in this case is not testing the same output scenario.

Df may be great, but i can test myself, and the same scene in both cases..... At 1080 final on both cases, is simply not the same image. There's nothing to argue there. I'm looking at it myself right this very moment.

I'm not even sure how this degenerated into an argument. I made one post praising both modes and the game overall. Then another post citing that i didn't expect to prefer quality mode more but that the visual downgrade was noticible enough that quality, the default, mind you, is the preferable mode, and somehow you two went into witch Hunt mode for a week.

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redd214

Now we're over analyzing the foliage in a racing game lol, we really are splitting hairs here aren't we. Game looks amazing no matter what and more importantly PLAYS great!

redd214

NEStalgia

@redd214 which was my original point until those two started going into attack mode as though i just told them Forza sucks next to gran turismo or something

NEStalgia

FragRed

All I’ll say about Gorza Horizon 4 is that it’s NOTHING like the UK. For starters, the game should begin with the player driving around the council estates of Manchester or just Milton Keynes in some crappy cheap boy racer car with big thumping bass speakers then work their way up to become knighted by the Queen after a race against her around London, ending at Buckingham Palace

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Tasuki

So I started Forza Horizon 4 today (thank you game pass) and having never played a Forza Horizon before I feel a bit overwhelmed. So I hope you guys don't mind the noob questions.

First off the game looks gorgeous. I am playing it on the original Xbox One and it does look great. Controller are good too and I like the options they have to make it accessible to a variety of players.

Now comes my questions. The big one what do I do??? I did two races then some guy talked to me about being a stunt driver and now when I look at my map I see the two races I did and this stuntman thing that says story. Is that all I can view on the map? Is there nothing else of interest or does stuff unlock as I explore? Can I even explore or do I have to go straight to that story mission thing? Also I keep getting a message saying I need X amount of something to go to Autumn. Where do I get these points?

Also do I get more cars?

Apologies for all the noob questions but as I said I feel a bit overwhelmed.

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DarkRula

@Tasuki Things unlock as you do more stuff. At first during Summer it bottlenecks you into doing specific stuff before opening up slightly. As you do things - pretty much anything - you're earning influence which is what progresses you through the tutorial seasons and acts as your experience throughout the entire game. Until you get a house you can't buy any cars, but you'll get to choose another one before that free house comes along.

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NEStalgia

OK, so this hard drive thing is really annoying. I have two xboxes in the house, each with two pairs of identical drives in identical enclosures. It's worked just fine all this time until the update, when both boxes started spinning up the drives every 40-90 seconds non stop (I probably have 1000 power cycles on the hard drives just from the weekend.)

So I googled around and found tons and tons of complaints about this problem from years ago. Apparently it's not a new problem. People said it went away with the dashboard update, but it took months. Apparently they've now reintroduced this problem. Some people (in the past) said they went through disabling auto-updates, disabling "turn off drives when off", shutting down fully, turning off the drives, rebooting, turning it all on, shutting down completely, rebooting, then firing up the drives. After a while of this, box #1 now seems to have calmed down, (so far) and no longer spins up the drives constantly, normal. Box #2, however even after going through that process and rebooting like 6 times (which is a very slow process) at first it didn't even shut the drives off at all. I just left it like that. It was as though it ignored the "turn off drives" setting and was now worse, leaving them permanantly 24/7 on. Apparently during the middle of the night though it went back to turning it off.....but then went back to hammering the drives every minute. So the same process to fix this problem on 2 identical setups seems to have maybe worked on one, and done nothing (more made it even worse) on the other, and it still hammers the drives, still rendering instant-on and/or auto updates useless. Which is frustrating when there's 200 games in need of updating. I'm hoping it will magically "solve" itself with some more rebooting, or that they'll issue another OS update this week to rectify it, which I'm not optimistic about. That's pretty unacceptable for a console...this is the kind of "magic bug" to troubleshoot I left PC because of. Nobody will ever convince me X1 is not just a Win10 Media Center box. (@grumblevolcano didn't I tell you? )

@Tasuki Yeah there's a lot of not just "events" but just "random things to do". The game will guide you to some. The racing series are kind of "campaign mode" but then as you do some it will pop up plenty of exhibitions just for fun. But some it waits for you to explore and find. There's billboards (little A-frame boards) to smash into, viewpoints to stop and look at when you get to them as a "photo op", you'll find things like cliffs you can jump off and go for distance, and speed traps (trying to get the 3-star speeds through them.) etc. It's not just race events but random things in the open world too (once you do a few they'll show up on the map.) It unlocks barn finds a little later where you search in a designated area for a hidden salvage car.

Basically the game has a "leveling" system RPG style with how much Influence you earn. It's structured like you're an up and coming pro amateur elite racer gaining fame and notoriety on social media etc through doing all these "style" things around the world.

NEStalgia

Banjo-

@NEStalgia Oh, just give up and sell your Xbox. I don't know anyone with more issues on their Xbox than you, you are suffering so much, it's not worth it and people are worried about you. You don't deserved this.

As a side effect, the glory of better hardware and software on Xbox will no longer be sabotaged on this thread by you one minute after anything positive has been said about an Xbox console or game.

It's too dangerous for you to keep your Xbox. It might explode any minute! You'll be safer and happier on Push Square and the PS4 fan thread. Just be careful with your PS4, a single private message can "brick" your console and force you to restore to default settings, which means that you'll lose all your save files because Sony doesn't back them up for free. And no, it's not a joke like an exploding Xbox, but a real issue since last week that has not been totally fixed yet. Apart from that and credit card details being stolen nothing to worry on PlayStation Paradise, where nothing wrong ever happens and consoles are silent, beautiful and safe.

You know you need a change.

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Eel

Ok let's tone it down. Be nice you two.

Anyway on Amazon Mexico I'm seeing a "rare replay special edition" being sold. Does anyone know what's special about it?

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Banjo-

More fuel to the Fable 4 rumours. My guess is that Forza Horizon 4 will stay for a while with us, so take your time to enjoy it. If you need more, Forza Horizon 3, 2 and 1 are all available and 3 and 1 are X-enhanced on Xbox One. If you are anything like me you have hundreds of hours ahead on each game.

Because, apparently, Playground is focused on Fable 4 since the racer launched and will be for years to come.

https://www.unilad.co.uk/gaming/fable-4-development-has-start...

I didn't have a 360 (ahem) and I just played Fable recently and I think that it's wonderful, so I get excited with these rumours.

@Yosheel The Battletoads T-shirt bundle?

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redd214

"The most valuable of all talents is that of never using two words when one will do." - Thomas Jefferson, quote just seems fitting.

In other, briefer, news just read Crysis 1, 2, and 3 are coming to BC today. Really enjoyed those games last gen great others can experience them as well!

redd214

Banjo-

redd214 wrote:

"The most valuable of all talents is that of never using two words when one will do." - Thomas Jefferson, quote just seems fitting.

In other, briefer, news just read Crysis 1, 2, and 3 are coming to BC today. Really enjoyed those games last gen great others can experience them as well!

Another one, the good is brief is twice as good. If only eight words are needed, he will use 800 words twice.

I had no idea about Crysis, thanks for posting it. I was always curious about them but my PC was not powerful enough to run them.

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