Topic: The PlayStation Fan Thread

@FragRed seriously... Both hori and razer are shut out of na entirely by Sony while the dubious scuf and nacon get a pass. So weird. Meanwhile razer sells just fine for xbox. While sony refuses to make their own premium controller.

@NEStalgia That sounds pretty fishy to me, like kickback kinda fishy.

@FragRed Sony and kickbacks? Naww, that would neeverr happen!

@NEStalgia Yeah, you're right. This is the company that's "for the players" they would never do a thing like that.... it was likely some piece of overlooked paperwork that got accidentally shredded and all copies disappeared.

Maybe that's the real reason they won't allow cross play. It was nothing to do with whatever their PR team are coming out with this week, or next week, or the week after, it's because that sticky note to the one guy who can press a red button to allow it to happen on all games, was blown away when the office fan got switched on.

Oh, Sony.......just when Nintendo's making themselves look like they don't get this whole new fangled online thing, you prove that's just industry standard.....

@FragRed "For the players (except those dang Canadians and Americans what with their XBoxes and wrong thumbstick placements......they get no choice! (except Nacon because Sony reasons.)")

@Ralizah btw, that reminds me, do you hold your beloved prized most perfect horrid controller ever in that odd "DS claw grip" where your index and middle fingers are on R1/R2-L1/L2? Or do you hold it like a normal human being with pinky/ring/middle wrapping the hand grips and only the index fingers up on the triggers? Doing it the wrong way may be why you happen to like the worst controller I find the DS4 is only bearable if you happen to hold it in that awkward way, while other controllers aren't really holdable if you try to use it that way. I don't use the DS4 that way (and never will) but I suppose people that like that grip may like it better.

Meanwhile the proper controller for the system finally exists....and isn't available in NA because Sony has decided so So I'm down to paying scalper prices for it, loving the kind of iffy Hori, or buying a Brook and an XBox Elite and fudging with the trackpad simulation and firmware updates every time Sony tries to break it

Might be why some get on better with handheld Switch than others, too?

@NEStalgia I've never heard of anyone outside of small children holding a Dualshock 4 the wrong way. There's no reason to have claw grip.

On Xbox style controllers, though, the D-Pad isn't comfortably accessible. It makes no sense to place the analog stick, which protrudes further from the controller closer to the outside.

Also, DS4 triggers > Switch and Xbox triggers.

And there's no confusion about the face buttons with PS, as they're the only ones who use shapes. Xbox's mirrored layout of the buttons, on the other hand, makes it very confusing to locate face buttons quickly if you've ever gotten used to Nintendo's layout.

@NEStalgia What's the problem with that image? I thought it was the date; available from April 9, 2018 to February 10, 2018, but then I remembered you American people have it all backwards Why is GOW3 $100 though?

@Ralizah I do find it quite annoying that X (confirm) is in the bottom of a DS4, but A (confirm) is right on Ninty's systems. I know O used to be confirm on PlayStation, and they switched it at some point, possibly due to the A being in the bottom of the Xbox controller. All confusing stuff. I always keep pressing the wrong buttons when I switch controllers/console.

@NEStalgia aside from the clearly mistaken pricing, whats wrong with the pic?

@MisterPi its a CRPG, its really not that rare a game genre. Try Pillars of Eternity next if you liked the genre.

@NEStalgia As long as they aren't charging you $100 for the game

I don't recall if games like Nier had O as confirm and X as cancel. I think I would've noticed it if they switched it back once more, so I guess most games these days use X for confirm. I'm not sure though.

@Tsurii LOL!

@Octane Sony Store charges me nothing for any game. No, seriously, they refuse to charge me, every time I try to check out I just get an error. It used to work intermittently 8 months ago, now it never works....

It's system wide that X is confirm and O is cancel....outside Japan. But Japanese units it's the other way around. Maybe Asia region in general, actually.

DualShock is my least favorite only because I used them in my life the least. I grew up playing with Nintendo controllers/handhelds of all shapes and sizes and an Xbox 360 controller for PC gaming (although that controller's D-Pad was garbage) so I didn't gravitate to one specific controller. I did own a PS2 though, and the controller was comfortable enough.

I do like how the DualShock has symmetrical sticks so the D-Pad isn't as awkward to use as the Switch, GameCube, and Xbox D-Pads though.

@EvilLucario I personally gravely dislike symmetrical sticks, as the natural position for the hand and weight shifting is with the thumbs upright and not splayed sideways for the sticks. The camera stick isn't hit as often as the walking stick, so the thumb is naturally on the buttons often, where the left rarely gets a break from that splayed position always holding forward. The balance is easier with the upper position. The d-pad is in a worse position but that's used less than the stick outside fighting games an platformers. However, using the Razer controllers with parallel sticks showed me that the stick orientation isn't as important as the DS itself makes it seem. They work fairly naturally on there because of the tension, size, spacing, and most importantly larger grips mitigate the hand position issues. I have a strong preference for asymmetrical, but technically it's almost 50/50 and I can go back and forth between layouts if the ergonomics and feel of the rest of the controller aren't garbage like the DS. DS3 is really garbage though. DS4 is way better, I'll always give it that.

Wow... that's a great news if true !

https://gematsu.com/2018/09/castlevania-requiem-symphony-of-t...

This is a thing too apparently:

@Octane

Wild Arms sold me the entire stuff !

@Cobalt One of the best stuff to happen to gaming in general. Pure perfection.

@Zuljaras Dunno but Wild Arms is special to me. I have a personal story with this game... ^^