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redd214

Lol the nudity and cursing mad up like less than 5% of that entire 50 minute video and it's all people can harp on. I watched it again this morning and it wasn't as bad as some are making it seem to me. I try to avoid cursing in real life but it wasn't overbearing at all in that video imo. Nor was the nudity for me, in fairness it did seem like the lingered on the woman's bare chest a bit longer than necessary. It all made sense in the context of it not like a teenager who's just dropping f bombs just to do it.

redd214

Octane

@NEStalgia To be fair, I prefer they use nudity in a game if necessary, rather than not showing it because some believe it's some kind of taboo. It's all about context. The fact that those naked people were in some self-made body harvest factory in a shady apartment is believable, at least, it would be weirder if they tried to prudishly cover them up for whatever reason. Now that would seem out of place I think.

The point is that (and this is not a stab at anyone in particular) more people expressed concerns about the profanity and nudity, even though they are completely fine with the violence. That's just a bit strange to me. If people don't like profanity and nudity in their game, that's fine, but I'd personally put violence on a whole other level. But I've yet to see anyone complain about that

I'm trying to remember how often TW3 showed nudity, and I don't think it was for more than five minutes out of the total 250 hours I've played. To be fair, I have a hard time recalling any particular scene at all that showed any nudity. Even the opening scene was shot from an angle where there was always something blocking the complete view, or they were shown from behind. So I'm not sure where you got the idea that TW3 is using nudity to come across as ''cool'' or ''edgy'', it's just that, in a very few instances, they're not shying away from it.

Octane

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@Octane Most of the time in film and movies that utilize nudity it's not "necessary", and certainly not particularly "mature". Going back to the HBO example, their famed "sexposition" scenes where they advance the inner motives of characters through softcore-almost-hardcore porn scenes isn't "mature", it's cheap ratings. Part of the cringe comes down to, nally peormople don't walk around nude in public, but in a film, show, game, stage, people ares till technically in public (or imaginary characters?)...it's a performance (and yes I know there are stage actors that do nude scenes, and as much as it's "for the arte" in their little artiste brains, let's not pretend the folks making money on the show aren't quite eager to sell "live nudes, XXX" legally, under the pretense of "art!"

There's a point where it's better to convey the scene, and a point where it's just giving the audience what they want to see (so long as the actors/characters are attractive....I wonder how a film with nude scenes about excess in the latter days of the Roman empire, starring most of the ugliest actors you can think of would sell?)

Similarly these games always feature nudity of young, fit, shapely, muscular individuals. Notice the story makes it "necessary" for them, but the story never makes it "necessary" for fat, old, ugly characters? Coincidence, right? Seems to often be characters that many people may linger at looking at visible parts rather than characters that people hide their eyes in horror.

You're right about the acceptance of violence but not nudity and the double standard there. And I lump the gratuitous violence in with it (and have a far higher tolerance for nudity than gratuitous violence...TLOU2 preview was horrifying....and not due to the zombies that were never shown...) But like the violence itself, the nudity seems to be awfully convenient and quite the crowd pleaser....

Nude scene, now, Wario, Trevor ( GTAV), and Tingle. (Queue the Barry White!)

If the games/films had such scenes with ugly, obese characters, I might give you a point on plot necessity. Otherwise, whether it's 5 minutes at the start of TW3, etc...it's fan service either way. We can't be content understanding who Yennifer is watching her cut down an entire army via infernal magic.....no we learn who she is seeing her in lacy black lingerie (after watching her cut down an army.) We of course can't learn who Geralt is through his search and his time at HQ...not until we see him bare chested in a loincloth. Yep, just another typical morning before a pending apocalypse!

I'm not offended by it particularly but I just have to cringe and think "oh, puhlease..." It's there to be edgey. Freeing a character from a cage of imprisonment and humiliation when they're naked, battered, and scarred is "necessary"...lingerie isn't necessary. CSI and Law & Order (are those still on?) does nude out of necessity....CDPR does it for the same reasons HBO does it. Actually, no, HBO does it for the money. CDPR I imagine does it because "cool" things like HBO do it and is an homage to the cinematography styles of the now. I doubt they're pandering for the fan service specifically, unlike the source material.

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Ralizah

I'm really, really enjoying Ratchet and Clank on PS4. Has the series always been this fun?

@NEStalgia I kinda got something similar to that last week, actually. The 8bitdo Wireless Controller Adapter lets me use the DS4/Wiimote/Wii U Pro/Joycon/Switch Pro/8bitdo controllers on Switch and PC. I've mainly tested it on PC, but I hear it makes excellent use of the DS4's gyro controls on Switch so that I can play games like Splatoon and BotW with it. I hear it has issues with the Xbox One controller, but no huge loss there.

In all seriousness, though, it's amazing how soon everyone will be able to play games on their preferred platforms with their preferred controllers, even if those don't necessarily go together by default.

Hopefully someone develops a tool to allow people to easily play PC games with the joycons (right now, it's difficult to get the PC to recognize them as two halves of the same controller).

Oh, and I'd actually consider BG&E2 a prime example of a game that irritates me because it's trying WAY too hard to be edgy. I don''t know what the trailer I watched was, but it wasn't BG&E.

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Dezzy

NEStalgia wrote:

Similarly these games always feature nudity of young, fit, shapely, muscular individuals. Notice the story makes it "necessary" for them, but the story never makes it "necessary" for fat, old, ugly characters? Coincidence, right?

The Witcher 3 had a scene where you're sitting in a sauna with a naked old woman.

It's dangerous to go alone! Stay at home.

Octane

@NEStalgia Artistic freedom

It's probably done for the same reason as why we seemingly never play as an ugly main character. If you have the freedom to do whatever you want, people tend to pick the things I like/don't mind looking at. Either way, it's not something that really bothers me. As long as half the people aren't walking around naked on the streets for no apparent reason, I'm fine with it!

@Dezzy @NEStalgia Don't forget the Grave Hags

Octane

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@Ralizah Like I told Octane a while back, R&C is the only game in the past 6 years or so I've actually replayed...and replayed it numerous times. It's absolutely fantastic!

Argh, problems with the X1 controller? Awful! The only good one. Actually no, Wii Pro and Switch Pro controllers are both excellent. PS4 is so so so so so so so so so bad though. I love my Raiju (symmetric sticks, but somehow they don't bother me with the Raiju), but it's wired only. I refuse to buy a Scuf for $200 for the Vantage with their shoddy track record and 90 day warranty. I bought a Hori Onyx for $80....it feels...wrong....and weird...but it's actually not bad. Feels light and cheap though....but I realized rumble doesn't work and that bothers me. (Some reviews say it does, some say it doesn't....it's like they changed it at some point.) It's a licensed asymmetric controller. I'd like it if it had rumble (in an "acceptable" sort of way...not like the "this feels good Raiju" despite the paralell sticks.) (Raiju d-pad isn't even a d-pad...so it ain't for you, but it's otherwise amazing and even features your favorite sticks.) I tried for the first time in a long time picking up the DS4 again....OMG my left wrist was in such pain trying to use those sticks....no, sorry, not going to fly. The Raiju...same symmetry, but no pain. It's the *#$@ DS4. I'm sure it's fine in the hands of Japanese children. Like single Joycon. I'll use the DS4 for VR and Tearaway and that's about it. So I'm stuck with just accepting no rumble (Hori Onyx), accepting wires only (Raiju) or maybe the Brook to take an XBox controller to PS4 (but I hear it has battery life worse than stock DS4, and if you go with an Elite costs as much as the Vantage anyway...)

But holy geeze the pain slowly building in the wrist from that DS4.....it's not the symmetry alone that's the problem. Raiju proved that, I can move from X1/Elite-Razer X1 Wolverine-Razer Raiju with ease. the small handles, sharp angle of the wrist, tiny sticks, and high tension sticks of the DS4 that make it awful. Plus those spongey buttons and triggers. Though I have to admit any of the Razer controllers blow every other controller out of the water where face buttons are concerned. Even the Elite. Microswitched goodness. Plus the sticks are more precise. (Verified when playing Ratchet & Clank a few months ago )

Sony keeps breaking the Brook support apparently, but Brook just firmware updates around it. EVO even allows them these days it seems.

Yeah, BG&E.....that's 2 E3's now that seems like a game trying to convince people of what it is when they don't know yet. Crowdsourcing assets isn't helping my opinion.

@Dezzy Ahh, well that's better, maybe CDPR does have the right of it then

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NEStalgia

@Octane Of course, artistic freedom, freedom to do whatever you want. There's a reason the top 3 sites on the internet even above Google are porn. Sure you have porn, you have video games and you can even have them together.....but....can and should don't always go together

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EvilLucario

@NEStalgia Excuse me, some of my favorite games are those that I can play with one hand. :^]

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Ralizah

@NEStalgia I don't know that I'll be replaying it, but I had originally planned to blow through it to get it out of my backlog. Now I'm probably going to spend significantly more time on it than I originally planned. It reminds me a LOT of Splatoon's single-player campaign, actually.

Wii U Pro controller isn't great. The stick placement is actually worse than on the Xbox or Switch Pro controllers. The right analog stick should ALWAYS be on the bottom of the pad. And the thing is weirdly light. No heft to it whatsoever.

With that said, it doesn't die in two hours like the GamePad, so I've found it a necessity.

DS4 is one of the comfiest controllers I've ever owned, and the gyroscope makes it ideal for use on both Switch and PC. It would be my favorite controller ever if it ditched the touchpad and lightbar, had a real button for options, and lasted longer on a charge.

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NEStalgia

@redd214 Whooaaah you've just made my week!! Not keen on another $200 controller option but I'll take the Razers over the Scuffs in a heartbeat. I hope they use their signature microswitch buttons....every controller should have those standard. That's a tough call. The Ultimate looks like a wireless PS4 version of the X1 Wolverine that I absolutely love, but with the symmetrical sticks of a Raiju. The Tournament looks like a wireless version of the existing Raiju with better stick covers, yet oddly is the one to transpose to my preferred asymmetrical layout. Both are going to be a tough call for me, but I'm very excited! And now to go remove that Brook from my shopping cart....

Yeah....DS4...it's not the worst controller I've ever used. That distinction goes to random Madcatz and the DS3....but it's just so.....awful. The sticks are weirdly high tension with weirdly small heads, the triggers feel like flat rubber mats, the OG battery life sucked, the face buttons have no feedback, and the ergonomics of the stick position/size/tension in relation to the handles is so painful for me. It feels "quality built" but poorly designed to me. I always thought I hated the parallel sticks but Raiju proved it's mostly irrelevant to me so long as the other ergonomics compliments it.

On second thought, yeah, go finance an XBox...you need a proper controller in your life

@Evillucario Fortunately Super Mario Run's primary design is based upon being able to play it with one hand......so that must be a great game for you

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redd214

@NEStalgia yeah can't say I agree with even one of your criticisms outside of battery. And if I did get an Xbox I would get an adapter to use the DS4 lol

redd214

NEStalgia

@Ralizah You do realize most people pretty much never use the D-Pad for much of anything beyond menu navigation, weapon selection, and emotes, right? Platform and non-stick fighting fans are kind of the exception to the rule.

DS4....comfy.....Obvious jokes about hands at right angles to each other aside (like I said Raiju proved it doesn't matter to me)....the DS4 problem is the tiny handles and close together sticks. Because the hands sit high on the short handle and the sticks are low, I have to stretch my thumb fully away from the hand, and then kind of torque it around to sit flat on the stick...meaning the wrist is then twisted back every so slightly so you're in pretty much a "carpel tunnel guaranteed!" position from any motion. Worse you have to pivot it back to natural to hit the (stiff) trigger, and you can actually feel the tendon extend in the wrist.

While asymmetric sticks solve that problem, simply extending the handles and separating the sticks also solves it by keeping the wrist angle lower compared to the sticks. Raiju and the new Raiju Ultimate redd linked to demonstrate that larger distance nicely, without even needing to go asymmetric if you somehow have an OCD aversion to it (Sadly Raiju/Raiju Tornament D-pads are more like Joycon D-Pad button clusters, and Raiju Ultimate looks to be like Wolverine Ultimate.....kind of like XBox 360's DPad but better....but not amazing.)

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EvilLucario

@Ralizah The Wii U Pro Controller was just a waste of space imo considering the GamePad was better in terms of ergonomics anyway. I kept that thing plugged in at all times anyway, so the short battery life was no big deal.

Xbox/PlayStation controllers are fine for me, but honestly my favorite controller ever might be the Classic Controller Pro for the Wii. Something about that controller just clicks well with me.

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NEStalgia

@redd214 LOL....the ergonomics kill me....but the sticks....wide deadzones, high tension. Buttons have short travel but no feedback....triggers are really stiff and spongey. Try that X1 controller...you'll love it! Unless you're Ralazah.

If you really love the format try those Razers....they're wonderful

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@EvilLucario The ergonomics of the Classic were pretty good, but the parts were reeeallly cheap. Like, Madcatz cheap.

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