Topic: The PlayStation Fan Thread

@Dezzy Not a leap, media has been trying to condition and engineer the public for the digital (and more profitable) future since before it was even close to realistic. Remember the far too early for their own good AOL-Time-Warner merger when the plan was for all TV, radio, film, and news to be delivered by internet subscription.....back in 1999? They keep pushing at it conditioning everyone to it. Normally I'd agree with you, but this time you're being far too trusting

And yeah that means the games must be designed to service the monetization model, rather than monetizing a game that was made. It's no longer art and becomes a machine to drive attachment.

@Octane Valid points. I'm still hoping For Honor and other failures will serve as a wakeup call to the perils of SaaS going forward. If it doesn't work big, it fails hard.

@Dezzy Please tell me the gameplay above is for RDR1? Otherwise that looks awful.

@Dezzy @Octane I'm worried about Fallout 79. Trying to shoehorn MMO PvP into what is ostensibly a single player RPG sounds like possibly the worst idea in gaming I've ever heard.

https://twitter.com/JordanFringe94/status/1026915827466084352...

"At least 50GB". The full size of a PS4 disc is 50GB....woah….so it seems the entire trilogy doesn't fit on a disc.

RIP Switch release.

....so it really is just poorly optimized and bloated? Great. Just....

I have the PS1 Classics trilogy on PS3, I'll play them there.

@CanisWolfred Well...

Every stage has unique voice acting of presumably high quality. It'll have 1080p textures, and we need to remember every level even in the originals barely reused assets. Then there is the fact it's got two separate soundtracks to toggle between, one much higher quality audio than the other. Then add in the fact every level has a unique aesthetic, sounds, models, textures...

Then multiple it by 3.

These games aint big.

Makes me wonder how we ever assumed this would work on Switch.

And sure, the PS1 Classics on PS3 are fine...except in Europe where we get the American releases (Despite PSBlog in 2011 telling us the EU gets releases late to ensure they get working PAL copies) and as a result has rampant slow down, frame drops and music lag.

So PS1 disc or bust.

Yes we don't have gameplay of RDR2 yet.

I think RDR1 still looks quite good though if you look past the technical limitations. Some of the environments are excellent and incredibly detailed.

@Knuckles-Fajita Why "RIP Switch release?" The game will be smaller on Switch than on PS4. They'll just make it where you have to download data to play it, like a lot of the third party games coming to Switch these days.

@Ralizah Yeah but looking at the seeming size of this 1080p game, getting it down to even 20gb would be a feat for 720p at most.

@Knuckles-Fajita Still sounds like it's bloated and they should've put more work in to cut the filesize down. You'd be surprised how much space one could save just by coimpressing the audio files, for instance...

@Knuckles-Fajita Why? DOOM was 50+ GB on PC/PS4/Xbone, but it was only 22.4 GB for the Switch release.

@Ralizah

But that was probably because they needed to shrink a lot of the texture resolutions in order to make it fit in the Switch's memory.
That wont necessarily apply to all games. Spyro might be fine without that, especially given that it was based on a PS1 game, which will have been designed for optimisation from the start (meaning the levels were designed to only load so many textures at any given point)

What was the filesize difference for Crash Bandicoot?

@Dezzy 24 GB on PS4 and 5.2 GB on Switch version.

@darkfenrir

Well that's weird. Is there a difference in the type of data compression you can use on Switch or something?

I doubt Crash Bandicoot would need to reduce the texture sizes.

@Dezzy They probably do reduce texture size (at the minimum, getting rid of the 4K ones?)

And then some compression on the sound files... And maybe video size too if there's cutscenes (not sure about this)

@darkfenrir

Oh yeah maybe the PS4 games contain textures for the PS4pro. That would explain it.

Wooo LegacyKilla was right.

RDR2 gameplay trailer tomorrow. So hyped:

https://gematsu.com/2018/08/red-dead-redemption-2-gameplay-vi...

500 Million LE PS4 Pro going on sale in a couple weeks. This thing looks amazing, may have to see if I can secure one!

That is really cool looking. Still bummed I missed out on the GoW one, though

Red Dead trailer is up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw_oH5oiUSE

I just had to capture some of these environments. This is the most impressive landscape design I've ever seen in an open-world game.

I'm seeing a distinct lack of In App Purchases for a Take Two published title.

@Dezzy certaintly was an amazing trailer! Havent played any of the previous games but I'm very intrigued by this one. Probably wont get it around launch as I'm pretty set in terms of what I'm going to play this Fall/winter but I hope it lives up to the hype for everyone!