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Danrenfroe2016

NOTE: CROSS POSTED ON AN IGN THREAD.

OK, short history. Been a Nintendo Fanboy for decades. But...

Looking to get into a PS4 or a XBONE as the wii / wii U generation was good and a huge letdown to me at the same time. I feel that Nintendo is so off base with the NX its not even funny, so i'm looking to get into either Xbox or PS4.

And I know next to nothing.

Questions:

1. XBONE: How is the eshop selection (non physical games)?

2. PS4: How is the eshop selection (non physical games)?

3. Can I buy an xbone and buy the Doom Classic Complete digital and run it? I guess I'm asking if the xbox 360 digital games (that are compatible with xbox one) are still available for purchase on a xbox one?

4. (please, no flame bait intended) Graphics, PS4 vs Xbone. Resolution aside, is the xbone really that much inferior to the PS4? I mean I realize the new Doom may look a bit better on the ps4, but should this even be a major concern in my purchase decision?

5. Owners that have both machines: Favorite and why?

I really enjoy:
platformer
fps (campaign, not a big online fps guy)
3rd person adventure
driving games (need for speed most wanted, dirt, Not the strictly sim racers)
bullet hell
occasional "time waster" digital games.
not a fan of RPGs or puzzle games. (I will do Zelda though lol)

Any input is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Danrenfroe2016

faint

First things first. Nobody knows what the nx is.

As far as ps4 and Xbox one well it depends entirely on preference. I own both and love them equally.

Imop the ps4 has a better online shop but I have had more fun with Xbox One exclusives than PS4 exclusives. The ps4 seems to do lighting and particle work better but the Xbox has superior shadows.
The PS4 definitely beats the Xbox One when it comes to resolution vs frames per second however this is not a deal breaker for me. I go where the games are and love all current home consoles.

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faint

@Ichi I've never understood the whole it's almost dead opinion when it comes to a newbie. The Xbox still has a ton of games they have likely never played. I make the same argument for the wiiu.

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Ralizah

PS4 and Xbox One are roughly in the same price range now. PS4 is, of course, more powerful, but it's not that big of a deal either way. The bigger reason to prefer PS4 is the wider range of available and upcoming exclusive software. Getting an Xbox One at this point is just locking yourself off from several very decent exclusive games.

PSN has a wealth of games on it, btw.

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-SD-

I'd personally recommend waiting a few weeks for a Pro.... and the selection of games on PSN is vast.

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DefHalan

-SD- wrote:

I'd personally recommend waiting a few weeks for a Pro.... and the selection of games on PSN is vast.

Yeah, when the pro comes out the regular PS4s (which play the same games as the Pri) used should go down in price

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

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sagelike

the idea i have in mind when comparing xbox to ps4 rule #1game selection on xbone is familar to pc
#2 own a consle that has a nice look for sitting on a shelf or matches to what you have in colors that u like
#3 will u use it

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JaxonH

@Danrenfroe2016

As others mentioned, NX is a mystery. Can't say whether it's good or bad when no one has even seen one, much less played games on one.

1 better game selection than on Nintendo, but minus the virtual console.

2 better than Xbox, usually gets games Xbox doesn't or gets first

3 almost all 360 compatible games can be purchased from the Xbox Live store on X1, minus a few games which give an error and require purchase on PC/360

4 graphics are a non issue- the difference was played up by fanboys, I own both and can't tell them apart, but do note that framerate can be better on PS4 for some games

5 [sighs...] PS4, but with great reluctance do I say that. Until recently it wasn't even a competition. It was PS4 all the way. X1 UI was clunky, no BC at that time, PS4 was getting so many more exclusives... but then Spencer has turned it around for X1. Now I almost wanna say X1 is better.

X1

  • external drive support- never have to run out of space, and if you upgrade to Scorpio just unplug 4-6TB external HDD, plug in and you're all set
  • backward compatible with 360 games, and there's lots of gems like Portal 2, Dark Souls, Rayman Origins, XCOM, lots of Neo Geo and Sega classics in arcade
  • best controller, and new Xbox Lab custom controller is dope. Put headphones in jack, mute TV and hear all audio through earbuds via the controller
  • cheaper system, almost as low as $200
  • improved UI, now works well
  • Kinect (if you get one) sucks but is very convenient to say "scan a code" then hold up your DLC qr code and instantly download your season pass or included DLC for whatever game, also turn on and off, start a game, etc
  • less exclusives, but Ori & the Blind Forest and ReCore and Forza Horizon and Halo MCC and Halo 5 and Gears Ultimate and Gears 4 and Rare Replay and Quantum Break and Rise of the Tomb Raider are worth it, so so so worth it
  • Xbox One S has 4K BluRay player

PS4

  • best UI and ease of use, now with folders (much needed)
  • more exclusives, from Uncharted 4, Uncharted Collection, Last of Us, Infamous, Ratchet & Clank, Street Fighter V, King of Fighters XIV, No Mans Sky, God of War III, Gravity Rush, Gravity Rush 2, Star Ocean V, Tales of Zesteria, Tales of Berseria, Toukiden Kiwami, Disgaea 5, MegaDimension Neptunia VII, Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth and soon Next Order, Dragon Quest Heroes, Bloodborne, Romance of Three Kingdoms, Nobanuga's Ambition, Final Fantasy X, God Eater, God Eater 2, Tearaway Unfolded, Little Big Planet 3, The Order 1886, Killzone, with lots more on the way
  • even if negligible, better frame rates in some games
  • hard capped limit of 2TB due to no external HDD support- will result in playing musical chairs with your game installs once you max out on your storage limit
  • Remote play is lame, laggy and not enough buttons on Vita for most games, PSTV is a joke even for $20 don't waste your money
  • controllers made cheap, ripped analog in less than 2 years
  • PS2 games starting to be sold on PSN Store
  • PS4 Pro has no 4K BluRay player

So yes, PS4 is my favorite, but not by much. I need my Xbox One because I already filled up my 2tb PS4 and was deleting games already to make room. Xbox doesn't have that problem. And the BC is invaluable. I wanted Portal 2 so badly for the last 10 years... now I can finally play it (if you haven't heard of Portal 2, ask somebody- perhaps one of the greatest video games ever made)

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3DS:
Steam:
PS5:
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NS: SMTV, Bayonetta 3, Splatoon 3, Triangle Strategy, MH Rise Sunbreak, Zelda BotW 2, Metroid Prime 4

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Haru17

"Eshop," hehe.

Anyway, except for a few possible exceptions that I haven't encountered myself, all games this gen are on the digital storefronts. A few games might be digital-only, but I haven't seen a single physical release that wasn't also available digitally. Your biggest digital concern when buying one of these machines should be storage space. When most games are 30-50 gb, and the base hard drive is only about 400 gb, your system fills up quick. So it pays to spring for the 1 tb models, even if you're okay with deleting and redownloading games all the time.

Don't hate me because I'm bnahabulous.

JaxonH

@Danrenfroe2016
Also, for games more familiar to you as a Nintendo gamer, here's ones you would like

X1

  • ReCore (I don't care what reviews say- this feels like Metroid Prime in so many ways, it's great)
  • Ori & the Blind Forest (a colorful 2D "Metroid" game with mechanics as tight as DKC)
  • Rare Replay (30 Rare games? Oh ya)
  • Rise of the Tomb Raider (closest thing to a AAA realistic Zelda there is, maybe better than Zelda)
  • Forza Horizon 2 and 3 (best arcade racer I've ever played... ever)
  • Portal [360]
  • Portal 2 [360] (one of best games ever made)
  • Rayman Origins (better than Legends)
  • XCOM [360]
  • Dark Souls [360]

PS4

  • Valkyria Chronicles (only SRPG as good as Fire Emblem- this game is timeless)
  • Final Fantasy X (one of best JRPG's ever made)
  • Dragon Quest Heroes (better than Hyrule Warriors)
  • Street Fighter V (finally patched somewhat complete, everyone loves SF)
  • Infamous Second Son (one of best exclusives on the system, just awesome gameplay focused game)
  • Ratchet & Clank (can't touch Nintendo platformers but, still great)
  • Gravity Rush & Gravity Rush 2 (super fun and unique- very "Nintendo like")
  • Bastion and Transistor (perhaps the best indies I've ever played, both from same dev)
  • Horizon Zero Dawn (just looks great for any Zelda or Xenoblade X fan)

Edited on by JaxonH

PLAYING
NS: METROID DREAD (10/10 muah!)
3DS:
Steam:
PS5:
MOST EXCITED FOR
NS: SMTV, Bayonetta 3, Splatoon 3, Triangle Strategy, MH Rise Sunbreak, Zelda BotW 2, Metroid Prime 4

Jesus is Lord.

JaxonH

@CanisWolfred

😀 The curse of OCD.

PLAYING
NS: METROID DREAD (10/10 muah!)
3DS:
Steam:
PS5:
MOST EXCITED FOR
NS: SMTV, Bayonetta 3, Splatoon 3, Triangle Strategy, MH Rise Sunbreak, Zelda BotW 2, Metroid Prime 4

Jesus is Lord.

Danrenfroe2016

You guys/gals are amazing. So much info.

I'm waiting until ps4pro hits to drop prices. Then I will make my decision on sony or ms.
@Ichi
My TV? Hitachi 57 inch CRT projection.

It's amazing for retro consoles and new HDMI consoles as well. Has s-video all the way to HDMI. 1080i. Displays all the old consoles superbly with no lag and no weirdnes. Blu-ray is amazing with a very theater like appearance. I think allot of the great image quality comes from the imprecision of CRT based HD. It's really amazing for movies and games alike as there is no "hard edges" on the pixels. Supports 1080i, 720p, 480p and 480i input. It's the only HD TV I have seen that will run an original NES flawlessly. ( note that even though it is a CRT projection TV it does not work with the light gun 😭😭😭)

I highly recommend picking one up if you get the chance. I got mine for free and if you watch on Facebook garage sale groups and 5 miles and such they can be had for extremely low prices and sometimes free. will use it as long as it still works.

Danrenfroe2016

Gamer83

Xbox One has a better UI, better AAA exclusives and a much better online network. PS4 is a more powerful console and if you do want the 'best' version of most multiplat games, that's the console to get. It also has a better selection in regards to the digital titles. I'm more of a PlayStation guy, but you can't go wrong with an Xbox One either. It also goes in cycles throughout the year. Right now it's Xbox One time because Sony never shows up for the holidays. Of course, after the holidays, MS disappears until the next holiday season. As for the genres you like, there's only one clear cut winner in one category and that's MS in the driving games department. After Forza Horizon 3 comes out in a couple weeks, there will be four Forza games this gen, Sony meanwhile just pushed back Gran Turismo from November of this year until some unknown date in 2017. If driving games are really important to you, Xbox One is the obvious choice.

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Peek-a-boo

@Gamer83 I just HATE the UI for the Xbox One.

Everything is slow, everything is an 'app' that seems to load for 3, 4 or 5 seconds and the Windows 8 + 10 tiles theme just doesn't work anywhere near as good or as well as it does on a PC or Windows Phone 8 + 10.

Granted, the UI does look nice when you don't have to use it for long though.

I also thoroughly dislike how Microsoft throws the kitchen sink in the last three or four months of the year, then expect third party developers to tie them over from January to August... every single year.

There has only been ONE exclusive (Quantum Break) for the Xbox One between those January to August, whereas it has been an embarrassment of riches on the PlayStation 4.

I generally agree with what you have to say about the Xbox One however, the UI and the 'let's forget about Q1, Q2 and Q3 and dump everything into Q4' mentality are terrible.

As for the OP question(s), most of them have already been answered. As it always goes, choose the console that has the most appealing line-up of games FOR YOU.

Edited on by Peek-a-boo

Peek-a-boo

Octane

Peek-a-boo wrote:

As for the OP question(s), most of them have already been answered. As it always goes, choose the console that has the most appealing line-up of games FOR YOU.

I can second this. Performance on the Xbox One is often a little less than on the PS4, but we're not talking about something like the jump from Wii U to Xbox One. It's noticeable of course, but it's only a small difference.

Octane

LzWinky

-SD- wrote:

I'd personally recommend waiting a few weeks for a Pro.... and the selection of games on PSN is vast.

Get a Slim unless you have 4k display. Otherwise the Pro is pointless.

Current games: Everything on Switch

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MrGawain

The PS4 a few colourful games like Ratchet and Clank, LBP3, Tearaway, and SF5, but in reality as a Nintendo fan I found the PS4 a letdown as the games are a little flimsy in comparison to Splatoon, Smash, MK8, Bayonetta 2 etc...

...but in reality it's still more like a Nintendo system than the XB1.

Isn't it obvious that Falco Lombardi is actually a parrot?

Octane

Lzeon wrote:

-SD- wrote:

I'd personally recommend waiting a few weeks for a Pro.... and the selection of games on PSN is vast.

Get a Slim unless you have 4k display. Otherwise the Pro is pointless.

''Q: What benefits does PS4 Pro provide when played on a non-4K HDTV?
PS4 Pro offers benefits even if you play on a HDTV that isn’t 4K. Depending on how the developer chooses to use the increased processing power, games with PS4 Pro support are able to render higher or more consistent framerates, increased environmental and character model detail, improved overall visual quality, and other related visual enhancements. For a look at how games are using the power of PS4 Pro, watch some of the first game footage on our YouTube page.

Additionally, PS4 games that render below native 1080p (maximum quality for HD TVs) on the standard PS4 can be elevated to render at full native 1080p on an HDTV.''

For just $50 more? Yeah, that's anything but pointless. Even if you don't have a 4K TV, there are still enough benefits that warrant the extra 50 bucks.

Source: http://blog.us.playstation.com/2016/09/08/ps4-pro-the-ultimat...

Octane

gcunit

I think you mean 'potential benefits'. Let's face it, if Sony has to justify it with a long-winded FAQ answer, it means the difference will be pretty much indistinguishable, is my guess.

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