I still remember my tiny TV back when I had a Gamecube. I still wonder how the heck I played on that thing
To this very day my favorite TV to game on is my 7" CRT. I just love it's mini CRT-ness. I even hook my Wii U up to it and play games like MK8. It makes no sense but I just like it
Also, to even get the benefit of the 4k resolution you need to sit close to the TV. Something like 4 feet (1.2m) from a 55 inch (if I remember correctly). Most living room have their couch further away, which means you need to have an even bigger TV.
I also don't see a need for gaming to quickly go 4K. 4K photography is a great thing but computer graphics for gaming just don't need that detail as fast as we can get it, which is still a ways off because pushing full 4K in real time for games that take advantage of photorealistic presentation requires some serious power. I'm not convinced that even games with photorealistic styles need 4K anytime soon.
A lot of the best looking pre-rendered 1080p content is rendered at 4K. Because if you have the horsepower running the game at a higher resolution and downscaling it is better than any other AA technique. If you can render it at 4K natively? Well you get all of the benefits of super sampling but you don't have that downscaling penalty and you can actually display a higher level of detail.
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I also don't see a need for gaming to quickly go 4K. 4K photography is a great thing but computer graphics for gaming just don't need that detail as fast as we can get it, which is still a ways off because pushing full 4K in real time for games that take advantage of photorealistic presentation requires some serious power. I'm not convinced that even games with photorealistic styles need 4K anytime soon.
A lot of the best looking pre-rendered 1080p content is rendered at 4K. Because if you have the horsepower running the game at a higher resolution and downscaling it is better than any other AA technique. If you can render it at 4K natively? Well you get all of the benefits of super sampling but you don't have that downscaling penalty and you can actually display a higher level of detail.
I'm talking about timing, not the inevitability or benifits of 4K. I don't think consoles need to promise 4K before other things come into place (not that I'm saying that is presently the case with platform holders). In the meantime there are other technologies that can be explored for the sake of the gaming experience that would benifit from lower output resolution that, I feel, shouldn't be limited or remain unexplored by the priority of 4K console gaming above all else (again, not saying that I'm seeing this, I would just like to see more innovation with other technologies when it comes to console gaming)
I also don't see a need for gaming to quickly go 4K. 4K photography is a great thing but computer graphics for gaming just don't need that detail as fast as we can get it, which is still a ways off because pushing full 4K in real time for games that take advantage of photorealistic presentation requires some serious power. I'm not convinced that even games with photorealistic styles need 4K anytime soon.
A lot of the best looking pre-rendered 1080p content is rendered at 4K. Because if you have the horsepower running the game at a higher resolution and downscaling it is better than any other AA technique. If you can render it at 4K natively? Well you get all of the benefits of super sampling but you don't have that downscaling penalty and you can actually display a higher level of detail.
I'm talking about timing, not the inevitability or benifits of 4K. I don't think consoles need to promise 4K before other things come into place (not that I'm saying that is presently the case with platform holders). In the meantime there are other technologies that can be explored for the sake of the gaming experience that would benifit from lower output resolution that, I feel, shouldn't be limited or remain unexplored by the priority of 4K console gaming above all else (again, not saying that I'm seeing this, I would just like to see more innovation with other technologies when it comes to console gaming)
@cwong15 I understand your point about Super Paper Mario, but two things:
First of all, it's possible the servers for Wii U and 3DS would be up for longer. Apparently the Wii and DS servers were third-party, which costed $ and wasn't worth to keep after a certain point. The Wii U and 3DS servers are first-party, which means theoretically they should be around for longer (especially considering the release of games like Super Mario Maker and Splatoon in 2015).
Another rumour, Foxconn apparently believes their operating profit will increase in the second half of the year thanks to iPhone and NX. If this is true, NX might very well come out this holiday.
Another rumour, Foxconn apparently believes their operating profit will increase in the second half of the year thanks to iPhone and NX. If this is true, NX might very well come out this holiday.
@DefHalan: You're right - technically he's not wrong right now. But he will be soon.
Anyway, your initial post was, "Not sure if people are debating when the NX is releasing..." So... yea...I answered that by posting somebody who IS debating it lol.
I mean, you typed those words, not me. Don't try to take them back now haha
@DefHalan: You're right - technically he's not wrong right now. But he will be soon
We don't know for a fact that I'm wrong. Maybe I am, maybe I'm not, but to be completely honest, I really don't like this "Everyone who says something I don't is wrong" attitude of yours.
There is nothing here...except for the stuff I just typed...
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@DefHalan: You're right - technically he's not wrong right now. But he will be soon
We don't know for a fact that I'm wrong. Maybe I am, maybe I'm not, but to be completely honest, I really don't like this "Everyone who says something I don't is wrong" attitude of yours.
Technically the statement you made couldn't ever be wrong (at least as far as I can see).
Are we really still debating if NX is coming out in 2016? It is, people! Accept it and move on lol
The real discussion is now dealing with the form factor and launch titles.
It seems more likely given the amount of stuff coming out. And by stuff I mean talk from places like Foxconn and not the rumour mill. I think we're looking at a launch within the next year or so but I don't think 2017 is completely impossible. I could see them potentially doing a March 2017 launch especially if they want to give some current gen releases (Zelda U, Pokemon) a bit of clear air.
On Sunday night I was looking at neogaf and a post came up with lots of pictures of what I think were E3 application forms for developers and hardware manufacturers briefly asking for information on what they were showing and embargo dates. Regrettably I didn't look at them all as most of them were just the questions with no answers. However I read 1 that had info about the NX and 2 games (the bit with games on was a separate box with a scroll bar so it could only show 2 games as it was a still picture but there were more).
The games were beyond good and evil 2 and earthbound HD.
There was a description of the NX, I can't remember the exact words but it was along the lines of "Nintendo Is releasing an insanely powerful console and has immense 3rd party support" there may have been more buy it's all I can remember.
I wasn't really convinced by it at first as it just didnt sound like Nintendo using words like "insanely", but then the comments underneath were basically saying, "take this down, you shouldn't have shown this, your in trouble dude!"
I went to bed as it was late but I was interested.
In the morning the post was gone.
Is this interesting as I don't know what to think?
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