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Topic: Which Wii U Games Would You Want To See Get Ported/Remastered To The NX

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Bolt_Strike

-Splatoon
-Mario Kart 8
-Super Mario Maker
-Captain Toad

Pretty much the only ones worth playing.

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Shinion

@Bolt_Strike: what have you got against Smash Bros, it got universal acclaim and I can't think of any reason to put it in the 'avoid!' category.

I almost nearly asked you about why you've not included yet another Wii U game to receive universal acclaim in Super Mario 3D World but then I double-checked who I was responding to. I dogged a bullet there hey? Less ranting about 3D game design the better as far as I'm concerned.

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Bolt_Strike

TheLastLugia wrote:

@Bolt_Strike: what have you got against Smash Bros, it got universal acclaim and I can't think of any reason to put it in the 'avoid!' category.

Because it's repetitive and hasn't changed much since Brawl.

TheLastLugia wrote:

I almost nearly asked you about why you've not included yet another Wii U game to receive universal acclaim in Super Mario 3D World but then I double-checked who I was responding to. I dogged a bullet there hey? Less ranting about 3D game design the better as far as I'm concerned.

Too bad, you're getting one anyway.

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Luna_110

None.

I want Nintendo to focus on having new first party games and getting third parties on board.
If I wanted to play Wii U games, I'll just boot up my Wii U.
I really don't get this gen's need for ports.

http://time.com/3723953/console-buyers/

In the poll results there, for Nintendo, Backwards Compatibility is just fourth on the list of relevant factors, and I'm no expert but you could argue it is valued because of the Wii U's game draught.

Plus, I still don't understand how people expect XCX to work as a port without the gamepad.

I have a chronic lack of time, for everything.

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DefHalan

@Luna_110: What if the Wii U replacement supports two screen gaming, either through a new GamePad, Support for the old GamePad (then sold separately), using the 3DS or 3DS replacement, or by using your smart device?

The Smart device wouldn't work as well as the GamePad but it might still work well enough.

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

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skywake

DefHalan wrote:

@Kuhang: and as I have said in other threads. If Nintendo doesn't have some form of Backwards Compatibility then it shows how they are behind the times and not looking forward or taking digital game releases seriously.

Maybe I'm being naive but I think they will go down the digital BC road. Which will mean that these games will exist on the NX but that people who got the Wii U versions will have free access to them. Whether that's all of the games or just a fraction depends on how hard they push it. But if done in software it's not going to be 100% just as it wasn't for the 360 and it's not for the XBOne.

Though keeping Wii U owners happy is only half of the equation. There are going to be NX owners who skipped the Wii U, Nintendo needs to make Wii U games available to these people. We can whine that they could have got these games if "they really wanted them" but that's beside the point. I doubt Nintendo cares how much you want to buy these games, they just care whether you do or not. With that in mind these are the games that IMO should be top-priority for full NX compatibility:

1. Zelda
2. Splatoon
3. Super Mario Maker
4. Smash Bros
5. Bayonetta 2

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Luna_110

@DefHalan
If it were the first two choices, I could see it working. But the others? Not really.
One of the lovely things about XCX, in my opinion, is the seamless experience playing and using FrontierNav.
Using the tiny handheld (it can't be bigger if it is a handheld) and using a smart device as an add on would be outright weird.

That's the problem I see with games that use the gamepad, unless the NX controller has an screen and gyro controls (the second is more plausible), some games will be a pain to port.

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DefHalan

@Luna_110: It wouldn't be an ideal solutions, but it would be functional

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

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dtjive

1. Zelda - a system seller, and if the new game is amazing as it seems, it could really push sales.
2. Mario Maker- just makes sense, they're unlikely to release a Mario Maker 2 when that can just be done via DLC over the years and it's been a great success on the Wii U

These are the only two games that should definitely be ported over. The rest is more contingent on how far down the line a new game is for the series. If there isn't a successor to 3Đ world, MK8, Super Smash, Splatoon planned for the first two years then it could make logical sense.

Personally, fitting with the 4 port rumour I'd hazard a guess that it would be a slightly upgraded Splatoon to give potentially new gamers a chance to experience it in promotion for Splatoon2 3/4 years into the console life, and Super Smash as it's well liked and can continue to be supported well via DLC

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cwong15

It's all about the online community, folks. That's why the rumored ports — Smash, Splatoon, Mario Maker — are the games with the largest, most vibrant online communities. Nintendo faces a special challenge doing a mid-generation release: they start with an installed base of 0. If you buy the NX now, you will be surrounded by ... nobody. Nobody online to play with, to share ideas with. It's a lonely world, unlike the current generation consoles with their established communities.

That's why Nintendo needs to plug in any new NX customers into a large, thriving online community. That's what all the rumored ports bring with them. That way, the NX world will not seem so desolate, at least at first. Not everyone cares about online play or online interaction, but I bet quite a few people do. This is for them.

IMHO, Nintendo squandered their first mover advantage with the Wii U by failing to build online communities with their launch lineup. It was mostly single-player games. Hopefully, they won't make the same mistake again.

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Kuhang

@cwong15: If NX is how Nintendo's been describing it to be like how everything is interconnected and Nintendo manages to get cross platform gaming between this generation's Wii U and the next Gen' NX than that would be massive. Like how you could still access all Mario Maker courses from Wii U and vice versa or in a game like Splatoon if you could pay online with the Wii U install base that would solve a lot of problems concerning the deserted online activities of NX from day one. That would be awesome.

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Samurai_Goroh

None. I don't want Nintendo to lose time and focus from developing new games to rehash Wii U remasters. They need to bring new exciting stuff to the next console.
It is highly likely that this time backwards compatibility will have to be forfeit. That however does not justify the avalanche of remastered line-up people are begging for. Fear not, there is already a device fully compatible with those Wii U games you seem to crave, so you don't have to wait another day: It's called Wii U, go buy it if you want and hush.
On Nx, I want new games.

Samurai_Goroh

DBPirate

Smash Definitive Edition, Zelda.

That's pretty much it. Splatoon, Mario Maker, and Mario Kart 8 can get sequels as launch titles, not ports.

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Indy83

DefHalan wrote:

@Kuhang: and as I have said in other threads. If Nintendo doesn't have some form of Backwards Compatibility then it shows how they are behind the times and not looking forward or taking digital game releases seriously.

There are a few options Nintendo can take for BC.

1. Keep the PPC 750 legacy architecture as the nx cpu. THis would mean yet another 'underpowered' cpu to public perception (The 750 is a fantastic cpu series, albeit dated), likely what we would be looking at is some cobbled together 6-8 core shrunk down upclocked 750 cpu on a soc or an apu.

This would also enable the system bc with the wii u, wii, and gc, however history points to only hombrewers ever making this happen.

Now that Nintendo's contract with IBM that was signed in the gamecube era is up... Nintendo may want to pass in favor of seeking a newer more modern/more favored by 3rd parties chipset.

2. Nintendo would manufacture a new run of wii u chips, on a newer smaller process, and include the legacy processor in the console for bc purposes (The method used in the ds for gba compatability, and again in the 3ds, but for ds compatability).

Again, this would enable wii u, wii, and gc backwards compatability, the Wii u shows that this might go unused by Nintendo.

This is a bit of a pricey option. Even with parts prices subsidized by the flow of time, having just 1 dollar more in parts can bring about large costs, add that one dollar into a production run of 5 milion units, and you just added 5 million bucks to the cost. THis is why Nintendo eventually removed the progressive scan capability of the game cube (They removed the port you plug the cable into, to save money on the parts), and the gamecube ports on the wii.

3. Nintendo could port each game individually. This would be an opportunity cost that would directly be competing with the ability to make something new instead.

Personally I do not care whether or not the NX has any kind of BC. I've never gotten rid of a console. If I want to play my old games, I just boot them up.

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Indy83

DefHalan

@Indy83: 4. Emulation like Xbox One or Virtual Console.

Also, most people don't have 20 ports on their TV for all their consoles to be able to just be booted up. Most people only have a few ports and have to use the sparingly.

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

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Indy83

DefHalan wrote:

@Indy83: 4. Emulation like Xbox One or Virtual Console.

Also, most people don't have 20 ports on their TV for all their consoles to be able to just be booted up. Most people only have a few ports and have to use the sparingly.

Good addition with #4. I certainly don't see the virtual console dissapearing, although I must admit I would be pretty impressed if the NX was powerful enough to simply brute force emulate Wii U.

Heh, when I want to play an old console I take it down from its display spot and plug it in.

My set-up is split between two ports. the hdmi compatable systems share a multi platform cable, so its one hdmi spot on the tv, and the other end splits into 3 ports for each system. Don't really care about image degregation, as I don't like wearing glasses when playing.

For systems prior to hdmi, I use the other outlet, provided they arent dependant on coaxial... they stay permanantly plugged into the tv, via generic cables, I have female to female adaptors on them, so I just unwrap the cables from the hook on the back of the tv, and plug those cables, into the game systems cables.

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Ryu_Niiyama

None. Aside from Zelda if you want to play wiiu games buy a wiiu. If Nintendo is trying to get the sony/ms/hate different controllers crowd, then games they already turned their noes up won't get it. I'd rather see them either make sequels to the wiiu games, build more new ips or revive franchises.

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SuperPaperLuigi

Lego City fully open world and without Load Times

Re-mastered Super Paper Mario with 360 rotation.

Also, Donkey Kong remix (all Donkey Kong and preferably the arcade version) and/or ROM hack with extended levels and the original move set (no handstands or summersaults).

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Edit: Also, not a Wii U game but, a Henry Hatsworth in the Puzzling Adventure style Mario Game. E.G. "Super Doctor Mario NX" (Henry Hatsworth is not a great game but the concept is excellent, if you could get the balance right).

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Grumblevolcano

I think the focus should be on online games so:
Smash Wii U
Super Mario Maker
Pokken
Splatoon
Mario Kart 8

Of course Zelda U is already confirmed but I think even that game may fit in the context of "online game" given the little info we know so far. My thinking of the choice of games is mainly about the rumour about cross gen servers, that would be the best way not to piss off Wii U owners.

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