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Topic: When do you think Switch sales will over take Wii sales?

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GrailUK

Catching DS is an interesting thought. If they had their hearts set on that then we won't see a successor for another 4 years or so and a heavy price cut in the last 2, Nintendo did mention they see the Switch having this much life left (easy if I'm honest) but the demand for Switch is keeping it's price high and the sucessor would need to launch at a similar price point as it was obviously a sweet spot. Gives me a headache thinking about it (and they don't pay me to have that headache thankfully!) How do you replace something so successful. Maybe the answer is, you don't. Then it's back to pillars etc.

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AlexHarford

The Switch has a better reputation than the Wii in the wider gaming world, so from that perspective it's good it'll sell more than the Wii.

The Wii was/is underrated and had a lot of hidden gems like MadWorld, Sin & Punishment, The Last Story, Red Steel 2, Pandora's Tower and so on. At first I didn't click with the Wii much because I didn't like the motion controls on Smash Bros and Mario Kart, but once I switched to the Gamecube controller on those games, all was well again (and of course motion controls worked great on some games). I think Wii Smash Bros is the best version of the game - I'm not sure what it is about the Switch version I don't like so much. The separate user accounts are annoying as my bro' used to unlock almost everything, but that's not the main reason I prefer the Wii version.

I've only owned a Switch for about 18 months, but it's my favourite console since the SNES, so it's great it's so successful.

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Silly_G

I never thought it would, even as it was rapidly gaining momentum, but considering the fact that it has exceeded 85 million lifetime sales, I think it can very easily sell another 15 million and surpass the Wii.

But outselling the DS? Not a chance, and I'll humbly eat my words if proven otherwise.

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skywake

I think it can overtake DS personally. It's currently on track so, all things being equal, all it needs to do is be the only game in town for longer. The 3DS launched in early 2011, the DS was late 2004/early 2005. That's 6 years and the Switch is at 5 early next year. If we don't have a clear announcement of what will replace the Switch by the end of next year? The Switch probably goes on to outsell the DS

I don't see a Switch successor that soon. A "Switch Pro" I could definitely see happening but arguably we put that underneath the "Switch" banner. But Switch 2? With an announcement at some point next year? No. Not with Metroid Prime 4, Bayonetta 3 and Breath of the Wild 2 on the immediate horizon. Not with the current position the Switch and the industry in general is in.

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SwitchForce

It will overtake it but people forget considering it took 4 yrs going to make sales number compared to a lifetime for Wii is what people forget. And it hasn't slowed down but only grown and now with OLED coming that just puts it more ahead. So people need to stop their talk and take and stand back and breath and think this is LifeTime sales and Switch hasn't reached LifeTime sales. So people are more or less comparing apple to orange which shows the sales numbers but have no relation to each other at this point in time.

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NintendoDad

@skywake @GrailUK

Hmmm . . . I was thinking about Wii, but can Switch outsell DS? Interesting thought.

Let's say they get past Wii next year. They would need about 50 million unit to pass the DS?

I guess the question in my mind would be . . . would the console that is past the Switch OLED going to still be considered a Switch and count towards that count? Like the New 3DS was counted in with the 3DS sales? If so, then does that make it more plausible that Switch gets past DS in lifetime sales?

The New 3DS can play some games that the original did not, but the New 3DS was able to play all the 3DS games. So does that mean if the Switch Pro plays all the Switch cartridges and games that it can be counted with the Switch sales numbers? LOL.

@AlexHarford

RE: Better Reputation — The thing with the Switch is that most of my kid's friends know the Switch and think its cool. They want to play it when they are over. But only half of them have one. But they all had a Wii. Rather than consoles, most play games on their phones or the PC. It's a different environment now-a-days compared to when the Wii came out IMHO. I am just amazed that the Switch has made so many sales.

@Silly_G

I do hope you have to eat your words on this one! LOL.

@SwitchForce

Yes. I am just looking at lifetime sales and ignoring / forgetting how long it took to get these numbers. LOL. Yes. Completely apple to oranges. LOL.

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skywake

NintendoDad wrote:

I guess the question in my mind would be . . . would the console that is past the Switch OLED going to still be considered a Switch and count towards that count? Like the New 3DS was counted in with the 3DS sales? If so, then does that make it more plausible that Switch gets past DS in lifetime sales?

These definitions are completely arbitrary. The Wii was more of a Gamecube than the GBA was a Gameboy. It'll still be a Switch if Nintendo continues to call it a Switch, that's all it comes down to really. And given they tried to link the Wii U to the Wii and 3DS to DS in branding I don't see them trying to brand the Switch successor as something entirely new

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@skywake

Hopefully they don't repeat the Wii U debacle. And I'm not sure how much anyone liked the "New" moniker to define the New 3DS.

Hopefully if Nintendo brings out a "Pro" Switch, they clearly outline the Features and Benefits clearly.

And bring out a strong line-up of games to really make the Feature and Benefits pretty obvious.

My biggest wish, though, would be that you could play the current Switch games on this successor.

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FX102A

I must confess I predicted lifetime sales of 75-80 million for the Switch, but it’s gone past that and seems to be going strong. I also suspect the OLED version will sell decently as many early adopters seek an upgrade (not all but a decent amount).

I feel it now has the potential to beat the Wii, however not the DS. That had the advantage of being a cheap system with many non-traditional gamers buying it for just 1 or a few games at most. The Switch is a bit outside the impulse buy market.

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SwitchForce

NintendoDad wrote:

@skywake

Hopefully they don't repeat the Wii U debacle. And I'm not sure how much anyone liked the "New" moniker to define the New 3DS.

If anything the Switch is something of a learning curve what to do right it has both 3DS and Wii feature combined into one package that is something innovative in itself.

NintendoDad wrote:

Hopefully if Nintendo brings out a "Pro" Switch, they clearly outline the Features and Benefits clearly.
And bring out a strong line-up of games to really make the Feature and Benefits pretty obvious.
My biggest wish, though, would be that you could play the current Switch games on this successor.

I do hope this comes sooner then later as how could they not do that. They need a 4k/DLSS succession to begin as anything. Switch begin in 2017 and 2019 v2 but still using original GPU and probably CPU that needs to breath new life into a aging system that is starting to show the lackluster graphics on some game and when Docked is more obvious to see.

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NintendoDad

@SwitchForce,

I totally agree with you on both points.

RE: Switch is . . . what to do right

Yes. Because it is both a set-top and portable, it allowed Nintendo to consolidate its efforts. While at the same time reducing the analysis-paralysis in the audience in that we don't need to pick whether we get a set-top or portable. We can have both at the same time with a single purchase! (But also with the added, if we really just want portable, we can pick Switch Lite . . . but using the same games.)

By Wii U debacle, I was referencing what some had said was a weak communication that the Wii U was not just a Wii add-on. But also that it took them a while before they brought out Mario Kart and Super Smash. We were (are) a Nintendo family. We started with the GameCube (if you don't count my GameBoy I had in College.) and we upgraded to the Wii. But I held off on the Wii U until they brought out Super Smash. For a Switch Pro, I hope there is a strong line-up of games to really make users want to upgrade to the new gear. But at the same time, want to have some extra life in the Switch OG. LOL.

RE:They need 4k/DLSS succession . . .

Yes. Isn't the Tegra X1 chip that is used in the Switch coming to the end of its life-cycle?

So I guess the question is . . . what replaces the Tegra X1 chip?

On the one hand, if there is still demand for the original Switch specs, it would be a shame not to maximize the installed user base. But as soon as the demand for the OG Switch specs has maxed out, it would be nice for Nintendo to have the Switch Pro waiting in the background, along with a strong library of games to really launch the Switch Pro.

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One day, atleast.

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