It's true. Nintendo wouldn't want to cannibalize the Switch's Holiday sales potential by announcing new hardware in 2023. Also, retailers need at least two months of lead time for preorders. So January would be the earliest we'd hear about this new hardware. And that's assuming the new hardware is in production as we speak.
If the new hardware isn't currently in production then lead time would be closer to six months.
Boy oh boy, I can't wait for the leaks off the production line.
@JaxonH They've done it with every brand new system so far, that the system is announced in some form by the final fiscal year shareholders meeting before its launch at the latest (even the 3DS had this with an announcement in March 2010 and the DS/Wii era is the closest success to the Switch era). Revisions are the only systems where Nintendo have just been able to announce a few months before launch.
So Grumble is expecting May's shareholder meeting to out the Switch successor like WB's shareholder meeting outed Mortal Kombat 12 before an official announcement.
The person has proven beyond doubt they are who they say they are, or at least have legitimate info (it's always possible they actually work at Gamefreak and intentionally lied about being at a contract studio to hide their trail).
Why do people do the things they do is a hard question to answer. Many reasons. Regardless, leaks have been a thing for a long time, and will continue to be. The motives don't need to be known. All we need to know is whether it's reliable.
This is fair, I still don't get it though. I mean if I was at GameFreak and I had outsourced this work I think it'd be pretty damn obvious where this leak had come from. Would be more than enough grounds to cancel the contract or at the very least reduce the amount of work you send their way. Probably even have the word spread around about it. Even if this specific employee didn't get immediately fired they could still find themselves out of work
Then again people do dumb things all the time. So I don't think we can rule out something someone has done just because of the complete and utter stupidity of it
I just think someone at the programming level has little to no insight into what would be management's final call.
Final call on what? If they are indeed working on a patch like this the only thing they wouldn't know would be the specific date of release. And even there there isn't that much wiggle room. If you're sending out dev kits for new hardware and getting outsource teams to develop for it? It's not years away. Also if you're patching a game that released last year for improved performance? There is only a certain window where it's even worth doing that. You probably wouldn't bother doing such a patch for Pokémon Legends: Arceus to release next year, as an example. There are certainly titles where you might (BotW would get one) but Pokemon ain't it
If all of this info is accurate it wouldn't really make sense for the new hardware to release in late 2024 for example. Because by then nobody is really going to be interested in Scarlet and Violet. In late 2024 people would instead be looking for a new entry. If this new hardware was releasing in 2025 or something there wouldn't be any reason to give this team new hardware dev kits. The lead time is just too great
@Magician Nintendo anouncing the Nintendo Switch sucessor during the shareholding meeting would not impact the Nintendo Switch holiday sales?also may is the release month of Legend of Zelda Tears of the Kingdom, i think is very unlikely Nintendo is gonna anounce the Switch sucessor during the shareholding meeting in may, they dont want to impact Legend of Zelda Tears of the Kingdom/Pikimin 4 sales and Switch holiday sales, is more likely they anounce the Switch sucessor in 2024 for a 2025/2026 launch.
With the wave 4 trailer saying "Wave 1-6 48 courses" (1:18 in the video) which it hasn't said before in previous trailers (before it was just "48 courses"), it's giving me more hope for a 2nd Booster Course Pass:
It would be something extremely special if MK8 lasts longer than GTAV.
jornalist/insider Jeff Grubb, has stated Nintendo will treat the sucessor of Nintendo Switch, the same way they treated Game Boy to Game Boy Color so a intermediate generation
@Giancarlothomaz I think Nintendo's days of a hard restart are over and each Switch will simply be an iteration much like iphones etc. No idea how they will market it, but it's probably not that meaningful anymore debating the difference between successor or intermediate pro.
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@GrailUK probably not that meaningful anymore debating the difference between successor or intermediate pro
Pretty much this
Nintendo has finally found their permanent end-game place in the market. From this point onward, expect new generations to entail another hybrid console with more power.
Call it a Pro, call it a Switch 2, call it whatever you want. Labels won't change what it is- a newer, more powerful Switch. Its still gonna play games on TV, handheld and tabletop. That's never going away. The one constant Nintendo knows is that portable Nintendo systems always sell, and hybrid Nintendo systems sell even better. So that's what they're going to continue doing.
It's now become an iterative game.
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@neonpizza
I know you're into super high framerates and all that, but Im telling you now, it's best to just forget about it.
Ain't gonna happen.
That's not Nintendo's focus, and likely will never be the remainder of our natural lives. If that is what you seek, best to look elsewhere. Expecting ultra-high framerates from a Nintendo hybrid is like expecting your next Honda Civic to have airplane wings.
Expect it to be exactly identical to Switch. 60 when the game can handle it, otherwise 30. The only difference is we should see fewer games struggling to hold base 30. That's it. Everything else will probably be exactly what we saw this generation.
The increase in power will be essentially spent running games of higher graphical fidelity, holding more stable framerates at 30 and 60, and increasing resolution. One need only look at PS4/X1/SD to get a rough approximation of what to expect. None of those systems are known for ultra-high framerates. They're known for 30fps gaming at 1080p for AAA, and 60fps 1080p for nearly everything else (720p for SD). In the rare case of a game being extremely undemanding, resolution is almost always increased beyond 1080p rather than framerate increased above 60.
My expectations are essentially what we see with SteamDeck. 720p locked 30-60 fps in handheld, 1080p locked 30-60 fps when docked, and in the best case scenario, maybe DLSS/FSR2.0 to upscale resolution when docked for notable releases.
100%, I've been saying this for years. Seems like the only reasonable way forward. The distinction between "successor" and "revision" is going to get real blurry. Though I think inevitably the marketing and perception of it is going to sway people one way or another. Because people like to categorise this kind of stuff
Kinda like how the Switch is not a home console or a portable, it's something different and also both. But people still for some reason want to force it into one of those two boxes. To the point where I suspect before the Switch Lite released there were probably still people out there wondering when a 3DS successor was going to release
In terms of marketing and things like backwards compatibility, I suspect they're going to want people to think that it is still "Switch"
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@Kermit1
It'll be like the DS line and branding which started with DS in 2004 and by the end we had New 2DS XL. 5 years from now we'll probably have a thread on here discussing the merits of the New Switch Lite OLED LR vs the New Switch OLED Mini.... or something. And the transition might even be more seamless than it was from DS to 3DS. Might literally be in this same thread
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@skywake I think Ninty will play it safe, I think they're done taking huge risks for now. If I had to bet on a name I'd pick Pro but I'm still not sure about that one.
@Kermit1
I would think in terms of name they're going to want something that clearly communicates what it is. If it's what I think it is that'll mean both convincing people it's worth upgrading to but without people thinking its an entirely new platform they'll need to invest into. Which are kinda conflicting messages and we've seen both successes and spectacular failures with it
The Wii U branding succeeded in convincing people it was still a Wii maybe too well. To the point where people just thought it was another Wii. On the other end, I think its amusing the GBC was mentioned on the previous page because I feel like the GB line was the most successful branding. If you had a GameBoy you wanted a GameBoy Color so you could play your games in Colour. Clear upgrade, clear branding. And when you looked at GB games? Well, you could see clearly that these games were only for GBC, these other games worked on GBC, these games were regular GB titles
The GBC is what I think they want to emulate in terms of branding. How they do that I don't know. Switch 4K? Switch HDR? I'm not so convinced. Switch 2 is kinda lame. New Switch kinda works I guess, Switch Pro also kinda works. I'm sure whatever they come up with will be lost in translation and we'll wonder what on earth they were thinking.... before, like the Wii, we get over how odd it sounds to say out loud
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