JaxonH is the kind of person who's continually optimistic and always finds something to get excited for, I've rarely if ever seen him criticize anything Nintendo's done.
I was surprised to see @JaxonH slagging off the new Pokemon games as it's unlike them so does that mean those games really are that bad or maybe his chipper side is covering a darker edge?
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While I certainly don't have a proclivity to complain, if you've never seen me criticize anything Nintendo's done, you've simply never spent much time in this forum, as anyone here can attest. I literally just complained about the price of Zelda 12 hrs ago, not that I need to submit a quota to prove legitimacy to you or anyone else.
It's a common tactic I've seen ppl use to try to relegate my opinions illegitimate (well if he never criticizes how can he be trusted?!) but it's just not the case.
When something truly upsets me, you'll hear about it. But 99% of the nitpicky nonsense most harp on about, you probably won't see me partaking in that.
Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions
Some people don't care to complain. Glass half full scenario...the pessimist sees one thing and the optimist another. I think a focus on what you enjoy is great.
Anybody know anything about Stolen Realm? It is in early access on steam but is coming to switch.
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Love this post. We should all now recognise and remember for evermore, the fallout from a Nintendo Direct is never over until Jaxon's brother has had his say.
@JaxonH Presumably in Metroid Prime Remastered, if you flick the right joy-con then the morph ball jumps...?
Hear hear! And thank goodness he told me that because I was genuinely kinda bummed out they came so close to nailing perfection, but couldn't quite get there. Come to find out, they did nail perfection, I just missed it was all.
Btw you don't flick the stick, you press X to jump in Morph ball mode (only works once you acquire the Morph ball bomb). This was a nice hack Dolphin added so it's cool seeing it in the official remaster.
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I wouldn't say "bad", but... the performance definitely soured me on them. I'm sure they're perfectly fine games underneath. But until they're patched up, I have too many other, better, higher quality games on the menu.
There's sooooo many masterpiece titles dropping lately (Xenoblade 3, Portal Collection, Splatoon 3, Nier Automata, Persona 4 Golden, Persona 5 Royal, Crisis Core FFVII, Fire Emblem Engage, Metroid Prime Remaster, etc etc). Who has time for mediocrity and/or games struggling to hit bare minimum expectations of performance? Not I.
Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions
Depends on your definition. In terms of sales/marketing, Labor Day is generally considered the end of Summer, so Nintendo would probably regard September as Fall.
regarding Prime 2, I figure that if Nintendo announced it in the Direct as a separate release from the shadow dropped Prime 1 then the release would be overshadowed by backlash over pricing. Kind of like what happened to Tropical Freeze.
They don't seem to care that much. I mean, they already bumped up TotK to $70.
As for announcement strategy, in 2018 where the first half of the year was very port/remaster heavy they got the ports out of the way first with a January Direct Mini and then did a March general Direct with a heavier focus on new stuff. If Pikmin 4 is the last new game of 2023, I could see them just announcing each unannounced 2023 game separately and have a Partner Showcase for June.
Sure, that sounds viable too.
Larger point is having only 1 unannounced 1st party game shadow dropped after the Direct strongly implies they have next to nothing else planned for the year and development is shifting to next gen. If you plan on supporting the Switch for another 2+ years I don't think you can leave the schedule this open, this is a Wii U tier schedule and they're not going to be able to sustain interest in the Switch for much longer with that kind of lineup (that's a large part of the reason the Wii U flopped). If they were still making games for the Switch we'd probably see another game announced for Spring and something announced for September. Instead, the light schedule seems to be signaling that next gen is on the horizon, I'd be shocked if we get to the end of the year and we don't hear something from Nintendo about next gen (bare minimum a statement "We're making new hardware codenamed ____").
I don’t think the shadow drop of Prime is a hint in any way that we’re getting a switch 2 this year.
It’s been suspected to have been “ready” for a while now. More likely the sudden shadow drop is about spacing out Metroid releases into separate financial years. Prime 4 could be a winter release or March 2024 (which would work with a Switch 2 release better than winter 23).
I really wish Nintendo would port the Mario and Luigi games over to the switch, I only tried one of them and I loved it so much, why did it have to go the way it did. And it sucks because they just can’t port them, they used the ds double screen, and alpha dream is gone so I’m not sure they can just remake it, sigh.
@Bolt_Strike While I agree that the Direct implicates that new hardware is coming sooner rather than later, calling the currently known 2023 lineup a "Wii U tier schedule" is a gross over exaggeration and you know it.
A Wii U tier schedule would have massive gaps in between 1st party releases with literally nothing but a handful of indies in between. That's what a Wii U tier schedule is.
There's at least one 1st party release every month through July with the lone exception of June (and that may very well be filled) and plenty of 3rd party releases and indies in between, including an exclusive with Disney Illusion Island (and I think Rain Code is also exclusive?). A Wii U tier schedule this is not.
As for what's coming after July? I suspect it's almost entirely remasters/remakes, which Nintendo may feel don't need to be revealed yet because they don't need a big marketing cycle.
It's not really uncommon to start a year and have no idea what new projects Nintendo has cooking for the latter half, or for a Direct to laser focus on games releasing in a specific part of the year. This has happened several times over the lifespan of the system, in fact. And I've heard this exact same argument made before as evidence of upcoming hardware. Humans are good at cherry-picking evidence to support pre-supposed intuitions.
Which isn't to say that new hardware isn't coming sooner than later, because of course it is. Switch is pretty old at this point, and Nintendo isn't generally known for dragging out console lifecycles in the first place. But nothing about that Direct, in and of itself, would make a relatively unbiased observer think that new hardware was imminent.
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@Ralizah Agreed, not saying Nintendo isn't looking to the future but they usually keep game releases close to the vest until they are close to launch (within several months as opposed to years) except their huge flagships and that is likely only to stay in front of leaks. If they could have gotten away with it we would hear about TotK for the first time next month in its own direct. I like their approach as it keeps me engaged in their ecosystem while I have to play catch up with the others because I forget what is on the way because it is so far out. That being said I think they are trying to close out a lot of lingering projects first, likely to free up more dev teams. Not for successor persay but to get more projects in the pipeline.
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Nothing screams the end like a brand new Fire Emblem, brand new Zelda, brand new Pikmin, Metroid Prime Remake, Advance Wars Remake, expanded content Kirby remaster and expansion pass content for Xenoblade, Mario Kart, Fire Emblem and Splatoon all in a 6 month window.
If only Wii U could have spelled it out for us this plainly we wouldn't have been caught so off guard by the Switch's announcement
To be clear: Nintendo obviously probably hasn't greenlit any brand new first-party projects for the system in a couple of years (with the exception of cross-gen stuff). What's in the making is almost undeniably all there is for this console.
That said, as @Ryu_Niiyama said, Nintendo likes to hold its cards close to its chest for everything but the biggest games. And sometimes even the biggest games. I went into 2018 knowing very little about what Nintendo's first-party plans for the console were. Yet, in less than a year, Super Smash Bros. Ultimate was announced and released.
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I don’t think the shadow drop of Prime is a hint in any way that we’re getting a switch 2 this year.
It’s been suspected to have been “ready” for a while now. More likely the sudden shadow drop is about spacing out Metroid releases into separate financial years. Prime 4 could be a winter release or March 2024 (which would work with a Switch 2 release better than winter 23).
You're not understanding the argument, I'm not saying that the Prime 1 remaster is evidence of next gen hardware, I'm saying the lack of any new 1st party games EXCEPT the Prime 1 remaster is evidence of next gen hardware. The only games coming in the first half of the year are ones we already knew about + Prime 1 remaster, and there seems to be little scheduled for the second half of 2023 and beyond besides DLC.
Nothing screams the end like a brand new Fire Emblem, brand new Zelda, brand new Pikmin, Metroid Prime Remake, Advance Wars Remake, expanded content Kirby remaster and expansion pass content for Xenoblade, Mario Kart, Fire Emblem and Splatoon all in a 6 month window.
If only Wii U could have spelled it out for us this plainly we wouldn't have been caught so off guard by the Switch's announcement
Okay, first of all Zelda and Advance Wars were not originally scheduled for this time period, they were delayed multiple years. Metroid Prime remaster probably was not either, it was probably delayed until now because of the Prime 4 restart. What's left is Fire Emblem, Pikmin, a Kirby remaster (relatively low effort) and a bunch of DLC (also relatively low effort). That's not that much.
Furthermore, it's 2H 2023 and 2024 that are more questionable. Can they provide a similarly packed lineup as 1H 2023? I highly doubt it. They've tended to give us a sneak peek at 1 or 2 titles in the 2H lineup this time of year, they didn't this time. And I doubt they're suddenly giving us a blowout of 2H titles in June considering that when they're not at E3, they keep their mouth shut in the Summer and leave us hanging until September. If they're not willing to show us any surprises now, they probably have little to none of them period.
To be clear: Nintendo obviously probably hasn't greenlit any brand new first-party projects for the system in a couple of years (with the exception of cross-gen stuff). What's in the making is almost undeniably all there is for this console.
I'm not sure if by "greenlit" you're referring to projects that they may have started on in say, 2019-2021 that they haven't announced yet, I would guess by now that there's little left for the Switch (again, besides cross-gen stuff) that they haven't announced yet. It's important to remember that some of the projects we've been getting lately are games that they've announced several years before. We've known about TotK since 2019 and it kept getting delayed. Splatoon 3 was announced February 2021. Advance Wars was meant for 2021 and delayed all the way until April 2023. Prime 4 was restarted in 2019 and still isn't out, and Prime Remastered was rumored for years and probably delayed as a consequence of Prime 4's restart. Most of this was probably started on before the pandemic and intended to release at least a year or two sooner than it did. The recent lineup would look a lot more dire than it does if it weren't for delays, and I think the delays are hiding just how little they've actually been working on for this period. Probably most of what they started on in 2020/2021 is next gen/cross gen stuff at this point.
That said, as @Ryu_Niiyama said, Nintendo likes to hold its cards close to its chest for everything but the biggest games. And sometimes even the biggest games. I went into 2018 knowing very little about what Nintendo's first-party plans for the console were. Yet, in less than a year, Super Smash Bros. Ultimate was announced and released.
Bad example, as Smash Ultimate was first teased around this time of year (technically it was in March, but that Direct was analogous to the one we just got for this year). It's pretty much too late for that kind of announcement. At this point the only hope is for more of a Metroid Dread situation, but I'm doubtful of that happening for two reasons:
1. We already knew there were games coming in late 2021/2022 and beyond going in to that E3 with games like (what we now know as) TotK, Splatoon 3, and Prime 4 on the horizon. Here we just have Prime 4, but with just 1 you have to question if it just won't be a cross gen game.
2. Nintendo actually had an E3 presentation that year, whereas there's rumors that we won't this year, and the other years they didn't attend E3 (2020 and 2022) they didn't have a main Direct or presentation at all (just game specific Directs and Partner Showcases).
@Bolt_Strike I understand your argument - I just think it’s flawed. If Nintendo has nothing to anchor Switch’s 2023 Christmas on then a fairly good remaster of one of their most critically acclaimed games is the sort of thing they might have held back and used as a crutch. Especially since they have so many games in the first half of this year.
Releasing it now is either a statement of confidence or being done for other purposes in their release schedule. I simply think it has more to say about the release schedule of Metroid as an IP and spacing things out optimally than it does about hardware (though the two may obviously be linked).
Counting Metroid 2 on NSO we got two Metroid games on the same day. We’re getting Fusion and Zero mission this year. Prime 4 is coming at some point - best it doesn’t arrive to ‘Samus fatigue”
On confirmation it has gyro, downloading the Metroid Prime Remaster. Seriously though, the visual upgrade is pretty solid regardless. I was going to cave eventually! There's only so much emulation alone can do to push Wii/GC titles
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