@Grumblevolcano I feel like they would've announced SMO 2 around the same time as TotK.
@IceClimbers BotW didn't use things like HD rumble, and HD rumble could be used for potential puzzles.
Also, as for Mario Odyssey, I can't say I enjoyed it. I played through it twice, and both times I've had this off feeling about the game. It feels soulless in a way to me, which is weird, given it's doing stuff that Mario hasn't done before. I just don't feel impressed when I play it, and I'd much rather they move on to something new.
"It is fate. Many have tried, yet none have ever managed to escape it's flow."
Here is an excellent video providing a series history lesson of Intelligent Systems' Fire Emblem, from the early NES days of Famicom Wars all the way to today.
Fans of the series may be interested in watching, but I actually think non-fans might get the most out of this. If you're simply curious about Fire Emblem, aren't buying Engage or aren't that familiar with the series as a whole, and are simply interested in learning about its rich history dating back 30+ years all the way to Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light in 1990, this is for you.
Fire Emblem is actually one of the longest running video game series of all time, believe it or not. It's as old as Zelda and Metroid. One of the original trailblazers in the NES era, and every bit as good as Zelda and Metroid.
Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions
Zachariah 12:10 (500 yrs before Christ)
They will look on Me whom they pierced
@VoidofLight Mario announcement cycles are shorter than Zelda. The longest announcement to release cycle for Mario seems to be 1.5 years (E3 2011 to Wii U launch for NSMBU) with most cycles being less than a year.
@Bolt_Strike, @Grumblevolcano, @VoidLight e @JaxonH we dont have a brand new 2D Legend of Zelda game since Link Between World, a new 2D Legend of Zelda could be intereting for the Switch sucessor and also a new Donkey Kong game(2D/3D)
Persona 4 Golden and Persona 3 Portable aren’t midnight releases. I checked the eshop (it’s past midnight in the UK) and they’re not available for purchase yet.
I'll keep holding to my prediction that the next 3D Mario is going to a launch or at least launch year exclusive for the next system, and it will be an open-world collect-a-thon that'll really show off the technical capabilities of their new console. Bowser's Fury just seemed too ambitious and different to be a one-off bit of software designed to push a port of a Wii U Mario game: I think it's a proof-of-concept for the next main entry.
Currently Playing: Metroid Prime 4: Beyond (NS2); Corpse Factory (PC)
Wow. For perspective, here are the best selling consoles/handhelds in the US for the last few decades...
Not only does Switch boast the longest streak, it also boasts the most years as #1
Yet we will continue to watch gaming media and gamers at large conveniently ignore this as if Switch isn't still, even after a half decade of wearing the crown, the most popular video game console in the world. "sWiTcH 2 iS nEeDeD nOw"
Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions
Zachariah 12:10 (500 yrs before Christ)
They will look on Me whom they pierced
@Ralizah completely agree with you, Bowser Fury seen to me like a test how the next 3D Mario could be, @JaxonH dont knowleged Nintendo Switch as the best selling hardware on USA, because the gamer media/gamers in general are biased toward Nintendo(they have that backward sterotype notion, Nintendo consoles is only for kiddys and Nintendo only release Legend of Zelda/Mario games, and also the media like big triple AAA cinematic games, of course there some exceptions to this notions)
@Giancarlothomaz@VoidofLight It makes sense, considering the existence of Bowser's Fury in the first place, and how Nintendo has largely embraced the shift to open world game design in their other big exclusive series.
It'll be a good way to flex the stronger hardware, too, as even Bowser's Fury often stressed the Switch out to be the point where, if I recall correctly, the framerate was halved when the system was undocked.
@JaxonH It is pretty wild how institutional the bias against Nintendo seems to be within this industry. Despite increasing popularity and sales for a variety of series associated with the Switch, so many publications and large "influencer" types just straight up ignore anything on the console that's not Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, or the random breakthrough indie title. If you're a big Nintendo fan, you wind up in this sort of cultural bubble that's largely divorced from the rest of the industry.
With that said, I do think Nintendo has made substantial movement toward escaping this ghetto they've been trapped within for decades, and judging by much of the largely irrational hatred the Switch receives from some corners, it's making the right people uncomfortable.
Currently Playing: Metroid Prime 4: Beyond (NS2); Corpse Factory (PC)
@JaxonH Wow, this list is fascinating. In particular:
GB, a decade old system, being top-seller in 1999 and 2000. I guess Pokemon and (to a lesser extent) the Gameboy Color are to thank for that.
GBA outselling the PS2 at some point. Especially in 2004, the release year of the DS.
DS and 3DS being top-sellers in 2009-10 and 2013, respectively. These were times when most of the talk in the gaming sphere was about PS and Xbox as far as I remember (especially in 2013).
360 being on top in 2011-12. I thought by this point PS3 had taken over - but Europe and Japan may have been more responsible for this than the US.
@Ralizah I've noted this bias for a while tbh - but it's especially enlightening to see that, for the majority of years since 1995, Nintendo has had the best-selling system (whereas Xbox, one of the "big" two, has had that privilege for <10% of the time). I wouldn't be surprised, if you pooled all systems by company, to see that Nintendo makes it out on top for pretty much every year. Yet you're right - Nintendo historically haven't been given the same consideration as their competitors for the best part of two decades.
I guess there are several contributors to this: in part Nintendo's own culture of differentiating themselves from the crowd (incl. chasing the casual market with the Wii and DS), the relative success of their handheld consoles (despite these often being top-sellers, the industry as a whole seems more interested in "cutting-edge" home console experiences), and their flagship consoles having fallen back in favour relative to the competition (usually Playstation) on several occasions (N64, Gamecube, Wii U). I think the handheld factor is the one that's still somewhat relevant to this day, but is also a big factor in the Switch's runaway success. It's why we simultaneously have one of Nintendo's most successful consoles ever with a very vocal minority of people begging for a more powerful hardware update.
@JaxonH I think Switch would continue the streak if Switch 2 doesn’t get announced this year (as in no 2023 announcement + release or 2023 announcement + 2024 release) given Switch is the only current system where no FIFA or CoD means nothing for system sales potential.
I feel like I'm in the minority but have absolutely no need for a Switch 2 in the near future. The Switch era has been an absolute blast and I still have so many games I want to play or need to finish, and i'm already itching for a replay of some of my favourites. Mind, I have never particularly cared about graphics in terms of specs, I just want polish and style and Nintendo still provides that more than its competitors, perhaps because of the restricition in specs. A game like BOTW is already aging more gracefully IMO than its more realistic counterparts. (Kant already said it is the resistance that makes a dove soar).
I know it is antithetical to the consumption standard of our time, but I mostly welcome the longer lifespan of the consoles.
@Buizel I agree that the ghetto they're in is one of their own making. And, to some extent, they'll always keep the elements that help distinguish them from the competition. And that's not necessarily a bad thing. Switch is rapidly becoming the one console platform that's worth owning if you also maintain a decent gaming PC, for example.
I do think the handheld factor is a huge element to it, since so many people in the industry have a sort of ingrained bias toward home console experiences. Aside from the Wii, handheld consoles are primarily how people experienced Nintendo's games for decades. And they're super popular. But there's this cultural association of portable consoles with children and casual play. It's likely a big reason why the explosion in mobile gaming poached a huge chunk of the casual audience between the NDS and the 3DS.
Ironically, as you mentioned, the hybrid factor of the Switch is also now what's helping them become more relevant to the wider industry, and what, alongside their own popular games, will help protect their space in the market going forward.
@gcunit Admittedly, the 360 was a great console. The one great Xbox home console, in my opinion. The XSS/XSX are less embarrassing than the Bone, but they still haven't come close to regaining their old mojo. Thankfully for Xbox fans, Microsoft is a gigantic company that is at no risk of going down if they wind up in third place again.
@Suicune I think this is probably a historical first instance where someone has name-dropped Immanuel Kant in a discussion about Nintendo consoles. Congratulations!
Anyway, having just recently purchased a SWOLED, I'd be OK with them putting off a new generation for a few more years, but, from a business perspective, they won't want their momentum to bottom out before transitioning people over. Transitioning too early risk destroying their current momentum, though, which they're likely also wary of. I have to imagine they have analysts watching the market like a hawk as they figure out the best time to launch new hardware.
@Ralizah just trying to take this conversation to a transcendental level. No, I'm kidding, name dropping is mostly a bit annoying, but it's the final year of my philosophy degree and it has been so intense my conversation skills have basically regressed to just that
@SlashFuture Yes, me too. Especially since the SWOLED I bought still feels like magic as a predominantly handheld player.
Despite so much criticism and kerfuffle being made of Switch "not being powerful enough for games to look/run well", I see the exact opposite. Now, more than ever, I feel Switch is capable and producing some of the finest games of its generation.
Consider the following games of the past year:
Triangle Strategy
Kirby Forgotten Land
Nintendo Switch Sports
Zombie Army 4
Portal 1/2
Fire Emblem Warriors: Three Hopes
Xenoblade Chronicles 3
Tony Hawk Pro Skater 1/2
Neon White
Olli Olli World
Monster Hunter Rise Sunbreak
Splatoon 3
Persona 5 Royal
Nier Automata
Bayonetta 3
Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Dragon Quest Treasures
Mario Rabbids Sparks of Hope
Fire Emblem Engage
Octopath Traveler II
This is just a highlight reel, but it amply demonstrates how excellent Switch games tend to look and run nowadays. All of these games are stunning on Switch- no crushed resolutions, no severe framerate issues, and all of them look even better on the OLED. These games tell a story- "Switch is in its prime and games have never looked better". The exact opposite of the narrative gaming media tries so hard to portray.
Granted. There are examples of Switch games with disappointing visual fidelity and performance. By no means am I implying otherwise. We've all seen Pokemon Scarlet/Violet framerate issues. We've all heard the endless criticism of Arceus graphics (though personally I find the game looks pretty decent), and every other month or so there's a 3rd party game that bites off more than it can chew, or the devs don't even try to optimize, and they just throw a half baked version onto the eShop. The recent Dark Souls clone comes to mind. But, these games are the exception rather than the rule. Spending 95% of one's attention and focus on the extreme minority, ignoring the masses of high quality, victorious Switch titles, will never make sense to me. And that's true not just in a macro sense but micro as well. Media will nitpick a single minute shortcoming or flaw, and spend the vast majority of their time complaining about it while ignoring the 99% of the game thats amazing.
I am definitely hyped for Switch 2. It's gonna be so good! But until that day comes, Switch is consistently producing banger after banger after banger. The overwhelming majority of which offer satisfactory visuals and performance. It almost reminds me of how a kid constantly obsesses about growing up to the point they let their own childhood pass them by. So focused on the future, blinded to what's right in front of them. We're in the pinnacle of Switch's lifespan. Just enjoy it.
Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions
Zachariah 12:10 (500 yrs before Christ)
They will look on Me whom they pierced
Now that I have a proper controller, I find myself playing my Switch alot more. It's amazing how just by getting a controller increases my want to play the Switch.
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