Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

@JaxonH WHAT? Switch momentum was slowing down due to the chip shortage,but in 2020 Switch have it best year in renevue, how is this possible? will this increase in Switch production not impact it sucessor launch? Nikkei even stated Nintendo seen to have begun the production of Switch sucessor, all of this dont aling, how can the sucessor of Switch only release in 2025, if Nintendo is asking for them supliers to begin the production of Switch sucessor?

I think the story is potentially a bit more complicated than this. For one I'm not entirely sure the Switch has been particularly supply constrained, maybe I'm out of the loop but I don't really recall many stories of people not being able to get Switch hardware. Certainly not to the extent of the PS5 or GPUs. I mean in 2021 they basically moved more Switch than all of the other consoles combined

As I said in the other thread I think the supply constraints for Switch, to the extent they have existed, have presented themselves to consumers more as a stubbornly stable price point and the value-added OLED SKU. What I suspect this ramp up in production signals is that yes, supply constraints have eased but they'll want to fill in that extra supply with price cuts and/or new SKUs

I also think we need to be open to the possibility that this ramp up IS for new hardware. I'd argue it's still entirely possible that when new hardware releases it'll also be "Switch" and not a new platform. Until we see factory leaks and/or hear confirmation and/or time passes and nothing happens? We have no idea

@Giancarlothomaz
I mean it could, but it would be hard to beat Majora’s Mask. That game is messed up when you think about it.

@skywake I think it's safe to say it's the OG / OLED Switch guys. Might be limited editions for Zelda and Pikmin.

@GrailUK
If I was betting on it I'd put money on an OLED Lite/Mini and a price cut for 2023. New hardware in 2024. But either way, we have no idea at this point. It could simply be nothing new at all and no price change but just an expected bump in sales off the back of a solid software line-up

@skywake Software sells consoles. And they do have a beaut lined up for later this year

@skywake
It was

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/04/tech/nintendo-switch-earnings-...

https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/3/23290085/nintendo-switch-q1...

When they downgraded their forecast from 21m to 19m, they attributed this to the chip shortage. They even told investors this. Of course, most people just refused to believe them and assumed they were making excuses for declining demand... clearly, were telling the truth, as this recent increase ramping up supply demonstrates.

And it is for current Switch. That's not to say another revision couldn't release that boosts sales, but if that's the case, it's still Switch, regardless of variant or model.

@SlashFuture
We do have an idea. The ramp up is for current Switch. They specifically stated current Switch will increase production. There is no new hardware involved. At least, not a successor. Translation: we could see a Lite OLED model or some other in-family revision, but this is not for "new hardware" outside of the Switch family.

And the reason we know this, beyond simple context, is the fact they also stated if demand turns out not being as strong as suspected, they will simply downgrade forecasts later.

@skywake in severals financials reports, Shuntaro Furukawa stated the chip shortage impacted Nintendo Switch and they are trying to find solution, to avoid a drastic slowdown on Switch sales momentum, the chip shortage impacted everyone not just Nintendo, Sony e Microsoft, only now Jim Ryan has stated they managed to normalize the problem with chip shortage, PS5 was suffering since it launch in novembre 2020, @JaxonH also Nintendo can adjust it sales forecast, if Nintendo Switch didnt meet they sale forecast, is better to set a realistic sale forecast like 15 milions consoles sold this fiscal year, then set a unrealistic sale forecast such as 20/25 milions hardware sold this fiscal year, @Slashfuture, or we could see the long rumored Switch Pro releasing this year(hopefully not, i tired of this Switch Pro bull☆☆☆hit

@skywake An OLED Lite would make sense. Or even a home-only device. I don't see them cutting the price of the base unit, though. Not when it's still selling like this.

@FragRed that statistic of course doesn’t include Japanese devs and it has been pretty steady in that range for the past 5 years. So if the current switch library is what several years of devs at GDC saying only 20-18% are working on games then switch will be fine. Some devs just have no interest in switch/Nintendo and if the steady sales and large install base doesn’t sway them not much else will. Gamers try to hang everything on hardware but devs have biases like everyone else. And if they feel their bread is buttered no matter what they aren’t going to change those biases unless forced. Many devs don’t care about having their game available in as many places as possible. Many simply want to build an ecosystem around their game rooted in what system they like to dev for and then have that ecosystem keep churning sales.

Ok... wow.

There's a new Fire Emblem style srpg releasing in February from the producer (or was it director? I can't remember) of Fire Emblem Path of Radiance

It seems much darker and grittier, with pretty high quality graphics for the genre.

But ya. If this is from the guy who made Fire Emblem Path of Radiance, I'm all over it.

And yes, it's coming to Switch also.

Redemption Reapers is backed by industry talent, including Fire Emblem series director and Kingdom Hearts III alum Masayuki Horikawa. The voice talent brings a similar catalog of experience, with Kyle McCarley (NieR: Automata), Allegra Clark (Dragon Age: Inquisition), David Lodge (Persona 5), and Lucien Dodge (Fire Emblem: Three Houses) all on board the project

And some character intros

@JaxonH i dint liked how gritty and bloody this game tone and look is, i tired of all games aiming for gritty/mature look, why cant we have more cheerful games, 98% of the games released in the game industry, is this bloody, gritty/mature tone

@Giancarlothomaz Lucky for you, Fire Emblem Engage is EXACTLY what you're looking for, in that case.

^^^
What they said.

We got you covered Giancarlos. Here ya go...

@JaxonH nice, now turn Legend of Zelda Tears of the Kingdom into Legend of Zelda happyness abound

So it was a week or so ago that I finished Fire Emblem Echoes. I've since transitioned over to Stella Glow, also on the 3DS, and only plan on interrupting that when Fire Emblem Engage arrives.

Looks like I've found a new favorite genre, lol.

@Ralizah
I love Stella Glow. It's an underrated gem.

But ya, I've grown rather bored of turn based JRPGs. They just... don't keep me engaged anymore. Too simple. Too basic.

Srpgs are the cure. Still turn based, but positioning on an XY plane with attack ranges makes things so much more interesting.

After jumping back into Fire Emblem Three Houses (Blue Lions playthrough), and then jumping back into Fire Emblem Fates and starting a Revelations playthrough, only stopping when Fire Emblem Engage released...

The genre hits hard. Still need to get back to Mario Rabbids Sparks of Hope and finish Triangle Strategy. Maybe after Fire Emblem (on second thought... nahhh, I'll probably just go back to Fates and Three Houses).

Lots of strategy games have filled the gap caused by Advance Wars’ indefinite delay over the past year. I do sometimes wonder if Nintendo’s just going to cancel that game if it’s not in the next Direct.

when do you expect Nintendo will release the sucessor of Nintendo Switch?
this year
early 2024
holiday 2024
2025/2026
Nintendo Switch will be Nintendo eternal hardware
when it demand slow down
my bet is that Nintendo is gonna launch the Switch sucessor in holiday 2025, early 2026 at the lastest, please everyone make your bets, when you believe Nintendo will launch it sucessor.

@Giancarlothomaz Mid to late 2025. The Switch would be discontinued 3-5 years later, but that’s just hopeful thinking.