@gcunit
What I meant by cost is in terms of hardware. There's "VR" and then there's VR VR. Proper VR demands high refresh rate preferably OLED screens sitting behind decent lenses in a headset that can be tracked in 3D space. Ideally also with a pair of controllers that can do the same. It's well within reach but it wouldn't also be a portable console like the Switch
The way I see it there are two ways it could happen. It's either an accessory for Switch in a similar way to Playstation VR, if it was this the VR headset would pretty much be the same price as the Switch itself. Not really an easy sell, I don't think this makes sense. Alternatively they go the Quest route and do an all-in-one unit. Which could work and could possibly even dock but.... you'd lose portable play
I think VR on Nintendo will remain in the form of LABO VR for a while yet
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With Pokemon released, the rest of the year seems to be being announced now. I'd imagine this week we'd get a Mario Strikers update announcement too (Mario Sports appears to be 3 waves so that'll probably be the last one). So far we've got:
People keep misunderstanding me in the comment, I don’t agree with emulating games just because there on another console like ps5 or Xbox, you can still buy those, pe4 as well, things that you can buy for normal prices. Older games you just can’t get, gba, wii, all that stuff, if Nintendo allowed you to play them on the switch like Xbox does banjo then I would also a agree your stealing it if you can buy it.
I’m only talking about games you just can’t buy without paying for anoverpriced console and game, that’s all.
I edited my comment so there is hopefully no more misunderstandings.
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Loving how good Fire Emblem Engage is looking. That attention to detail with even the smallest animations....
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@JaxonH Wow, I hadn't seen that trailer anywhere yet. I really like how detailed the battle cutscene environments are in this one. I had also forgotten how close we are to this release. I'm really pumped to see how the new gimmick fits into the equation as well as some of the map movements/attacks that were shown.
I think Ubisoft must've seen all those "I'll wait for the inevitable 30% off sale during Black Friday" comments for Sparks Of Hope because I haven't seen it on sale at all. 22% off the Gold Edition on the eShop, but that's about it.
@IceClimbers
I noticed that too. They're holding their ground firm on this one. And tbh... as they should. The game is fire. It shouldn't need an orange clearance sticker a month after launch to sell.
Fire Emblem Engage is sneaking up quick, but even more so is Final Fantasy VII Crisis Core.
I want to see Final Fantasy smash on Switch. All this buying up exclusivity to keep the franchise away from Switch and Xbox gamers, and even PC gamers for a time. I want this game to sell so well on Switch it costs Sony twice as much for exclusivity on the next game.
Unfortunately it seems the game is going under most peoples' radar. The Switch port looks incredible, yet it's barely at #1,000 on the Amazon rankings. What gives. Do ppl want higher budget day and date Final Fantasy on Switch or not?
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Unfortunately it seems the game is going under most peoples' radar. The Switch port looks incredible, yet it's barely at #1,000 on the Amazon rankings. What gives. Do ppl want higher budget day and date Final Fantasy on Switch or not?
I imagine part of it is that the marketing has been tied heavily into their overall Final Fantasy VII remake marketing and the various other stuff that's come out surrounding that. And since this is the one game Switch is getting out of any of that, I'm just not sure there's a huge audience for this remake of a PSP game on a Nintendo console.
...on the other hand, apparently most of the marketing for Neo: The World Ends With You in Japan was for the PS4 version, for some reason. I'm undecided if that's more hypocritical or makes complete sense considering Neo's apparent failure to sell.
@skywake when i meant the next inovation Nintendo is planing for Switch sucessor i was refering VR VR like PS4 or PS5 Vr2 for the Switch sucessor, specially if Switch sucessor have a techinal/graphical power equivalent or more to a PS4, like Switch sucessor techinal/graphical power is PS4+++ just like Switch techinal/graphical power is Xbox 360+++
@kkslider5552000
Not sure why there wouldn't be a market. Nintendo fans been buying and playing Final Fantasy for a long time, and all the other releases sold incredibly well on the system given their age.
The game does not require knowledge from other games- on the contrary its a prequel, and enjoyable in it's own right as much as any other game in the series.
It also looks very good. This is the ideal Final Fantasy for Switch. Graphically it gives FFVII Remake a run for its money despite not even being a full remake, yet isn't so graphically intense it needs severe cutbacks on Switch.
Like... this is as good as it gets. There's no reason there wouldn't be a market. Just because Sony tries to pretend they own the franchise by bribing as many games as possible, they don't. It's a series for everyone, and this is a perfect game to signal that to them.
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This is the ideal Final Fantasy for Switch. Graphically it gives FFVII Remake a run for its money despite not even being a full remake, yet isn't so graphically intense it needs severe cutbacks on Switch.
In what universe does this game look better than FFVII Remake?
Anyway, FF7 EU stuff has never been as popular as the main game (same reason Pokemon and Monster Hunter spinoffs struggle to sell a fraction as well as the mainline entries, I imagine). And this particular subseries is HEAVILY associated with Playstation anyway. It makes sense this game would be more popular in the ecosystem where people also have access to Remake and (soon) Rebirth.
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God so loved the world He sent His only Son- whoever believes on Him has eternal life. Unless you believe, you will die in your sins. Whoever believes, rivers of living water flow within them. John
@Ralizah
Also I don't care about "popularity on PS". Let it be popular on PS. That's fine and well. But what I'm referring to is popularity on Switch and among Nintendo fans, which is a completely separate discussion to popularity elsewhere.
Spinoff or not, it still sold VERY well on its original release. Nobody's expecting it to do as well as the mainline series. But I'd certainly expect it to do far better than #1000 on Amazon US when the game is mere weeks away. We're not talking about a Chocobo Racer or Dungeon crawler, or even a mobile game ported over like FFXV. This is a core series genre entry. Just because it's not a perfect whole number doesn't change that.
This is a massive release. It's not some cheap HD remaster that still looks like a PS2 game like FFX or FFXII. This is bordering a full remake, with visuals that look about as good as Switch can handle, and at a glance not all that different from the AAA release of FFVII Remake. It's dropping day and date, and ties into the story of the single biggest FF entry of the entire series, which is relevant as ever.
You'd expect a bit more than, "eh, it's not 'associated' with Nintendo due to marketing bribes and exclusivity decades ago and isn't a whole number entry so who cares"
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God so loved the world He sent His only Son- whoever believes on Him has eternal life. Unless you believe, you will die in your sins. Whoever believes, rivers of living water flow within them. John
Yeah I don't think there's a huge audience for Crisis Core on Switch unless you're a Final Fantasy diehard who only has Nintendo, which in 2022 is probably not a huge audience.
Which again, should I be angry at the hypocrisy or did SE actually learn a thing from Neo's bad marketing? Or the more likely third option, they're just expecting a relatively small amount of easy money from a port of this, while their focus is on Harvestella and Octopath 2 for Switch audiences.
@gcunit
What I meant by cost is in terms of hardware. There's "VR" and then there's VR VR. Proper VR demands high refresh rate preferably OLED screens sitting behind decent lenses in a headset that can be tracked in 3D space. Ideally also with a pair of controllers that can do the same. It's well within reach but it wouldn't also be a portable console like the Switch
The way I see it there are two ways it could happen. It's either an accessory for Switch in a similar way to Playstation VR, if it was this the VR headset would pretty much be the same price as the Switch itself. Not really an easy sell, I don't think this makes sense. Alternatively they go the Quest route and do an all-in-one unit. Which could work and could possibly even dock but.... you'd lose portable play
I think VR on Nintendo will remain in the form of LABO VR for a while yet
Just for clarity, I've never even considered Nintendo going for the additional hardware VR route. I'm talking utilising the slot-in convenience and cost efficiency of using the Switch tablet, exactly as with LABO VR. There'd be peripheral head strap options, of course, but the USP would be no additional significant outlay for the customer.
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@kkslider5552000
Why would you have to be a Final Fantasy diehard? And why would you have to only have a Switch?
The game is appealing to anyone who likes JRPGs, and there's a LOT of JRPG fans on Switch. Why would this be any different than any other quality JRPG?
And why would Switch-only gamers be the only ones interested? That makes no sense to me at all. If anything this game looks the same on Switch as every other platform barring resolution. It should be the definitive version for anyone except those who don't own a Switch. I can understand games like Witcher 3 that are heavily downgraded but this looks practically built ground up for Switch, and simply tacked on other versions cause they can run it also.
I can't comprehend why anyone would think this game is "niche". Like, it's the tie in for the biggest JRPG release of all time. If even Persona 5 Strikers, a Warriors spinoff that wasn't even a turn based JRPG and tied into the story as a sequel to Persona 5, a series half as popular as Final Fantasy, can do well on Switch, I see no reason a day and date near-remake of the prequel to Final Fantasy VII wouldn't easily be the best selling FF on the system to date.
All have sinned and fall short of Gods glory. Wages of sin is death. Romans
God so loved the world He sent His only Son- whoever believes on Him has eternal life. Unless you believe, you will die in your sins. Whoever believes, rivers of living water flow within them. John
@JaxonH Seems I misread that portion of your post. Apologies.
Anyway, the lack of interest in the Switch port shouldn't be a mystery. Interest in this remake is limited to begin with, which means only a fraction of the FF7 fandom will be buying in, and of the fraction that is interested, most will likely maintain a heavy preference for Playstation and Sony's gaming ecosystem overall.
Moreover, the entire modern subseries is available on Playstation consoles vs. only Reunion being available on Switch. If you care about this series, it's highly likely you already own and play games on a Playstation console.
Sony's exclusivity antics don't really mean anything with regard to FF7 on Nintendo consoles in general. A major reason that the original didn't release on N64 was because Nintendo opted for cartridges over CD-ROMs, and their other modern FF releases like Remake, Rebirth, and XVI wouldn't be able to run on the Switch anyway.
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