I don't blame fans. I've never felt that's a fair argument. Ppl like what they like, and if there's tens of millions of ppl who aren't deterred by the state of the game, who am I to tell them otherwise. And if that means the series continues on with status quo, I blame the devs, not the fans. Because nomatter how many fans buy it, far more would have if the game met expectations.
Not only that but Gamefreak should feel pride in their work and not want to tarnish their reputation. And Nintendo for that matter, their reputation gets tarnished as a byproduct because they share partial ownership.
If I were Nintendo, as a significant shareholder, I'd have a chat with top brass and say look, this is embarrassing, it's turning gamers off from our system, and we cannot operate like this any more. We're going to lay out an initiative to improve quality moving forward. We're going to assign a team that oversees what steps need to be taken (be it training, new hires and positions, change of leadership, whatever) to ensure the next game not only performs well, but meets expectations on par with any mainstay 1st party IP.
Regardless, if they want my money, they'll need to do better. In the meantime I'm just not interested in the series anymore. It's a shame because I see a good game in there- I see what it could be. Something like Arceus but fleshed out more similar to Scarlet/Violet, with acceptable performance and reasonable visual standard. It could be a really fun game. I know I'd be into it because of how much I love Monster Hunter Stories 2. Until that day comes, I'll be over here enjoying Bayonetta 3, Monster Hunter Rise Sunbreak, Fire Emblem Engage, Zelda TotK, Pikmin 4, etc. Quality games.
All have sinned and fall short of Gods glory. Wages of sin is death. Romans
God so loved the world He sent His only Son- whoever believes on Him has eternal life. Unless you believe, you will die in your sins. Whoever believes, rivers of living water flow within them. John
Keep in mind, I'm a big Monster Hunter fan with thousands of hours poured into the series across MH3U on Wii U, MH4U and MHGen on 3DS, MHGU on Switch, MHWI on PS4/PC and MHRS on Switch. So I already know all the monsters, and that gives me a certain attachment to them a new player won't have.
However.
The monsters are legitimately amazing, so well designed and absolutely lovable. There's a reason Monster Hunter is praised so much. The entire series revolves around the monsters. They're the star of the show. And to me, they're far more endearing than any Pokemon. They're living, breathing, realistic creatures with their own habitats and behavioral patterns. They never feel like some fantasy creation hobbled together like so many other games. That helps connecting with them.
I think Monster Hunter Stories 2 is not only the best game of its genre to date, I think it's a perfect gateway into the world of Monster Hunter for those who have yet to get into the mainline series.
And just an aside, you can literally ride every monster you have in your party. Every single one. It's not like Pokemon where there's 2 weird bicycle looking mon for traversing the world. No no no. In MH Stories 2, you can ride all your monsters, and with 6 in your party at any time, you can instantly switch among them. It's great.
Oh, and the music is great, the gear and crafting is top notch, and I mean, TOP NOTCH, and it actually has a decent story.
On the subject of MH, I'd argue Monster Hunter Rise Sunbreak is one of the greatest video games of all time, on the level of Zelda Breath of the Wild. It's even better than Monster Hunter World, and thats saying something. One of those rare gems that comes along once every 5 years or so- a game so special its in a league of its own, forever immortalized as transcending greatness.
Monster Hunter Stories 2 isn't that good. I'm not gonna sit here and pretend it's on that plane of existence. But I'll be darned if it doesn't hold its own against the mainline series. When I play MH Stories 2, I never feel like it's a "lesser form" of the main series. Just a different take- one that complements it perfectly.
All have sinned and fall short of Gods glory. Wages of sin is death. Romans
God so loved the world He sent His only Son- whoever believes on Him has eternal life. Unless you believe, you will die in your sins. Whoever believes, rivers of living water flow within them. John
Has anyone here played ruined king: a league of legends story? It is on sale for half its regular price, and is made by the same studio that made battle chasers, nightwar, a game that I really enjoyed! However, I have seen several people mentioning frequent crashes, and I couldn't find anywhere if any patch has been released to fix them.
@kkslider5552000@JaxonH@Kermit1Pineapple
At the end of the day all of this stuff is pretty transactional. I mean you can argue for reputational damage and devaluing the brand etc and that's a legitimate point. But even if they lost half of their sales, which they're very far from doing, they'd still end up ahead if they're pushing out a game every year rather than every 2-3 years.
Also they've basically released a Pokemon game on Switch every year since 2018, so far they've all moved >10mill units. I expect these new games to land within that range also given they're firmly in the top spots of all the sales charts. I don't see how "far more" would have brought these games if the publisher cared more. It's pretty clear they're making a LOT of money out of these games regardless of quality or novelty
I mean we can sit here all we want and say we demand better. We can all say we're voting with our wallets and not getting them. The problem is, enough people are buying them regardless. So there's little to no incentive for them to do better. These are companies, their motivations are not virtuous unless the profit incentive aligns. Fans are ensuring they don't align in this case
And it's not just a GameFreak or Pokemon Company problem. I think Nintendo has generally been better at this than most due to their obsession with maintaining their IP's value. Which fans are very vocally against, generally. But they're not immune from it. And certainly, it's a problem across the entire industry as we move towards an industry that demands more consistent revenue streams
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If there was a $400 home console that guaranteed any switch game runs at 60 1080 I think there would be a market
Just did some currency conversion on this to get some context. I think you're overestimating how much demand there would be but I think the sad thing about it is I'm not sure you're THAT far off. Excuse the currency conversion from the AU end, there may be some funkyness. But this is what we have:
Current lineup is:
Switch OLED: $350USD
Switch v2: $300USD
Switch Lite: $220USD
I could see a theoretical future lineup might be something like:
Switch Home Pro - 4K DLSS etc: $300USD
Switch Home - X1 SoC: $200USD
Switch Pro - 4K DLSS docked, OLED: $370USD
Switch Lite OLED - X1 SoC, no docking: $250USD
And if they did that? I don't know. Maybe I get the "Switch Home Pro", taking advantage of USB storage and recognising that the Switch as it is is generally fine for portable play. Maybe I use my day 1 Switch for portable play exclusively. Maybe I do that then down the track "upgrade" my portable Switch to an OLED Lite
But maybe other consumers behave differently. Maybe more casual players get pulled into the mix with that lower price point of the "Switch Home". Maybe that product makes sense as a "second TV" or "second console" Switch. Maybe people on forums like this think bugger all the other options and go for the most expensive SKU
Regardless, the more options you have and the broader your price range? The more people you can sell to. Which is good for both consumers and Nintendo themselves. Even if that kinda runs a bit counter to my post immediately above this one ......
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A quick Google search reveals that Chocobo GP Season 4 ends on December 19th so we're probably seeing MK8 Deluxe DLC wave 3 around then. Nintendo likes to release MK8 Deluxe DLC around the same time as odd numbered Chocobo GP seasons begin (MK8 Deluxe DLC wave 1 released close to Chocobo GP Season 1, MK8 Deluxe DLC wave 2 released close to Chocobo GP Season 3).
@skywake e @JaxonH i don't think a powerful hardware could have helped Game Freak on Pokémon Scarlet e Violet, they are incompetent on Nintendo hardware since the begining of the franchise, in the final stages development of Pokémon Gold e Silver, Satoru Iwata has to interveen and put Kanto in the game, due to Game Freak messing with the game code, even if Switch sucessor have a techinal/graphical power equivalent to a PS4 Pro or more, gen 10 will still have this techinal isseus we are seeying in Pokémon Scarlet e Violet, due to Game Freak incompetence in Nintendo hardware, let Skywave have stated theres a clearly but subtle difference when a game push a hardware to it limit like Bayonetta 3, or have isseus in this case, is due to shoddy programing, a fact Game Freak is know.
As mentioned previously, it would have to be around the same power as the portable Switch to ensure games ran across both. If it was notably more powerful it would be a separate system altogether with its own games that couldn't run on Switch.
Next gen will be out anywhere from 6-30 months from now. Until then, we've got what we've got. Ignore the bad games. Play the good ones.
All have sinned and fall short of Gods glory. Wages of sin is death. Romans
God so loved the world He sent His only Son- whoever believes on Him has eternal life. Unless you believe, you will die in your sins. Whoever believes, rivers of living water flow within them. John
Makes sense now why Nintendo didn't announce all 8 back in the September Direct, London Loop would've been unsuitable to be in a Direct given current events back then.
I think Nintendo needs to make updated switch lite. They did put a oled on the switch but that’s about all they have done. I think the next big thing Nintendo does will blow us away. It will just take time.
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Nintendo Switch OLED Pokémon Scarlet and Violet Edition Gamer
One way or another, we'll have a new Switch model within 12 months of today.
It could be Switch 2. Or it could be Switch Lite OLED. Or it could be Switch Home (just a little $199 box that connects to the tv).
Whatever happens, one thing is certain- a new model will be in our hands by this time next year.
All have sinned and fall short of Gods glory. Wages of sin is death. Romans
God so loved the world He sent His only Son- whoever believes on Him has eternal life. Unless you believe, you will die in your sins. Whoever believes, rivers of living water flow within them. John
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And even going back to 3DS, the same strategy was used.
2011: 3DS 2012: 3DS XL 2013: 2DS 2015: New 3DS + XL 2017: New 2DS XL
They never go more than 2 years without a revision. Am I really to believe no new revision will release next year? That takes an awful lot of faith given the strategy they've consistently employed. New revisions keep interest high and help ward off waning momentum. Well into Switch's 7th year, am I really to believe no new revision will come? The time Switch will need a revision most? It seems to me to be a foregone conclusion.
Either they hit the gas with one final revision to carry Switch its last 2 year stretch, or they come hard with Switch 2 before allowing momentum to fall. Either way, a new model is coming.
Optimism would be saying it's for sure a Switch 2. I'm simply saying it's Switch 2, or it's Switch Lite OLED, or it's Switch Home, or it's Switch Pro, or it's Switch OLED XL, or it's Switch Lite XL, or it's some model we haven't even conceived of yet. But regardless which is the case, a new model is almost certainly coming.
The only potential scenario I see in which a new model doesn't release, is if they're planning to drop Switch 2 in 2024. But even then, there's still a good chance they release a revision as Switch would continue to sell well into next gen. Similar to how they positioned the 2DS XL before Switch released.
All have sinned and fall short of Gods glory. Wages of sin is death. Romans
God so loved the world He sent His only Son- whoever believes on Him has eternal life. Unless you believe, you will die in your sins. Whoever believes, rivers of living water flow within them. John
There's no need for a TV only console.
As mentioned previously, it would have to be around the same power as the portable Switch to ensure games ran across both. If it was notably more powerful it would be a separate system altogether with its own games that couldn't run on Switch
Read my post, I'm not suggesting that. I'm saying it'd have an equivalent portable SKU and the portable SKU would still be the main game in town. But by having a SKU where you can omit the battery and screen and potentially have more storage options (i.e. USB expansion)? You could sell it at a lower price point
A lower price point could open up new markets. It means nothing for us here because we've already brought into the platform. But there are consumers beyond these pages
Also, IMO, the ultimate Switch setup would be a console that stays at home based on a newer SoC which may or may not be portable and a Switch Micro that's super efficient with sub 5", maybe even a 480p screen. Same architecture, same games, cross play and cross buy. Idealy litterally the same machine. In the same way my ultimate PC setup would be a beefy PC at home and something smaller than the Steam Deck for portable use
I think there's a market for it. Just not in the clickbait YouTube video sense. Because I agree with you that they can't have a non-portable SKU be the best way to play games. It only makes sense as a cheaper secondary SKU
If anything I was reiterating what you said previously. Some ppl think a power console is the answer. But it's not. Because one ecosystem means any console would be inextricably linked to the portable variant. Otherwise the whole hybrid concept falls apart and they're back to developing for two separate systems again.
All have sinned and fall short of Gods glory. Wages of sin is death. Romans
God so loved the world He sent His only Son- whoever believes on Him has eternal life. Unless you believe, you will die in your sins. Whoever believes, rivers of living water flow within them. John
@Giancarlothomaz
I don't think VR is a direction they'll go. I mean it certainly makes more sense now than it did 5 years ago. But fundamentally it's a pretty limiting technology and the cost is still high enough that it can't really be a side feature.
This interested me. I've been ringing the Nintendo VR bell since they seemingly flicked a switch and turned the entirety of Breath of the Wild into a VR game. If they could do that with the biggest game they've ever made, then what is the cost? I suspect they could have done the same with Odyssey's engine, but too much of the Odyssey movement mechanics would have changed with a VR perspective. But if they're looking for a new novelty for their main IPs, VR is a strong contender, and I could easily see a new Mario game where the VR perspective has been incorporated into the game design from the get-go.
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