Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

@TheMelodiusRose The Switch is fundamentally designed as an underclocked portable gaming device with a mobile chipset that gives the player the option to also play on a TV, usually at higher resolutions. How you personally choose to use it doesn't change that fact.

Also worth mentioning that the revised models of this device have ALL been primarily oriented around improving the undocked experience.

But, as mentioned, this conversation is pointless. Nintendo no longer has dedicated home consoles and handhelds. It has one device that plays all of its games, and gives the user freedom to decide where and how they want to play it. That's all.

@KilloWertz
To be clear my criticism isn't directed at digital purchases on Nintendo. I don't have that much of an issue with things like stores shutting down at all as long as the ability re-download purchases remains. And as it happens the majority of my Switch purchases have been digital. My complaint here is more directed at the way that digital purchases don't stick between platforms on Nintendo

The Wii -> Wii U transition I could kinda let go because the Wii U literally had a Wii built into it and there was this transfer process. Also the "digital" library on Wii was tiny and even if you include games on disc there wasn't THAT much of a shared library between Wii and Wii U. Even where there was overlap the games they did "share" were significantly different due to the HD transition anyways. For example Twilight Princess -> Twilight Princess HD is probably the closest thing we got on Wii U to a direct Wii port outside of VC. And it was obviously a HD remaster. Could they have done more? Sure. But generally there wasn't THAT much reason for it

The Wii U -> Switch transition on the other hand. Backwards compatibility wasn't a thing and pretty much all of the Wii U's library was re-released on the Switch in some form. In addition to that they were logging all of your digital purchases from Day 1 on the Wii U to your Nintendo Network ID. Of course physical Wii U titles were physically incompatible with the Switch so I can kinda get not recognising digital purchases out of fear of "cheating" people who brought physical. But beyond that? There wasn't much reason for them to not do it

So with new hardware coming eventually I would hope they actually recognise purchases on the Switch. If BotW 2 launches on "both platforms" on the same day I would hope you don't have to pick at point of sale which platform you're buying it for. If there's also physical compatibility with the cartridges? Even better! But given how Nintendo has handled previous transitions I'm going under the assumption that it won't be a thing

When I browse the eShop I am going to make purchase decisions based on an assumption that:
1. New hardware will come out in the next 6 months
2. New hardware will not be backwards compatible
3. Purchases on Switch will not carry
4. I will do what I end up doing with all old hardware, it will go in a box

Those assumptions may end up being wrong but they're well within the realm of "possible". And under those assumptions? There are some games I can't justify purchasing that I probably would get if one or more of those assumptions are wrong

@TheMelodiusRose I, Just can’t agree with that. I have seen many, countless ads with them playing it in handheld mode, not saying they don’t have tv as well, I just feel like a lot of the ads Focus is on its portability. Heck it’s why the lite became a thing.

@TheMelodiusRose
If you want to talk in "objective facts" it's a portable you can dock. The Switch has a mobile SoC in it with low powered mobile RAM, it's not a "desktop" design. So if you want to be pedantic about it that's the closest thing to an answer on this

Also Nintendo did release a console that was a home console first and a hybrid second. It was called the Wii U. The Switch is not a home console first in the same way the Wii U was. Because the guts of the hardware designed for mobile use are in the portable section of the console

I view the Switch as a primarily mobile device… Given how at its core it’s little more than a gaming tablet. Nintendo simply made it extremely easy and convenient to use it as a home console.

It’s kinda like using a laptop as a desktop computer. It’s a perfectly valid way to use it, but at the end of the day, when you unplug it from the monitor… It is most definitely still a laptop.

@Eel Thank you.

@TheMelodiusRose Meant it be played? I just can’t a agree with that. Everything from the way it was built just screams handheld.

@TheMelodiusRose It objectively is. The Switch itself is the portable gaming tablet you keep in your dock. That's where all the magic happens. Docked play is achievable only through the use of a bundled peripheral that the device doesn't require to function.

Anyway, almost every Switch game commercial shows people playing it both on and off the TV. Because it's a hybrid. Hell, undocked play is showcased quite a bit more in the device's reveal trailer.

@TheMelodiusRose I mean come on the switch literally needs a dock in order to work, so how in the world is it a home console, when he switch itself needs what’s technically an add on, just to make it do it’s home console part?

Idk why it just can’t be a hybrid, if the title matter that much.

No need to be insecure about playing with a handheld device 😉, we all love the switch here!

Anyhow, I believe we can move on now.

Then leave, @TheMelodiusRose .... I'm sure we won't mind

@TheMelodiusRose If calling the switch a portable device, which it is make me stupid, then god I will be the stupidest person alive.

You can leave, and leave us with our stupid.

@TheMelodiusRose Like I said, leave us with it.

@TheMelodiusRose Negative? That’s rich! Who started the name calling? Because it sure wasn’t me. And people disagreeing with you, isn’t negative.

@TheMelodiusRose The device has ALWAYS been marketed as a hybrid, which is why people play it on and off the TV in adverts. That's why it's called the "Switch." It seamlessly 'switches' between docked and portable play.

It does mean the Switch isn't a home console, actually. Because home consoles are dependent on external power to function and rely on external display devices to be used normally. We've already had a home console with limited handheld functionality: it was called the Wii U. The difference is that the Wii U's off-tv play was still dependent on an external power source, and streamed data from the actual console to the GamePad. The Switch isn't designed like a home console, because it's not. It's a portable gaming device that can optionally be played like a home console, if the user chooses to do so.

Look at it this way: you can remove the bits required for docked mode without issue. All of the games will run. Many run better when undocked, actually. But you can't remove the bits that allow it to function as a portable gaming device. Because the portable gaming device bits COMPOSE THE DEVICE ITSELF.

You can call other people stupid all you like, but you know as well as I do that you're only behaving this way because you can't actually articulate a coherent argument for your position. Because the position you've adopted is wrong.

@TheMelodiusRose Happy trails! 😃

@TheMelodiusRose I accept your admission of defeat. Enjoy playing on your portable gaming tablet.

@TheMelodiusRose Sir your car is been waiting outside to pick you up for a wile now, you shouldn’t keep them waiting.

I can't see @TheMelodiusRose's posts anymore... Um

@Snatcher Sir I found your car... It seems to be driving off a cliff all by itself

@Kermit1 Good, now we can leave that topic behind. And move on finally!

(LOL Your mean was perfectly timed lmao)

to go along with the bean

(did you mean meme???)