Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

@Buizel
And after a game is announced people only care about the next game being announced

This is extremely common nowadays. It's why I've been saying we don't need a big 1st party Direct. The purpose of Directs are to communicate games coming. We already have a stacked year of games coming. But some truly do live off the hype cycle more than they actually play games.

@seaboyluca
I'm avoiding the thread because I want to go in blind. I'm a diehard Xenoblade fan. There's just not much to talk about when you know you're getting the game and CE day one.

But your point has merit. I noticed the same thing with New Pokémon Snap. All anyone ever talked about, until we got it, then nobody's interested. Same thing with Star Fox (though that game had some issues). And I'm quite sure F-Zero will be the same. There just aren't many F-Zero fans left out there. But you never know. Maybe ppl will surprise us.

I mean, there's not a lot to talk about with Pokemon Snap in general, right? People complained that it was never ported or got a sequel. Now it has a sequel, and the original is on NSO, so there's not much to say about it now. Last time I checked last year, the sequel had outsold the original by 4x or so. As long as people are putting their money where their mouths are, there's no issue.

I will say, though, and I realize this is incredibly irrational, but I'm going to be salty as hell if a new F-Zero releases on Switch and we still haven't heard anything about a new release date for Advance Wars because somewhere in the world, a war is being fought. There simply is no other series out there that can scratch the particular tactical itch that these games do, and this one was promising support for online play.

This is not remotely what I heard, AFAIK it hasn't outsold the original at all.

double checks the best selling N64 and Switch games yeah that hasn't changed

I'm wondering if MK8 Deluxe DLC wave 2 was actually why the general Direct didn't happen (kind of like how every general Direct from March 2018 until Fighters Pass 2 was finished had some sort of Smash Ultimate news). Everyone was expecting a release around July (6 waves = 4 months between each wave for equal spread) but unless Nintendo's actively trying to sabotage Mario Strikers, that isn't happening.

@JaxonH Nintendo will never make a brand new F-Zero game, the franchise is dead since 2004.

@Giancarlothomaz
Nintendo will never

You should know by now you can't predict Nintendo. Albeit extremely unlikely, it could happen. And as of the information we got yesterday, the odds just increased significantly. I still think it'll be a GX port, but if it does well, a new game could be in the cards.

@Ralizah I think that random war somewhere is the best thing that has happened to the game myself as it’s got people actually talking about the game that was gonna struggle for sales.

There’s now so many people complaining they can’t have the game they weren’t interested in but with the woke PC culture taking it away from them they are now quite happy to climb over those dead bodies in Europe to get a copy.

Bravo Nintendo for this elaborate PR stunt!

@JaxonH It’s modern fandom, people don’t like actually being fans of things where it takes too long for their short attention spans to play the games whilst there’s so much other disposable pop culture around so they want to jump in on the zeitgeist, loudly join in on the complaints with the others and share on the other fan’s high of excitement of announcements and releases or maybe I’m just a cynical gatekeeper.

I wouldn't mind an F-Zero GX remaster. It's the only major entry in the series I never played, after all. I could just emulate, but... meh.

@kkslider5552000 Yeah, I was misremembering. The article was actually about its UK launch numbers. Looks like New Pokemon Snap is about 900,000 or so units in the hole compared to the original.

@jump I don't think those complaints are necessarily going to translate into sales. A lot of people just like to complain, even if they have no personal investment in the subject at hand.

I guess the good thing is that the series has such historically low sales numbers that even moderately strong sales (1mil+) would probably ensure a future for the series.

@jump
I mean, announcements are exciting. There's no denying the rush of learning of some new game coming to the system. It's why we all love Directs and announcements.

BUT, one must keep proper perspective and priorities. The announcement does not trump playing the game itself. One thing I've learned is, the microwave generation has short attention spans and even less patience. They want that dopamine hit and they want it now. And they want it again next week. And the week after. Only a steady diet of short lived highs quells the hunger within. Though it's never truly satisfied. The hunger never goes away, always demands more. Nothing is ever enough.

I also think console wars plays its part too. The foot soldiers out there warring against Sony/Xbox/PC fanboys need an endless supply of ammunition. And not all munitions are created equal. Brand new exclusives is what they want. Ports don't hit as hard in the console wars, so those never satisfy (unless it's stealing someone else's exclusive like Persona 5 Royal, then they care about it). So games that actual gamers find incredibly exciting and extremely fun to play (like Portal Companion Collection) are handwaived and dismissed. After all, Portal won't win their war. And they have no interest in games that can't advance their frontline. They don't actually want games they are interested in, they want games their enemies are interested in, to flaunt in their face and attempt to provoke jealousy.

@DarthNocturnal
Not busted. There was never any indication the game is releasing or even being announced this year. All that was said was, it's finished. Meaning Nintendo could announce it this year, or next year. Who knows. Nintendo tends to sit on games, sometimes for years, as they strategies their release schedule.

I would expect to hear about that game in either the Sept direct for a Feb-Mar release, or a Jan-Feb direct for spring release. Clearly it's too soon after FE Warriors to be talking about another Fire Emblem.

We'll get the Prime remaster, but I wouldn't hold my breath on MP4 news any time soon. I expect cross gen release in 2024. Prime 1 could drop this year, which Jeff Grubb seems to think it will, but I think the lineup is too stacked as is, and would not be surprised if Prime 1, next Fire Emblem, Advance Wars, F-Zero and Zelda BotW 2 are all 2023 releases.

@JaxonH I think if Prime ends up being a Direct or Game Awards announcement that Nintendo would pull the double reveal trick with remaster(s) + 4 like they did with Bayonetta in 2017 (Wii U ports + 3). Though it's possible it ends up just being a shadow drop announcement in August like Pikmin 3 Deluxe in 2020.

I don't think there'll be anymore announcements this month (not even MK8 Deluxe DLC wave 2) as they'd clash with the already known upcoming releases. Mario Strikers update is July 21st/22nd (UK trailer shows 22nd), Live a Live is July 22nd and XC3 is July 29th.

Be happy we got games this year with C0V1D still around and a "war" happening.

@Kermit1 Lol the thumbnail maker clearly got the logos off of Logopedia, the wiki I moderate.

Yeah not expecting any more news until August, which is when I think we'll get the Mario Kart DLC, an Indie World, some Pokemon news, and a Splatoon 3 Direct.

@Kermit1 Even removing covid delays from the picture, this is turning out to be a fantastic gaming-related year for Nintendo. 2021, 2019, and 2017 as well.

Switch has been such a satisfying system to own.

Yeah I have issues with Switch, but both as a long time Nintendo fan and someone deeply frustrated with AAA gaming, Nintendo Switch is an unending joy that is giving me everything I ever wanted. Like all I could reasonably ask for at this point is a proper Mario RPG and a racing game that isn't Mario Kart 8 (8 is very good but its also one game that came out on Wii U in 2014).

Last year in particular was impossible, Great Ace Attorney, New Pokemon Snap, Metroid Dread, Famicom Detective Club, bringing back the Mario Party and Super Monkey Ball games everyone actually liked (no offense Mario Party 6 and Vita Monkey Ball game no one played because you were on Vita), in one year, is impossible. Especially in contrast with most of the big companies, that treat even remotely non-mainstream games as a thing to be ignored. Like between Nintendo's many long term issues its had for most of my time as a fan, especially on 3DS/Wii U, Sony going back and forth on whether they still have any respect for interesting video games, and Microsoft's increasingly inexplicable inability to have a strong first party lineup, I look at the state of Switch vs the competition, especially in terms of where their interests like, and am thankful all the time. Quite frankly Switch feels nearly like the last haven for non-indie non-mainstream video games.

@Kermit1 My time zone is Eastern. Like New York time zone to be more specific. I'm from right outside Philadelphia in South Jersey.

@jump yeah its the cult of celebrity around rumors and instant need for constant information that I suppose I don't understand. Granted I don't use social media (I work on IT issues all day...and part of the night too...aside from a video game or a personal project I don't want to look at a computer or phone outside of work) so I think I never developed that always on, addictive behavior mentality. But it just feels like ok new game has been announced...and if you don't get constant updates people think it is vaporware or worse they spend all their time obsessed with rumors and thus angry when something doesn't pan out exactly as the rumor states. That goes beyond normal speculation to me...but perhaps I am just consuming information differently. I've always enjoyed finding out official news (I mean companies bullshot as is so I really don't want rumor on top of that) and then speculating or talking about what was actually revealed. But perhaps this is an old lady shouting at a cloud moment. But I find myself less engaged in gaming communities because of it. (but I feel this way about other things too...unless I know somebody working at microsoft, I don't take a lot of stock in new feature rumors until they are announced or at least a beta is announced). So it isn't just gaming.

Edit: If you tagged me and I didn't respond, I'm sorry. Job has me working insane hours and I'm just taking a short break.

Yeah, while I quite like seeing some speculation & so on, @Ryu_Niiyama .... It's certainly best not to take it too seriously & wait for official reveals & announcements to confirm or correct them I use Twitter mostly to follow gaming stuff but I stick to the official relevant channels rather than the leakers

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